#robotics Logs
Dec 25 2018
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12:14 AM rue_mohr: sweet i modified a 7 day timer to run my rice cooker for a half hour after pushing its now only button
12:20 AM rue_mohr: good luck on that, your NOT good at graphics processing
12:22 AM rue_mohr: nice to do a quick project like that
12:22 AM rue_mohr: what was that 2 hours?
12:23 AM rue_mohr: design new faceplate and button, reverse engineer board, write firmware, assemble pcb, and testing...
12:25 AM rue_mohr: I was workign on 3 projects
12:25 AM rue_mohr: the timer, the 3d scanner and...
12:25 AM rue_mohr: uh
12:25 AM rue_mohr: ????...
12:26 AM rue_mohr: oh yea, the electronic breaker for the 3d printer rack
12:27 AM rue_mohr: wake up rue
12:27 AM rue_mohr: ?
12:27 AM rue_mohr: black box it
12:27 AM rue_mohr: ok, 3 lugs
12:27 AM rue_mohr: +in, +out, and ground
12:27 AM rue_mohr: or do we give it a remote reset?
12:27 AM rue_mohr: no, dont get all crazy on me
12:29 AM rue_mohr: ok I see a 2 piece case
12:30 AM rue_mohr: a base that fits on the din rail
12:30 AM rue_mohr: and a cap that makes things nice and supports a light and button
12:30 AM rue_mohr: dont we have a pcb mount for din somewhere?
12:30 AM rue_mohr: your thinking of one of the borked plc's
12:31 AM rue_mohr: smart relays
12:31 AM rue_mohr: whatever
12:31 AM rue_mohr: you drew on a lock that makes another piece
12:31 AM rue_mohr: so I did
12:31 AM rue_mohr: you know I see that as a kinda complex design for tonight
12:32 AM rue_mohr: yes and no, you can do the pcb now
12:32 AM rue_mohr: ah, hmm
12:32 AM rue_mohr: hmm, so today I design the circuit and make the pcb, tommorow you design and print the case
12:33 AM rue_mohr: if we had 4 arms this wouldn't be an issue
12:33 AM rue_mohr: can the 555 drive that relay?
12:33 AM rue_mohr: well measure it
12:33 AM rue_mohr: 500mA?
12:33 AM rue_mohr: 700 I think
12:33 AM rue_mohr: oh then we got to be clear
12:34 AM rue_mohr: that thing cant pull more than like 50mA
12:34 AM rue_mohr: so
12:34 AM rue_mohr: schematic for the...
12:34 AM rue_mohr: on it...
12:35 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/buddy_III_OL.png
12:35 AM rue_mohr: thanks
12:36 AM rue_mohr: hey wait, this is default open isn't it?
12:36 AM rue_mohr: use the other relay contacts
12:36 AM rue_mohr: no, I dont have those
12:36 AM rue_mohr: ah
12:36 AM rue_mohr: hmm
12:36 AM rue_mohr: food?
12:45 AM rue_shop1: 33mA
01:12 AM zhanx: merry christmas rue
01:12 AM rue_mohr: at some point I'll put that reset pullup in tho
01:14 AM rue_mohr: well, goodnight occupants of earth, here is to having lots of happy surprises
01:14 AM rue_mohr: and us?
01:14 AM rue_mohr: yea, we dont count
01:14 AM rue_mohr: supper isn't burned!
01:14 AM rue_mohr: yaaaay!
01:15 AM rue_mohr: is that all we get?
01:15 AM zhanx: yep
01:15 AM rue_mohr: you get an electronic breaker when you finish making it
01:15 AM zhanx: Can i work in Canada?
01:16 AM rue_mohr: if you don't worry about what anyone else will say, yes.
01:16 AM rue_mohr: or might
01:16 AM zhanx: k
01:16 AM rue_mohr: hey, they are getting closer to finishing the tim hortons in sechelt
01:16 AM rue_mohr: you might have that callout comming up
01:17 AM rue_mohr: crash free at hotel rue
01:18 AM zhanx: hotel rue will make me make things
01:18 AM rue_mohr: we could have made this electronic breaker with an SCR ya know
01:18 AM rue_mohr: WHAAAT?!
