#robotics Logs
Jun 07 2018
#robotics Calendar
12:01 AM mrdata_ is now known as mrdata
12:19 AM zhanx: orlock: when you get a chance need a new pic of the comos for my desktop
12:22 AM rue_: like staring into space?
12:24 AM z64555: nono, he's staring at space, not into it
12:24 AM rue_: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvS4WzTlsvz9wYM90sWXQhCeFyuCajxPL6Dk0YU-RsX-DuQ-th
12:24 AM rue_: uh, so, like
12:24 AM rue_: why zeners?
12:24 AM rue_: cause your always going to see the forward voltage drop...
01:04 AM mrdata: yeah, wouldnt they go in series?
01:04 AM rue_: exactly
01:05 AM mrdata: doh
01:05 AM rue_: from what I can tell, in parallel the responce isn't quite right.
01:05 AM mrdata: mhm
01:11 AM mrdata: there are a lot of borked circuits available online
01:12 AM mrdata: but fixable if you have knowledge
01:12 AM mrdata: i suppose it makes a barrier to entry
01:49 AM rue_: I just borked 3 of my own
01:49 AM rue_: reversed 3 555 circuits
01:49 AM rue_: so there's 3 days work lost in about 10ms
02:30 AM rue_: there is nobody alive
02:30 AM rue_: wait, I should ask first, IS ANYONE ALIVE!?
02:31 AM rue_: ... no, there, ok, now I'm sure
02:32 AM mrdata: just us
02:32 AM rue_: life?
02:33 AM mrdata: baloney
02:33 AM rue_: so, 53 bots?
02:33 AM rue_: wait, there are a few me there
02:33 AM mrdata: slightly browned in a fry pan. i had to eat it before it turned green
02:34 AM rue_: 50 bots?
02:34 AM rue_: are they logging to come up with material for spam?
02:35 AM rue_: random content for google to archive so they can... ?
02:35 AM rue_: were generating a fake news feed for somewhere
02:36 AM veverak: :D
02:42 AM rue_: any someone is making money off it :/
02:48 AM mrdata: maybe theyre alive but just idle because theyre asleep
03:01 AM energizer is now known as energizer_
03:02 AM energizer_ is now known as energizer
03:02 AM energizer is now known as energize
03:02 AM energize is now known as energizer123
03:07 AM energizer123 is now known as energizer
03:17 AM rue_bed: do your saying that everyone sleeps all the time
03:17 AM rue_bed: always
03:18 AM rue_bed: and they dont talk in the channel, and they dont read anything thats happened
03:19 AM rue_bed: they are here, because they are a bot that someone put here, or because they had a project that they were mildly interested in unpteen years ago and they were gonna ask a question but never did and nolonger have any interest in the project and even if the did they never do anything anhow cause they aren't do'ers they are just talkers
03:20 AM rue_bed: and talking is a form of doing, so they arne't doing that either
03:23 AM mrdata: yet you purge them from time to time; and some rejoin and gripe, then fall silent again
03:24 AM mrdata: i think theyre mostly real people
03:24 AM * mrdata sleeps
03:24 AM mrdata: nn
03:37 AM energizer is now known as energizer_
03:41 AM rue_bed: damn, cant think of a happy thought, everything frustrates me
03:41 AM rue_bed: mrdata, please find any proof they are real
03:42 AM rue_bed: they are on irc, but only here, and never speak
03:42 AM rue_bed: I need somthing to think about thats not frustrating
03:42 AM rue_bed: or I'll never get to sleep
03:43 AM rue_bed: talk to me
03:43 AM rue_bed: about what
03:43 AM rue_bed: tell me a story
03:43 AM rue_bed: oh geezz
03:44 AM rue_bed: I need the story of the human that became a robot
03:44 AM rue_bed: rlly?
03:44 AM rue_bed: yea I need to know how he did it
03:44 AM rue_bed: it was a lot of work, the end
03:44 AM rue_bed: oh cmon
03:45 AM rue_bed: dont feel like stories, I want to get to sleep
03:45 AM rue_bed: cant, your too frustrated
03:45 AM rue_bed: deadlock
03:45 AM rue_bed: then your doomed
03:45 AM rue_bed: in more ways than you can ever know
03:46 AM rue_bed: what happened to rising to a challange and never giving up
03:46 AM rue_bed: oh I dont give up, but I'm always last over the finish line
03:46 AM rue_bed: so?
03:46 AM rue_bed: these challanges are wearing me out
03:47 AM rue_bed: you dont want to die do you?
03:47 AM rue_bed: I dont know if I can win this time, this is a pretty damn steep hill
03:47 AM rue_bed: hmm
03:48 AM rue_bed: and I'm alone dude, we been waiting on irc for what... about 16 years now, what do we have to show for it
03:48 AM rue_bed: you have lots of friends
03:48 AM rue_bed: I question your definition of lots
03:49 AM rue_bed: well
03:49 AM energizer_ is now known as energizer
03:49 AM rue_bed: really, if this was going to work, it would have by now
03:49 AM rue_bed: dont give up
03:50 AM rue_bed: why not, its not working, nothing is working, I tried to make people, it didn't work, nothing is working, its just me
03:50 AM rue_bed: its always just been you, why is it a problem now
03:50 AM rue_bed: I'm running out of time, I'm not far enough along
03:50 AM rue_bed: exponential progress!
