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[00:00:21] <rue_house> aha, I can upgrade its Y axis from 6-32 to 10-32 without screwing it up
[00:01:25] <rue_house> I need to make a grinder attachment for the lathe
[00:01:45] <rue_house> that would be a good reason to hunt out a die grinder
[00:02:52] <rue_house> a pneumatic die grinder for $18!?
[00:49:55] <rue_house> do you think its possable to get HSS versions of carbide lathe inserts?
[00:51:30] <SpeedEvil> yes
[00:52:02] <rue_house> I want some triangle ones, cant find 'em
[00:52:29] <rue_house> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MTQNR2020K16-extermal-turning-tool-Factory-outlets-the-lather-boring-bar-cnc-machine-Free-shipping-is-not/1139522661.html
[00:52:34] <rue_house> like the insert in that one
[00:52:57] <SpeedEvil> why hss?
[00:53:08] <rue_house> have you seent eh prices on the carbide bits!?
[00:53:35] <rue_house> you know how long it takes to break a carbide bit?
[00:53:46] <SpeedEvil> that depends on many factors
[00:53:50] <rue_house> a fraction of the time to make the money it costs to replace it
[00:54:08] <SpeedEvil> There is a reason industry moved away from HSS
[00:54:15] <rue_house> yea, like how many times you jog into the corner of a workpeice, or go overcenter on the lathe
[00:54:34] <SpeedEvil> you can also DIY
[00:54:40] <rue_house> you know they crumble if you go over centre
[00:54:40] <rue_house> ?
[00:54:59] <rue_house> I keep mine tucked away incase I have to work on hard metal
[00:55:08] <rue_house> but carbide is duller
[00:55:24] <rue_house> you cant take off a thin layer, not like HSS
[00:55:49] <rue_house> with an HSS bit you can take off 1/2 thou if you want
[00:56:14] <rue_house> your stuck with like 2 thou on a carbide, so you have to get the last cut right
[00:57:34] <rue_house> I wonder if I could make bits for aluminum out of stainless :)
[00:58:00] <rue_house> just have to let it harden up
[00:59:33] <SpeedEvil> HSS stock is widely available
[00:59:47] <SpeedEvil> I can't actually find HSS inserts readily
[00:59:51] <SpeedEvil> I'm sure I'd seen them
[01:01:52] <rue_house> hmm
[01:02:19] <rue_house> maybe if I used a glass bit I could put a hole in some stock
[01:02:25] <rue_house> use a cutoff blade
[01:14:34] <SpeedEvil> what are you trying to cut, with what?
[01:14:55] <rue_house> aluminum, milling machine
[01:15:16] <SpeedEvil> http://www.arwarnerco.com/c-6-standard-and-specialty-inserts.aspx
[01:15:22] <SpeedEvil> so they are made
[01:15:47] <SpeedEvil> http://www.arwarnerco.com/t-hobbiest.aspx
[01:16:20] <rue_house> hmm
[01:16:47] <rue_house> I get the feeling they are more expensive than carbide
[01:18:06] <SpeedEvil> I would not be very surprised
[01:18:11] <rue_house> cut rather than fracture the metal
[01:18:14] <rue_house> ""
[01:18:17] <rue_house> iiinteresting
[01:19:42] <rue_house> TRA??1
[01:20:31] <rue_house> aha, about $6 ea
[01:21:29] <rue_house> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5pcs-10mm-Carbide-Insert-for-Indexable-Lathe-Toolholder-5-Pack/32544139763.html
[01:21:41] <rue_house> hmm
[01:26:02] <rue_house> https://www.kmstools.com/magnum-c-2-grade-5-8-replacement-carbide-inserts-18226
[01:26:10] <rue_house> local price
[02:28:28] <deshipu> https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/6585081478726795228.jpg
[02:28:36] <deshipu> pimping it up a bit
[02:34:59] <veverak> awesome!
