#robotics Logs

Nov 25 2014

06:05 hypodyne howdy
06:42 dpio and so the majestic silence goes on, undisturbed.
08:58 twos .join #hackerspacesg
08:59 twos man this is embarassing....
09:18 rue_more well you said soemthing, thats a start
09:18 Steffanx Hi
09:18 rue_more now we just need other people to join in on the action
09:21 rue_more a 4-40ma sensor, that can sense temps from 0-400c, would require a 1/2w 250R sense resistor and the 1-5V signal would yeild a .49c temp resolution
09:21 rue_more er, 4-20ma
09:21 rue_more heh
10:34 drawing__ can anybody tell me why my code isnt working
10:34 drawing__ http://pastebin.com/rM09vUG6
10:39 dpio what exactly doesn't work?
10:41 dpio byte high = 0x00, low = 0x00;
10:41 dpio perhaps high shouldn't be zero?
10:51 iveevue drawing__, pls don't name files with uppercase letters...
10:52 iveevue Also, what exactly "isn't working"?
10:53 drawing__ name what files?
10:54 drawing__ im returning 0
10:54 drawing__ always
10:55 dpio drawing__, your high and low values are both 0x00;
10:55 dpio so it sort of works, but it doesn't do what you expect (rather, it does nothing).
10:56 drawing__ high and low describe different memory locations
10:58 iveevue What api is this?
10:58 iveevue Also, on line 39 you check for 255, but you don't seem to reset it after
10:59 iveevue I am assuming here that when low is 255, you inc high and reset low ?
10:59 drawing__ uno32
11:03 iveevue Also if you're working with hex, why not check if low == 0xFF rather than 255?
11:03 drawing__ The device is organized as eight blocks of 256 x 8-bit
11:03 drawing__ memory
11:05 drawing__ yes
11:06 drawing__ but before it cant reset i first need to get something other than 0
13:35 GuShH rue_shop2: took the ugly cover off of the big lathe, it looks like it was flat belt at one point, then converted to V belt, lots of unused space on the spindle now
13:36 GuShH 3HP motor, wasn't terribly heavy to lift though
13:36 GuShH bearings seem fine on it
13:36 GuShH but to remove the belts you gotta take teh whole spindle out
13:37 hackman127 What to use for a power supply on a battery powered ITX board?
13:44 hackman127 Huh. Well, this is handy! http://www.mini-box.com/DC-DC
15:15 Tom_itx hackman127, one of those :D
15:18 hackman127 Tom_itx: Thanks! :D
15:19 Tom_itx i use one on this itx
15:39 hackman127 Same one I linked to?
15:59 Tom_itx i didn't click
15:59 Tom_itx i recognized the site
16:00 Tom_itx mine was the 120 iirc
16:13 hackman127 Tom_itx: gotcha. Happy with it?
16:22 Tom_itx been working for quite a few years so... yes
16:22 Tom_itx 24/7
16:23 hackman127 Awesome. Thanks for the input on it!
16:24 Tom_itx mine is the pico 120
16:25 hackman127 The board I'm looking at has a celeron processor on it, so I may go with one of the higher capacity boards, but thank you for the info. You never know when you order from some place new.
16:26 Tom_itx they make bigger ones like 180?
16:27 hackman127 The one I was looking at was 160, 200 peak. I'm sure if you added some heat sinks you could run it under a heavier load.
16:28 Tom_itx i've been happy with their stuff
16:28 hackman127 They look like they have a lot of handy items for what we do.
18:57 rue_more ok...
18:58 rue_more definitly one of those days that made it self out to be eaiser than it really was
18:58 Tom_itx oh?
18:58 Tom_itx wanna trade?
18:59 orlock dropped off my reposit for i3 last night
18:59 rue_more "wire up the door" -> "not this door that door, and it needs this and that and this and the other" boss: "that wasn't what we priced on" 3rd party parts supplier: "" rue: "HELLO!?!?"
18:59 orlock deposit
18:59 orlock the "factory" isnt a factory for making 3d printers
18:59 orlock the guys smarter than that
18:59 orlock its a factory for making _filament_
18:59 orlock they have a commercial/industrial grade extruder
19:00 rue_more it seems that the origional filiment for reprap is plastic welding 'wire'
19:00 orlock vinyl repair stuff?
19:00 rue_more pla and abs apparently
19:01 orlock anyway - interesting, and probably goodidea if you have the capital
20:02 rue_shop2 ok!
20:02 rue_shop2 I have new PT100 sensors
20:02 rue_shop2 at some point I told myself that I would make up an oven controller like tom has
20:02 rue_shop2 seeing as hes open sourced it and all
20:03 rue_shop2 it was silly easy
20:03 rue_shop2 esp since I bought SSR relays
20:03 rue_shop2 relay relays?
20:03 rue_shop2 yea
20:03 rue_shop2 you bought relay relays?
20:03 rue_shop2 shutup you
20:03 rue_shop2 relay relays
20:03 rue_shop2 THATS WHAT I SAID
20:04 rue_shop2 you said it twice, do you say everything twice?
20:04 rue_shop2 I do when i want to, sometimes, more than twice
20:04 rue_shop2 goof
20:04 rue_shop2 dont start with me!
20:04 rue_shop2 so I should end with you?
20:04 rue_shop2 save the best for last baby!
20:05 rue_shop2 muh..
20:05 rue_shop2 where is toms schematic
20:05 rue_shop2 for the oven,
20:05 rue_shop2 you closed that tab didn't you
20:05 Tom_itx so it it working yet?
20:05 rue_shop2 no, I think its still up
20:06 rue_shop2 I think he closed my tab
20:06 rue_shop2 you prolly didn't have it open on this computer
20:06 rue_shop2 should we get these LM35?
20:06 rue_shop2 wait on that
20:06 rue_shop2 where is toms schematic!?
20:06 rue_shop2 on his page!?
20:07 rue_shop2 zlog
20:07 rue_shop2 or the other one
20:07 rue_shop2 hell if I know
20:07 rue_shop2 google it
20:07 rue_shop2 ask
20:07 rue_shop2 good, now I dont know if I should ask or google it
20:07 rue_shop2 ask tom to google it for you
20:07 Tom_itx seems the dyndns isn't working
20:07 rue_shop2 :P
20:08 Tom_itx hang on
20:08 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/toaster_oven_index.php
20:08 Tom_itx that's why i got 2 now
20:09 rue_shop2 you should tell dyndns where they can shove it
20:09 Tom_itx i did
20:09 rue_shop2 good!
