#robotics Logs
Sep 19 2018
#robotics Calendar
06:12 AM veverak: https://imgur.com/a/Pu1LWKC
06:16 AM veverak: ok, freecad is not so bad
06:16 AM Jak_o_Shadows: I've been meaning to learn freecad forever
06:16 AM Jak_o_Shadows: but I jump to the assembly mode, not the sketcfh mode
06:45 AM Jak_o_Shadows: cause I care more about assemble and parametric than sketching
06:47 AM veverak: well, it has parameters too
06:52 AM Jak_o_Shadows: Yeah
06:52 AM Jak_o_Shadows: That's why I originally installed it
06:52 AM Jak_o_Shadows: but it wasn't immediatley obvious, so I gave up
09:59 AM tsglove is now known as Guest81098
05:19 PM _unreal_: rue_mohr, sup
05:50 PM _unreal_: rue_shop3, hello?
07:15 PM rue_mohr: hi
07:30 PM ace4016: hello
07:47 PM flav0r: HELLO BOTH OF YOU !
08:31 PM rue_mohr: hey
08:37 PM flav0r: whats new dude
08:37 PM flav0r: workign on anything cool ??
09:31 PM _unreal_: rue_mohr, sup
09:32 PM Tom_L: got your control built yet?
09:32 PM zhanx: I think rue_mohr is still doing chalk lines on his roof for aliens to find his house
09:33 PM _unreal_: fuck no.....
09:33 PM _unreal_: no time
09:34 PM _unreal_: today I got some h80 foam glued together and ONE side cut to make the angle
09:34 PM _unreal_: Thats as far as I got. I ended up leaving work LATE do to the @#$@#$ task I was given
09:35 PM _unreal_: I was hoping to get just a BASIC setup done
09:35 PM _unreal_: trying to build the mold
09:35 PM _unreal_: The mold for the computer's FACE plate for starters
09:37 PM zhanx: just plug away at it _unreal_ it will come
09:37 PM orlock: eh thats something i could try one day
09:37 PM orlock: foam-based investment casting to make an aluminium mounting plate
09:38 PM orlock: though, fuck, this isnt that much i guess
09:38 PM orlock: https://www.bintel.com.au/product/orion-8-inch-dovetail-mounting-plate/
09:38 PM _unreal_: orlock, I'm not doing LOST foam
09:39 PM _unreal_: This is foming using high density H80 FOAM. for fiberglass.
09:41 PM mrdata: https://techxplore.com/news/2018-09-robotic-skins-everyday-robots.html
09:44 PM orlock: _unreal_: then you wrap it and bag it up, etc?
10:06 PM flav0r: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-NoS-Dick-Smiths-Fun-Way-Radio-Kits/163054406986
10:18 PM rue_mohr: jahahah assembly instructions sold seperatly!!!
10:18 PM rue_mohr: hahahahahaha
10:19 PM rue_mohr: theBear, !!!!
10:19 PM rue_mohr: I wonder if you can buy soemthing and ship it to us
10:19 PM rue_mohr: its a gate controller
10:19 PM rue_mohr: you awake?
10:19 PM rue_mohr: the
10:20 PM Tom_L: wtf you scheming now?
10:20 PM rue_mohr: theBear,
10:20 PM rue_mohr: this stupid nit bought a gate controller out of africa, and his buddy ran over the controller an wrecked the control board
10:20 PM rue_mohr: we need a new one, but they cant process the card in africa
10:21 PM rue_mohr: but there is an australian branch, but they want us to deal with the african branch
10:21 PM rue_mohr: we just need the damn circuit board
10:21 PM Tom_L: heh
10:22 PM orlock: fuck
10:22 PM orlock: vintage Dick Smith gear!
10:22 PM rue_mohr: orlock, you in australia or the usa today?
10:22 PM Tom_L: he's an aussie from way back
10:22 PM orlock: Australia, always am
10:23 PM orlock: rue_mohr: the instructions came in a book i think - those things predate photocopiers being common
10:24 PM flav0r: yeah they did
10:24 PM orlock: https://goughlui.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/ds-funway1cover.jpg
10:24 PM flav0r: funway 2 was better
10:24 PM orlock: i used to love around the corner from the first disk smiths in Victoria
10:24 PM orlock: s/love/live
10:24 PM orlock: i was living there when it shut down
10:26 PM orlock: i was just trying to remember when i last set foot in one
10:27 PM orlock: then realised they got fucked over and bought out
10:27 PM orlock: and shut down
10:27 PM orlock: etc
10:27 PM flav0r: like radio shack
10:27 PM flav0r: just became a place to buy phone cases
10:27 PM rue_mohr: orlock, could you help me buy a circuit board?