01:19 AM rue_mohr: yea, cause its just a button
01:19 AM rue_mohr: what about resetting it?
01:19 AM zhanx: its A joke calm down
01:19 AM rue_mohr: well, startup pulse...
01:19 AM zhanx: never mind me calm down
01:19 AM rue_mohr: hmm
01:19 AM rue_mohr: so, I'm steaming towards a 3d scanner
01:20 AM rue_mohr: he's steaming about 1/10 steam...
01:20 AM rue_mohr: ...
01:20 AM zhanx: hmmmm
01:20 AM rue_mohr: I rebuilt the table last night
01:20 AM rue_mohr: its never run so well
01:20 AM rue_mohr: tell him the best part
01:21 AM rue_mohr: oh, yea, 400ppr stepper on a microstep driver :)
01:21 AM rue_mohr: and'
01:21 AM rue_mohr: oh 333:14 ratio
01:21 AM zhanx: :{
01:21 AM rue_mohr: dont tell him a few of the teeth are a bit knackered...
01:21 AM rue_mohr: deal...
01:22 AM rue_mohr: I have a bit more soldering to do, and then I have to teach the PI how to collect images
01:24 AM * rue_mohr lets Z go to sleep with the image of rue, with a big cheezy grin, waving as Z's eyes slowly fall closed...
01:24 AM zhanx: nope
01:24 AM rue_mohr: see ya in 8 hours!
01:24 AM zhanx: i have a stomach virus
01:25 AM rue_mohr: matches?
01:25 AM zhanx: so sleep and me not so good
01:25 AM zhanx: didin't help
01:25 AM rue_mohr: :/
01:26 AM rue_mohr: how many ref images do you think I should take to compare against the one(s) with the laser on?
01:26 AM zhanx: 3+-
01:27 AM rue_mohr: -3 images....
01:27 AM rue_mohr: that presents new challanges
01:27 AM rue_mohr: it does...
01:27 AM rue_mohr: hmm
01:28 AM rue_mohr: zhanx, so, are you stuck in a state where you cant rest OR think?
01:28 AM zhanx: yes
01:28 AM rue_mohr: :s
01:28 AM zhanx: toilet
01:28 AM zhanx: that is god right now
01:29 AM rue_mohr: "this message was brought to you from john" :/
01:29 AM zhanx: with brb again!
01:29 AM rue_mohr: where do we start to convert to machines?
01:47 AM rue_shop3: hands and eyes
01:50 AM rue_shop3: arg, wtf, falling alseep!?!?! nooooo
07:23 AM gartt: I haven't had a cold in years. The trick? Having no life, and a wife abroad, so whenever I feel the slightest tickle in my throat, I don't strain myself, eat something healthy and go to bed early
12:27 PM rue_bed: ok,projects are
12:27 PM rue_bed: 3d scanner
12:27 PM rue_bed: electronic breaker
12:27 PM rue_bed: ok
12:28 PM rue_bed: hmmm breakfast...
12:43 PM rue_mohr: haha, 3 packages from the mailbox!
12:44 PM rue_mohr: 2 bags of isomalt!
12:45 PM rue_mohr: 4 button keyboard!
12:45 PM rue_mohr: s
12:46 PM rue_mohr: thermocouple temp meter!
01:50 PM Mikeee: hey there's a robotics channel
01:51 PM Mikeee: My employer is sending me out to cali for training on the fanuc robots so I can certify my students in their operation
02:13 PM rue_mohr: hi
02:13 PM Mikeee: hello
02:14 PM rue_mohr: faunc eh?
02:14 PM rue_mohr: what type of robots?
02:14 PM Mikeee: Yea it's what everyone uses here
02:14 PM rue_mohr: like specifically painting/welding/?
02:15 PM Mikeee: LR Mate 200id is what I'll be teaching on
02:16 PM Mikeee: Basically any application. We've got tesla 20 minutes away and that's where a lot of students will be starting out
02:16 PM rue_mohr: cool
02:17 PM rue_mohr: what kinda background do the students have?
