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[00:09:14] <justanotheruser> ^
[00:09:16] <justanotheruser> to death
[00:28:07] <justanotheruser> I'll sell it to military contractors fighting frat bros
[00:53:31] <jak_o_shadows> argh. I just put on a 4 connector instead of 4 individuals
[00:55:01] <z64555> If that's a dupont-style housing, I feel you pain
[00:55:29] <jak_o_shadows> Yeah, dupont style
[00:55:42] <jak_o_shadows> You can pry the locking tabs back up, but it ruins the connector
[00:55:57] <z64555> well, not ruin, just won't be as secure
[00:56:30] <jak_o_shadows> THe way I did it ruined it:D
[00:56:48] <z64555> if you push down on the tabs after you've seated the connector, you can yank back on the connector can have the tabs jam into it
[01:49:45] <Anniepoo> 8cD I remain appreciative of whoever it was who taught me to properly assemble dupont connectors
[01:50:14] <Anniepoo> (somebody on this channel. Veverak maybe? z?)
[02:04:27] <z64555> Don't think it was me, I did mine using a pair of pliers. Proper way is to use the crimp tool
[02:06:06] <z64555> 1:35:47 AM - z64555: Don't think it was me, I did mine using a pair of pliers. Proper way is to use the crimp tool
[02:07:25] <z64555> Although I do know that if you intend to solder them, finish crimping them first. Heat up the connector and the wire by touching the iron on the rear-most tabs
[02:08:11] <z64555> then apply solder to the wire that's crimped in the connector, as close to the iron that you can
[02:08:38] <z64555> make sure that you let the wire and connector cook a bit before doing so
[02:09:39] <z64555> and that you apply just enough solder for the wire to bond to the sides of the connector. Don't want a whole lot going into the cavity
[02:11:05] <theBear> i always felt that "filling" the cavity at that stage isn't bad, but that solder making it past the conductey-crimp area into the strain-relieving bit, or even worse up the conductors past the strain-relief has to be a bad thing
[02:12:10] <theBear> any gaps within the cavity in the conductey-crimp area are effectively just making some of the conductors less useful/conductey i figure
[02:14:25] <z64555> well I mean for female connectors, the cavity is the bit where it plugs into the header
[02:15:13] <z64555> not the area between the conntion tabs and the strain relieve tabs
[02:16:20] <z64555> although, tbh, with the gauge wire that I have, the strain relief tabs are secondary connection tabs
[02:16:43] <theBear> oh sorry, in that case i agree :-)
[02:17:33] <z64555> it's alright, there isn't exactly a standard of what to call out sections on these things. :)
[02:17:50] <z64555> s/out/the
[02:18:24] <theBear> i been car spade/giant-boxey-fuse shopping thisafternoon, a world of weird shape and sized bits and pieces at stores where the staff don't have the remotest idea about any of these things ... as you can imagine i got maximum-possible-termination-awesomeness on the mind :-)
[02:20:04] <theBear> but i'm a happy boy, i got my giant boxey fuse that'll fit into the stock fusebox/GIANT busbar like it was sposed to be there, and silly thick cables and spades/etc that we can anti-derate to do what they sposed to do thru understanding and sheer awesomeness <grin>
[02:21:13] <theBear> seems there's some massive car thing, called i dunno, ICBM or somethign like that <grin> and i guess my car isn't fitted with an ICBM, so i'm pretty pleased
[02:22:12] <theBear> probly something you sposed to have if yer live in germany or russia perhaps <biggrin>
[02:22:52] <z64555> it would be a sight indeed if your car was outfitted with an Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile
[02:23:26] <deshipu> http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/xl/missile-balloons-for-your-car-xl.jpg
[02:23:51] <theBear> yeah, i figure it's like having a fire-extinguisher and those reflectey triangles etc, the authorities just don't care about it over here ;-)
[02:24:43] <theBear> hehe, i forgot bout that one.... but it sure is a thousand times cooler than hanging prosthetic testicles off yer towball... that's how i feel anyway
[02:25:11] <deshipu> you must leave your house pretty rarely
[02:25:58] <theBear> there's no denying it.... being legally crippled and living on a fixed pension seems to have that effect
[02:26:16] <deshipu> join the army, they said, you'll see the world, they said
[02:26:33] <z64555> he was fine, until he took an arrow to the knee
[02:28:46] <theBear> meh, they're too picky anyway... 'sif a little trouble identifying some colours messes with yer fine motor-skills or wiring up electricals... the govt/authorities seem to have no problem with me doing it on all kinds of things, including those in public places and schools and such... silly army, they're missing out on 7 different kinds of awesome
[02:29:49] <theBear> maybe they're worried i'd lose my uniform all the time... i think they're kinda green-themed, hard to be entirely sure tho <grin>
[02:52:31] <z64555> Glass tube automotive fuses... where designed by the Society of Fuse Engineers???