20:09 Tom_itx the other is ddns01.com
20:09 rue_shop2 its a mega168
20:09 Tom_itx but it's apparently down
20:09 rue_shop2 do we have a 168
20:09 rue_shop2 I think so, go check maybe?
20:10 Tom_itx 48 would work
20:10 Tom_itx 88
20:10 Tom_itx 168
20:10 Tom_itx 328
20:10 Tom_itx 32768
20:10 Tom_itx oop
20:10 Tom_itx s
20:11 orlock i wonder how much commercial filament extruders cost
20:12 rue_shop2 I have 1 mega168
20:13 rue_shop2 whats with all the mega88 tho?
20:13 rue_shop2 it was a china sale
20:13 rue_shop2 ah
20:13 rue_shop2 88 would work?
20:13 rue_shop2 someone bought LOTS of those...
20:13 orlock http://www.fleasystems.com/fleaFPGA.html
20:13 rue_shop2 hey, they were cheap!
20:13 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, 88 is ok?
20:13 rue_shop2 you have a 168, use that
20:14 rue_shop2 I want to use up your stupid 88's
20:14 rue_shop2 but you dont have to
20:14 rue_shop2 and whats with the 324 your not using!
20:14 rue_shop2 those are good chips!
20:14 rue_shop2 yea! your supposed to use them instead of the 32's
20:14 rue_shop2 but they are special, I cant *just* use them
20:14 rue_shop2 we talked about this...
20:14 rue_shop2 save everything!
20:15 rue_shop2 no, USE EVERYTHING!
20:15 rue_shop2 but then we wont have anything left
20:15 rue_shop2 no, trust me, lots and lots left
20:15 rue_shop2 look, program a damn chip
20:15 rue_shop2 right, we got distracted, sorry
20:16 rue_shop2 start a box
20:16 rue_shop2 BOX. BOX. BOX.
20:16 rue_shop2 I have a wooden box!
20:16 rue_shop2 yay! antistatic!
20:16 rue_shop2 ok, put chip in box
20:16 rue_shop2 done.
20:17 rue_shop2 ok, put SSR's in box.
20:17 rue_shop2 I dont think leaving them *IN* the toaster oven was a good idea
20:17 rue_shop2 what size lcd?
20:18 rue_shop2 I cant tell
20:18 rue_shop2 2x16
20:18 rue_shop2 pff how about we use 4x40?
20:18 rue_shop2 how about you stick to the damn plan
20:18 rue_shop2 ok, ok
20:19 rue_shop2 with or without backlight?
20:19 rue_shop2 ... with?
20:19 rue_shop2 green or blue?
20:19 rue_shop2 oh oh oh blue
20:20 rue_shop2 what... when.... how long have you been packing away the 447880 lcd screens!?
20:20 rue_shop2 little while...
20:20 rue_shop2 geeez dude!
20:21 rue_shop2 ok I put one in the box... whats next
20:21 rue_shop2 I CANT FIT THE BOX OF SCREENS BACK ON THE BLOOMING SHELF, CMON!
20:21 rue_shop2 .. its rainign lcd screens...
20:22 rue_shop2 ok whats next
20:22 rue_shop2 pt100 sensor
20:22 rue_shop2 I just had them....
20:22 rue_shop2 ugh...
20:22 rue_shop2 nono, they are close.... give me a min...
20:24 rue_shop2 ok, its in the box,
20:24 rue_shop2 hey, wait a sec, if those sensors are good for 400c, why ARENT they used on the reaprap
20:24 rue_shop2 your asking me?
20:25 rue_shop2 well?
20:25 rue_shop2 hell if I know, lets keeep to the oven
20:25 rue_shop2 whats next
20:25 rue_shop2 uh, hmm
20:25 rue_shop2 there is something wrong here
20:26 rue_shop2 where is the lcd conenction
20:26 rue_shop2 its the serial
20:26 rue_shop2 no, thats for the computer
20:26 rue_shop2 it is?
20:26 rue_shop2 isn't it?
20:27 rue_shop2 both the lcd and the oven have the same serial connector
20:27 rue_shop2 I think your right, the serial goes to the lcd, so what talks to the computer/
20:27 rue_shop2 does it?
20:27 rue_shop2 can I change that bit
20:28 rue_shop2 I'd like to get it going as is
20:28 rue_shop2 wait
20:28 rue_shop2 what
20:28 rue_shop2 if its using std serial for the lcd, we can just replace that with the computer
20:28 rue_shop2 oh
20:28 rue_shop2 for now
20:28 rue_shop2 yea
20:28 rue_shop2 do I take the lcd out of the box
20:28 rue_shop2 LEAVE THE BOX ALONE
20:28 rue_shop2 ok ok ok...
20:29 rue_shop2 whats next
20:29 rue_shop2 well, I recon a breadboard
20:29 rue_shop2 whats the led for?
20:29 rue_shop2 your asking me
20:29 rue_shop2 ?
20:30 rue_shop2 we need a start button
20:30 rue_shop2 did we get any fliptop rocket launch buttons from china?
20:30 rue_shop2 no, I think they were all over #!
20:30 rue_shop2 $1 even?
20:30 rue_shop2 100k pulldown? hmm
20:31 rue_shop2 hey its on internal clock
20:31 rue_shop2 cool, we dont need a crystal
20:31 rue_shop2 we need a breadboard
20:32 rue_shop2 ok, need a pinout for a mega168
20:32 rue_shop2 DONT TOUCH MY LM35 TAB!
20:34 rue_shop2 orlock, $65 ouch
20:36 orlock rue_shop2: getting one for free
20:36 rue_shop2 oh, much better price
20:36 rue_shop2 is free less than $20?
20:37 rue_shop2 shipping anywhere but canada rules
20:37 rue_shop2 we must be paying to make shipping every where else cheap.
20:37 rue_shop2 I need tea
20:37 rue_shop2 I better come with you
20:38 Tom_itx tea sounds good
20:38 GuShH someone traced the origins of the big lathe for me http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/58191/26873116.0/0_6cca9_20e0a6b9_XXXL.jpg
20:38 GuShH most likely a clone
20:38 GuShH but I argued the bed style was common at the time...