02:17 PM Mikeee: none
02:17 PM Mikeee: it'll be a challenge
02:17 PM rue_mohr: are they looking to design of maintain production equip?
02:18 PM Mikeee: yeah mechatronics
02:18 PM rue_mohr: /of/or/
02:18 PM rue_mohr: remember to get them to look for what the robot can do while its waiting
02:18 PM Mikeee: they'd be expected to be able to design tooling, but not the robotics themselves. repair and program definitely though
02:19 PM rue_mohr: I see toooooo much programming where the robot waits for something and then gets ready to start doing it
02:19 PM rue_mohr: where it could have preped before hand
02:20 PM Mikeee: I've made a 3d printing head for the 200id and know enough C++ to write a translator for the gcode, I'm hoping to get that running
02:20 PM rue_mohr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4uz_yha9uI
02:21 PM rue_mohr: :)
02:21 PM rue_mohr: triggered canned cycles
02:22 PM rue_mohr: using waypoints
02:22 PM rue_mohr: 7? axis?
02:22 PM rue_mohr: 6...
02:23 PM Mikeee: neat
02:23 PM rue_mohr: that thing ran for over 20 hours of maker fairs with no hickups
02:23 PM rue_mohr: which is insane
04:15 PM rue_shop1: haha, I assembled it all and it trips at 2A
04:32 PM rue_shop1: it went from 6 turns to 3 turns
06:50 PM rue_shop3: awake yet?
06:50 PM rue_shop3: littlebit
06:51 PM rue_shop3: well so far, my trails with 64bit linux have had no inncodents
06:51 PM Tom_L: debian 9?
06:51 PM rue_shop3: dunno
06:51 PM rue_shop3: just, 64 bit
06:51 PM rue_shop3: 9.6, huh
06:52 PM Tom_L: 'stretch'
06:52 PM rue_shop3: ok
06:52 PM rue_shop3: isn't stretch old?
06:52 PM Tom_L: no
06:52 PM rue_shop3: my phone system is running 5 :)
06:52 PM Tom_L: dunno how long i didn't realize they were toystory names :)
06:52 PM rue_shop3: I have severly screwed its package system
06:53 PM Tom_L: i've got preempt-rt stretch on my test machine
06:54 PM rue_shop3: I'm a bit more awake after an ASA but, arg
06:54 PM rue_shop3: I dont know why, but right now ASA seems to do more for me than just about anything else
06:55 PM rue_shop3: I go from unable to move to just being brutally tired
06:56 PM rue_shop3: I was given an awesome laptop 2.8G 8 core with 16G ram and 1T drive
06:56 PM rue_shop3: with a 'bad video card'
06:56 PM rue_shop3: and yup, every so often the video card goes to hell
07:03 PM Tom_L: gets too hot?
07:04 PM Tom_L: does it have those little pancake fans in it? maybe one quit or is clogged
07:04 PM logicmoo is now known as dmiles
07:19 PM rue_shop1: I suppose there should be a constant current laser driver
07:19 PM rue_shop1: Tom_L, apparently dell changed the motherboard in it twice
07:20 PM rue_shop1: geez, I have all these tools for doing things I'm not doing
07:20 PM veverak: hmm
07:20 PM veverak: code written
07:20 PM veverak: does not compile yet
07:20 PM veverak: but it is 2:18 am
07:20 PM veverak: should I stay or should I go...
07:27 PM rue_shop1: aha, I used a different sensor than what I tested with...
07:27 PM rue_shop1: thats expalins is
07:27 PM rue_shop1: veverak, stay up, lets code
07:28 PM rue_shop1: how much untested code did you just put togethor?
07:28 PM rue_shop1: what does it do?
07:28 PM rue_shop1: lets C
07:28 PM veverak: count of lines is not relevant here exactly
07:28 PM veverak: around 5-600 lines
07:29 PM rue_shop1: oh dear god, you wrote 550 lines wihout testing anything?
07:29 PM uniera: 600 is practically nothing tho...
