#robotics Logs
Aug 13 2014
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00:26 rue_mohr2 i dont expect to succeed
00:27 Loshki I still can't tell. MrCurious, is he joking?
00:27 rue_mohr2 i have a dream to butter fresh soft bread
00:28 MrCurious is who joking?
00:28 mrdata i suppose these kicks are routine
00:28 mrdata do they help?
00:28 Loshki MrCurious: rue_mohr2, about making butter spreadable
00:28 rue_mohr2 yes
00:28 MrCurious spreading butter just requires a heating element, confined chamber, and small holes to extrude it in rows, as well as a small plunger...
00:28 rue_mohr2 look at all the people talking now
00:29 mrdata the drink pouring robot worked!
00:29 rue_mohr2 I'm sorry if I unjustly kicked you
00:29 rue_mohr2 I do not kick the people that I recognize as speakers
00:29 rue_mohr2 if I kick you on a regular basis, try to say more on a general basis
00:29 mrdata well, i suppose i am obliged to report something on topic when i return
00:29 MrCurious if people can make robots that come out of boxes and flip a switch off when said switch is switched on....
00:29 rue_mohr2 anything would be just fine
00:30 mrdata makers at site3.ca made a drink pouring game, operated by your mind
00:30 mrdata we ran it at absolut's makerfest party, this past saturday
00:30 rue_mohr2 mrdata, do you build?
00:30 mrdata yep
00:30 rue_mohr2 well tell more!
00:30 mrdata the game is like an arm wrestle
00:31 mrdata two opponents each wear blue-tooth EEG headsets
00:31 rue_mohr2 if you can be unforgettable, I wont accidently kick you next time 'round
00:31 mrdata the data is collected by a computer, and fed to the drink pouring machine
00:31 mrdata which runs the game; players have several seconds to defeat the other
00:31 rue_mohr2 who gets what when?
00:32 mrdata the stronger player triggers the mechanism to pour a drink for the other
00:32 rue_mohr2 hahah
00:32 rue_mohr2 what kinda sensors?
00:32 mrdata which, at upcoming parties might be ghost pepper tequila
00:33 mrdata EEG units measure voltage between four or five points on the forehead, and the ears
00:33 rue_mohr2 yea, so electrodes, amps, do tell more
00:33 rue_mohr2 diy, commercial?
00:33 mrdata diy
00:33 mrdata oh, commercial EEG rather
00:34 rue_mohr2 cool, what are the signal levels typicsally like?
00:34 mrdata we tried several brands
00:34 mrdata microvolts are measured
00:34 mrdata the party space was somewhat noisy in the RF spectrum, and one of the units had trouble connecting
00:35 mrdata but, once we solved that, we ran the game a few dozen times
00:36 rue_mohr2 flourescent lights are killer
00:36 mrdata mhm
00:36 mrdata maybe that was it, idk
00:36 rue_mohr2 get a wand for a phone wire tracer
00:37 mrdata the guys took the units outside the building to get them to connect; then once connected, they remained so
00:37 rue_mohr2 its an electrostatic pickuo
00:37 rue_mohr2 do you know any cheats?
00:37 mrdata cheats for what
00:38 mrdata the game?
00:38 rue_mohr2 yea
00:38 mrdata oh, the goal is always to make sure the pretty girl gets the free drink
00:38 rue_mohr2 ahahha ofcourse
00:38 mrdata but we did not install any cheats
00:38 mrdata there was a manual override, if all else failed
00:39 mrdata but it pretty-well worked
00:39 rue_mohr2 cool
00:39 rue_mohr2 any beer throwing bots?
00:39 mrdata there was no beer at this party,
00:39 mrdata only vodka
00:40 rue_mohr2 australlia or russia?
