#robotics Logs
Mar 25 2018
#robotics Calendar
12:10 AM rue_: zhanx, ok, 700-1500
12:13 AM zhanx__: you need to test it
12:13 AM rue_: zhanx, and how about the AC compressors, I suppose its a matter or how much air I want
12:13 AM zhanx__: faster is better on that
12:13 AM rue_: if I want 1Kw out of the alternator
12:13 AM zhanx__: till you hit clutch slip
12:13 AM rue_: 83A
12:13 AM zhanx__: lol no
12:13 AM rue_: heh, well
12:13 AM rue_: uh the boat motor has no clutch
12:13 AM zhanx__: if you want that i can link you one
12:13 AM zhanx__: 400-1500 rpm one
12:13 AM rue_: funny enough
12:13 AM rue_: I wonder what the two I have are
12:13 AM zhanx__: this is 80A 24vdc
12:13 AM rue_: k, so, the last question being a good one, I wonder what speed the boat engine can do before it explodes
12:13 AM zhanx__: or 150a 24vdc
12:13 AM rue_: its a 2 stroke after all
12:13 AM rue_: ooh, hey
12:13 AM zhanx__: 10,000 rpm
12:13 AM rue_: 24V
12:13 AM zhanx__: look up us army surplus generators
12:13 AM rue_: hah, I'm in canada, that search only brings up water pistols and 50 year old helicopters
12:13 AM zhanx__: one sec
12:14 AM rue_: 12V is surplus tho
12:17 AM rue_: I mean, I can get 12V anywhere, I like the 24V idea cuase it'll be less torque
12:17 AM rue_: 1kw, being about 42A
12:17 AM zhanx__: https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartDetails/5051/Starter-Generator-30-Volt-300-AMPS
12:17 AM rue_: I wish
12:17 AM rue_: maybe I should use a dc motor for a genny so I can use it as a astarter
12:17 AM zhanx__: http://www.eriksmilitarysurplus.com/al200ampduvo.html
12:17 AM rue_: the engine is REALLY easy to start
12:17 AM zhanx__: that is what i was talking about
12:17 AM zhanx__: its a beast
12:17 AM rue_: dude, its only a 2HP 2 stroke boat engine
12:17 AM zhanx__: that works at 200 rpm\s
12:17 AM rue_: from the bits I can read on the nameplate, I think its continious is only 1.8Hp
12:17 AM rue_: hah $995
12:17 AM zhanx__: yea that is a bs price
12:17 AM rue_: the budget for the whole robot is $240
12:17 AM zhanx__: if you need an upgrade http://www.marcorsyscom.marines.mil/Portals/105/pdmeps/docs/APS/APSOBV400AmpKit.pdf
12:18 AM rue_: that thing from the first link looks OLD
12:18 AM rue_: like 1970 old
12:18 AM zhanx__: fyi i never changed one of those, after we installed them, they never broke 400 amp ones
12:18 AM rue_: yea, I can see that
12:19 AM rue_: the major thing I dont like about a car alternator is the efficiency
12:19 AM rue_: I know their horrid
12:20 AM zhanx: this is a gen not an alt
12:20 AM rue_: yea
12:20 AM rue_: aka doubles as a starter
12:20 AM rue_: which I had thought of
12:20 AM rue_: I need the fastest route to a working bot tho
12:20 AM zhanx__: want me to make some calls and get a bad one for you?
12:20 AM rue_: so I'v tasked to get the power pack asap
12:21 AM rue_: need to keep it simple for now
12:21 AM rue_: like I say, the whole robot is $240
12:21 AM rue_: I have two 12V alternators kicking around
12:21 AM rue_: my immediate problem is the short spline comming out of the engine
12:21 AM rue_: about 1/2"
12:22 AM rue_: 1/2" dia, about 1.5" long
12:22 AM rue_: @hp, the power must be almost all rpm
12:22 AM zhanx__: weld it?
12:22 AM rue_: I dont think its got bearings for load
12:22 AM zhanx: wait
12:23 AM zhanx: you need a HET genny
12:23 AM rue_: so my thought is to build a pulley on bearings and give it a spline in the end
12:23 AM zhanx: left hand spun
12:23 AM rue_: het?
12:23 AM rue_: het?
12:23 AM zhanx: let me link you
12:23 AM rue_: the power pack is 1 alternator and two AC compressors
12:23 AM rue_: I think the comrpessors go in parallel
12:24 AM rue_: my numebrs say..