07:30 PM rue_shop1: but, there shouldn't be more than 50 without testing somehting!
07:30 PM rue_shop1: anyhow whats it supposed to do?
07:33 PM veverak: I do that a lot :)
07:33 PM veverak: rue_shop1: generate a line as potential surface for a leg to step on
07:33 PM veverak: input is environment and path of movement for body
07:33 PM veverak: output: 'line' for each leg, that represents surface the leg can step on along that path
07:33 PM veverak: the line of courses is on surface of the environment
07:44 PM rue_shop1: oh its not avr code
07:44 PM rue_shop1: still
07:47 PM veverak: well
07:47 PM veverak: there were times
07:47 PM veverak: when I wrote code for a week
07:47 PM veverak: than two days I debugged it (so it compiles)
07:47 PM veverak: than two days I debugged it (so it works)
07:57 PM rue_shop1: there is an exponential factor you know
07:57 PM rue_shop1: if you test as you go, there is WAY less debug time
07:59 PM veverak: depends
07:59 PM veverak: rue_shop1: in shortterm? yeah
08:00 PM veverak: in longterm? I do not think so
08:00 PM veverak: 'I wrote code for a week'
08:00 PM veverak: means that I wrote a lot
08:00 PM veverak: but also deleted a lot
08:00 PM veverak: because I did not like the API/ the way it ended up
08:00 PM veverak: not having tests to give a fuck about saves time in refactoring...
08:13 PM veverak: gn
08:48 PM rue_shop1: zhanx_, 8-| these new drivers are insane
08:48 PM rue_shop1: this table can do up to about 30rpm
08:49 PM rue_shop1: 14:222 is the correct ratio
08:49 PM rue_shop1: 400ppr motor,
08:49 PM rue_shop1: 8 microstep
09:12 PM rue_mohr: it drives ok at 3V, so the pi shouldn't have any issues
09:13 PM rue_mohr: I'll do some test images tommorow with and without laser lines, can start working on image processing stuff
09:38 PM rue_mohr: tom
09:38 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L,
09:38 PM rue_mohr: you alive?
09:42 PM rue_mohr: we need to fix this
09:42 PM rue_mohr: what do you think about rounding up some slaves?
09:42 PM rue_mohr: suppose I'm willing to consider it
09:43 PM rue_mohr: we ned to find smart slaves tho
09:43 PM rue_mohr: with the economy thats been developed, thats actaully not hard
09:43 PM rue_mohr: your not good at managing people tho
09:44 PM rue_mohr: I object, I'v got nobody to manage
09:44 PM rue_mohr: hm
09:45 PM rue_mohr: I need a name for the tea machine
09:45 PM rue_mohr: salves might be a step towards that exponential progress you been needing
09:45 PM rue_mohr: what do we call the tea machine
09:45 PM rue_mohr: Harry
09:45 PM rue_mohr: hopefully not!
09:46 PM rue_mohr: something based on caffeen?
09:47 PM rue_mohr: how about "Tea machine"
09:47 PM rue_mohr: god thats uncreative
09:47 PM rue_mohr: ok
09:47 PM rue_mohr: AutoCaffinator
09:47 PM rue_mohr: can we add mattic in there?
09:48 PM rue_mohr: AutoCaffimatticnator
09:48 PM rue_mohr: :/
09:48 PM rue_mohr: maybe tronic?
09:48 PM rue_mohr: AutoTronicCaffinator?
09:49 PM rue_mohr: caffinator is taking up too much of that
09:49 PM rue_mohr: so?
09:49 PM rue_mohr: its more caffinator that autotronic
09:49 PM rue_mohr: I suppose...
09:50 PM rue_mohr: your just going for 3 syllabls aren't ya?
09:50 PM rue_mohr: I was trying
09:50 PM rue_mohr: AutoTronicTea-onator?