00:40 mrdata absolut must have given out a couple thousand free drinks
00:40 mrdata canada
00:40 rue_mohr2 haha there's a twist
00:40 rue_mohr2 not bc i recon
00:40 mrdata it's not my drink, i didnt have any alcohol at all
00:40 mrdata but fun to make the thing work
00:41 mrdata ontario
00:41 rue_mohr2 yea nothing really cool happens on this end
00:41 mrdata it was a very big party
00:41 mrdata venue holds 600
00:42 rue_mohr2 but we might be the first end to start killing politicians
00:42 mrdata 4000 people rsvpd they were coming
00:42 mrdata the line up was down the block
00:42 rue_mohr2 damnit, I fogot the cheese, I'm gonna have to have a 3rd burrito
00:45 mrdata my next project may just be some experiments with microwave cavities
00:45 mrdata we'll see.. i have a lot to study
00:46 mrdata we will cook your burrito as we fly to mars
00:46 rue_mohr2 see my robot arm?
00:46 mrdata no?
00:47 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060552.jpg
00:47 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/
00:47 rue_mohr2 i been way too verbose with images
00:48 rue_mohr2 i suppose i could make a slideshow html...
00:49 mrdata mhm
00:49 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060599.jpg
00:49 mrdata with text explaining each image
00:49 rue_mohr2 hmm
00:50 rue_mohr2 i'm in the habit of drawing what i want 1:1 and using it as a template
00:52 GargantuaSauce ya do that
00:52 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060601.jpg
00:52 rue_mohr2 see hwo easy that was?
00:52 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm4/p1010546b.jpg
00:52 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm4/p1010782.jpg
00:55 rue_mohr2 one day someone will ask me something
00:56 mrdata what does your robot arm do?
00:56 rue_mohr2 every idea I came up with required more arms
00:57 rue_mohr2 so I'm making a bunch of them
00:57 mrdata we use the same servo in the drink pouring mechanism
00:58 rue_mohr2 geared steppers or the hobby servos?
00:59 mrdata http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060446.jpg
00:59 rue_mohr2 ah yes
00:59 rue_mohr2 $10 ea
00:59 mrdata these motors may benefit from an upgrade
00:59 rue_mohr2 I bought 20 more servos, I got them for $7.50 and $3.40 ea
00:59 mrdata one of the gears is plastic
01:00 rue_mohr2 different brands and things
01:00 rue_mohr2 yea
01:00 rue_mohr2 have to not stress them out too much
01:00 mrdata a previous rev of the robot stripped that plastic gear
01:00 rue_mohr2 too much force on them
01:00 mrdata built-in failure if you exceed mfr spec
01:00 rue_mohr2 I'm sure even if you meet it
01:00 mrdata maybe
01:01 rue_mohr2 I made a spline punch for those
01:01 rue_mohr2 the hitec
01:01 mrdata but, if you were to use a metal case, instead of plastic, and replace that gear, you could probably run the motor at a much higher voltage
01:01 rue_mohr2 those gears on them are actually splined in
01:03 rue_mohr2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/dscn8315_splinepunch.jpg
01:03 rue_mohr2 iirc 5mm hole and push that thru
01:03 rue_mohr2 there are alignment parts not shown
01:04 mrdata i suppose so
01:44 mrdata ah, photos of Pour Courtesy on location
01:44 mrdata https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152392430733640&set=a.10152392430188640.1073741855.508818639&type=1&theater
01:45 mrdata hope this is visible to all
19:28 rue_mohr2 no more activity after the cleanout eh?
19:28 rue_mohr2 back up to 5x tho
19:33 Tom_itx 5x what?
19:41 rue_mohr2 50-some-odd
19:41 rue_mohr2 peoples
20:18 anunnaki whats with this kicking?
20:20 anunnaki rue_shop2: ^
21:41 Tom_itx operated on a ps3
21:41 Tom_itx i wonder if the standard video out is a different chip from the HDMI
21:42 Tom_itx video out quit but HDMI works
21:42 Tom_itx any clues you silly gamers?
