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[00:18:52] <rue_house> ah bedtime
[01:27:53] <rue_bed> tommorw I'll hook up the 2803 drivers for the fet boards
[01:37:41] <rue_house> Iwas up till 2:30am last night, I dont want to go to sleep now
[07:56:27] <justan0theruser> is there a table showing torque deflection by material? specifically interested in 1045 carbon steel
[07:56:51] <deshipu> justan0theruser: I would ask Wolfram Alpha...
[07:58:30] <justan0theruser> I see lots of properties, but not torque deflection
[07:58:53] <deshipu> no idea what that is, so can't help you there
[07:59:39] <justan0theruser> ok thanks anyways
[08:24:09] <SpeedEvil> 'torque deflection' - if you mean response to rotational forces in shafts - is going to vary heavily depending on section
[08:24:32] <SpeedEvil> it's not a number.
[14:01:19] <rue_house> I think that linux, during install should nonally ask wwhat time zone your in, but what planet your on
[14:04:49] <anniepoo_> @mbrumlow parts arrived
[14:10:49] <rue_shop3> I suppose if your not on earth, you just use GMT
[14:23:06] <anniepoo_> https://xkcd.com/713/
[14:53:32] <deshipu> anniepoo_: what parts?
[14:54:17] <deshipu> "I was initially in favor of the space exploration and colonization projects, until I realized what that would do to out time and data software libraries."
[14:54:29] <deshipu> our*
[15:12:30] <mrdata> deshipu, what would that do?
[15:13:14] <mrdata> you'd need apis that are stable for decades
[15:13:31] <mrdata> thats almost unheard of
[15:14:15] <mrdata> or really good change control and testing
[15:14:23] <mrdata> but these are good things
[15:18:03] <anniepoo_> I'm copying mbrumlow's web bot
[15:18:31] <anniepoo_> I figured I could do that a lot quicker than designing my own, and I'm interested in stuff beyond where he's gotten to, so why not
[15:44:08] <deshipu> mrdata: think timezones
[15:44:26] <deshipu> mrdata: now think time and date keeping in places that have different year length
[15:44:41] <deshipu> anniepoo_: sounds good
[15:46:20] <deshipu> not to mention day length
[15:46:31] <deshipu> and multiple moons to measure months
[15:52:11] <Mindstorm8191> I think I once found a website devoted to a martian calendar design
[15:52:48] <Mindstorm8191> it had 12 months in a year, but the june/july months were something like over 100 days each
[15:56:43] <deshipu> now, consider that each country has their own base, and came up with their own calendar, of course
[15:57:00] <deshipu> plus there are arbiting stations
[15:59:41] <Mindstorm8191> did you know, before clocks became more accurate, the US didn't have time zones. each city had its own clock & time, based on high noon at that location
[16:06:33] <rue_shop3> that makes sense
[16:06:39] <rue_shop3> the clock on the tower
[16:06:46] <rue_shop3> trimmed with the coins
[16:19:34] <SorcererX> Mindstorm8191: train time tables used to be fun to read :P
[16:33:59] <deshipu> in fact, universal time was lobbied for by the train companies
[16:34:26] <deshipu> there were actually revolts against it in some countries
[16:45:36] <rue_shop3> people revolt against any kinda change
[16:47:24] <rue_shop3> wtf
[16:47:29] <rue_shop3> the tank temp just dropped to 0
[16:48:19] <orlock> Damn
[16:48:26] <orlock> i hope thats Celcius and not Kelvin
[16:50:48] <rue_shop3> hah
[16:51:34] <rue_shop3> 1sample /min...
[16:51:38] * rue_shop3 waits for more data
[18:30:40] <justan0theruser> anniepoo: you suggested using roll pins to keep the load in the axle in place, but what if I key an axle with a key slot and put a key where the beam is?
[18:42:04] <anniepoo_> hi
[18:42:21] <anniepoo_> sure, a key would work fine.
[18:42:35] <anniepoo_> you still need a setscrew or someting to keep it slipping
[18:43:02] <anniepoo_> I was assuming somebody who had to borrow a drill press didn't have a broach and a milling machine
[18:43:18] <anniepoo_> which are the normal tools for putting in a key
[18:46:08] * SpeedEvil ponders a key plane.