20:39 rue_more I vote we make an onning out the back door
20:39 rue_more I support this motion
20:39 rue_more motion granted, we build a back door onning
20:39 orlock onning?
20:39 orlock Awning?
20:39 rue_more oooooh thats old....
20:39 rue_more cool!
20:40 rue_more ARG, its bolted down out in the weather!
20:40 GuShH that thing was beautiful, this thing isn't
20:40 GuShH rue_more: yes... as decoration.
20:40 GuShH like a garden gnome
20:40 GuShH wanna see more?
20:40 e_more c
20:40 rue_more no...
20:40 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4606/26873116.1/0_6cd5f_1926c37d_XL.jpg
20:40 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4701/26873116.0/0_6ccb7_a7994c2b_L.jpg
20:40 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9895/33511288.1/0_e9ffa_4f852286_XL.jpg
20:40 ShH wipes
20:40 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/58191/26873116.1/0_6cd61_f818b97a_XL.jpg
20:40 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9255/33511288.1/0_ea001_1cb02f39_XL.jpg <<< what a shame.
20:41 rue_more man, talk about setting up the job, imagine having to set the gears for a threading job on that thing
20:41 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9257/33511288.1/0_e9ff8_bc16ec4c_XL.jpg
20:41 GuShH ahaha
20:41 GuShH and you needed central power for the flat belts
20:41 GuShH one huge 5-6 meter long belt was common at the time, flopping right next to your face
20:41 GuShH http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6605/26873116.7/0_85e83_d0ea1221_XXXL.jpg !!
20:42 GuShH http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/Asquith1/MarineEng02.jpg 1909 Glasgow, machining a shaft for a british war ship
20:43 GuShH https://sestao.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nuevos-talleres-de-maquinaria-torno-horizontal-9-1920.jpg pose, we must.
20:44 GuShH have you seen the jeep converted to a mobile workshop? circa 1940s / war era
20:45 rue_shop2 least the other ones were painted, might still be kinda ok under there
20:45 rue_shop2 ok breaboard
20:45 GuShH http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/items/ACCNUM_SCREEN/018106.JPG
20:45 rue_shop2 usb module...
20:45 GuShH those jeeps also had a genset for lighting up the cap
20:45 GuShH camp
20:48 rue_shop2 so its the same bed style as the first one?
20:50 GuShH yes
20:50 GuShH but not quite the same parts as the picture, however very similar.
20:50 rue_shop2 I'd suggest yours is newer
20:50 rue_shop2 does yours have flat belt previsions?
20:50 GuShH newerr / clone
20:50 rue_shop2 pro..
20:50 GuShH it was flat belt
20:50 GuShH they converted it
20:51 rue_shop2 ah
20:51 rue_shop2 interesting
20:51 GuShH http://i.imgur.com/Zzwtz5x.jpg you can see there
20:51 GuShH the same overall shapes, but not the same parts, different apron.
20:51 rue_shop2 is the crossection of the bed the same
20:51 rue_shop2 that would be a giveaway
20:52 GuShH probably converted also because it has taper bearings --> http://i.imgur.com/hXQPitU.jpg
20:52 GuShH when did timken invent them?
20:52 rue_shop2 is our lathe bushing or bearing?
20:52 GuShH the one on the first pic would've been bushing
20:52 GuShH this looks like it was upgraded
20:52 rue_shop2 nice cleanup sofar by the way
20:53 GuShH just diesel and a brush
20:53 rue_shop2 damnit, I put the manual somewehre
20:53 GuShH I'm waiting on my pressure washer (sent to service on warranty) so I can hydro-blast parts
20:54 GuShH this is just for fun, otherwise it would end up in a landfill or scrapped
20:54 rue_shop2 soda blast them
20:54 rue_shop2 heh, indeed
20:54 rue_shop2 I'd take it on
20:55 GuShH I managed to free the collet on the turret lathe, it was stuck with an allthread inside, I've yet to remove the collet nut, not sure if its left hand thread or right hand
20:55 rue_shop2 heh
20:55 rue_shop2 thats always a nice delemina
20:55 GuShH �
20:57 GuShH let me show you something, hard to see on this pic but you'll notice it... they went through the compound with some type of cutting tool, they went in deep. http://i.imgur.com/TwJV3b3.jpg
20:57 GuShH just a quick primer on the parts, see the compound at the bottom of the pic, with the two "slots"
20:57 GuShH oh and a broken bolt
20:58 GuShH it'll look fine, not sure how well it might work.
20:58 GuShH O
20:58 rue_shop2 bit of pitting
20:58 GuShH yeah
20:58 rue_shop2 that bolt shouldn't be too hard to get out
20:58 GuShH I could replace the leadscrews, nuts... dress the bed... but why bother.
20:59 rue_shop2 looking good, whats the clamp around the tailstock?
20:59 GuShH I set a $25 budget for this.
20:59 GuShH I've no idea, might have been for a depth stop or gage
20:59 rue_shop2 not taking it off?
20:59 GuShH couldn't
20:59 GuShH and they brazed the front area of the tailstock, since someone dropped it at one point in time
20:59 rue_shop2 !?
20:59 GuShH I'll dress that
20:59 GuShH I think they welded the other side of the ring, the nut.
21:00 GuShH I'll get to it later :)
21:00 GuShH can't spend much time on it
21:00 rue_shop2 oh, another signature, the pattern on the tailstock wheel
21:00 rue_shop2 see what that matches
21:01 rue_shop2 that would be a signature of the same foundry
21:01 GuShH most likely
21:01 GuShH I need to repair the bottom part
21:01 rue_shop2 gee, if that thing could only tell stories
21:01 GuShH wish I knew it's story
21:02 GuShH I only know about the last years.
21:02 rue_shop2 ah, no dial on the tailstock handle, interesting
21:02 GuShH no dial anywhere at all
21:02 rue_shop2 so it wasn't for precision work?
21:02 rue_shop2 hmm
21:02 GuShH I need to get some caster wheels... to move it around
21:02 rue_shop2 maybe they just didn't do that
21:02 GuShH most of the older lathes had no dials
21:03 rue_shop2 yea, none on the cross slide!
21:03 GuShH or very crude 4 or 8 divisions on the wheel and you knew how much it would advance, but nothing else.