22:04 rue_shop2 anunnaki,
22:04 rue_shop2 I been cleaning out the channel fluff
22:04 rue_shop2 sorry if I kicked you , but I kicked anyone who I dont see talking on a regular basis
22:04 rue_shop2 anunnaki, the solution is for you to talk about things more
22:04 anunnaki rue_shop2: oh.
22:05 anunnaki im a noob so i like to read your guys chats to learn a bit more
22:05 rue_shop2 I'm just trying to skim off people who aren't really here
22:05 rue_shop2 too much of that seems to kill a channel
22:05 rue_shop2 anunnaki, well talk with us about what you want to do,
22:05 rue_shop2 and any ideas you come up with on how you might do it
22:06 rue_shop2 you dont have to listen to what we suggest of even try it
22:07 rue_shop2 anunnaki, so what DO you want to make?
22:07 anunnaki well im not really into robotics.. but thought it would be cool to try to get into it.. right now a project id like to build is a very big quad-copter
22:07 rue_shop2 a 12' mecha? an electric water gun?
22:07 rue_shop2 ok
22:07 rue_shop2 2 meter square?
22:07 anunnaki but is the fluff really causing harm to the channel?
22:08 rue_shop2 the relation is not known
22:08 anunnaki i mean.. im in channels with over a 1000 members.. only 20 people talk
22:08 rue_shop2 but just before a channel dies, it gets filled with lots of people who say nothing
22:08 rue_shop2 examine #linuxhelp
22:08 rue_shop2 back in 2001 it was one of the most busy channels
22:08 anunnaki i always though right before a channel dies.. its filled with very few people who say nothing :D
22:08 rue_shop2 now its dead
22:09 anunnaki yeah well now theres ##linux
22:09 rue_shop2 no, dead channels have lots of people who never say anything
22:09 anunnaki too many of the same channels providing the same help
22:09 rue_shop2 dont know how it works yet
22:09 rue_shop2 its part of who you have in the channel
22:10 rue_shop2 if yo uhave 1 or 2 people activly doing projects, it stirrs up more life
22:10 anunnaki #digispark, #electronics #msp430 #43oh etc.. all kinda talk about the same stuff.. but i feel ya.. i would be worried about the channel dying as well
22:10 rue_shop2 I seem to be the only one working on a project right now
22:10 rue_shop2 did you see my robot arm?
22:10 anunnaki no sir
22:11 GargantuaSauce no because you kicked him weeks ago
22:11 anunnaki but would love to see
22:11 GargantuaSauce dumpass
22:11 anunnaki lol
22:11 anunnaki yeah!
22:11 rue_shop2 so, here isa question, if you been haning out in the channel for, say a year, do you ever read what IS said?
22:12 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060552.jpg
22:12 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060553.jpg
22:12 rue_shop2 you can browse up and down the directory for later and earlier images
22:13 anunnaki rue_shop2: i try to.. but im also in many other channels.. and im always busy with projects for the day.. mostly building operating systems on new drives, and my new project, building an led light panel/grow light. then bulding a brewery that is all automated with my arduinos
22:13 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/ its a photo build log, prettymuch
22:13 anunnaki so i tend to watch my hilight window
22:13 rue_shop2 see, tell, ask ,a dn involve us int hat stuff
22:13 rue_shop2 ask us retorical questions while you work
22:13 rue_shop2 like what to call a variable
22:14 rue_shop2 after all, variable naming is the hardest part of coding
22:14 e_shop2 tweeks his space bar ti
22:14 anunnaki variable naming the hardest part?
22:15 rue_shop2 yup
22:15 anunnaki i guess.. if you have a lot of variables...
22:15 rue_shop2 compared to what to name variables, everything else is a walk in the park
22:15 rue_shop2 provided your not using single character variable names
22:15 rue_shop2 c, x, y, i, j, k, foo, oh, thats 3 letters...
22:15 anunnaki i just name them by their function...