[18:34:40] <z64555> hm, just thought of something. a parallel plate capacitor can have inductance, depending on where the pickoff points are
[18:36:44] <z64555> thankfully, the inductive effect can be written off in an efficiency factor, since it is the polar opposite reactance wise
[18:39:17] <pirate21994> hey guys can i get a link for the full robotics syllabus
[18:40:06] <malcom2073_> Which one? There are so many
[18:41:03] <pirate21994> i want full syllabus of robotics
[18:44:21] <pirate21994> so is there any webpage link of your university listing full syllabus
[18:45:40] <malcom2073_> http://stemrobotics.cs.pdx.edu/node/1625
[18:45:43] <malcom2073_> There's one
[18:49:57] <pirate21994> malcom2073_, thanks though i dont see the full syllabus, like listing of all the subjects semester vise, and with the recommended books
[18:50:12] <malcom2073_> pirate21994: I'm not going to google for you :-P
[18:52:23] <pirate21994> malcom2073_, YEAH and i dont want to give unnecessary burden, but i dont seems to find it on google (or duckduckgo) so, but you can give me the syllabus your university use - that would be great for me
[18:53:05] <z64555> _which_ university. there's thousands of them
[18:54:03] <pirate21994> any university will work, i dont want you to google for me, just give me the syllabus of your university
[18:55:01] <z64555> notsure if dubious, or asking the wrong question
[18:56:50] <pirate21994> here the university is GTU and it does not provide the robotics education so i want to go for it on my own i m self-taught
[18:58:28] <z64555> ok. Robitics is a field that is generally attributed to one branch of engineering, either Mechanical or Electrical & Electronics engineering.
[18:59:42] <orlock> A lot of places do a combined course now in Mechatronics
[19:00:10] <orlock> we make robots here, and have a lot of ME's and EE's, not now have a lot of Mechatronics people as well
[19:01:09] <z64555> isn't mechatronics the ME field, sans thermodynamics and instead introduces some EE fundementals?
[19:01:36] <z64555> well, sans thermodynamics and some materials science
[19:02:58] <pirate21994> okey so the robotics program first go through the electrical program and then add some other stuff on it, am i getting it right ?
[19:03:33] <orlock> z64555: Sounds about right - i wouldent know, i'm just a janitor
[19:04:19] <pirate21994> janitor how ?
[19:05:45] <z64555> pirate21994: I'd actually recommend going through the mechanical program first, focusing on mechanical systems and linkages.
[19:05:46] <pirate21994> so what subjects are extra to electronics in robotics ?
[19:06:15] <z64555> controls systems is a seperate field, but it is included in most engineering courses
[19:07:36] <z64555> Electronics introduces sensors and tranducers which convert physical stimuli into electrical sensors that is interpreted by circuitry, which can be either a logic gate network or a microcontroller
[19:08:04] <orlock> pirate21994: i unclog the tubes, keep the pipes clean
[19:08:08] <orlock> keep the bits flowing
[19:08:55] <z64555> EE's are generally focused on simple electrical circuits, which isn't as applical as the latter courses in digital logic
[19:09:00] <orlock> pirate21994: Going to PM you a URL that might have some information of use - its for a company that makes hig h end robots
[19:09:06] <z64555> s/generally/initially
[19:09:36] <orlock> z64555: Yet funnily enough, my old boss was an EE.. his PHD was in robotic vision
[19:09:54] <z64555> which is a sensory control system
[19:10:13] <orlock> z64555: End the end i guess once you get in-depth enough with your EE, you end up dealing with the software running on it as well
[19:10:31] <z64555> eh, both fields end up with software nowadays
[19:11:01] <z64555> hm, he left
[19:11:04] <programmer> hey guys thank you very i ran into a problem, some one took my nick and i dont know what happen
[19:11:24] <z64555> you didn't register with Nickserv
[19:11:55] <z64555> do /help, and your IRC client should show you stuff
[19:11:58] <programmer> its registered and so i m getting panic that may be i m hacked
[19:12:07] <orlock> z64555: yup, we have hundreds of engineers here in a cube farm of all sorts designing robots, and it's all software
[19:12:45] <orlock> Until its not.. we have a machine shop to actually _build_ them
[19:13:04] <z64555> software is cheap, metal is not
[19:13:46] <z64555> so you usually get a drawn out anatype that's run in simulations, then you get a prototype that's tinkered with to make sure the bits work right, and doesn't fall apart
[19:14:16] <z64555> and finally you get a production model that's sent to the customer, or to a factory line to mass produce them
[19:14:55] <z64555> programmer: whats your registered name
[19:15:26] <kasious> woh 100s of engineers
[19:15:28] <kasious> that sounds intense
[19:15:29] <orlock> z64555: Usually i think we have a functionaliyt prototype first, where the concept is proven and works
[19:15:57] <z64555> 100's of engineers is a good size
[19:16:01] <orlock> z64555: and then after that stage theres another phase where a device to be manufactured is designed
[19:16:25] <orlock> its a work-renowned consulting engineering firm
[19:16:32] <programmer> z64555, its pirate21994
[19:17:43] <z64555> it's possible you didn't log in
[19:18:24] <z64555> do /nickserv ghost pirate21994 <pw>
[19:18:30] <z64555> where <pw> is your password
[19:18:51] <z64555> and once that's done, do /nick pirate21994
[19:18:57] <programmer> z64555,
http://pastebin.com/x85kYyf0
[19:19:36] <z64555> looks normal to me
[19:20:30] <programmer> z64555, but i m worried about security like may be some one has my password or else
[19:21:10] <malcom2073_> programmer: Then change your password
[19:21:16] <z64555> so just change your pw
[19:21:33] <z64555> also it's IRC, not a real big deal
[19:22:05] <programmer> okey well doing it is there any thing else i should do
[19:22:15] <z64555> unless you did something foolish like using the same username and password for, like, your steam account
[19:22:31] <z64555> did you ghost?