[18:50:51] <justan0theruser> hmm, to keep it from slipping, maybe just some adhesive
[18:53:00] <anniepoo_> as I recall, tghis is pretty heavily loaded
[18:53:08] <anniepoo_> 80 ft lbs torque or something
[19:00:39] <anniepoo_> how do you intend to make a keyway?
[19:05:08] <rue_shop3> hahaha
[19:05:15] <anniepoo_> ??
[19:05:27] <rue_shop3> your gonna glue it while I'm telling you 20mm metal will bend and sheer
[19:06:12] <anniepoo_> =8cO 20mm! That's a tank!
[19:06:36] <rue_shop3> it was more than 80 foot/lbs iirc
[19:06:38] <rue_shop3> lots more
[19:07:33] <anniepoo_> kk, I recall it as that, and remember looking up rollpin specs
[19:07:56] <rue_shop3> we will see
[19:08:07] <anniepoo_> dunno. I think we need more info
[19:08:12] <rue_shop3> I"m kinda betting justan0theruser never gets around to assembling anything
[19:08:21] <anniepoo_> 8cD My tank treads are coming along
[19:08:52] <rue_shop3> 20lbs on the end of a 48" arm, + arm weight... iirc
[19:09:07] <rue_shop3> did you do the rov with the realtime streaming?
[19:09:33] <anniepoo_> no
[19:09:41] <rue_shop3> oh
[19:09:47] <anniepoo_> mbrumlow had one on the other night
[19:09:58] <rue_shop3> running around work?
[19:10:00] <anniepoo_> a treaded bot with camera, streaming live
[19:10:00] <anniepoo_> yes
[19:10:14] <anniepoo_> I'm duplicating his bot
[19:10:17] <rue_shop3> amazing javascript decoding the vid stream by pixel
[19:10:34] <rue_shop3> is there a pic of it?
[19:10:40] <anniepoo_> his bot?
[19:10:52] <rue_shop3> I dont think he even set us up with a mirror we could see the bot in
[19:10:52] <anniepoo_> there's a youtube video
[19:12:47] <rue_shop3> my force feedback controller is comming along
[19:12:54] <rue_shop3> I got the stupid pwm working last night
[19:13:09] <Tom_L> rue_shop3, what debian do you run?
[19:13:14] <rue_shop3> stable
[19:13:20] <rue_shop3> unstable dosn't work right now
[19:13:24] <Tom_L> ver?
[19:13:31] <rue_shop3> "stable"
[19:13:38] <Tom_L> 8?
[19:13:39] <rue_shop3> -.-
[19:13:47] <rue_shop3> just installing a new machine..
[19:14:13] <Tom_L> i just grabbed 8.6
[19:14:23] <Tom_L> was gonna upgrade my server
[19:14:31] <Tom_L> bad idea?
[19:15:21] <anniepoo_> hmm... I'm not finding the youtube for the bot I'm copying
[19:15:25] <rue_shop3> ffffffffffffffffff
[19:15:35] <rue_shop3> why the HELL is root login disabled for ssh
[19:15:37] <rue_shop3> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFf
[19:15:53] <orlock> because Ubuntu?
[19:16:08] <rue_shop3> this is debain
[19:16:17] <Tom_L> stable.
[19:16:25] <rue_shop3> tom stable is 8.6
[19:16:32] <Tom_L> thank you
[19:16:38] <Tom_L> that's what i was asking
[19:16:58] <rue_shop3> and it took me that long to get the answer
[19:16:59] <Tom_L> i hate the default desktop
[19:17:08] <Tom_L> how can i change that without reinstalling?
[19:17:37] <rue_shop3> set the debian apt sources to "stable" and apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[19:17:45] <Tom_L> it gives several on install but i left it default
[19:17:58] <Tom_L> do what?
[19:18:15] <Tom_L> on the server?
[19:18:36] <rue_shop3> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:18:48] <rue_shop3> deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main
[19:19:03] <Tom_L> will it screw up my webserver?
[19:19:03] <rue_shop3> for example, everywhere it says 'jessie' change to 'stable'
[19:19:11] <orlock> it may
[19:19:15] <rue_shop3> it'll screw up lots of things,
[19:19:29] <rue_shop3> never upgrade anything unless you have to because its not working
[19:19:34] <Tom_L> i'll do it on another machine first
[19:19:48] <Tom_L> i wanted to use a bot that requires python 3
[19:20:12] <rue_shop3> atp-get install python3
[19:20:22] <rue_shop3> it shouldn't trip much else on the system
[19:20:26] <Tom_L> best it can get is 2.6
[19:20:35] <rue_shop3> apt-get update
[19:20:41] <Tom_L> it's too old isn't it?