[02:53:31] <deshipu> where?
[02:54:05] <z64555> on wikipedia, their article for Fuses (automotive)
[02:54:12] <z64555> I just closed the tab, sorry
[02:54:36] <z64555> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuse_(automotive)#Glass_tube_type
[02:55:08] <deshipu> that's what the barman said
[02:59:42] <theBear> these ain't glass tubes, outside of those excessively shiny massive gold-plated-everything err, 3ag? 5ag? you know, size of your little finger fuses that are popular among car-hifi ricer types, i can't think of seeing any glass fuses in any cars of any age, then again, i ain't exactly a car expert, but ya know, i seen more than a few with the lid open
[03:00:34] <theBear> these are more like rectangle plastic boxes with spade holes at one end and a big fat fusible link, aka giant fuse-wire, inside the box between the two spade holes
[03:01:34] <deshipu> I've see quite a few of those here as a kid
[03:01:39] <deshipu> seen*
[03:02:11] <deshipu> I guess it depens on the brand of the car
[03:05:14] <theBear> something like
https://motogurumag.com/i/2000-toyota-celica-fuse-box-diagram-TQeBVaZ.jpg ... maybe exactly like the circled spot... i do know that there are type 1 and type 2 err, "mini-female auto fuse" or wtf these ones are called, and one is 2mm bigger in one dimension, ya know, to make things easier
[03:05:37] <deshipu> never seen anything like that in a car
[03:06:47] <theBear> my icbm hole is currently like the same-size hole down and right from the circle there, with a pair of 10a mini-blades eitehr side of it, the single spade that is populated goes down to a big spade busbar that connects directly to the HUGE battery lead/feed, so i slip my new spade-with-notch up the empty side and slide in my giant rectangle here, bing bang bong
[03:07:12] <deshipu> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1AO.lKpXXXXb6XXXXq6xXFXXXb/DC32V-Tube-Multiple-Fuse-Holder-8-Way-Car-Auto-Circuit-Fuse-Box-Holder-AGC-JSO-Waterproof.jpg
[03:07:58] <theBear> neither had i, or the guy at the auto-spares place, even tho they had a few of them on the shelf (oh, they come in both female AND male, and the type 1/2 2mm different size in one dimension versions, and then a larger size with the same name minus the "mini" , my car only has one that big, it's 100a, hmm, maybe that feeds the rest of the busbar, but you get the idea
[03:11:00] <theBear> hmm, that looks like standard 30mmx1/4" or wtf they are called, you know, bigger-than-20x5mm domestic stuff fuses, or maybe the next size of cartoonish big cylindrical ones that i forget the ?AG name of and mentioned earlier.... tho seeing that pic of a whole row of them, i feel like OLD cars mighta had them instead of blades, ones i ain't needed to see the fuse-dept of since i was a kid.... meh,
[03:11:00] <theBear> either way, there ain't anything like that in either the batt-end or the in-dash hidden fusebox in my '03 (pretty darned "new" in my experience/car-mechanickery) toyota
[03:11:37] <theBear> mine is actually VERY similar to the one i linked a minute ago, but arranged in more of a long and thin kinda pattern
[03:13:19] <theBear> for reference the big non-transparent ones in that same link up the top-right are what seem to be fairly standard form/pin-pattern (again spades it seems, but in a very incompatible pattern to avoid idiots no-doubt) for relays, you know, so yer tiny controls can crank the starter or flip the highbeams on and off without yer dash melting
[03:15:06] <theBear> i just found a hole that i was sure from obvious feed-wire-sizes and/or fuse-purpose-diagrams was bigger than my fuse size, and was currently unused, and that big weird rectangle was what i ended up with
[03:16:48] <theBear> like i said, familiar simple concepts (make sure fuse blows before wire burns, repeat until you get to the load) but unfamiliar alien car-specific shapes and connections