[19:22:43] <programmer> doing it now
[19:22:57] <programmer> what it does the ghost
[19:23:08] <z64555> it boots off anybody that has that nick
[19:23:24] <z64555> Sometimes, if you disconnect, you'll have a "ghost" in the channel
[19:23:26] <Tom_L> usually works
[19:23:55] <z64555> which is a nobody, but the server still thinks you're there. So you do a ghost to boot it off the system, and then can reclaim the nick
[19:25:59] <programmer> it says this
http://pastebin.com/8Hd8BRyi
[19:26:36] <Tom_L> haha
[19:26:41] <Tom_L> did you get yourself banned?
[19:27:04] <programmer> no how can i get banned i did nothing
[19:27:14] <z64555> where you just on this channel?
[19:27:22] <Tom_L> i could show you but i won't
[19:27:23] <Tom_L> :D
[19:27:49] <programmer> no some other programming channels too
[19:28:00] <z64555> upset anybody on those?
[19:28:45] <programmer> not at all i did not even talk a lot in the ##chat
[19:29:18] <z64555> anybody say anything to you on those channels? They might have had a policy you had broken without knowing it
[19:29:30] <z64555> It's also possible somebody thought you were a bot
[19:30:04] <Tom_L> is that nick registered to you?
[19:30:22] <programmer> hmm its possible because i havent talked in that room for days
[19:30:28] <programmer> Tom_L, yes it is
[19:31:06] <pirate21994> it's free now
[19:32:21] * z64555 pokes the programmer
[19:32:32] <programmer> its banned on a lot
[19:32:42] <programmer> http://pastebin.com/TmWqqKEt
[19:32:57] <programmer> how is that possible
[19:33:46] <Tom_L> is programmer registered as well?
[19:33:57] <Tom_L> you need a registered nick to work on another one
[19:34:17] <programmer> no programmer is not it auto
[19:34:18] <z64555> well. it's possible that pirate21994 name belonged to an unsavory character before
[19:34:26] <Snert_> programmer: leave the channel. Change your nick. Rejoin the channel.
[19:34:44] <Snert_> pirate21994 ##linux :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[19:34:57] <Snert_> so leave, change it, then rejoin.
[19:35:28] <Tom_L> i was on ##chat when i tested it and it didn't do anything to me
[19:35:36] <orlock> It's to stop banned people using nick changes to cotinue their rants
[19:35:58] <Tom_L> that's why you ban the ip
[19:36:01] <Snert_> and you get banned because of repeated disconnects.
[19:36:10] <Snert_> happens to me all the time.
[19:36:23] <z64555> repeated disconnects is grounds for banning? why?
[19:36:30] <z64555> where is the logic in that
[19:36:33] <Tom_L> it's annoying
[19:36:44] <Snert_> some autoban thing when you repeatedly disconnect and auto rejoin.
[19:36:55] <z64555> then your IRC client is dumb
[19:36:57] <Tom_L> happens when unattended and client tries and tries to keep joining
[19:37:05] <Snert_> yup Tom.
[19:37:21] <Tom_L> i've banned a few like that
[19:37:25] <Snert_> it's not personal.
[19:37:29] <Tom_L> they usually pm me and i'll release it
[19:37:43] <programmer> so i will get my nick back or has to change it
[19:38:08] <Tom_L> unless i decide to take it :D
[19:38:59] <Tom_L> part the channels, change your nick and rejoin them
[19:39:32] <programmer> lol Tom_L , so i will get it automatically or have to do something
[19:41:04] <Tom_L> worked fine for me
[19:41:12] <Tom_L> i joined all those you posted
[19:42:01] <programmer> so why cant i join all those channels
[19:42:15] <Tom_L> i told them all to F off while i was pirate too :D
[19:43:23] <Snert_> :)
[19:43:49] <Tom_L> you got other issues if that doesn't work
[19:44:41] <programmer> i can join too by webchat, so you tells that its autojoin issue Tom_L
[19:44:54] <programmer> and nothing else
[19:45:56] <Tom_L> was the server you were on part of a netsplit?