21:03 GuShH rue_shop2: my initial guess was "this is a metal spinning lathe"
21:03 rue_shop2 I wonder how accurate the origional leadscrews were
21:03 GuShH that they just kinda converted into something else
21:04 GuShH no idea, one can only guess
21:04 GuShH those gears were massive, this thing has none of the original gears sadly
21:04 GuShH annoys the crap out of me.
21:04 rue_shop2 does it look like it ever had a carrige leadscrew?
21:04 GuShH at one point probably, you can see one big screw on the left corner under the headstock
21:05 GuShH err, bolt.
21:05 GuShH once I take the saddle out I'll be able to tell for sure
21:05 rue_shop2 is there a nut on the apron?
21:05 rue_shop2 ah
21:05 GuShH I can't push it at all, it needs casters
21:05 GuShH the others I could man handle, not this one :(
21:06 rue_shop2 tahts part of what makes it great
21:06 rue_shop2 its real metal
21:06 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, why is the RC filters on AVCC 0 ohms?
21:06 GuShH very hard, I dropped a tool on the ways and I couldn't see a mark
21:06 rue_shop2 yea
21:07 GuShH whereas on the turret lathe I hit the bearing cover by mistake and it left a dent
21:07 GuShH and the ways are relatively soft by comparison
21:07 rue_shop2 I bumped the bed on my lathe with a hacksaw and it left a cut
21:07 GuShH yeah I have a small dent on mine, or two
21:07 GuShH they claim it is flame hardened or some shit
21:07 GuShH total lie.
21:07 GuShH no, induction hardened
21:07 GuShH lol
21:08 rue_shop2 I had been specifically trying to be carefull too, so I was kinda upset that I marked the bed that soon
21:08 GuShH to be fair the hardness "layer" can be very thin, but these were NOT hardened, the chinese ones
21:08 rue_shop2 mine says 'heat treated'
21:08 GuShH same here, I also feel bad every time a little chip of paint falls off for no particular reason
21:08 rue_shop2 I'm sure they kept it over 30c for atleast 8 hours :/
21:08 GuShH the corner of the tailstock is almost down to bare metal
21:08 GuShH shows the same type of cheap primer I use
21:09 rue_shop2 GuShH, the chips of paint come off to let go of the metal shavings under them
21:09 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, the RC filter on AVcc?
21:09 GuShH haha the parts "deflate" like a pignatta
21:09 rue_shop2 the R is 0 ohms...?
21:10 GuShH the motor sounds odd, but other than that and after some modifications, the chinky lathe still works
21:10 rue_shop2 my motors starter switch plate makes a hell of a noise when its not running,
21:11 rue_shop2 I desire a 3P + vfd
21:11 rue_shop2 which I cant find for my budget(s)
21:11 rue_shop2 even the big budgets
21:11 GuShH it doesn't squeal anymore (that was the centrifugal switch "breaking in") but it vibrates and sounds terrible, compared to what I'm used to.
21:11 rue_shop2 atleast the motor is a standard frame size
21:11 GuShH I have the vfd and many 1hp options but none are direct replacement motors
21:11 rue_shop2 have you tried to get it up to high speed?
21:12 rue_shop2 mine trips a cutout on the power bar
21:12 rue_shop2 before it gets up to speed
21:12 GuShH oh at the highest belt, it kinda fails to start once or twice
21:12 GuShH so that happens with yours also?
21:12 rue_shop2 k
21:12 rue_shop2 I think you have to loosten up the drivetrain to get there
21:12 rue_shop2 :)
21:12 GuShH that is lame. basically the motor has no starting torque for that setting
21:13 GuShH if you move the motor one way, maybe the small belt gets tensioned right, but you can't put the longer belt at all
21:13 GuShH I will eventually replace all of that crap
21:13 rue_shop2 I have the parts sitting at the head for a reverser
21:13 GuShH when I got a vfd for the milling machine, I bought two instead of one, with the idea of using the other one on the chinky lathe
21:13 rue_shop2 I want to do left hand feed
21:13 GuShH me too, actually found a nice link
21:14 GuShH one sec
21:14 GuShH I haven't seen it before
21:14 rue_shop2 I had a gear of the right pitch
21:14 GuShH very simple mod
21:14 rue_shop2 yea
21:14 rue_shop2 I squirreled images away
21:14 GuShH you move the banjo out, then slide the secondary (mod) banjo in
21:14 GuShH no drilling, use existing holes
21:14 rue_shop2 I think they were designed for it
21:14 rue_shop2 which is why that first gear is set out so far
21:15 GuShH I got some extra gears from that big lathe (it had a weird banjo setup for automation)
21:15 GuShH but they might be from the other lathe, we'll see
21:15 GuShH might be the same tooth profile
21:15 GuShH module
21:16 GuShH can't find the link...
21:16 GuShH there's also a brake mod
21:16 GuShH uses a brake disc from a bicycle
21:16 GuShH it is AMAZING.
21:16 rue_shop2 cool
21:16 rue_shop2 I need to put a brake on my drill press
21:16 rue_shop2 I'v got a general idea
21:17 rue_shop2 solinoid in parallel iwth the motor, pulling a shoe that catches the pulley
21:17 GuShH is it a big unit?
21:17 rue_shop2 no
21:17 rue_shop2 10" benchtop
21:17 GuShH might want a sacrificial iron or steel "pulley" just for the brake
21:17 rue_shop2 but my patience is somewhere around 430ms
21:18 GuShH otherwise some rubber might work, but won't last long :p
21:18 rue_shop2 and at top speed it can take a whole like 3 seconds to spin down
21:18 GuShH ok after I modified my small chinese drillpress (with preload nut and proper bearings) it spins down quite fast because of the high preload
21:18 rue_shop2 by then I'v grabbed it
21:18 rue_shop2 which, all in all, isn't safe
21:18 GuShH alas, that drillpress is too small for the smallest taper bearings
21:18 rue_shop2 I also want to make an intermediate pulley
21:19 rue_shop2 which, come to think of it, I can do now...
21:19 ShH also filled up the column with concrete and rebar, it was already rust primed so
21:19 GuShH if it does rot away, I'll replace it with a SOLID column.
21:19 rue_shop2 uh
21:19 rue_shop2 benchtop or floor unit?
21:19 GuShH it dapened the vibrations quite well, ideally you would use epoxy
21:19 GuShH it is a benchtop, I would do it on either one
21:20 rue_shop2 did it make a difference?