10:27 PM Tom_L: what was that other one that sold kits....
10:27 PM Tom_L: ace?
10:27 PM orlock: Jaycar is the other one
10:27 PM Tom_L: i can't remember
10:28 PM orlock: rue_mohr: Gate controller.. brand?
10:28 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, what board?
10:28 PM flav0r: cant be got in usa ?
10:29 PM zhanx: rue is canuke
10:29 PM flav0r: im askign if it CAN be got in usa
10:29 PM flav0r: or just africa and australia
10:29 PM zhanx: k
10:30 PM flav0r: speaking of which i have to go meet an african in about 15 mins
10:30 PM rue_mohr: orlock, its a CP75 from centurion
10:30 PM rue_mohr: it looks like they just CANT get it to us
10:30 PM flav0r: thats the guy i inherited that project thru that i was asking about steppers
10:30 PM rue_mohr: but theyr directed us to the african office and the bank will apparenlty NOT release the money via credit card
10:31 PM rue_mohr: and we just need the damn board
10:31 PM rue_mohr: orlock, they have an australian office, would you help?
10:32 PM flav0r: how much is it dude? ill tell my sister to buy it
10:32 PM orlock: "Developed in South Africa" heh
10:32 PM rue_mohr: its about $150,
10:32 PM flav0r: unless orlock steps up!
10:32 PM flav0r: better hurry before it gets reposessed
10:33 PM orlock: rue_mohr: who did you try? centsys.com.au?
10:33 PM zhanx: rue might to reverse built it
10:33 PM rue_mohr: I can do paypal, as I recon your not set up for credit cards :)
10:33 PM rue_mohr: orlock, we wrote to the australian office cause I know they could sell it to us and ship it fine
10:34 PM rue_mohr: but they directed us to the african office, and they cant process the credit card payment, even after they had me jump thru a million hoops with ID and a bunch of letters and junk
10:34 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, emailing for you also
10:34 PM rue_mohr: I know it wont be a problem from autralia
10:35 PM rue_mohr: I just know it would work if I had someone in australlia get and ship it to us
10:35 PM rue_mohr: even if you want to do it as a private ebay thing
10:35 PM rue_mohr: dont care, just need board!
10:35 PM rue_mohr: and at this point everyone is getting angry at me
10:36 PM rue_mohr: the customer says why isn't the gate fixed,
10:36 PM rue_mohr: the book keeper says why the hell am I trying to fix soemthing for a customer (long story, but thats what we do)
10:36 PM rue_mohr: and the african office says they cant process the credit card
10:37 PM zhanx: I sent the email and yes I take credit cards :P
10:37 PM rue_mohr: I do NOT want to have to use a doormaster unit cause I'd have to re-engineer everything
10:37 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, they wont sell it to you tho
10:37 PM zhanx: orlock if you can get it let me know
10:37 PM rue_mohr: they cant, they cant process the credit card
10:37 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, I have a business also
10:37 PM rue_mohr: 8-|
10:37 PM rue_mohr: this ALWAYS happens to me
10:37 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, your in the wrong country tho
10:38 PM zhanx: I told them the issue with the African office in the email
10:38 PM zhanx: :P
10:38 PM rue_mohr: if I have someone in australia get it, we get around all the 'go talk to africa' crap, and I can just get it done
10:39 PM rue_mohr: do you know how many times things I need are NOT IN canada?
10:39 PM zhanx: check your pm's
10:40 PM orlock: argh
10:40 PM orlock: their website is fucked
10:40 PM orlock: cant even browse to products
10:40 PM orlock: is CP75 the board or the box?
10:41 PM zhanx: I got a phone number already
10:41 PM zhanx: orlock, want to call it?
10:45 PM orlock: Can't right now, at work in open plan office :-\
10:45 PM zhanx: thats ok, i did
10:45 PM orlock: I was trying to find a link to the actual product on their website to send them to get a quote
10:45 PM orlock: but their fucking website is busted
10:46 PM orlock: Swing gate motor link goes to http://37.60.254.248/~centsys1/swing-gate-motors/
10:47 PM rue_mohr: haha
10:47 PM rue_mohr: we need the circuit board
10:54 PM orlock: Email sent.....