22:16 anunnaki if its looking say.. for a value.. for say.. someones age.. the int age. seems fine
22:16 rue_shop2 void SimotaniouslyLinearlyInterpolateMultiAxis(axies2_t * this) {
22:16 rue_shop2 thats my grandest function name
22:17 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm7/pc_software/interlin2.c
22:17 anunnaki lol
22:17 rue_shop2 anunnaki, so you wouldn't consider the name, say, youth
22:17 GargantuaSauce that is atrocious
22:17 anunnaki well i can see... robotics variable names arent pretty
22:17 rue_shop2 half empty, your x years old, not x years young...
22:19 rue_shop2 thats my linear interpolator, I need to work out a spline interpolation alg
22:19 rue_shop2 I dont know how to do splines yet
22:20 anunnaki nice arm rue_shop2 you should give it a name like how Tony Staerk gave his robotic arm assistant a name
22:20 rue_shop2 heh,
22:20 GargantuaSauce fister roboto
22:20 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/ so far, the arms are just called armX
22:21 GargantuaSauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDekhoeEoCc
22:22 rue_shop2 arm7 is similar, and its 'done'
22:22 Loshki rue_shop2: you do know simotanious is not a word, right?
22:23 Hyratel1 "Butterfingers"
22:23 GargantuaSauce and the plural of axis is axes
22:23 Loshki and the plural of forum is fora, but just try using it...
22:23 anunnaki hah
22:23 rue_shop2 haha
22:23 rue_shop2 lots of things aren't words, but I say them and people understand me
22:24 rue_shop2 thats how new words are made ya know
22:24 anunnaki no
22:24 Loshki rue_shop2: cute. Ya ever hear of humpty-dumpty?
22:24 anunnaki you can thank rap music for that
22:25 anunnaki then again.. i can totally see an engineer building a robotic arm in his basement.. wondering why the hell that damn thing isnt "twerking"
22:25 Loshki anunnaki: oh, good one!
22:28 anunnaki rue_shop2: your arm looks like it would make for one fun unmanned rc potato gun shooter
22:28 GargantuaSauce http://t.co/bdugLp3bfg related
22:28 anunnaki my mother always warned me about downloading files from stangers :p
22:29 anunnaki .win 28
22:29 anunnaki ^ im notorious for that
22:30 rue_shop2 i MADE A 480 square foot shop for making robots
22:30 Loshki I get half the kitchen table, in the evenings, if I'm lucky...
22:30 anunnaki if you live i cali by the beach.. ill be more than happy to assist you as an apprentice..
22:31 anunnaki who knows. maybe ill be the next Tesla..
22:31 Loshki rue_shop2: got any pics?
22:31 anunnaki i use a bucket lid.. on the side of my bedroom
22:32 anunnaki nothing but a soldering iron, wire strippers.. and some elbow grease
22:32 rue_shop2 pics of which?
22:32 rue_shop2 the shop?
22:32 Loshki anunnaki: your own bucket lid? Sheer luxury. Ten of us had to share a bucket lid when I was a lad...
22:32 Loshki rue_shop2: yes, the shop & anything in it you want to show us...
22:32 anunnaki haha.. back when bucket lids were built to last..
22:33 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/shop/
22:34 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/shop/p1030330.jpg
22:34 Loshki anunnaki: the kids must wonder what the hell we're going on about :-)
22:34 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/shop/p1030166.jpg
22:34 anunnaki Loshki: just for you :) http://imgur.com/pkRZw2D
22:36 Loshki anunnaki: that's a big bucket...
22:36 anunnaki my garage is a bit messy and too hot to work in.. and the kitchen table is too close to distractions.
22:37 anunnaki Loshki: yeah.. well i told the bucket dealer i needed something i can build robots on and hold my coffee... so.. he suggested the 6 Gal fermenter
22:38 Loshki rue_shop2: that's a great space. How long did it take? Are you going into business?