21:20 GuShH been looking for an old floor unit
21:20 GuShH yes it did
21:20 rue_shop2 make a new pole :)
21:20 rue_shop2 huh
21:20 GuShH also another important mod, the setscrew for the head should pass through
21:20 GuShH not just grab on the column
21:20 rue_shop2 you know, I'v not really done anything to mine
21:20 GuShH because otherwise it vibrates
21:20 GuShH I've added "gib screws" and all kinds of mods to mine
21:20 rue_shop2 less accidently dropping the chuck off a few times due to side load
21:20 GuShH since it was trash.
21:21 GuShH the older ones had a split collar with a big nut you could tighten to take out the slop and also lock the quill
21:21 rue_shop2 have pics?
21:21 rue_shop2 I dont have problems with #80 carbide drills on mine
21:21 GuShH I just drilled and tapped M6 all over the head so the bolts would push against the quill
21:21 GuShH ideally, brass.
21:21 rue_shop2 I use it for pcb drilling
21:21 GuShH it does take the slop away
21:22 GuShH if you use brass screws, it will mark the quill.
21:22 GuShH err, steel
21:22 GuShH screws/bolts ... tired
21:22 rue_shop2 you have me interested!
21:23 rue_shop2 a brake and a lower speed for large bits is all I'v been into on mine
21:23 rue_shop2 http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/9920/99201_0.jpg
21:24 rue_shop2 mine is a 10" whatever
21:24 GuShH yeah the bigger model
21:24 GuShH I'm waiting for an old one
21:24 rue_shop2 that look much bigger than yours?
21:25 GuShH it is bigger than the standard ones
21:25 GuShH mine is the regular one (forgot the size, is it measured by the table?)
21:25 rue_shop2 depends if the person who measured it was chinese
21:25 GuShH for instance yours most likely has a morse taper
21:25 GuShH the smaller ones are J33 direct
21:26 GuShH but they all have spindles made out of REBAR or equivalent butter non steel.
21:26 rue_shop2 ah, max swing diamieter,
21:26 rue_shop2 so I have 5" from chuck to bar
21:26 GuShH aka "how far away your hands should be"
21:26 rue_shop2 mine dosn't ahve the morse, no
21:26 GuShH before the part spins into your hand.
21:27 GuShH I've had that happen twice, the motor is so weak it stalled
21:27 rue_shop2 yea, I can stall it
21:27 GuShH lol, try that with the old industrials
21:27 GuShH it would rip your hand.
21:27 GuShH specially the geared head ones, scary
21:27 rue_shop2 I had one "gee that was stupid, I should have been wearing a glove, I'm lucky I didn't lose a digit, I better do soemthing about all this blood"
21:28 rue_shop2 nothing like "gee, I better do soemthing before the pain this is going to cause kicks in"
21:28 GuShH what I would get http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/augereadora-de-pie-muy-buena-fincionando-15595-MLA20105579616_062014-F.jpg
21:28 rue_shop2 what were they doing with that...
21:29 GuShH no clue, that is some type of milling cutter
21:29 GuShH oh, broken table.
21:29 GuShH yeah I wouldn't get THAT one, but that old style.
21:29 rue_shop2 not at that distance
21:29 rue_shop2 with that number of table strikes, looks like it served at a school
21:29 GuShH the older machines had more steel/iron in them, just a fact.
21:30 GuShH well it is missing half a table.
21:30 GuShH that explains the low price lol
21:30 rue_shop2 hell of a motor on it
21:30 GuShH they were at least 1HP
21:31 GuShH but the big old used ones cost the same or less than a new chinky one
21:31 GuShH so, no contest there.
21:31 GuShH (a new, smaller unit)
21:32 rue_shop2 I'm blaming you for it taking me... longer than half an hour to wire up the ISP on this avr
21:32 GuShH smaller, but clearly quite a bit more solid than the imports http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-banco-con-pie-220-v-19432-MLA20172283588_092014-F.jpg
21:32 ShH p
21:32 rue_shop2 6 wires, and one of them was done when I started
21:32 rue_shop2 maybe one day I'll set up iron casting
21:33 GuShH woah what's that thing on the pulley http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-de-pie-md-12862-MLA20067524443_032014-F.jpg
21:33 rue_shop2 for now, its tiger torch
21:33 rue_shop2 haha thats a hell of a range
21:33 GuShH clearly more modern unit, do not like.
21:34 rue_shop2 yea alum
21:34 rue_shop2 and its outside
21:34 GuShH yard decoration
21:34 rue_shop2 the next wire is ... SCK
21:35 rue_shop2 and last is miso
21:36 rue_shop2 too much T need to P
21:36 GuShH wat http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-de-pie-pesada-19744-MLA20177195855_102014-F.jpg
21:36 GuShH that is an odd style.
21:36 GuShH I love the quill feed
21:37 GuShH fast and dial
21:37 GuShH geared http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-de-pie-pesada-19739-MLA20177197129_102014-F.jpg
21:37 GuShH oh it is missing the automatic feed... lame.
21:37 GuShH see the worm
21:38 GuShH those were nice for drilling big holes on steel
21:38 GuShH but not much else.
21:40 rue_shop2 yea
21:40 rue_shop2 you know, your not serious until you have a shaper :)
21:41 rue_shop2 the auto feed prolly got broken and they just took it off
21:41 GuShH heheh I almost bought a shaper.
21:41 GuShH ALMOST.
21:41 GuShH http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-de-pie-19579-MLA20172799353_102014-O.jpg that looks nice, but under-powered
21:42 rue_shop2 were you plauged with too much "I can just make one" ?
21:42 GuShH "I have NO SPACE for this huge ass thing"
21:42 rue_shop2 heh
21:42 GuShH the vise was gigantic, seriously you could not lift it by yourself
21:42 rue_shop2 kerchunk, kerchunk, kerchunk,
21:42 ShH wipes
21:43 GuShH there is virtually no commercial use left for a shaper
21:43 rue_shop2 hah, were heavy metal fans
21:43 GuShH other than for shaft keys maybe
21:43 rue_shop2 short ways
21:43 GuShH all the old machinists I know used to own one
21:43 GuShH and you can buy them rather cheap today
21:44 rue_shop2 too bad chipping from oz is so expensive
21:44 GuShH I just don't have space for a shaper
21:44 rue_shop2 yea, my remaining space is actually in the negitives right now
21:44 GuShH crap this one is so cheap... more tears.