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12:24 AM rue_: hahahah
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12:24 AM zhanx: crap
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12:24 AM rue_: my numbers say the air should be 11.5gpm @ 300psi
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12:25 AM rue_: hahah
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12:25 AM rue_: done?
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12:25 AM zhanx: that one
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12:25 AM zhanx__: /MKpK6JboC9IdpKbaU60ROdxsgjRPWFIvvslNYYY1a1EqVJPM0Z6RbQSpL7ae0C8sgpjLdzNM5jmkz2ha9ZxlUV1Yo0jGb5PQujYKk3k1d2ltJppYbUTmMfd7InTMqbTyBjfQrodiQQRwov04fbdRh2EA9akKBEb15UpAP3syr8qU21QRQzahPVZhuv6xu31NsJZcAyjMo9kARc6W4Xm1R9KGwlh0DQb9x7Q4bjVToFjjYi5SqYO6IN6tcoXklwe0nC+tlxrq1pJsCToQDJJN7gyLEHStKVZ2IOozDwMEfGhWDwLysW9in20t5wQgAggklIkH8ISjUgTI50fYwBcQSEzeAfC9ZJ1G2VXJjMVgFCd558KzD2DKVGRA8YmeVesr2CtQgihWO6IrVIynkaSkimmYt3EN9TkdfaTCyqMrpXcD
12:25 AM rue_: ROFL
12:25 AM zhanx__: 2QlJtqL/GpeiHTNnBvFxSHFgoKYTlmSUke0Ra1LanQnFBRyNKWNxAoJiuieMTrh3P6T8KpQg1yJykj0zaXStnF4DFhKDh5yoUSUkkOZhJUmwBNrm8njXlmHx47KEoSNJMCbnjXGNlYsy2MO/wBoiR1a4kaEmItJvzNW3OimNQsg4ZwlJ1SAUnmDNVCMYcWTNyl4N1snaCGOvRlKQWlIUTa+WQqOBnmSCK8+xeMWmUJJCZ3bxu8K9N2TssusBtxlTKiczjizJUYACUp3C3daq+K6Ctn/ADB/SaiM1Fuy3FtKhuwnlZi2kDJkQJF/aSFDMeMzbdFBduoIdQCTAWJE863uymUsNpbJzAGTCIJIECTqQB7qq7T2ThXzKm3AeRMeUGpU6djcLVEWwsO6pLqVyUmSg6SEqKbDhpWZDZ+tqaQTnU
12:26 AM zhanx: network lag got me
12:26 AM mrdata: pastefail
12:26 AM * rue_ holds up a sign "FLOODING!"
12:26 AM rue_: ROFL
12:26 AM zhanx: badly at that
12:26 AM rue_: my numbers say the air should be 11.5gpm @ 300psi
12:26 AM zhanx: saw that
12:26 AM rue_: OK
12:26 AM mrdata: are you using firefox?
12:26 AM zhanx: yea
12:26 AM mrdata: it's buggy about that
12:27 AM zhanx: grabbed the wrong link to paste
12:27 AM rue_: who the f designs a link like that anyhow?
12:27 AM zhanx: google
12:27 AM rue_: I can see if thats the dir you hide your porn in, but Zowie!