22:38 Loshki anunnaki: :-)
22:39 rue_shop2 no business, just hobby
22:39 rue_shop2 I think it took about 2 yeras
22:40 rue_shop2 ok Ihave like an hour to get anything done
22:40 anunnaki rue_shop2: ahh screw it.. crack open a beer
22:41 rue_shop2 no I'm gonna spot weld these togethor
22:41 anunnaki better yet.. build that robot arm so it can crack open a beer for you
22:41 rue_shop2 http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm8/p1060601.jpg
22:42 rue_shop2 iirc, arm 6 is big enough
22:42 rue_shop2 arm5 is quite capable of crushing cans
22:43 anunnaki rue_shop2: thats a nice shop.. looks like the soffit is a bit shorter on the front than around the sides.. the 45 isnt exactly 45'd. but they did a good job lining up the corner lines :) i build homes between semesters
22:44 rue_shop2 the last image isn't really up to date
22:44 rue_shop2 there was trim that went on after
22:44 Hyratel1 rue_mohr2, how do you fab your gears, or do you buyt them?
22:44 anunnaki the f-channel is what i was referring to
22:44 anunnaki if they used f=channel some guys just use j-channel
22:46 rue_shop2 wow, too much oxide on the zinc
22:46 rue_shop2 I pull them out of copiers
22:46 rue_shop2 where is my sufuric...
22:49 rue_shop2 yay for keeping batttery acid in stock!
22:50 rue_shop2 speaking of...
22:53 anunnaki speaking of.. i need a deep cycle battery for a solar panel system...
22:53 Hyratel1 how big of a battery
22:54 Hyratel1 walmart has high WH/$ ones
22:54 anunnaki harbor frieght sells one for $75.. but i dont trust a battery from there
22:54 Hyratel1 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hAHfLJN0cwo0ZgO68Hn3EXThfr4vXLOB_4a85thiPAM/edit#gid=0
22:55 anunnaki Hyratel1: not sure.. so far the guides i read.. just say.. you need a deep cycle battery.. and thats it.. not details on what to shop for.. so i havent bought one yet.. because.. i saw walmart has a crap load of different kinds.. nice little ones for grasscutters and boats.. which werent too bad priced.. but wasnt sure if they would work
22:56 Hyratel1 well, what do you want to *do* with it?
22:56 Hyratel1 that'll define how much solar and how much battery you get
22:56 anunnaki Hyratel1: charge it up with a solar array.. then use it to power my hydroponics system's lights
22:56 Hyratel1 since this is for a stationary installation, WH/Lb is less critical
22:56 anunnaki so far im running about 150 watts
22:57 anunnaki but thats going to increase once i buy more lights, and pumps
22:57 Hyratel1 so you want about 36h of battery for that
22:57 Hyratel1 that'll be about 5400 WH of storage
22:58 anunnaki but Im going to be pushing 400Watts when i buy the other lights..
22:59 Hyratel1 that's the nice thing about lead acid systems. as long as the batteries are all in decent enough shape, you can justrack more in parallel
22:59 anunnaki i still have to build the solar panel. so not sure how many watts im going to be able to afford with that.
23:00 Hyratel1 the reason I said three days of battery is because you don't want to run out of juice int he middle of aa string of cloudy days\
23:02 anunnaki Hyratel1: yeah good thinking. where i live.. it gets like that too.. i live right in a valley of the appalachians
23:03 Hyratel1 http://www.harborfreight.com/30-amp-solar-charge-controller-68738.html
23:03 Hyratel1 question though
23:03 Hyratel1 why do you need/want solar for growlights?
23:03 Hyratel1 it's an expensive up front cost
23:03 anunnaki indoor grow system
23:03 Hyratel1 why not run it straight from the grid
23:03 anunnaki yes it is.. but after a couple years...