21:44 rue_shop2 I have a livingroom that officially has nothing in it, but its full
21:45 GuShH you know my mill has a shaper head attachment
21:45 rue_shop2 I want to make it into a 3d printing room
21:45 GuShH for tiny keyways and such
21:45 rue_shop2 hows that work?
21:45 GuShH attaches to the headstock and it provides up-and down motion for a cutter
21:45 rue_shop2 just holds a static bit?
21:45 rue_shop2 huh
21:45 GuShH well the bit can "clap"
21:45 GuShH it has a clapper box
21:45 rue_shop2 right
21:46 GuShH with a spring loaded screw to set how far it can clap
21:46 rue_shop2 the school I went to had one
21:46 rue_shop2 but its use was before my time
21:46 GuShH oh god http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-bahe-360-con-embrague-y-morsa-20788-MLA20196891556_112014-F.jpg
21:46 GuShH with clutch!
21:47 GuShH shitty restoration though
21:47 rue_shop2 looks like its generally in ok condition
21:47 GuShH http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-marca-huse-300mm-serie-pesada-19871-MLA20178592050_102014-F.jpg
21:48 GuShH oh they all work or are workable, again... space.
21:48 GuShH http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-industrial-11347-MLA20042487526_022014-F.jpg
21:48 GuShH but the vise costs as much as the machine, if you have to buy one
21:48 GuShH http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-mecanica-muy-buena-funcionando-12659-MLA20062813960_032014-O.jpg
21:48 GuShH cute tiny one http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-metalurgica-sur-de-300-mm-mmg-maquinarias--18855-MLA20161124493_092014-F.jpg
21:49 rue_shop2 if they have an extra set of tongs to hold up the front you know its a beast
21:49 GuShH http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/limadora-mecanica-muy-buena-funcionando-12687-MLA20062813921_032014-O.jpg
21:49 GuShH hell yeah.
21:49 rue_shop2 but its like a reprap, if I had one I'm not too sure all what I'd use it for
21:50 GuShH LOL
21:50 GuShH just the odd job, which you can most likely do on a milling machine for 1/10th of the time
21:50 GuShH but not as fun
21:50 rue_shop2 I have 89% of one
21:50 GuShH mill?
21:50 GuShH let's see!
21:50 rue_shop2 oh dont start on mills
21:50 GuShH mine is also 80% ish I need to finish painting
21:50 rue_shop2 I'm really thinking of building small mill
21:50 GuShH I'm looking for a bigger one and I haven't finished the smaller one, I must be nuts.
21:50 GuShH you should do it
21:51 GuShH I watched a video of a local guy who built a lathe from scratch
21:51 GuShH that thing cuts better than the chinese lathes
21:51 GuShH of course, no compromises.
21:51 GuShH all solid stock
21:51 rue_shop2 I was looking at the xy tables, but I hear they are prettymuch junk
21:51 GuShH I beams for the bed
21:51 rue_shop2 the cheap ones
21:51 GuShH the ones for drill presses are crap
21:51 GuShH yeah avoid.
21:52 GuShH they are just xy vises
21:52 rue_shop2 I wonder if there is a small mill I could buy
21:52 GuShH if you aren't afraid of rust, there's always one
21:52 GuShH mills are very expensive here, compared to some types of lathes :(
21:52 rue_shop2 yesno, I'm in an isolated area
21:53 GuShH I'm quite a way from downtown, makes buying stuff harder
21:53 GuShH a universal cincinatti costs quite a few bucks, can't afford
21:54 GuShH specially since they're sold by machine-fags
21:54 GuShH gotta find those local / private deals
21:54 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, whats your cnc again?
21:54 GuShH some dude getting rid of his dad's tools
21:54 GuShH or hubby died and the wife needs cash
21:54 GuShH also real auctions
21:54 GuShH those are the deals.
21:54 orlock or company went broke and somebody saved them from the tip
21:54 GuShH which kinda ends up in auction :p
21:55 GuShH orlock: my last 5 lathes came from that scenario
21:55 orlock GuShH: its how i got my Tek Ghz digital scope
21:55 GuShH :D
21:55 GuShH sweet deals, but they are not very common for me.
21:55 orlock finally found a buyer
21:55 orlock he's comingto inspect tonight
21:56 GuShH :p
21:56 rue_shop2 sherline
21:56 rue_shop2 I'm sure I can make soething better than a sherline
21:56 GuShH a horizontal mill is also a good idea, usually can be had cheap
21:56 GuShH they are not as hot / wanted
21:56 GuShH rue_shop2: yes, you can
21:56 GuShH no doubt.
21:57 GuShH you should start by looking at axles and car/truck bearings
21:57 GuShH in fact see if you can get some axle with the bearings and all setup from an old car
21:57 GuShH that is one solid spindle you can work with.
21:58 GuShH the rest is just solid plate stock, I would avoid structural steel, go solid for everything.
21:58 GuShH on a lathe you can build as you go, not sure on the mill but surely it must be similar
21:59 rue_shop2 OH DUDE
21:59 rue_shop2 I got $100 credit at the wrecker, I didn't know what to get, I should just get metal
21:59 GuShH heh
21:59 GuShH http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/fresadora-horizontal-3-velocidades-bomba-de-lubricacion-12811-MLA20066289682_032014-F.jpg
21:59 GuShH that horizontal is still for sale
21:59 rue_shop2 something small, just a 6x6" would be fine
22:00 GuShH remove all the ghetto crap and it looks like a nice unit
22:00 rue_shop2 I dont do horiz
22:00 rue_shop2 and I only have bench space
22:00 GuShH you gotta think different but it works just as well
22:00 GuShH I'm very tempted to get that thing
22:00 rue_shop2 heh
22:01 GuShH 3 speeds, coolant pump, 1.5hp 3 phase, 500x250mm travels
22:02 GuShH it is one of the smallest I've seen
22:02 GuShH considered N�0 in size
22:03 GuShH the expensive part... cutters.
22:03 GuShH quite hard to find in good condition
22:03 GuShH you can of course fashion a fly-cutter
22:03 GuShH or get an indexed cutter, if you can afford it
22:04 GuShH BUT a good sized lathe could be used on a pinch as a horizontal mill...