[19:20:57] <Tom_L> it's like 2.6 or something
[19:20:57] <rue_shop3> show my any line from your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[19:21:17] <Tom_L> hang on
[19:22:09] * rue_shop3 debates what to do
[19:22:31] <rue_shop3> my force feedback board has a challange
[19:22:35] <Tom_L> lenny
[19:22:36] <rue_shop3> I'm going to feed it 12V
[19:22:50] <rue_shop3> Tom_L, yea just change it to 'stable' everywhere is says lenny
[19:22:55] <rue_shop3> apt-get update
[19:23:09] <rue_shop3> then say apt-get install python3
[19:23:12] <Tom_L> lenny main
[19:23:13] <rue_shop3> LOOK CAREFULLY
[19:23:19] <rue_shop3> at what it says it will do
[19:23:36] <rue_shop3> IF if says its gonna upgrade libc6 BE CAUTIOUS
[19:23:50] <Tom_L> i think i'll set up another machine and get it working first
[19:23:57] <rue_shop3> if it says its gonna remove prettymuch anything, look at what its removing carefully
[19:24:12] <Tom_L> once it's working i can clone the drive can't I?
[19:24:13] <rue_shop3> this is pretty safe
[19:24:23] <rue_shop3> make a backup of the sources.list file now
[19:24:34] <rue_shop3> then edit all the 'lenny' to 'stable'
[19:24:42] <rue_shop3> cmon, do 'er now
[19:24:46] <Tom_L> i'm not gonna screw with the server
[19:24:52] <Tom_L> i don't have time to fix it if it breaks
[19:25:01] <rue_shop3> I'll tell you when were pulling the pin and need to not let go of the trigger
[19:25:07] <Tom_L> i'll take my time and get another one working first
[19:25:29] <rue_shop3> this wont break anything
[19:25:39] <rue_shop3> we can just test and see where its at
[19:26:16] <rue_shop3> this is what I love about helping you, you never listen
[19:26:26] <Tom_L> neither do you
[19:26:33] <rue_shop3> your out getting somone elses advise right now aren't you :)
[19:26:33] <Tom_L> or i would
[19:26:38] <Tom_L> nope
[19:26:43] * rue_shop3 chuckles and sits back
[19:26:50] <Tom_L> i told you i don't have time to fix the server if it breaks
[19:26:58] <Tom_L> i'll work on another machine as i have time
[19:27:02] <Tom_L> and get it working
[19:27:02] <rue_shop3> and we can do a test without breaking it
[19:27:24] <rue_shop3> we will just ask it how much of an upgrade would be needed
[19:27:30] <rue_shop3> for *just* python3
[19:28:01] <rue_shop3> if its too big an upgrade, we just decline, set the sources back and everyone forgets it happened
[19:28:05] <Tom_L> umm, i tried installing python 3 on ubuntu 10.04 and it was a no go too
[19:28:21] <Tom_L> and this debian is much older
[19:28:21] <rue_shop3> truuuust me, we can just ask
[19:28:37] <rue_shop3> most of the debian pacakges are min 5 years old
[19:28:47] <Tom_L> i don't need to ask, i'm rather confident it wouldn't install
[19:29:06] <Tom_L> i'd say that server is older than that
[19:29:56] <Tom_L> spent all evening fixing a door some jackass kicked in a while back
[19:30:24] <rue_shop3> remember, if you dont kill them, you have to deal with them sueing you
[19:30:34] <rue_shop3> killing them in self defence is muuuch cheaper
[19:30:38] <Tom_L> i discussed that with the cops already
[19:30:50] <Tom_L> if you're defending property that's a no no
[19:31:04] <Tom_L> if you're defending yourself or others it's ok as long as it's in your home
[19:31:11] <rue_shop3> yea.
[19:31:54] <Tom_L> took them 4 hrs to respond
[19:31:58] <rue_shop3> otherwise nails built into the door.