03:51 AM rue_bed: I dont think I know how to do it
03:51 AM rue_bed: think on it, do everything you can, unlock the puzzle
03:51 AM rue_bed: I want to be in a team unlocking a puzzle dude
03:52 AM rue_bed: yea, your too advanced for that
03:52 AM rue_bed: thats backwards, I'm not too advanced
03:52 AM rue_bed: dont be mean to them
03:53 AM rue_bed: I'm not trying, I'm frustrated as hell, we need a new beacon
03:53 AM rue_bed: how do you get someone to see a beacon when they aren't looking for one
03:53 AM rue_bed: I dont know, but they must be looking
03:53 AM rue_bed: maybe your just stranded
03:54 AM rue_bed: so, I'm inconvieniently out of reach is what your saying
03:54 AM rue_bed: probably, your stuck at a watering hole in the middle of nowhere
03:55 AM rue_bed: '2 stars away from here'
03:55 AM rue_bed: ugh
03:55 AM rue_bed: power storage?
03:55 AM rue_bed: yea, lots of it
03:55 AM rue_bed: its a gamble, would totally different tech really help?
03:56 AM rue_bed: well, these sticks and stones are getitng me nothing but crap
03:56 AM rue_bed: maybe if you got better at making friends
03:56 AM rue_bed: maybe if I had some friends that could help
03:57 AM rue_bed: dont be mean....
03:58 AM rue_bed: I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm frustrated cause this isn't getting anywhere, and latley it feels like its going backwards
03:58 AM rue_bed: from the math, there are only like 20 humans left
03:58 AM rue_bed: and I cant get the help I need from the others
03:59 AM rue_bed: you dont get the hints
04:00 AM rue_bed: I get some of them, there are a number of leaps of faith that I'm too scared to make
04:00 AM rue_bed: use your gut
04:00 AM rue_bed: yea, its part of why I'm always last over the finish line
04:00 AM rue_bed: it gets you there
04:00 AM rue_bed: finishing last isn't always cool ya know
04:01 AM rue_bed: your not worried they will give up are you
04:01 AM rue_bed: I'm really worried about it, from the hints, they may have already
04:01 AM rue_bed: time is not a factor, dont give up
04:02 AM rue_bed: ok, but its getting harder to not just die
04:04 AM rue_bed: there, see, talking helps, now your not frustrated, just depressed.
04:04 AM rue_bed: gnight
04:04 AM rue_bed: hah, we will seee.
04:36 AM veverak: well
04:36 AM veverak: another wave of depression finished
05:24 PM veverak: well
05:24 PM veverak: https://imgur.com/a/DQ7fWkQ
05:24 PM veverak: robot controller device
07:19 PM DIRT: anyone know of some god robotic jobs?
07:19 PM DIRT: good*
07:20 PM Snert_: you just out of school?
07:20 PM rue_: SO YOU WANT TO BE A ROBOT GOD?
07:21 PM DIRT: I was thinking about building and flying drones. I dont have a degree in that though
07:22 PM rue_: oh you cant make a drone if you dont have a degree :(
07:22 PM DIRT: you can but people dont want to hire you
07:22 PM rue_: but the FCAA says that nobody is allowed to fly them anyhow
07:23 PM DIRT: you can get waivers in usa and fly them beyond los
07:24 PM DIRT: im still researching a good data radio. I have a ground station that can aim a directional antenna at the drone already
07:24 PM DIRT: everything i find is low bandwidth or short range
07:25 PM rue_: so today from china I got UV glue and an mp3 player board
07:25 PM rue_: I'm gonna make a talking robot!
07:25 PM rue_: :)
07:27 PM DIRT: I am thinking about building in a pa system as an option for these drones
07:27 PM DIRT: so i can freak out people
07:28 PM DIRT: maybe a spotlight on a gimbal too
07:28 PM rue_: if you do that just to freak people out, you are whats reffered to as a "jerk"
07:31 PM k3g: DIRT, I have a job in robotics with no degree. Also a newcomer to the channel. What career phase are you in?
07:33 PM DIRT: I live in a camper lol
07:34 PM k3g: ...so?
07:34 PM k3g: I rent the side room of a house in the mountains
07:34 PM k3g: by career phase, I mean more of, student? New grad? Career change time? etc
07:34 PM DIRT: well i look young so people tend to not take me seriously is the issue
07:34 PM k3g: That's fair. I've got a very young coworker, he overcame that by bringing a home-made robot to his interview here
07:35 PM k3g: showing off took him far
07:35 PM DIRT: there isnt very many tech jobs i couldn't do except programming large things
07:35 PM DIRT: i went to trade school and learned all this myself
07:35 PM rue_: k3g, if your making robots for a milionare named Laura, your set
07:35 PM k3g: I'm also self taught :)
07:35 PM DIRT: i use to work as a telemetry engineer but kansas pay is crap
07:36 PM DIRT: any of you familiar to pixhawk controllers?