12:28 AM mrdata: firefox "copy image location" seems to fail sometimes and does a copy image
12:28 AM zhanx__: anyways, that is a het
12:28 AM zhanx__: https://oshkoshdefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/HET-Global-2.jpg
12:28 AM rue_: i'll take your word for it
12:28 AM rue_: ok
12:28 AM zhanx__: its a 24 single wire output
12:28 AM rue_: but I need 1kw of electricity and the air
12:28 AM zhanx__: 24 vdc
12:28 AM zhanx__: 100 amps
12:28 AM rue_: not all at once
12:28 AM zhanx__: at 500 rpms
12:29 AM zhanx__: does up to 28 vdc at 1500 rpms
12:29 AM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1040018.jpg <-- my robot
12:29 AM rue_: not huge
12:29 AM rue_: big, but no battlebot
12:29 AM rue_: my goal is like less than a tonne
12:29 AM zhanx__: its the size of a chevy 1 wire from the 80's
12:29 AM rue_: less than 1/2 tonne
12:30 AM zhanx__: same mounts also i think
12:30 AM zhanx__: but its dc only
12:30 AM rue_: so I tank the 300psi, and regulate it down to 60psi
12:30 AM zhanx__: or you could do fork truck
12:30 AM rue_: so it should have good peak power
12:31 AM zhanx__: they have a 30 vdc one for them
12:31 AM zhanx__: 200-700 rpms
12:32 AM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1090884.jpg
12:32 AM rue_: the engine
12:32 AM rue_: runs like a sewing machine
12:32 AM rue_: A FREAKING LOUD ONE
12:32 AM zhanx__: yea, let me find a lower rpm one for you
12:33 AM rue_: its a 2 stroke
12:33 AM rue_: so rpm prolly isn't a problem
12:33 AM zhanx__: and can't handle a load
12:33 AM rue_: 2hp peak
12:33 AM rue_: just all in rpm
12:33 AM zhanx__: yep and a load will kill it
12:33 AM rue_: zhanx__, the problem is that I need a unidirectional engine
12:33 AM rue_: it water cooled
12:33 AM rue_: no oil sump
12:34 AM zhanx__: you need a mini rotary engine
12:34 AM rue_: and tiny cause its 2 stroke
12:34 AM rue_: well that would be better yea
12:34 AM rue_: but I want a mixed fuel
12:34 AM zhanx__: they are
12:34 AM rue_: and then I want to mod it to run on propane
12:34 AM zhanx__: like i said
12:34 AM zhanx__: rotary engine
12:34 AM rue_: I wont argue
12:35 AM rue_: but I'm working with what I have
12:35 AM zhanx__: time to make one!
12:35 AM rue_: the power pack is a module,
12:35 AM rue_: upgradable later
12:35 AM rue_: for now, car alternators/compressors , boat engines
12:35 AM zhanx__: just keep in mind that engine is not gonna last long under a load
12:35 AM rue_: lead acid batteries
12:36 AM rue_: I'll play the ratios
12:36 AM zhanx__: good
12:36 AM rue_: keep its rpm up
12:36 AM rue_: but I dont know what it can do
12:36 AM zhanx__: then send it. try it out and see what you get
12:36 AM rue_: and I dont know how I'm gonna hook into it
12:36 AM zhanx__: the shaft of course
12:36 AM rue_: silly little spline
12:37 AM zhanx__: you got pinion gears
12:37 AM rue_: my idea is to design the pack like a backpack on the bot
12:37 AM rue_: ooo I didn't think gears, your right
12:37 AM zhanx__: axles got c clips so you can pull it
12:37 AM rue_: 4:1 might be ok
12:37 AM rue_: or more?
12:37 AM zhanx__: hence why you keep me around
12:38 AM rue_: plan to run it 8k?
12:38 AM rue_: the alternator at 1500
12:38 AM zhanx__: 2.73:1 is normal fyi for cars
12:38 AM zhanx__: i run 4.56:1
12:38 AM rue_: 5:1 is 8000->1500
12:38 AM zhanx__: 5.10
12:38 AM rue_: this *is* a 2 stroke
12:38 AM zhanx__: they no make 5:1
12:39 AM zhanx__: its 5.10 to 1
12:39 AM rue_: I'm sure I can find stuff at the scrap yard
12:39 AM zhanx__: yep
12:39 AM rue_: ok gears,
12:39 AM zhanx__: look at hot rods and sports cars
12:39 AM rue_: oooh, there is pulley ratio too
12:39 AM zhanx__: higher gears on them
12:39 AM zhanx__: oh and S-10;s
12:39 AM rue_: so if I do 2:1 from the engine and I can let the pullies take the rest
12:40 AM zhanx__: S-10 has great gears
12:40 AM rue_: ? transmission/
12:40 AM rue_: ?
12:40 AM zhanx__: rear end
12:40 AM zhanx__: or transfer case
12:40 AM rue_: kinda heavy for just 2hp isn't it?
12:40 AM zhanx__: no you need the spinning mass to account for the load
12:41 AM zhanx__: like a hit or miss engine
12:41 AM rue_: its got a hell of a flywheel
12:41 AM rue_: its not like a mower thats relying on having a heavy blade
12:41 AM zhanx__: after you build it without listening to me, i can help fix it later
12:41 AM rue_: :) can I build anything
12:42 AM zhanx__: yep
12:42 AM rue_: thats the first hurtly
12:42 AM zhanx__: i would personally
12:42 AM rue_: you would spend more money
12:42 AM zhanx__: use the gears (4 low in reverse) from a transfer case
12:42 AM zhanx__: to save money
12:42 AM rue_: If I pull it off, I'll be like, one of the first 10 people in the world to build a working mecha, and the first to do it on a $240 budeget
12:43 AM zhanx__: first to be cheap is right
12:43 AM rue_: they'll take 8k rpm?