[19:32:07] <Tom_L> took 2 weeks for a detective to show up
[19:32:10] <rue_shop3> you mentioned
[19:32:23] <Tom_L> yeah i though about adding a bear trap by the door
[19:32:53] <rue_shop3> as long as you can kill them in such a way after as to claim self defence your ok
[19:33:50] <rue_shop3> symantics are the grey in thin grey lines
[19:34:08] <rue_shop3> and even thick ones
[19:35:27] <rue_shop3> if you throw someone a knife, just as you say 'catch' its what they will do, even if your holding a gun
[19:37:07] <rue_shop3> wow my cnc job *just* fit on the blank I cut
[19:38:51] <rue_shop3> anyhow, I have a problem with this force feedback controller
[19:39:14] <rue_shop3> the logic is 5V, the motors are 7V, and the supply is 12V (that I'm also using for fet bias)
[19:39:54] <rue_shop3> the 5v should be trivial, I have a tiny switching supply I can use
[19:40:12] <rue_shop3> the 7V is harder, 8 motors at 1A is 8A
[20:09:23] <rue_shop3> so, should the 7V be provided off-board
[20:23:46] <rue_house> today I made a bracket for mounting a vacuum cleaner motor to the sherline mill
[20:23:53] <rue_house> next I need a pulley
[20:58:09] <anniepoo_> rue, do you have access to a lathe?
[21:20:22] <rue_house> like the one in my shop or another one?
[21:22:22] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1040778.jpg
[21:24:41] <Mindstorm8191> that looks like a lathe to me
[21:26:33] <rue_shop3> technically, yes
[21:26:38] <rue_shop3> actaully yes too
[21:27:27] <codepython777> For a land vehicle - a 3-point contact design vs fixed rectangular frame with 4 wheels - are there pros/cons of these designs listed somewhere?
[21:28:16] <z64555> less likely to flip over, if the third wheel is leading
[21:28:39] <z64555> well, If you've got 1 wheel as steering in a trike, you're likely to flip over
[21:28:47] <z64555> maybe that's more understandable
[21:29:25] <codepython777> z64555: When i say 3-point contact, I'm still talking about a vehicle with 4 wheels on a rectagle - its just that the rectangle is not rigid and rotates on a "H" or "I" design.
[21:29:55] <z64555> ah, appolgies
[21:30:49] <z64555> Well, by doing a quick analysis of the H and I frame designs, I can say that the beam between the wheel pairs can act as a torsion bar
[21:31:25] <z64555> which may or may not be a good thing, depending on what the rest of your car looks like
[21:32:18] <z64555> H/I frames also take up less material, and thus can be lighter than the box frame
[21:33:34] <z64555> I'm unaware of any scientific papers that study this in depth, but they're probably out on the internets somewhere
[21:34:43] <codepython777> z64555: interesting. I'm not sure you save too much on weight, because you still have to design a payload to sit on all of the frames. So if the payload is heavy compared to the frame, it does not matter much.
[21:35:21] <codepython777> z64555: I see mostly people design fixed rectangular frames
[21:35:32] <z64555> if you have a heavy payload, you'd probably be going with a box frame for more strength
[21:36:02] <z64555> or a hybrid between the two designs
[21:37:57] <codepython777> z64555: is there a company that sells the base frame?
[21:38:06] <codepython777> something that one can use to make H or I designs easy?
[21:39:39] <z64555> just go to any ol' automotive machine shop and ask if they can fab something up for you
[21:42:24] <codepython777> z64555: where do you buy bearings from that can take a lot of weight?
[21:42:35] <codepython777> and are of desired sizes
[21:49:45] <anniepoo_> 8cD I've gotten as far as putting the treads together
[21:58:47] <codepython777> z64555: what are you upto ?
[22:09:25] <justan0theruser> rue_shop3: Why are you so negative
[22:10:11] <justan0theruser> anniepoo_: the keyway in already cut
[22:11:10] <anniepoo_> oh, cool
[22:11:17] <anniepoo_> in both the arm and the shaft?
[22:11:49] <anniepoo_> codepython - you can buy bearings on amazon
[22:11:57] <justan0theruser> anniepoo_: in the shaft
[22:12:05] <justan0theruser> https://www.mcmaster.com/#keyed-shafts/=15bygtr
[22:12:23] <anniepoo_> the arm's aluminum?
[22:12:39] <justan0theruser> the force is mostly in the direction perpendicular to where the key could slip
[22:12:53] <justan0theruser> it is
[22:13:10] <justan0theruser> though parallel force is worth considering
[22:13:10] <anniepoo_> hollow structural tubing or something?