[03:20:48] <theBear> but i did finally findout where the old "Coventry's" bits and pieces (ya know, kinda like a specialist nuts+bolts supplier that will sell to public, but don't exactly advertise and encourage fools to come in,) store moved to, probly been 10 or 15 years since they moved, but i always sent other people to get my bits and pieces back when i had a real job... turns out that all but the oldest people only
[03:20:48] <theBear> know them as "Cov's" now, which to be fair is the only name they have on the shopfront/paperwork/sign, and that they have more than a few car-related bits and pieces now, such as my tiny yet very hard to track down couple of items
[05:15:01] <jak_o_shadows> theBear, navy wears grey :D
[05:15:21] <jak_o_shadows> On the other hand, boats
[06:03:08] <theBear> hmmm, do we even have a navy ? i spose we should... we got an assload of coast and water attached to us... meh, i'm not sure i'm built for that kinda service anyway... i do take well to strictly defined hierachies and rule systems, but i don't take well to accepting commands or even requests that don't strike me as particularly awesome, no sir
[10:38:52] <robopal> https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/when-the-heat-is-on-this-robot-sweats-to-cool-down
[10:49:40] <theBear> hmmm, how is it with hanging around kitchens ?
[11:08:18] <z64555> theBear: sounds like you're leadership material. :P
[11:10:36] <theBear> heh, like anything i have unusual strengths in, making me a leader has both powerful pro's AND con's.... you'd wanna know what you were doing putting me in charge of well, just about anything i can think of right now
[11:11:59] <z64555> they do have crews of machinists
[11:21:11] <theBear> oh, i see, you remember what i said hours and hours ago... maybe, but ya know, strict rules on stuff like seeing colours properly and not being so effed in the rear section, and paralysisized in the related lower sections that yer legally considered crippled and completely unfit to work, even a tiny bit, and these days i got both of them fer the duration, not to mention decades of fondness for any
[11:21:11] <theBear> substance that can alter minds in such a way as to make the things you percieve all around you remotely tolerable, notable favourites including alcahol and anything generally considered as "psychadelic", also i suspect they frown on confirmed mental/inherantly-faulted-brain-chemistry rooted kinda "illnesses", specially those confirmed on 2 or more far apart sides of a continent this size <grin>
[11:21:12] <theBear> fortunately these are all things that theBear understands are integral to the rich, if somewhat worn tapestry, that is theBear, the legends, the mythology, the music, the facts, you know ----> theBear
[11:21:24] * theBear smiles
[11:21:30] <theBear> ahh, it's nice when you can entertain yourself
[11:27:23] <z64555> could open a store featuring kookoo clocks. :)
[11:29:03] <theBear> hmmm, certainly sounds smart from here
[20:12:07] <justanotheruser> it seems the GT2 belts aren't very strong
[20:17:54] <malcom2073> in comparison to... metal chain?
[20:18:49] <orlock> Depends on the sort of metal
[20:19:05] <malcom2073> My knee mill uses GT2 belts, something like 20lbs of pull force on the belt under normal operation
[20:22:21] <justanotheruser> if I have an arm with 100Nm of torque and the sprocket driving it is 50mm, how much pull is that
[20:24:00] <justanotheruser> I'm probably going to end up using some AT10 belt
[20:24:10] <malcom2073> 100Nm is slightly less than half a ton, that's a pretty damn big arm?
[20:24:47] <justanotheruser> huh?
[20:24:53] <malcom2073> oh inch
[20:24:53] <malcom2073> hah
[20:25:00] <justanotheruser> inch?