12:43 AM zhanx__: yep
12:43 AM zhanx__: they will take 10k rp,
12:43 AM rue_: k
12:43 AM rue_: but timing gears are 2:1
12:43 AM zhanx__: and a hella lot more hp than you got
12:43 AM rue_: tho @hp they might disintegrate
12:44 AM zhanx__: got access to a 2006 dodge ram?
12:44 AM zhanx__: timing gears are metal on it
12:44 AM rue_: dunno what I can get from the scrapper
12:44 AM rue_: k
12:44 AM zhanx__: 2006 is the last year i think that they were all metal and thin chain
12:44 AM rue_: I wanna be carfull with sideload on that engine too
12:44 AM rue_: its designed for just torque
12:44 AM zhanx__: long chain at that
12:45 AM rue_: I have ideas, I JUST need to stay awake
12:45 AM zhanx__: also dodge is all metric which will make you happy
12:45 AM rue_: hah
12:45 AM rue_: nothing in canada is metric
12:45 AM rue_: but the yamaha boat engine
12:45 AM zhanx__: cause its from china
12:46 AM rue_: this one is japan
12:46 AM rue_: maybe its suzuki
12:46 AM zhanx__: exported by them or made?
12:46 AM rue_: :S
12:46 AM rue_: says made in cast into alum
12:46 AM rue_: china will do that for a price tho
12:46 AM rue_: maybe not 25 years ago
12:46 AM rue_: iirc the casting said 1990
12:46 AM zhanx__: i got a pan, Made in japan, shipped from china
12:48 AM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/reprap3/p1090870.jpg
12:48 AM rue_: the new printer is working good
12:51 AM rue_: ok, tommroow I have to remember to plant the potatoes
12:51 AM mrdata: borg green, i see
12:51 AM mrdata: PLA?
12:51 AM rue_: *blink*
12:51 AM zhanx__: i got 2 feet of snow still
12:51 AM rue_: yea all pla
12:51 AM rue_: hah
12:52 AM zhanx__: getting more snow also
12:52 AM zhanx__: last year i was planted at this time
12:53 AM rue_: hah, trump is crashing the dow HARD
12:53 AM zhanx__: tredeau is getting more tariff;s for canada at the same time
12:54 AM rue_: so we hear
12:54 AM zhanx__: like trump he affects things outside his little circle
12:54 AM rue_: it would be great to get control of our stuff back
12:55 AM zhanx__: china is thinking about your wood export. that might hurt you guys
12:55 AM rue_: at some point I'm sure the dollars will unlock
12:55 AM zhanx__: can we unlock not stupid people in charge?
12:55 AM rue_: lots of raw logs go off in barges to china, when they get their, their lumber
12:56 AM zhanx__: now china might tariff it
12:56 AM rue_: when our govt did the raw log export thing, LOTS of jobs were lost
12:57 AM zhanx__: not just there
12:57 AM zhanx__: i live 30 minutes from canuke land remember?
12:57 AM rue_: we get LOTS of tarrifs from the usa and there are none in return, so I'm not worried
12:57 AM zhanx__: the usa canada trade thing is a none issue
12:57 AM rue_: unfortunatly all the food we create is processed in the usa
12:58 AM zhanx__: its more of a usa mexico or canada mexico thing
12:58 AM rue_: so, I bought 4 ssr's, they took 4 months to get here
12:59 AM zhanx__: look at maple syrup. its now cheaper for me to buy usa made than canada made this year
12:59 AM rue_: wrong ones, I accidently ordred ones with ac inupts
12:59 AM zhanx__: that has never happened
12:59 AM rue_: mhm
12:59 AM rue_: I thought australia was great, almost EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE was local
12:59 AM rue_: almost nothing from other countries
01:00 AM zhanx__: NY passed a bill. by 2020 95% of all goods made have to be made local
01:00 AM rue_: I think thats good
01:00 AM zhanx__: new green houses going up everywhere
01:00 AM rue_: force some self sufficience
01:01 AM rue_: the amount of energy we use up in transporting things is insane
01:01 AM zhanx__: well some stuff will always be made somewhere else. but the rest. save on gas / fuel make it local
01:01 AM zhanx__: issue is our winter sucks up here
01:01 AM rue_: there are like 5 struggling farms around here
01:02 AM rue_: which is stupid
01:02 AM rue_: we truck in all the food
01:02 AM zhanx__: i got asked to be part of the local co-op this year for microgreens
01:02 AM rue_: what is ny at now, 5%?