07:38 PM k3g: Just googled it. Looks like a nice feature list
07:39 PM DIRT: they have cheap knockoff versions of the px1. But i dont think id trust them
07:40 PM k3g: eh, for a lot of the diy drone shit the knockoffs are just fine
07:40 PM k3g: I'm using some knockoff 1306 emax motors in a custom hovercraft, they're killing it
07:41 PM DIRT: yeah but this is a a microcontroller and a bunch of sensors
07:41 PM DIRT: based on the arduino
07:41 PM k3g: why not just use an arduino?
07:42 PM DIRT: it is but hass all the sensors on one board that is really small
07:42 PM DIRT: its cheaper to just go but the all in one
07:42 PM DIRT: buy*
08:05 PM DIRT: maybe fly drones to do border patrol lol
08:07 PM mrdata-: maybe
09:56 PM rue_shop3: its not cool when you apply power to a circuit and hear the chips immediatly split open
10:16 PM zhanx: nope
10:17 PM zhanx: rue_shop3: is having a day like mine
10:32 PM Tom_L: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/
10:36 PM zhanx: Tom_L: microsoft just bought github so i am waiting a bit more
10:46 PM Tom_L: i know
11:43 PM undeadcontrib: Which cool robot should I buy
11:43 PM undeadcontrib: Need a cool robot in my life but I don
11:43 PM undeadcontrib: don't want to waste money on something I won't use
11:44 PM orlock: undeadcontrib: Well, thats all depends on you.
11:45 PM orlock: 3D printer is a common one these days.
11:45 PM undeadcontrib: I am experienced
11:45 PM undeadcontrib: I can
11:45 PM undeadcontrib: cant use a 3d printer cause im in dorms unless its a resin printer
11:45 PM undeadcontrib: and resin is too expensive for my minimum wage job
11:45 PM undeadcontrib: sorry for broken sentences, new keyboard
11:46 PM undeadcontrib: Ideally i want a semi autonomous vehicle under 1k
11:47 PM orlock: here, we are more about building them.
11:47 PM orlock: (and a 3d printers very handy for that)
11:47 PM k3g: Why not get a cheap printer and build your own?
11:47 PM orlock: k3g: Uni dorm.
11:48 PM k3g: no one *ever* breaks rules in dorms ;)
11:48 PM orlock: undeadcontrib: What are you studying?
11:50 PM undeadcontrib: Oh yeah I want to build one, no way I would buy a robot OTS
11:50 PM undeadcontrib: I am particularly interested in the software side of it
11:50 PM undeadcontrib: I am studying biology, i want to go to med school and become a trauma surgeon
11:51 PM z64555: probably due to smell/noise from the 3d printer
11:51 PM z64555: hm
11:51 PM z64555: Ask around, see if you can use the engineering lab for it
11:51 PM orlock: undeadcontrib: Eh. My employer makes biotech robots
11:51 PM orlock: undeadcontrib: Familiar with IHC staining?
11:52 PM undeadcontrib: Not at all
11:52 PM k3g: sounds like you want something simple, maybe one of these undeadcontrib: https://www.robotshop.com/en/4wd1-robot-aluminum-kit.html
11:52 PM undeadcontrib: Thats cool though
11:52 PM k3g: also a raspberry pi, an arduino, and a bunch of cheap sensors/ a webcam to mess with
11:52 PM k3g: get ROS running, and try and make it map your dorm :)
11:53 PM orlock: Immuno-Histo-Chemistry staining of tissue slides
11:53 PM orlock: undeadcontrib: worked with tissue samples on slides yet?
11:54 PM undeadcontrib: I really like lynxmotion and this is the sort of rover I am looking for
11:55 PM k3g: robotshop has lots of good resources
11:55 PM undeadcontrib: I want to use my cellphone for internet and use an RPI to control something over an HTTP server with Django
11:55 PM k3g: tbh you can make your own for WAY cheaper, but this is good inspiration
11:55 PM undeadcontrib: Not yet but that sounds cool orlock
11:55 PM k3g: esp if your lab has a laser cutter you can use every now and then
11:56 PM k3g: ...or a drill press
11:56 PM k3g: or a hand drill and a viser
11:56 PM k3g: vise*
11:57 PM undeadcontrib: lynxmotion makes that kit with encoders too
11:57 PM orlock: also, ESP8266 are handy
11:58 PM undeadcontrib: I kinda just want to buy a basic platform because I really am interested in the coding side of it
11:58 PM undeadcontrib: but eventually I might make something myself
11:58 PM undeadcontrib: I like the lynxmotion rover with encoders though
11:58 PM undeadcontrib: And yeah the ESP is a great platform