[20:25:18] <justanotheruser> 100Nm could be 10lbs 10ft away
[20:25:24] <justanotheruser> approximately
[20:25:25] <malcom2073> Just to mix units, That's still 400lbs at 50mm
[20:25:48] <justanotheruser> oh right
[20:26:03] * justanotheruser isn't very smart right now
[20:27:33] <theBear> you trying to tell me that my bed is covered in 1000's of Nm's of unsorted clean washing and has probably 10's of KNm's worth of various laptops and broken/missing-bits video cameras leaning on and around it ? cos that sounds kinda heavy duty
[20:28:06] <malcom2073> theBear: Depends on where your pivot point is :-P
[20:28:57] <justanotheruser> theBear: the planet we live on can be modeled as a fulcrum and pivot
[20:29:06] <justanotheruser> try billions of Nms of unsorted clean washing
[20:31:18] <justanotheruser> seems its 7k lb/in rated
[20:32:28] <theBear> i think it's part of the mechanism under the seat.... wherever the lever that you use to manually control a landing, or can shift like a gear-lever to unlock the diff
[20:32:40] <theBear> err, ends... wherever that lever ends
[20:52:52] <rue_house> 1 xor 1 is 0, right?
[20:53:28] <rue_house> must be
[20:53:46] <rue_house> cause you xor a register with itself to zero it faster than loading 0 on an x86
[21:00:21] <peepsalot> learn your logic tables
[21:01:06] <peepsalot> there's only 4 possibilties for boolean logic on 2 operands, its not much to memorize.
[21:24:28] <justanotheruser> peepsalot: 4^2 dawg
[21:24:33] <justanotheruser> 16
[21:27:09] <peepsalot> justanotheruser, look up a truth table for XOR and tell me how many rows of data you see
[22:00:04] <justanotheruser> peepsalot: why?
[22:00:50] <peepsalot> because you are wrong
[22:01:01] <justanotheruser> you think there aren't 16 possible logic gates?
[22:01:23] <peepsalot> that's not what i was saying
[22:01:40] <justanotheruser> yes it is
[22:01:46] <z64555> no, it's not
[22:01:48] <justanotheruser> I said there are 16 2 input logic gates
[22:01:55] <justanotheruser> you said "you are wrong"
[22:02:02] <justanotheruser> therefore you are saying there aren't 16 2 input logic gates
[22:02:34] <z64555> For a given boolean operation, (which is on binary bits) there are 4 possible outcomes
[22:02:43] <z64555> because there are 4 possible inputs
[22:02:50] <justanotheruser> and there are 16 possible logic gates you can memorize
[22:02:55] <z64555> 00, 01, 10, 11
[22:03:15] <z64555> uh. no. just. no.
[22:03:53] <z64555> There's AND, OR, NOT, and XOR
[22:04:18] <justanotheruser> xnor, A imply B, etc
[22:04:29] <z64555> there is also NAND and NOR, and XNOR
[22:04:37] <justanotheruser> 00 has 2 possible outcomes, 01 has 2, 10 has 2, 11 has 2
[22:04:41] <justanotheruser> 2*2*2*2
[22:04:57] <z64555> wth are you on about?