09:50 PM rue_mohr: sadly, thats closer, yea
09:51 PM rue_mohr: you should work out how many asa you need to stay awake for a say and pre-douse some water
09:52 PM rue_mohr: tea machine, focus on tea machine
09:52 PM rue_mohr: I vote autotroniccaffinator
09:52 PM rue_mohr: fred is a name, should we just use that
09:52 PM rue_mohr: no, but we can build an acronm if you like
09:53 PM rue_mohr: so far we have ATC
09:53 PM rue_mohr: ATTACK
09:53 PM rue_mohr: Auto Tronic Tea ...
09:54 PM rue_mohr: Auto Tronic Tea And Coffee...
09:54 PM rue_mohr: Auto Tronic Tea And Coffee Komposer
09:54 PM rue_mohr: you didn't use the word percolate
09:54 PM rue_mohr: ... YOU DID'T ASK ME TO
09:54 PM rue_mohr: ATC + P
09:55 PM rue_mohr: Auto Tronic Tea Percolation ....
09:55 PM rue_mohr: ATTP?
09:55 PM rue_mohr: let me work on it!!!!
09:56 PM Tom_L: ?
09:56 PM rue_mohr: PATT
09:56 PM rue_mohr: Perkolated Auto Tronic Tea
09:56 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, I need a mold, aluminum
09:56 PM rue_mohr: for sugar
09:56 PM rue_mohr: to form it into glue sticks
09:58 PM Tom_L: ok
09:59 PM Tom_L: like 1/2" round glue sticks?
09:59 PM rue_mohr: Automatic Percolated Lightless Intelligent And Networked Coffeeless E...
09:59 PM rue_mohr: I was origionally thinking that
09:59 PM Tom_L: you want sugar crystals or a solid stick?
09:59 PM rue_mohr: but then I wodnered if the small sticks are a better idea
09:59 PM Tom_L: how do they make sugar cubes?
09:59 PM rue_mohr: my idea is to pour molten sugar into them
10:00 PM rue_mohr: into the molds
10:00 PM rue_mohr: so I'm thinking of a gated multimold
10:00 PM rue_mohr: split into two plates
10:00 PM Tom_L: wonder what sort of mold release you need
10:00 PM Tom_L: butter?
10:00 PM rue_mohr: maybe top entry?
10:00 PM rue_mohr: against aluminum? any?
10:00 PM Tom_L: i don't know
10:00 PM rue_mohr: I dont think molten sugar would bind to aluminum
10:01 PM Tom_L: i'm sure if it's melted it will stick
10:01 PM rue_mohr: this is isomalt anyhow
10:01 PM rue_mohr: so, two 1/4" plates could make the small stucks
10:01 PM rue_mohr: hmmm
10:02 PM rue_mohr: its not 2.5D, I cant design it with my normal stuff
10:02 PM Tom_L: what sort of mold do you want?
10:03 PM rue_mohr: my thought, is two plates
10:03 PM rue_mohr: each divide the cylinder sticks in half
10:03 PM Tom_L: what diameter hole?
10:04 PM rue_mohr: there would be a set of gates to each mould, from the "top" whcih could be an opening shared between the plates at the top if you put them || and clamp them to fill
10:04 PM rue_mohr: for entry? prolly as large as can given plate thickness
10:05 PM rue_mohr: got a bit of a mental pic?
10:05 PM rue_mohr: I mean, I could stl it, but I cant make an nc file
10:06 PM rue_mohr: and I dont know what a mold like that needs for vents
10:06 PM Tom_L: scribble something on a page and post it
10:06 PM rue_mohr: cool
10:06 PM rue_mohr: rue? where were you?
10:06 PM Tom_L: tap tap tap....... i'm waiting....
10:06 PM rue_mohr: Automatic Percolated Lightless Intelligent And Networked Coffeeless E...
10:07 PM rue_mohr: oh, sorry, direction error
10:07 PM rue_mohr: k, 1 min
10:07 PM rue_mohr: do you have an stl viewer?
10:07 PM Tom_L: catia will read it
10:07 PM rue_mohr: thats not a hastle?
10:07 PM Tom_L: or sw
10:07 PM Tom_L: either one will read it i think
10:07 PM Tom_L: make it inch though for ease
10:08 PM rue_mohr: arg, ok, wehre is a napkin...
10:14 PM Tom_L: ok that didn't do what it was supposed to...