[22:13:22] <anniepoo_> keys prevent rotation
[22:13:29] <rue_shop3> I'm not negitive, I'm 14605, and I'm sceptical
[22:13:31] <justan0theruser> yes, the keys prevent rotation
[22:13:34] <rue_shop3> with speeling problems
[22:13:46] <justan0theruser> you're in ny
[22:14:05] <anniepoo_> if it's structural tubing, you can probably cut the keyway with a file.
[22:14:12] <justan0theruser> structural tubing?
[22:14:25] <anniepoo_> is it hollow square tube or something?
[22:14:26] <justan0theruser> they key?
[22:14:32] <anniepoo_> the arm
[22:14:39] <justan0theruser> it's t-slotted framing
[22:14:48] <anniepoo_> ok
[22:14:48] <justan0theruser> aluminium
[22:14:58] <anniepoo_> Drill the hole for the shaft
[22:15:18] <anniepoo_> and then find a file thinner than the key
[22:15:36] <anniepoo_> clamp the arm well in a vise
[22:15:45] <anniepoo_> and you can make that keyway with a file
[22:16:15] <anniepoo_> the hardware store or amazon can sell you the key stock to make the actual key
[22:16:24] <rue_house> gonna sheer off any normal metal
[22:16:50] <anniepoo_> justa - how much load again? rue and I heard different values
[22:28:27] <justanotheruser> If someone on alibaba said they would cut a planetary gear to match my motors shaft, would you expect them to cut space for the gear as well?
[22:28:49] <justanotheruser> sorry, cut space for the shaft
[22:30:04] <codepython777> justanotheruser: do they do that for one piece?
[22:30:45] <justanotheruser> codepython777: what
[22:31:07] <justanotheruser> Dear Friend: Glad to meet you! Many thanks for your order. we will arrange the shipping soon. Could you please offer us your motor drawing? We can according to thie to make input shaft size. Looking forward to your reply. Best Regards.
[22:35:16] <justanotheruser> does this seem to imply that they should have cut a key?
[22:35:37] <justanotheruser> if not, is cutting the key slot myself hard?
[22:36:47] <rue_house> its not hard
[22:36:58] <rue_house> about 20 hours with a file should make a great keyway
[22:37:06] <justanotheruser> ok brb
[22:37:12] <z64555> it's aluminum, so more like 20 minutes
[22:37:30] <rue_house> oh, after all that about torque?
[22:37:38] <rue_house> oh its on the input of his gearbox?
[22:37:47] <justanotheruser> yes, input
[22:37:58] <rue_house> the gearbox was 4:1?
[22:38:14] <justanotheruser> 16:1
[22:38:30] <rue_house> hmm, alum should be ok
[22:39:10] <anniepoo_> yes, it's def not 20 hours
[22:39:40] <rue_house> I thought it was hardened steel for his output
[22:40:23] <rue_house> ok I ordered 20 lenses for google cardboard(s)
[22:40:29] <justanotheruser> hmm
[22:40:33] <justanotheruser> so do I need to use a drill press?
[22:40:50] <rue_house> keyways are usually done with a broach
[22:41:13] * anniepoo_ is here, wearing a lovely broach
[22:41:21] <rue_house> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Keyway-broach-bushing-shim-set-Metric-system-22pcs-12-30/32580096475.html
[22:41:46] <justanotheruser> oh boy $300 to cut a keyway
[22:42:20] <rue_house> there are more specific kits
[22:42:28] <rue_house> or a good ole square file
[22:43:17] <rue_house> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-shiping-BOSI-8-square-file-second-cut/1599066717.html
[22:43:44] <rue_house> (gonna be less expensive to get one locallly)
[22:44:35] <justanotheruser> how long does that take
[22:44:38] * anniepoo_ is assembling tank treads
[22:44:49] <justanotheruser> its already in the planetary gear, gonna be tough to get it out
[22:48:38] <justanotheruser> rue_house: won't this imprecision load to backlash?
[22:49:02] <justanotheruser> *lead
[22:49:49] <rue_house> :)
[22:49:55] <justanotheruser> ?
[22:50:16] <justanotheruser> Asked the hackerspace nearby if they had broaching shit
[22:50:25] <rue_house> its gonna break anyhow, does it matter where? (I'm not being negitive, really)
[22:50:25] <justanotheruser> otherwise I'll do this and be super uper careful
[22:50:48] <justanotheruser> rue_house: idk, can I cut your breaks?