[22:05:03] <justanotheruser> http://www.paleotechnologist.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/periodic_table_of_two_input_gates.jpg
[22:05:23] <justanotheruser> z64555: you claiming there are only 4 possible logic gates
[22:05:32] <z64555> no
[22:05:40] <z64555> not possible "logic gates" but outcomes
[22:06:16] <justanotheruser> oh sorry, I only have to explain the not gate to you
[22:06:38] <z64555> no, you're still not on the same frequency as us
[22:06:46] <justanotheruser> he said there are not 16 possible logic gates, he said that is not what he was saying, I said it was, you said no its not
[22:06:57] <justanotheruser> nah, I think it's the other way around friend :)
[22:07:19] <justanotheruser> z64555: what are you building
[22:07:32] <peepsalot> justanotheruser, you seem very confused about what you and others have said, i recommend working on reading comprehension
[22:07:36] <z64555> I think we're all confused. lol
[22:07:44] <justanotheruser> peepsalot: I have no confusion
[22:07:56] <peepsalot> justanotheruser> I said there are 16 2 input logic gates
[22:08:01] <justanotheruser> peepsalot: I said there were 16 ypossible logic gates, you said I was wrong, there isn't much room for interpretation
[22:08:06] <peepsalot> actually you never said that, you just spouted off some numbers
[22:08:25] <theBear> you said "4^2 dawg"
[22:08:34] <justanotheruser> yes, the obvious implication, since we were talking about logic gate memorization, was that I was saying there are 16 possible logic gates
[22:08:38] <justanotheruser> theBear: same thing bruh
[22:08:51] <z64555> it is not the same thing. lol
[22:08:57] <justanotheruser> z64555: what are you working on
[22:09:05] <justanotheruser> theBear: how is the back doing
[22:09:13] <z64555> I'm currently working on trying to figure out what you are trying to tell us
[22:09:16] <z64555> :)
[22:09:48] <theBear> one gains more from admitting fault than trying to deny it, and pfft, i dunno, it been 30C+ most of this week and i been drinking
[22:10:18] <peepsalot> justanotheruser, the problem is you are arguing an entirely different point than the one I was originally making
[22:10:40] <justanotheruser> not denying fault, I was just pointing something out that he claims I wasn't saying
[22:15:20] <theBear> just stop talking about it, and everything magically becomes fine again, trust me, i do it all the time
[22:15:31] <justanotheruser> theBear: how is the back
[22:16:47] <theBear> refer to my previous answer :)
[22:17:09] <theBear> hmm, where is the previous answer
[22:17:24] <justanotheruser> 30C+?
[22:17:32] <theBear> oh yeah, there it is
[22:18:01] <theBear> it's the way that all the not-stupid countries measure ambient and room and oven temperatures, probly some other things too
[22:18:04] <theBear> :)
[22:18:20] <justanotheruser> theBear: but why is your back so hot
[22:18:25] <justanotheruser> or cold
[22:18:27] <justanotheruser> IDK
[22:18:36] <justanotheruser> whatever it is, why are you measuring your backs health in temperature
[22:18:47] <justanotheruser> 86f, that seems normal...
[22:19:02] <theBear> crazy foo' .... the weather is that amount of hotness
[22:19:20] <theBear> i don't know how hot my back is, tho i heard it's pretty special
[22:19:25] * z64555 looks at his thermometer, which is conveniently graded in both Farenheit and Celsius
[22:19:38] <z64555> Ah, a nice comfy temperature
[22:20:06] <z64555> now if it were 32C+ then it would be not-so-comfy
[22:20:39] <theBear> meh, not unacceptable, but warm weather, specially the first few days each year, tend to trigger whatever faulty chemistry it takes to make me clinically manic
[22:21:14] <z64555> Have you been drinking enough water and keeping a good electrolyte balance?
[22:21:32] <z64555> might have to check that voltaic pile.
[22:23:28] <z64555> anyway
[22:23:37] <z64555> justanotheruser: I am currently playing with hexagons
[22:26:45] <theBear> i dunno, probly better than most, but when yer young and crippled and a few years into the kinda pain that makes normal people cry, well, such things just don't feel so important to pay attention too
[22:31:12] <z64555> it's important enough to make you feel less crappy
[22:38:15] <theBear> quite the opposite, of course if my stupid brain didn't violently object to them, i should/would be on antidepressants for life, but it certainly does violently object to them, BUT seems fond of alcahol and psychadelics, at least the first of which one might argue is an antidepressant, and i mean the medical definition, not the definition of those 2 words turned into one sentencve
[22:40:13] <theBear> i'm frighteningly content these days, and haven't been violent or even hurt people in ways my sociopathic nature will never fully appreciate, for MANY years now... i'm an upstanding member of my community in many ways.... i think i gettin the formula pretty darned right somehow
[22:40:40] <orlock> i dressed up as _santa_ today
[22:40:50] <orlock> and all it took was somebody asking
[22:41:24] <z64555> fat santa or buff santa
[22:41:41] <orlock> skinny fat it geek santa with a beer pot
[22:44:43] <z64555> justanotheruser: this is what I've been working on:
https://github.com/z64555/HexGrid
[22:44:54] <z64555> Just uh, don't stare at it too closely. You'll scare the poor thing
[22:45:01] <justanotheruser> why
[22:45:12] <z64555> (joking)
[22:45:56] <z64555> I had an idea about hexagonal meshes, and wanted to see if I could make a procedural generation of a terrain map with them
[22:46:27] <z64555> Closest example would be Minecraft. It has "chunks" which are subdivided into cubes
[22:47:01] <orlock> do you remember Voxels?
