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[00:01:06] <rue_shop3> leviton media panel...
[00:01:41] <rue_shop3> modules for those are crazy expensive
[00:02:17] <rue_shop3> arg,
[00:02:22] <rue_shop3> Its almost bedtime
[00:02:32] <rue_shop3> but I got the cnc pendant talking
[00:02:43] <rue_shop3> got the keyboard debounce fixed
[00:02:54] <rue_shop3> the lcd works
[00:03:56] <rue_shop3> keyboard dosn't have diodes, so I cant do full combination detection :(
[00:04:34] <rue_shop3> oh, turns out my bed fan was making my prints brittle as all hell, no cohesion
[00:05:05] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah ABS hates breeze.. PLA loves it though
[00:05:13] <rue_shop3> pla
[00:05:22] <rue_shop3> so I'm confused
[00:05:38] <rue_shop3> the layers just dont stick if I use the bed fan
[00:06:12] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: might need a bit more nozzle heat then
[00:06:24] <rue_shop3> tried a huge range, no diff
[00:06:33] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: if your heater is a long way from the tip, the fan will cool the nozzle before the plastic comes out
[00:06:49] <Triffid_Hunter> another reason I like the arcol v4 design, heater is right there ;)
[00:07:21] <rue_shop3> me and my buddy both put togethor 1.75mm machines, and they perform WAY better, I'm thinking its to do with the soak time for the filament
[00:07:29] <rue_shop3> this one is 3mm
[00:07:51] <rue_shop3> I'd agree there is a fair bit of distance to the tip
[00:08:04] <rue_shop3> and the sensor is right up against the heater
[00:08:08] <rue_shop3> meh
[00:09:31] <z64555> rue_shop3: I think 20Hz is about the fastest one can repeatedly press
[00:10:12] <rue_shop3> hmm
[00:10:44] <rue_shop3> so, if the loop is, say 100 instructions, at 16Mhz
[00:11:04] <rue_shop3> 16Khz...
[00:11:19] <z64555> trying to do a debounce?
[00:11:26] <rue_shop3> yea, so 800 is reasonable
[00:11:33] <rue_shop3> k, I'm set to 2000 now
[00:13:16] <rue_shop3> https://paste.debian.net/902485/
[00:13:26] <rue_shop3> it seemed crazy, but I suppose its reasonable
[00:13:35] <rue_shop3> oh, I dialed it up for testing..., hehe
[00:16:10] <rue_shop3> AND I have HF filtering in the scanning routine
[00:20:16] <rue_shop3> hmmmm, rs232 buffer....
[00:20:29] <rue_shop3> damnit, its past bedtime
[00:41:59] <rue_shop3> sweet, I found the old rs232 kits for the linksys boxes
[01:02:12] <rue_shop3> ok, it draws 57mA
[01:24:25] <rue_house> I wonder how many liters of ice have dissapeared from the icecaps in the last 50 years
[01:25:03] <rue_house> the amount of energy they have been absorbing by melting must be tremendous
[01:31:50] <z64555> we need more water vapor in the upper atmosphere
[01:34:38] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_house:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13936394/huaqiangbei-electronics-market-shenzhen-china-gadget and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY may interest you - and hephlant when he comes back too
[01:46:44] <rue_house> DAMNIT
[01:46:57] <rue_house> that has to be my next holiday destinaion
[01:52:50] <rue_house> Triffid_Hunter, hey, if I came over next year, for vaccation, could you help me find somewhere to stay?
[01:56:16] <rue_house> no is an answer...
[01:56:27] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_house: yeah sure
[01:56:28] <rue_house> usually an alternative to yes
[01:56:33] <rue_house> hmm
[01:57:09] <rue_house> what would be a reasonable amount for living (not playing) costs for 2 weeks?
[01:57:27] * rue_house wonders what travel time is to there...
[01:57:46] <rue_house> I can see losing $2000 playing...
[01:57:51] <rue_house> easy
[01:58:46] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_house: hm, can live on US$500/week easily enough
[01:59:06] <Triffid_Hunter> many here live on far less than that, that's for a fairly comfortable time
[02:04:11] <rue_house> hmm, I wonder if travel would be much more than $2000
[02:04:16] <rue_house> have to dig on that one
[02:04:45] <rue_house> :) maybe I could package myself as a return to sender delivery
[02:04:55] <rue_house> no, 45 days travel back wouldn't be good
[02:05:23] <rue_house> well, the idea of having someone to meet there would help a LOT
[05:48:30] <Snert> arent the polar ice caps composed of fresh water?
[05:48:46] <Snert> not salt water? salt water doesn't freeze, right?
[05:49:37] <Snert> so by measuring ocean salinity....we should be able to determine how much icecap has melted.
[05:50:05] <Snert> because fresh melt water from the icecaps will dilute ocean salinity.
[05:57:22] <Snert> what's wrong with that logic.
[06:07:14] <malcom2073> Snert: Salt water freezes, just at a colder temp than fresh
[06:19:54] <deshipu> also, there are lots of other factors that affect water salinity
[06:20:06] <deshipu> like the whales constantly jerking off
[06:20:29] <deshipu> the bastards
[06:22:13] <Snert> still, a decrease in salinity should indicate polar cap melting I'd think.
[06:23:12] <Snert> but then the ocean currents may not mix up the waters very well I suppose.
[06:27:28] <deshipu> salinity mostly depends on the temperature
[06:28:05] <deshipu> so yeah, there is a correlation of sorts
[06:28:12] <deshipu> but it's complex
[06:28:30] <Snert> I know we take blue glacier ice and put it in our drinks and my rum&coke doesn't get salty.
[06:29:09] <Snert> more factors affecting the situation than I know I guess.
[06:29:25] <deshipu> it's always best to measure the thing directly
[06:29:40] <deshipu> like the area of it, and its thickness
[06:30:34] <Snert> yea directly does win. the satellite pics mostly must be used to measure it.
[06:31:02] <deshipu> also radar data from the satellites
[06:31:53] <Snert> you're right, there is a correlation but so many other factors muddy up the data.
[06:32:55] <Snert> so much for my arduino measure the ocean idea.
[06:38:10] <deshipu> it's still useful to know the salinity of water in a particular area
[06:38:23] <deshipu> if only to see how that affects the local fauna and flora
[06:39:06] <deshipu> sometimes it can tell you about changes in the currents, and predict weather changes
[06:54:55] <SpeedEvil> http://aquarius.nasa.gov/
[06:55:12] <SpeedEvil> http://aquarius.umaine.edu/cgi/news_more.htm?id=54
[06:55:22] <SpeedEvil> [18-Nov-16] The PO.DAAC is pleased to announce the availability of the version 2.0 SMAP Sea Surface Salinity (SSS) data from Remote Sensing System
[06:55:36] <SpeedEvil> Both are global in extent and provided at a 0.25° x 0.25° grid.
[07:25:21] <Snert> such detail. no point in trying to reinvent the wheel