[22:51:02] <rue_house> hah
[22:52:10] <rue_house> getting it wrong is a part of getting it right you know
[22:52:17] <justanotheruser> not really
[22:52:30] <justanotheruser> Why would I fuck everything up when I can just fuck up a few things
[22:52:55] <anniepoo_> if youre going to have somebody else do it, dont go to china, google 'machine shop near me'
[22:52:57] <z64555> better a catastrophic failure now than a cascade of tiny failures
[22:53:04] <anniepoo_> any machine shop can broach a keyway
[22:53:13] <z64555> ^ also that
[22:53:16] <justanotheruser> anniepoo_: I have a hackerspace near me
[22:53:25] <z64555> not the same thing
[22:53:33] <justanotheruser> ok
[22:53:43] <anniepoo_> ok, so, the one I used to go to did indeed have a broach
[22:53:45] <justanotheruser> I'm not shipping this 10lb planetary gear to china and back :p
[22:54:07] <z64555> hackerspaces are more geared towards electronics and 3D printing. They don't necassarily have the tooling and know-how a machine shop does
[22:54:21] <anniepoo_> valley machining in Imbler Oregon can do it
[22:54:34] <justanotheruser> the one near me is a mix of metals, woodworking and electronics
[22:54:39] <anniepoo_> tell em The Elgin Works sent you
[22:54:50] <justanotheruser> regardless, I'll probably check out one of the machine shops in the loop
[22:54:56] <justanotheruser> chicago
[22:55:11] <anniepoo_> yes, somebody near you can do it
[22:55:35] <justanotheruser> this is good, there is one close by
[22:55:40] <justanotheruser> I can develop a relationshi pwith them
[22:55:46] <anniepoo_> yes
[22:56:04] <anniepoo_> I was about to suggest that it'd be worth it to have them do it just to develop a relationship
[22:57:01] <anniepoo_> tank treads assembled, ready to mount
[22:57:11] <anniepoo_> back in a bit
[23:01:55] <rue_house> I wanna see
[23:02:00] <rue_house> justanotheruser, only talks
[23:02:13] * justanotheruser puts rue_house on ignore
[23:02:58] <rue_shop3> :P
[23:03:45] <rue_shop> :P
[23:05:13] <justanotheruser> sigh
[23:06:43] <anniepoo_> https://www.instagram.com/p/BNqZrKWASCv/?taken-by=anneogborn
[23:07:13] <justanotheruser> I remember that robot
[23:07:28] <justanotheruser> I scared a janitor with it
[23:07:33] <anniepoo_> lol
[23:07:39] <anniepoo_> yah, I decided to copy it
[23:07:45] <justanotheruser> nice
[23:07:58] <anniepoo_> mbrumlow gave me a list of parts, I sent off a big order, now I'm building
[23:08:18] <rue_shop1> anniepoo_, somehow I thought you 3d printed them?
[23:08:30] <justanotheruser> oh that wasn't yours
[23:08:34] <justanotheruser> I remember you driving it
[23:08:48] <rue_shop1> nice build tho!
[23:09:30] <anniepoo_> yah, I was just driving it at one point that evening
[23:09:52] <justanotheruser> triple pendulum robot balancing itself
http://i.imgur.com/9MtWJhv.gifv
[23:12:05] <rue_shop1> wow thats cool
[23:13:31] <rue_shop3> I like the flywheel cube too
[23:13:40] <rue_shop3> and the pack of synchronized drones
[23:40:04] <Mindstorm8191> justanotheruser, did you make that bot??
[23:47:46] <justanotheruser> Mindstorm8191: no
[23:48:01] <orlock> Why not?
[23:49:34] <justanotheruser> because I was doing things I percieved to be more valuable with my time
[23:49:36] <justanotheruser> https://youtu.be/wrLDoitgYp4
[23:51:09] <Mindstorm8191> ok :) i'm just wondering how the robot knew the angles of the 3 bars, and then how it knows to get the bars above itself like that
[23:54:41] <justanotheruser> Mindstorm8191: maybe CV
[23:56:05] <Mindstorm8191> erm, what's CV?
[23:57:42] <justanotheruser> computer vision
[23:58:19] <justanotheruser> notice how all 3 are different colors
[23:58:32] <justanotheruser> maybe makes detection easier
[23:58:45] <anniepoo_> definitely computer vision
[23:59:49] <anniepoo_> gamut detection.