01:03 AM zhanx__: 30% ish
01:03 AM rue_: huh
01:03 AM rue_: I wonder how their counting that
01:03 AM zhanx__: not sure
01:03 AM rue_: tv, stereo, couch, burger, sweater
01:03 AM zhanx__: i know i grow 60% of the veggies i eat
01:03 AM rue_: ?????
01:04 AM rue_: wish I could get to that
01:04 AM zhanx__: beyond that, i can't tell you
01:04 AM zhanx__: my garden is bigger than yours
01:04 AM rue_: wait, if you factor in hwo many veggies I eat, I might be there
01:04 AM zhanx__: my garden is a full acre of land
01:04 AM rue_: yea, if I did that my neighbours might complain
01:05 AM rue_: being that my place is only 1/2 acre
01:05 AM rue_: "hi bert"
01:05 AM zhanx__: if it wasn't for the weather i would be planted this year, but i just ran out of last years crop
01:05 AM rue_: "WTF ARE YOU DOING?"
01:05 AM rue_: "tilling a garden!"
01:05 AM rue_: "THIS IS MY YARD"
01:05 AM zhanx__: lol
01:05 AM zhanx__: i got 6 acres to plant on tho
01:06 AM zhanx__: next week i am putting up the green house
01:06 AM rue_: I mean gee, grass was just meant to keep fields while they were idle wasn't it?
01:07 AM zhanx__: rue_: you try plain greek yogurt as dressing?
01:07 AM zhanx__: it was
01:07 AM rue_: cholesterol, avoiding yogart
01:07 AM zhanx__: k
01:08 AM rue_: I been really thinking about tillin up the back (back back) yard for potatoes
01:08 AM zhanx__: its great with a pepper and onion mix
01:08 AM zhanx__: what i got 65 pounds of potatoes last year from a small patch
01:09 AM zhanx__: might do rice this year
01:09 AM rue_: maybe I shoudl jsut change it up for wheat
01:09 AM zhanx__: wheat makes beer
01:09 AM zhanx__: or flowers for the bees
01:09 AM rue_: "he brought in a combine, it drove 10' and was done his whole crop"
01:10 AM zhanx__: i did 200 feet x 20 of flowers last year for the bees
01:10 AM rue_: good show, I'm adding lots of flowering stuff around the berries I put in
01:10 AM zhanx__: this year, i got seeds sent to me
01:10 AM rue_: (huckleberry and blueberry)
01:11 AM zhanx__: gonna do a 8 foot row x 1600 feet
01:11 AM rue_: showoff
01:11 AM zhanx__: they were free
01:12 AM zhanx__: besides the bees need all the help they can get
01:12 AM zhanx__: yes i asked for more seed, i can do 4500 feet on the property line
01:13 AM zhanx__: unlike you rue_ i am a part of the co-op
01:13 AM rue_shop4: somehow I pictured you living in a 1/4 acre sububria lot
01:13 AM zhanx__: i help cover greenhouses and they till for me
01:13 AM zhanx__: i live in the middle of a swamp land
01:14 AM rue_shop4: so, no water problems
01:15 AM rue_shop4: so THATS why his leading export is rice
01:15 AM zhanx__: that is why i want to grow it
01:15 AM zhanx__: my leading export is tech support
01:16 AM zhanx__: i am like india but i speak english
03:07 AM rue_: zhanx__, so then why do so many people reply with what you say with "wha?"
03:08 AM rue_: ;)
09:55 AM polprog: lol
09:55 AM polprog: https://puu.sh/zPdQY/a85b50c984.jpg
10:50 AM rue_bed: hah
06:04 PM endiruna: hi! I am looking to buy a hackable vacuum cleaner robot to experiment with. any suggestions?
06:32 PM mrdata: endiruna, i havent taken a rumba apart to check it, but they must be available at garage sales and flea markets at low cost
06:33 PM mrdata: does it meet your needs?
06:33 PM orlock: pretty sure they sell specifically hackable versions too
06:38 PM valledelucena is now known as rafaeldelucena
08:33 PM rue_: they do, you CAN actaully pay more than $1000 for a roomba and get less, amazing eh?
08:52 PM MrCurious: https://twitter.com/Sweden_Dennis/status/977466386694930432
09:08 PM mrdata: https://newatlas.com/roomba-robot-art-mr-head-kickstarter/53902/