10:17 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/p1100877.jpg
10:18 PM Tom_L: ahh ok
10:18 PM rue_mohr: one of the things I'm not sure on is how to make the alumium food safe
10:18 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold.jpg
10:18 PM Tom_L: :)
10:18 PM rue_mohr: but honestly I dont think I'd be eating it (or anyone else)
10:18 PM Tom_L: not supposed to be hollow
10:18 PM rue_mohr: right, you seen molds like I drew there?
10:19 PM Tom_L: yeah you need escape holes at the bottom though
10:19 PM rue_mohr: ok
10:19 PM Tom_L: otherwise it will trap air
10:19 PM rue_mohr: I'm not good at casting yet
10:19 PM Tom_L: 2 halves could be identical
10:20 PM rue_mohr: yup
10:20 PM Tom_L: are those 1/2"?
10:20 PM Tom_L: how long?
10:20 PM rue_mohr: well you know how there are two sizes of glue guns?
10:20 PM Tom_L: i only have one size
10:20 PM rue_mohr: I'm thinking the smaller glue gun size, they seem to be more popular
10:20 PM Tom_L: guess i can measure one
10:20 PM Tom_L: hold on
10:20 PM rue_mohr: I think about 3" long
10:21 PM rue_mohr: can be longer
10:21 PM rue_mohr: trying to target something the sherline could cut from a peice of plate
10:21 PM rue_mohr: ... given an infinite amount of time
10:22 PM rue_mohr: I think I can get 5/16 plate, dont know if I can get anything thicker than that
10:23 PM Tom_L: mine are .465" diameter
10:23 PM rue_mohr: k
10:23 PM rue_mohr: your sure on that last thou? :)
10:24 PM Tom_L: 460 - 465
10:24 PM Tom_L: and it's cold out there so ...
10:24 PM rue_mohr: odd its not .5 ...
10:24 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:24 PM Tom_L: i've had them a long time, maybe they shrunk
10:24 PM rue_mohr: its not even 12mm
10:24 PM Tom_L: not that much though surely
10:25 PM rue_mohr: ??
10:26 PM Tom_L: working on your thought
10:26 PM rue_mohr: google results show 11.5mm and 7mm ???
10:26 PM Tom_L: mine would be 11.5 then
10:26 PM rue_mohr: zippo:/files/programming/c/motif/combobox# units 11.5mm inch
10:26 PM rue_mohr: * 0.45275591
10:26 PM rue_mohr: (??)
10:28 PM rue_mohr: ok another ref says 7/16"
10:30 PM rue_mohr: 7.1mm....
10:30 PM rue_mohr: see everyone is going over to the small sticks now
10:30 PM rue_mohr: I cant even find a listing for a big one
10:32 PM rue_mohr: 9/32!?
10:32 PM rue_mohr: oh, 7/16 ~1/2"
10:32 PM rue_mohr: so
10:32 PM rue_mohr: aha, ok
10:33 PM rue_mohr: so big is 7/16 and small is 9/32
10:33 PM rue_mohr: standard is 4" long,
10:34 PM rue_mohr: 8" is "super sticks"
10:34 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold.jpg
10:34 PM rue_mohr: electroniqe`
10:35 PM Tom_L: needs a bit of work yet
10:35 PM rue_mohr: yea like that
10:35 PM rue_mohr: what would fit in the sherline?
10:35 PM rue_mohr: I dont know if it can do 4" on Y
10:35 PM Tom_L: alot bigger than that
10:36 PM Tom_L: iirc those are 4" channels
10:36 PM rue_mohr: might need one that just makes like 4 sticks 8" long poured in from the short end
10:36 PM Tom_L: .465" diameter
10:36 PM rue_mohr: k
10:36 PM rue_mohr: that projection looks a bit strange
10:37 PM rue_mohr: huh
10:37 PM rue_mohr: do you recall what the Y size is on the sherline???
10:38 PM Tom_L: i still have my config for it
10:38 PM Tom_L: the old one?