22:04 rue_shop2 its sad, the cnc I started... a number of years ago is going obsolete quickly,
22:04 rue_shop2 its not finished yet
22:05 GuShH I would get something like that horizontal and convert it to vertical + cnc
22:05 GuShH but ball screws cost more than the machine itself
22:06 GuShH factor in the cost of an oil pump and delivery system (continous, not just one shot) and then the servos or steppers, drivers, etc.... you spend 3 times the cost of the machine, converting it
22:07 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1060012.jpg
22:07 rue_shop2 :)
22:07 rue_shop2 I did that nice and carefull
22:07 rue_shop2 well 95%+ carefull
22:08 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1050936.jpg
22:08 rue_shop2 :)
22:08 rue_shop2 like a mill you say?
22:08 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1050935.jpg
22:08 rue_shop2 a horizontal one?
22:08 GuShH this is awesome, still on sale http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/fresadora-ruizma-n1-15935-MLA20112001358_062014-F.jpg
22:09 GuShH he would let it go for 1.1k
22:09 rue_shop2 oo its like power everyting
22:09 GuShH yep
22:09 GuShH a real machine.
22:09 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1050889.jpg
22:09 rue_shop2 or a verticle mill?
22:09 GuShH so heavy you need help to remove the head
22:09 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/lathe/p1050888.jpg
22:10 GuShH :p
22:10 rue_shop2 :)
22:10 rue_shop2 I do these things just to see if I can
22:10 ShH loves that style of knee mill, but has no fucking sp
22:10 GuShH of course, that vise... is a JOKE
22:11 GuShH cheapie drillpress import vise on a real knee machine is idiotic.
22:11 rue_shop2 ^^ that vise was made by one of my buddies in his machinist schooling
22:11 rue_shop2 its amazingly handy
22:12 rue_shop2 I need to not melt plastic all over it tho
22:12 GuShH lol
22:12 ShH can't wait to use his angle p
22:12 rue_shop2 I was looking it up, those are EXPENSIVE
22:12 rue_shop2 that little vise he made goes for like $300
22:12 GuShH yeah
22:13 rue_shop2 I am planning on putting a web on that plate, but I need to work out what holes to drill first
22:13 GuShH mine has T slots
22:13 GuShH but I never used it :(
22:13 rue_shop2 yea, I.. cant go there
22:14 GuShH the car or trailer axle is not a bad idea.
22:14 GuShH for a spindle
22:14 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/dscn7659.jpg
22:14 rue_shop2 table of my existing, working cnc
22:14 rue_shop2 at robotics school I used their mill to T the rails
22:15 ShH focuses hard, maybe if he focuses hard enough he can grow some s
22:15 GuShH almost decided on selling the wood lathe
22:15 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/dscn7641.jpg
22:15 rue_shop2 wood lathe!
22:15 rue_shop2 whats that good for?
22:16 deshipu put half the stuff on the ceiling
22:16 rue_shop2 bowls?
22:16 GuShH deshipu: lol, true
22:16 rue_shop2 table legs?
22:16 GuShH or across the room, it happened.
22:16 GuShH you bet ya
22:16 GuShH but I lost interest in wood
22:16 GuShH and it just sits there.
22:16 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc/dscn7641.jpg
22:16 GuShH I don't want to sell it, but I kinda have to.
22:16 rue_shop2 ^^ 4th axis in the back right
22:16 GuShH I could always do wood on that big old thing I'm restoring
22:17 rue_shop2 turn one of the scrap metal lathes into a wood lathe
22:17 rue_shop2 pick one with a ruined bed
22:17 GuShH it isn't "ruined" it just has personality
22:17 ShH g
22:17 GuShH I'll show you later, the other one lol
22:17 rue_shop2 heh, like the 7 thou woop in the middle?
22:17 rue_shop2 I should say 70
22:18 GuShH more like the whole way ground down flat in one portion
22:18 rue_shop2 my china lathe prolly has a 7 thou woop
22:18 GuShH you should see this thing, the headstock is mounted at an angle so they could turn cones
22:18 rue_shop2 the tailstock is bugging me more and more latley
22:18 rue_shop2 its not in the right placve
22:18 GuShH very sad, that lathe, originally, had power feed in both directions, gearbox, etc
22:18 GuShH they wrecked it
22:19 rue_shop2 there is a nut?
22:19 GuShH yes and a leadscrew but shorter than the original
22:19 GuShH (another lathe I'm talking about)
22:19 rue_shop2 oh I mean the shortie
22:19 GuShH not that I know of
22:19 rue_shop2 you cant set the head back?
22:19 GuShH I looked underneath, but maybe there are holes for stuff
22:20 GuShH I could, but I couldn't see how it was mounted yet
22:20 GuShH no obvious "bolts here"
22:20 rue_shop2 1/2hr and i'm not finsihed installed a BUTTON on the BREADBOARD
22:20 GuShH could always kinda-restore it and sell it as-is for a "cnc project"
22:20 Tom_itx stop gabbing so much and get something done!
22:20 GuShH but then I would regret it
22:20 ShH points out it is
22:21 rue_shop2 I wonder what the rack is like from a rack and pinion steering system
22:21 GuShH ?
22:21 Tom_itx like a rack
22:21 GuShH lol
22:21 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, I have the isp and the temp sensor on it
22:21 Tom_itx round with a flat and teeth
22:21 rue_shop2 I wonder how long it is
22:22 GuShH Tom_itx: do you have space for machinery?
22:22 Tom_itx about 1.5 ft
22:22 rue_shop2 ah, its a toothed round bar
22:22 Tom_itx GuShH, not much no
22:22 GuShH why, why don't we all have more space.
22:22 rue_shop2 I have a half acre, no money for the new shop/house
22:22 Tom_itx where'd it all go?
22:23 GuShH half an acre
22:23 rue_shop2 I'm leaning towards a little more living space in the new shop, which makes me wonder if I'll use the hosue at all
22:23 Tom_itx use it as a decoy
22:23 GuShH this is slightly bigger than half an acre, and that means nothing about actual shop space.
22:23 rue_shop2 large geodesic done
22:23 GuShH mine is tiny, don't take that out of context
22:23 rue_shop2 dome
22:23 rue_shop2 keep the water out
22:23 GuShH LOL
22:24 GuShH I think I've seen that somewhere
22:24 GuShH some odd collector dude did just that
22:24 GuShH I need to work out the materials cost for a steel shop
22:25 GuShH I tend to go for overkill, so I could never afford it unless I got some real engineering into it
22:25 GuShH ignoring the concrete slab for now, structurally speaking... what would you use for a 3 car sized garage, for example?