10:54 PM zhanx: i am on round ten of emails
10:55 PM zhanx: i should have a price here soon
10:55 PM zhanx: plus i have 18 internal email addresses now
10:55 PM _unreal_: and now I'm kind of a wake
10:56 PM rue_mohr: hah, if nothing else we will stirr them up
10:56 PM zhanx: Well i am CEO of my company :D
10:56 PM _unreal_: I was as well
10:56 PM rue_mohr: heh
10:56 PM Tom_L: tell them they DON'T want to hear from their kansas branch rep
10:57 PM zhanx: lol
10:57 PM rue_mohr: if they had just been willign to send us it from australia int eh first place I'd have it by now
10:57 PM Tom_L: pres, ceo coo and any other oo you can think of
10:57 PM zhanx: now they have canada and the usa asking with orlock as the line backer
10:57 PM * rue_mohr cakcles
10:58 PM rue_mohr: ... I just want the board...
10:58 PM zhanx: i know
10:58 PM Tom_L: it'll just get stuck in canuck customs for months
10:58 PM rue_mohr: well, it would get a job done
10:58 PM zhanx: no i will take it to canada and mail it
10:58 PM rue_mohr: I'm sur the customer is gonna start calling every 3 days asking when it'll be fixed
10:58 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, it would get here really fast direct from australia
10:59 PM Tom_L: tell em you got your US affiliates on it
10:59 PM rue_mohr: all rifs packages did
10:59 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, depends on where its shipped
10:59 PM zhanx: lets get the part
10:59 PM orlock: rue_mohr: You always buy aouth african parts?
11:00 PM rue_mohr: I'd hate for it to get stuck int eh standard USA customs for 4 months
11:00 PM rue_mohr: and pick up the $50 ransom
11:00 PM zhanx: no normally he likes South over aouth
11:00 PM rue_mohr: orlock,
11:00 PM rue_mohr: so, a guy bought a gate controller from a canadian company,
11:00 PM rue_mohr: years later is neighbour ran over it
11:01 PM rue_mohr: for yeras I ahve been going and adjusting it for him so he called me to fix it
11:01 PM rue_mohr: but the company isn't around, and the damn controller is from africa
11:01 PM rue_mohr: ok, whatever I'll just buy a new baord, they have an australian branch, it'll be here in no time
11:02 PM rue_mohr: price is less than the compeditors completel package (which is a worse product)
11:02 PM rue_mohr: and it'll be a drop-in repair, yay!
11:02 PM zhanx: watch me get the first quote to get it here by tuesday
11:02 PM rue_mohr: have my co-worker arrange the order
11:02 PM rue_mohr: but the australian branch tells him to use the african branch
11:03 PM Tom_L: where is .za?
11:03 PM rue_mohr: the african branch wants a copy of my passport, all the credit card information in duplicate,a nd a latter on company letterhead stating that we want to have our credit card charged for the amount they have bla bla bla
11:03 PM rue_mohr: so we do all that, twice
11:04 PM rue_mohr: and then they say the bank will not process it
11:05 PM rue_mohr: orlock, thats the story
11:06 PM rue_mohr: its the kind of thing I get stuck with on a weekly basis
11:06 PM Tom_itx: http://www.secdiszim.com/uploads/7/4/2/7/74275591/trade_price_list.pdf
11:06 PM Tom_L: $115
11:06 PM rue_mohr: the best part, is that when I finally turn up with the parts, the guy will probably have worked out soemthing else
11:07 PM Tom_L: where is .zw?
11:07 PM rue_mohr: heh
11:08 PM rue_mohr: probably africa
11:08 PM Tom_L: price quote is US
11:08 PM rue_mohr: thats the last laugh
11:08 PM rue_mohr: "oh we cant sell it to you, we cant process yoru credit card"
11:08 PM zhanx: vs me
11:08 PM zhanx: what day I want it here :D
11:09 PM rue_mohr: if the australia office wouldn't redirect me, I'd have it by now
11:10 PM rue_mohr: heat trace for water pipes is an amazing thing
11:10 PM rue_mohr: its nobodys responcability
11:10 PM rue_mohr: so
11:10 PM rue_mohr: I'm asked toput in heat trace
11:11 PM rue_mohr: I ahve to go to the elelctrical suppliers for the electrical parts, and the plumning place for the insulation and weather covers
11:11 PM zhanx: ugh that reminds me
11:11 PM rue_mohr: its not the sprinkler fitters job to install the heat trace, and its not the electrcians job to insulate it
11:11 PM rue_mohr: end result, it never gets done properly
11:11 PM rue_mohr: eneter me, the fool.