[22:47:15] <z64555> Except with the way that I am thinking, the chunks could be at varying detail levels. Highest detail would be nearest the viewer and lowest detail would be furthest away
[22:47:23] <z64555> orlock: Yes, I do. they're an interesting thing
[22:47:49] <orlock> there was that game that used them - probably more, but i only remember one
[22:48:00] <z64555> a Novalogic game?
[22:48:07] <orlock> Rings a bell
[22:48:12] <z64555> Commanche?
[22:48:16] <orlock> Comanche: Maximum Overkill
[22:48:19] <orlock> yeah
[22:48:21] <z64555> yup
[22:48:29] <orlock> fuck thats going back a bit now
[22:48:41] <orlock> over 20 years
[22:49:04] <z64555> I think that was their first generation voxel engine
[22:50:00] <z64555> They handled LOD'ing by limiting the number of voxels to render, depending on the distance from the viewer
[22:50:11] <orlock> LOD?
[22:50:16] <z64555> Level Of Detail
[22:51:08] <z64555> in 3D rendering, a model has several LOD's they can switch between, with a different complexity
[22:51:26] <z64555> Simpler LOD's are rendered in the far distances, and more complex in the near distances
[22:52:01] <z64555> This is to save computation time within the GPU, since the general theory is that the eye doesn't recognize as much detail of objects the further away they are
[22:53:12] <z64555> going back to voxels, IIRC they drew the voxels that were furthest away first, and then progressively drew the closer voxels on top of them
[22:55:21] <z64555> I think the smallest voxels they were able to get were, hm. about a centimeter wide?
[22:57:06] <z64555> They later abandoned voxels in favor of a fractal terrain mesh
[22:57:43] <z64555> their excuse being "voxels can't be accelerated," whatever that meant
[22:59:18] <z64555> orlock: I hope I didn't bore you. :)
[23:00:14] <orlock> no - been intereted in that sort of stuff for a ong time
[23:00:29] <theBear> pfft, triangles are 2 dimensional and don't got any wheels... if yer can accelerate a few million of them, you can accelerate anything
[23:03:31] <justanotheruser> what is the best way to mount a timing belt pulley to a motor
[23:03:33] <justanotheruser> directly?
[23:03:54] <orlock> grub screw usually
[23:05:05] <justanotheruser> ok, but if I can't find at AT10 belt pulley on mcmaster for a 20mm shaft, what should I do, shaft coupling that has two different shaft dia?
[23:06:07] <theBear> 20mm shaft ? this some kinda multi-kW motor ?
[23:06:39] <justanotheruser> no, 0.6
[23:07:06] <theBear> hmmmmm.... mmmk, i can cope with that
[23:07:47] <justanotheruser> so how do I mount it
[23:08:06] <orlock> grub screw
[23:08:40] <justanotheruser> orlock: doesn't that necessitate that the pulley hub diameter is the same as my shaft
[23:08:55] <orlock> buy the right parts then
[23:09:10] <justanotheruser> see scrollback...
[23:09:12] <orlock> or if you are going to half ass half of it
[23:09:19] <orlock> just half-ass the whole thing and cover it in JB weld
[23:10:08] <justanotheruser> I may have to give up on my timing belt pulley design D:
[23:10:17] <z64555> theBear: No, the voxels were rendered as point-squares
[23:11:59] <z64555> justanotheruser: See if you can find a bushing you can modify
[23:12:08] <z64555> a bushing, or a pipe
[23:12:49] <z64555> You'd cut into it to leave room for the grub screw (also known as a set screw) to engage the shaft directly
[23:16:43] <justanotheruser> it looks like I already have a bushing
https://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/Nema34-Planetary-Reduction-Ratio-1-16-planet-gearbox-86mm-motor-speed-reducer-high-accuracy-type-6/32763245555.html
[23:16:52] <justanotheruser> don't see them specifying
[23:43:00] <rue_shop3> theBear, how fast can someone repeatedly push a button? 20Hz?