10:38 PM Tom_L: mine was ~7" iirc
10:38 PM rue_mohr: well, I'm also wondering
10:38 PM Tom_L: 7 x 9
10:38 PM Tom_L: but the new one is more
10:38 PM rue_mohr: yours had a larger overhang than the one I'v got
10:38 PM rue_mohr: brb
10:38 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:38 PM Tom_L: probably about 4" on yours if that much
10:40 PM rue_shop3: mmm the overhang on this one is only about 3.25"
10:40 PM rue_shop3: almost like 10" on X tho!
10:42 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold1.jpg
10:42 PM Tom_L: those are 6" long
10:42 PM rue_mohr: Automatic Percolation L.... Intelligent And Networked Coffeeless Electronique`
10:42 PM rue_mohr: ok
10:43 PM rue_mohr: the projection still looks strange...
10:43 PM rue_mohr: anyhow, are the sprues and risers hard to do with that?
10:44 PM Tom_L: working on that now
10:47 PM rue_mohr: AutoCronTronicPerkMaster
10:47 PM rue_mohr: but its percolate
10:47 PM rue_mohr: AutoCronTronicPercMaster
10:47 PM rue_mohr: gee I hate naming things
10:52 PM rue_mohr: hey, i'm geting some energy back, I should use it up!
10:52 PM rue_mohr: wow, that thought consumed most of it
10:52 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold2.jpg
10:53 PM rue_mohr: sweet
10:53 PM Tom_L: not fancy
10:53 PM rue_mohr: needs air things too, right?
10:53 PM Tom_L: i could make a cone for the fill
10:53 PM Tom_L: yes
10:53 PM rue_mohr: can you taper open the entry?
10:53 PM rue_mohr: yea
10:53 PM Tom_L: out the bottom just small
10:53 PM Tom_L: just did it quick
10:53 PM rue_mohr: ok
10:54 PM rue_mohr: I just want a movie, why netflix full off all this non-english series junk
10:54 PM Tom_L: i dropped em
10:56 PM rue_mohr: alternative?
10:56 PM Tom_L: i don't watch much
10:56 PM rue_mohr: me either
10:56 PM Tom_L: i've got directv but don't use it much
10:56 PM Tom_L: they do
10:57 PM rue_mohr: every so often I want to just see a movie
10:57 PM Tom_L: i watched some old bruce willis one earlier
10:57 PM rue_mohr: hah, and does that bother me more,or subtitled english?
10:57 PM rue_mohr: atg
10:57 PM rue_mohr: arg
10:58 PM Tom_L: see on something like what you want... you want an extruder that will cut the stuff at lengths as it comes out
10:59 PM Tom_L: like a spaghetti maker
10:59 PM Tom_L: but cooling it without disolving it might be an issue
11:00 PM Tom_L: the machines that put jackets on copper use a water bath
11:00 PM Tom_L: it's gonna be awfully brittle
11:01 PM rue_mohr: keeping it straight would be a challange
11:01 PM rue_mohr: I'm told that the isomalt isn't as brittle as sugar
11:01 PM Tom_L: just lay it in a straight cooling tray
11:04 PM rue_mohr: I suspect part of the trick to getting it out of the mold is to have it cooled, stiff and *slightly* shrunk
11:14 PM rue_mohr: laser line module is 40mA
11:19 PM rue_mohr: I recon the 78L05 wont ahve issue with that
11:22 PM mrdata--: ok
11:22 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold_assy.jpg
11:23 PM rue_mohr: no fair, ic ant see the good stuff
11:23 PM Tom_L: what good stuff?
11:23 PM rue_mohr: the inside stuff :)
11:24 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold_assy1.jpg
11:24 PM Tom_L: sure you can
11:26 PM rue_mohr: cool
11:26 PM Tom_L: nice things about assemblies
11:29 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold.stl
11:30 PM Tom_L: the block is 5.5 x 8 x .5"
11:31 PM rue_mohr: nice
11:31 PM Tom_L: gnite
11:31 PM Tom_L: still needs a little work
11:32 PM rue_mohr: project is still on the qeueue
11:33 PM Tom_L: just needed a starting point to go from