11:12 PM rue_mohr: anyhow, gathering all the parts for that is like playing whack-a-mole
11:12 PM rue_mohr: according to our supplier, I'm the only person in north americal buying voice grade leviton quickport modules...
11:25 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, ok, I remembered another question
11:26 PM rue_mohr: if you pull up arduino, under boards manager, which url did you use for your esp8266 stuff, I'm wondering if I replace what I have if that tools will show up
11:26 PM zhanx: OTA?
11:27 PM rue_mohr: yea
11:27 PM zhanx: one sec launching the ide
11:27 PM rue_mohr: the OTA is part of te 8266 stuff tho, right?
11:27 PM rue_mohr: http://arduino.esp8266.com/stable/package_esp8266com_index.json <-- is what I have
11:27 PM zhanx: weird mine is blank
11:28 PM zhanx: oh wait
11:28 PM zhanx: I cloned the git
11:29 PM rue_mohr: oh
11:29 PM zhanx: sorry long week
11:29 PM rue_mohr: how does that work to add another board?
11:29 PM zhanx: its a copy and paste and it adds it
11:29 PM rue_mohr: *blink*
11:30 PM rue_mohr: without addign it to the board managers url
11:30 PM zhanx: yes
11:30 PM rue_mohr: .... not heard of that trick yet
11:30 PM zhanx: its the hardware folder you are missing
11:30 PM rue_mohr: shall we go over that later?
11:30 PM zhanx: yes
11:30 PM rue_mohr: k
11:30 PM zhanx: let me redo mine so i know the steps
11:30 PM rue_mohr: dont mess it up!
11:31 PM zhanx: i won't its like the 5th time on it
11:31 PM rue_mohr: ....k
11:31 PM zhanx: clone it
11:31 PM zhanx: so that part is done
11:32 PM rue_mohr: https://github.com/esp8266/Arduino ?
11:32 PM zhanx: almost done with invoices for today
11:32 PM zhanx: yes
11:33 PM rue_mohr: hope you had supper, your a dead-ringer for bed by now
11:33 PM zhanx: i am up late for a reason
11:33 PM rue_mohr: er, all my time is messed up right now
11:33 PM rue_mohr: dunno whats going on, my internal clock is WAAAAAY OFF
11:33 PM zhanx: hd tv repair manual is next
11:34 PM rue_mohr: ouch
11:34 PM zhanx: one of them 4k tv's that are curved
11:34 PM zhanx: 72"
11:35 PM rue_mohr: hold down channel-up and reset for 5 seconds after powering up tv, on remote, dial 5573462 when you hear the beep press the power button, in the menu, choose "self repair"
11:35 PM rue_mohr: :)
11:35 PM zhanx: more like 100 screws to take out to open it
11:44 PM rue_mohr: to fix the flat tire on a ford: with the engine not running flip the ignition between off and accessory 5 times really fast, then honk the horn twice, open and close the driver side door 6 times, then put the hood up and open/close the driver side door 3 more times, turn the hazard lights on while holding the radio power button, open and close the passenger side door 4 times, and honk the horn 8 times, turn the headlights on and
11:44 PM rue_mohr: off 8 times, waiting 1 second each time while on AND off, proceed to follow the remaining advice from the people standing around your car.
11:46 PM rue_mohr: awe... cmon... it was a good punch line
11:50 PM rue_mohr: espota.py -i $ip -p 8266 --auth="$password" -f "$path" 2> /dev/null && echo -e "Success:\t$ip" || echo -e "Fail: \t$ip"
11:54 PM orlock: support@centsys.com.au
11:54 PM orlock: Remote Server returned '550 5.1.10 RESOLVER.ADR.RecipientNotFound; Recipient not found by SMTP
11:55 PM rue_mohr: wow
11:56 PM rue_mohr: so, if they cant process north american credit cards, and they can communicate with australia, how the hell are they still in business
11:56 PM orlock: that bounce actually came from their Seth Efrican exchange server, too
11:57 PM rue_mohr: lets see if zhanxs work results in anything, I may bother you again :)
11:57 PM rue_mohr: stay in Australia for a while this time eh?
11:57 PM rue_mohr: :)