22:25 GuShH long lasting, yet affordable
22:26 Tom_itx metal is too noisy in bad weather
22:26 deshipu refurbished submarine
22:26 Tom_itx also doesn't breathe like wood structures
22:26 GuShH I've thought about shipping containers, but they are not cheap anymore
22:27 GuShH you know I'd be down for two of those, I'm -that- nuts, but they cost a lot now adays.
22:27 GuShH oh also thought about an old bus
22:27 GuShH like the mercedes benz big ones
22:27 ShH
22:27 GuShH you strip it down, reinforce it a little.. you got a nice shop area
22:28 GuShH those (not running) cost as much as the one shipping container around here
22:28 GuShH some of them are all aluminum body
22:29 orlock GuShH: Von Dutch style?
22:29 orlock hah
22:29 orlock "Cars" flashback
22:29 GuShH lol
22:30 GuShH pakistan december 1947 http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/d5ef83331d038d45_large
22:30 GuShH http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/6c56eb00f7105d18_large
22:30 GuShH notice the lathe bed?
22:30 GuShH "Pathan small arms factory where Pakistani is working on a lathe to make barrel of an artillery gun as other men work for one whole month to make a rifle, in village nr. Peshawar."
22:31 GuShH poor kid
22:31 rue_shop2 the 3" drian line for the yard is pretty close to capacity
22:32 rue_shop2 "KEEP YOUR CRANKING CONSISTANT I CANT GET THE CUT SPEED RIGHT"
22:32 orlock http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/11/08/restored-von-dutch-inhabited-gm-transit-bus-to-debut-at-goodguys-southwest-nationals/
22:33 GuShH lol
22:33 GuShH orlock: same idea really, but with manly machinery
22:34 GuShH two of those would be nice.
22:34 GuShH you kinda get free air with 'em!
22:34 GuShH they have at least 4 air tanks in the roof
22:34 rue_shop2 have you thought about oilers like that for the china lathe?
22:34 GuShH I have
22:35 GuShH but I use lithium grease these days
22:35 rue_shop2 how you get it in there?
22:35 GuShH with a greaser
22:35 rue_shop2 I can barely get in the 10wt they say to
22:35 GuShH push / plunge style
22:35 rue_shop2 hmm
22:35 GuShH I was using the 10wt and it was cooking the bearings
22:35 rue_shop2 did it flush out shavings for a week?
22:35 GuShH you can only use motor oil if the oil flows constantly
22:35 GuShH or drips constantly
22:35 rue_shop2 non detergent
22:36 GuShH same deal
22:36 rue_shop2 hmm
22:36 GuShH that thin film won't last long
22:36 orlock GuShH: Didnt you see the machine shop out the back?
22:36 GuShH bearings are always greased unless forced oiled
22:36 GuShH or full bath oil
22:36 GuShH orlock: machineish shop
22:36 GuShH I saw a bandsaw and an old lathe
22:36 orlock yeah, i guess he was into painting as much as machines
22:37 orlock he used to make his own guns and engines
22:37 GuShH nice
22:37 GuShH oh and drill press
22:37 orlock as well as being a raving nazi sympathiser psycho
22:37 GuShH lawl
22:37 ShH looks nervo
22:37 orlock if only the trendies wearing his logo knew
22:38 rue_shop2 oh I want to make a dovetail cutter with a carbide bit holder too
22:38 GuShH 3k http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/colectivos-of-1214-ano9293-oportunidad-18756-MLA20160145431_092014-F.jpg
22:39 ShH chuc
22:39 GuShH claims to be 1992 with only 600.000KM
22:39 GuShH lowest priced one is 2.5k
22:39 GuShH working unit.
22:40 orlock make me a telescope mount!
22:40 GuShH the shipping container (maritime, biggest all steel) costs as much here
22:40 GuShH orlock: me or rue?
22:40 GuShH almost everyone here can make you one, including yourself. quit being a lazy ass.
22:41 GuShH Tom_itx: you say wood would be the way to go? even though it might cost the same or more than steel in the end?
22:42 GuShH wood is not exactly a cheap material around here, pine is the cheapest you can get (out of the "real" woods) but meh.
22:43 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, why does the button go to + anyhow?
22:43 orlock http://assets.blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/11/bus8.jpg http://assets.blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/11/bus7.jpg http://assets.blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/11/bus9.jpg http://assets.blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/11/bus13.jpg
22:44 GuShH just a drill press, bandsaw and lathe
22:44 GuShH not sure it qualifies as a machine shop :/
22:44 GuShH oh and a paint strainer!
22:44 GuShH those older drillpresses were nice
22:45 rue_shop2 Tom_itx,
22:45 GuShH of course, he painted it heh
22:45 rue_shop2 schematic shows button to pin 9, as PD5, but 9 is PB6
22:46 rue_shop2 can I get a source link?
22:47 GuShH rue_shop2: shorty's motor http://imgur.com/BtYRi87
22:47 GuShH yes that is the crate cover/top from the china lathe.
22:47 rue_shop2 torquie
22:47 GuShH 3hp, scary.
22:49 GuShH without a vfd and no speed changes, that is very scary to connect directly to 3 phase on such a machine without clutch
22:49 GuShH not even an idler
22:49 GuShH it will wrap you around.
22:49 rue_shop2 yep
22:50 GuShH can't afford that.
22:50 GuShH I guess I don't have 1930-1940s sized balls.
22:58 just_corey hi
22:58 rue_shop2 hi
22:59 just_corey http://hackaday.com/2014/11/25/announcing-the-trinket-everyday-carry-contest/
23:00 ShH stares at just_c
23:08 GuShH rue_shop2: I guess a 3hp vfd would be nice... you can always limit it to 1 or 2hp (or anything in between) while having all the safety features you want, but.. $$
23:09 GuShH rue_shop2: found the link for the reverse mod http://andysmachines.weebly.com/leadscrew-reverse.html
23:09 GuShH it applies to our lathes
23:11 GuShH I might just try that
23:12 GuShH see also http://andysmachines.weebly.com/new-banjo-dedicated-to-fine-feed.html
23:14 GuShH another mod is to install bearings on each gear
23:22 rue_shop2 hmmm
23:34 rue_shop2 Tom_itx, can i get that firmware?
23:49 just_corey Yeah Tom...