[19:46:34] <programmer> i dont know, using the hexchat and freenode
[19:46:49] <Tom_L> someone ssh'd into your irc client and is currently hacking your pc
[19:47:11] <programmer> Tom_L, are you kidding ???
[19:47:25] <Tom_L> am I?
[19:47:30] <orlock> sorry i will stop
[19:47:35] <Tom_L> heh
[19:48:29] <programmer> well so i dont need to worry right ? or you says i m being hacked
[19:48:40] <Tom_L> i was F ing with you
[19:49:08] <programmer> Tom_L, well have fun, i m new to programming and stuff
[19:49:36] <Tom_L> this is a friendly channel
[19:50:13] <Tom_L> just give us your CC number and pin and keep us fed
[19:50:19] <programmer> yeah Tom_L and its good as long as i m not really hacked
[19:50:39] <programmer> what is cc num and pin
[19:50:40] <Tom_L> i seriously doubt it
[19:50:46] <programmer> oh
[19:50:49] <programmer> lol
[19:51:07] <programmer> r u serious
[19:52:15] <z64555> stop trolling the poor boy, you'll scar him for life
[19:52:34] <z64555> wait until he's been on IRC long enough to recognize sarcasm
[19:53:32] <programmer> z64555, you are really a nice person i have to say though
[19:53:58] <z64555> thank you, I try to be helpful when I can
[19:53:58] <programmer> how autojoin causing it and how to prevent it
[19:54:31] <Snert_> programmer: turn off autojoin in your client.
[19:55:01] <programmer> z64555, you are in my friend list, well its your nick is it the registered one
[19:55:23] <z64555> yeah, this nick's registered. I sometimes do other nicks for funsies
[19:55:44] <z64[doot]> usually in this format
[19:57:05] <programmer> yeah thats one way, but i dont know how autojoin causing because its the first time happened and i did autojoined many times before
[19:57:38] <Tom_L> shit happens
[19:57:53] <Tom_L> just ask Gump
[19:58:25] <z64555> yeah, gotta watch out for stuff that jumps up and bites you during the middle of a Vietnam firefight
[19:58:47] <programmer> shit happens , how can it happen in a total random fashion
[19:58:48] <Tom_L> i saw the bench that was filmed on btw...
[19:58:59] <Tom_L> the park bench
[19:59:17] <z64555> neat
[19:59:23] <Tom_L> savannah Ga
[19:59:33] <z64555> programmer: blame Murphy for the randomness
[19:59:55] <programmer> lol
[20:01:37] <programmer> hey guys it was nice talking to you, bye
[20:03:33] <Tom_L> i bet he left because he was worried he was being hacked
[20:30:13] <Snert__> he just didn't understand.
[20:30:25] <Snert__> all ya gottadu is leave, change nicks and rejoin.
[20:30:35] <Snert__> but he wouldn't just do that.
[20:31:36] <Snert__> you can drive a horse to drink, but ya just can't give them water.
[20:51:39] <rue_shop3> ...
[20:52:00] <rue_shop3> I had this great plan last night and I screwed up the details
[21:38:39] <z3t0> any chance this is the right place to ask about quadcopters....
[21:41:30] <Tom_L> oh i suppose
[21:42:34] <z3t0> Okay then, I am working on planning a workshop at my high school to teach about quads and am trying to figure out what the main parts are that we will need to purchase
[21:42:53] <z3t0> So far I have: motors, control board, battery, ESC, propellers, frame(though this will be 3d printed at school)
[22:18:46] <justanotheruser> what do you guys think of this motor for a robot arm?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-BALDOR-SERVO-MOTOR-BSM80C-375AF-with-Stober-10-1-Ratio-SERVOFIT-GEARBOX-/232130268778?hash=item360c0ace6a:g:W0cAAOSwcUBYF4fE
[22:19:51] <justanotheruser> peak torque 80lb-ft, seems reasonable
[22:20:01] <justanotheruser> (8lb-ft without the gearbox)
[22:44:10] <SpeedEvil> 300v would be rather annoying
[22:48:39] <justanotheruser> SpeedEvil: its about 5-15 amps, so yeah
[22:49:33] <justanotheruser> I'll need a good PSU
[23:32:21] <z64555> oh, z3t0 left
[23:32:55] <z64555> he got most of everything, but he left out the R/C transmitter
[23:33:06] <z64555> and an IMU
[23:33:31] <z64555> and possibly also a PDB, power distribution board