[23:43:02] <rue_shop3> 30?
[23:43:05] <rue_shop3> na, 10?
[23:47:23] <rue_shop3> yay, the cnc pendant works .. itself...
[23:47:25] <theBear> doubt it, even if yer get a muscle-oscillation going on, maybe two fingers at once if it a huge button, mmm, maybe 10, i got no concept of time these days, and i gotta go
[23:47:37] <rue_shop3> it just needs a rs232 buffer and a 5V regulator
[23:48:08] <rue_shop3> if you have no concept of time, leaving later is the same as leaving now
[23:48:50] <rue_shop3> for that matter, you could done it yesterday when you get around to it
[23:49:22] <Triffid_Hunter> I'm still waiting for someone to make a mechanical button with an opto-interruptor inside for zero contact bounce
[23:49:51] <rue_shop3> Triffid_Hunter, I have some paper mill equipt that uses HALL sensors and buttons on springs with magnets in them
[23:50:16] <rue_shop3> Triffid_Hunter, do you ahve a 3d printer? I can make you a model of the button
[23:50:22] <rue_shop3> wtf, your Triffid_Hunter
[23:50:29] <rue_shop3> of course you have a printer
[23:50:33] <Triffid_Hunter> lol!
[23:50:40] <rue_shop3> want me to model you one of the buttons?
[23:50:47] <Triffid_Hunter> naw I can imagine, hall is neat too
[23:51:01] <rue_shop3> wear free, bounce free
[23:51:21] <rue_shop3> they made the button rectangular
[23:51:25] <rue_shop3> [ ]
[23:51:42] <Triffid_Hunter> well anything with a moving part is gonna have some wear, but it won't affect the electrics until the mechanicals fail completely
[23:51:47] <rue_shop3> its got a hollow in to fit over the hall, with a magnet glued to the inside of the hole
[23:52:18] <rue_shop3> there is a 'drill out' for a spring to hold it up from the hall
[23:52:29] <rue_shop3> you can use halls from muffin fans
[23:52:41] <rue_shop3> if you want I could send you 20 or 30 muffin fans...
[23:52:47] <rue_shop3> various states of life...
[23:53:06] <rue_shop3> they have schmitt with totem pole drivers
[23:53:26] <Triffid_Hunter> lol no thanks, I'm in HuaQiang Bei, Shenzhen, I'm sure I could find a sackful of hall sensors downstairs in the next hour or two if I wanted :P
[23:53:53] <rue_shop3> shenzhen... COOL... most of the stuff I'm ordering is from there
[23:53:55] <rue_shop3> whats it like
[23:54:12] <rue_shop3> is it like, a huge row of stores full of components?
[23:54:16] <rue_shop3> and clothes...?
[23:54:51] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: let's see, rows? try multiple city blocks of multi-storey buildings filled wall to wall on every floor with shops, most of them about 6-8m² in size
[23:54:58] <Triffid_Hunter> all selling various components
[23:55:10] * rue_shop3 drools
[23:55:20] <rue_shop3> are the prices cheaper than on aliexpress?
[23:55:35] <Triffid_Hunter> also various modules and consumer goods too.. arduinos, sonars, etc and things like faux pros, drones, dashcams, walkie talkies, etc etc
[23:55:44] * hephlant considers moving
[23:55:50] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: prices are whatever you can negotiate, nothing has a marked price
[23:56:03] * hephlant starts packing
[23:56:03] <rue_shop3> how long you there?
[23:56:35] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: been here almost 18 months, planning to stay as long as this place is cool
[23:56:56] <rue_shop3> ? weren't you in USA?
[23:57:32] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: I was in california in november last year, australia for a bit in april.. I get around ;)
[23:57:47] <rue_shop3> ? coder?
[23:59:22] <Triffid_Hunter> rue_shop3: making
https://www.facebook.com/JuukInc/videos/ , and I've been working on some fun stuff for
http://lumencache.com lately too