23:04 Hyratel1 after a couple years you'll have to replace the batteries
23:05 anunnaki my electric bill is pretty high as it is.. i cant imagine adding more to it.. plus i always wanted to get into solar.. I Just like knowing im not dependent on some company supplying me power
23:05 rue_shop2 ok its spot welded but grrr
23:05 Hyratel1 a solar system will easily run you up into nearly 1000$ for a small system
23:06 rue_shop2 once upon a time one of the tips in my spot welder came loose and jused into the jaw
23:06 rue_shop2 its a lot of copper that will have to be replaced at some point
23:06 anunnaki Hyratel1: for a powerful small system..
23:06 Hyratel1 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hAHfLJN0cwo0ZgO68Hn3EXThfr4vXLOB_4a85thiPAM/edit#gid=0
23:07 Hyratel1 scroll to the bottom and look at the numbers there
23:08 anunnaki ERROR: redirect loop for: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hAHfLJN0cwo0ZgO68Hn3EXThfr4vXLOB_4a85thiPAM/edit?pref=2&pli=1
23:08 anunnaki hmm gonna have to try my other browser
23:08 Hyratel1 for a 150W, 36 h system, you're looking at 5400 WH
23:08 Hyratel1 woops, sec
23:08 Hyratel1 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hAHfLJN0cwo0ZgO68Hn3EXThfr4vXLOB_4a85thiPAM/edit?usp=sharing
23:08 Hyratel1 try that one
23:09 Hyratel1 the numbers relevant to your case are WH/$, WH and Price
23:10 Hyratel1 WH/$ is WattHours Per dollar - this is the storage vs cost effectiveness of the battery
23:10 anunnaki Hyratel1: btw those solar controller can be built for a couple bucks at radio shack
23:10 Hyratel1 so 5400/1440 WH
23:10 Hyratel1 you'd need four of those big ones
23:11 Hyratel1 that's $350 already
23:11 Hyratel1 do tell.
23:11 anunnaki honestly thats not too bad
23:12 anunnaki right now my system costs over $10/month
23:12 anunnaki and this is a bare minimum system.. that is low wattage
23:13 Hyratel1 you'll need to run an Intercept graph on the cost of a solar system against the grid power cost
23:13 anunnaki once i add a 300 watt light.. my electric bill is going to jump significantly
23:14 anunnaki besides.. it gives me somethign to do..
23:14 anunnaki nice to say i have it hooked up to solar panels..
23:14 Hyratel1 if you have the spare cash in hand for it. i say go for it
23:14 anunnaki yeah it may take years to pay for itself.. but hey.. thats clean energy
23:14 Hyratel1 what I'd personally suggest though
23:15 Hyratel1 is set it up for just augmenting the grow lights during peak grid cost hours
23:15 Hyratel1 this would signifigantly reduce your battery costs up front
23:15 Hyratel1 you can always expand it
23:17 anunnaki not the one i read but heres an example for a diy solar controller.. this guy is in india.. so there would be some edits to make since their houses are wired with differently.. i dont think they have 120/240 there
23:17 anunnaki http://www.instructables.com/id/ARDUINO-SOLAR-CHARGE-CONTROLLER-PWM/
23:17 Hyratel1 I like the crayon front label
23:17 anunnaki i know right? lol
23:18 Hyratel1 if you have the upfront cash in hand.. I'd say fo for it
23:19 anunnaki well i do my growing.. during daylight hours. so i do get hit with peak rates
23:19 anunnaki well. i dont now.. but i will
23:19 anunnaki after i buy my new flatscreen
23:19 anunnaki so in about a month.
23:20 anunnaki buying the tv in two weeks
23:20 Hyratel1 keep me posted, I'm inerested :D
23:20 anunnaki i do buy little bits as i go along though..
23:20 anunnaki i got most of the parts for the controller
23:20 Hyratel1 then you might want to start gathering up the parts for the charge controller
23:20 Hyratel1 aha ok
23:22 anunnaki radioshack doesnt carry crap anymore... so i have to order a couple items online.. but in no hurry.. waiting on to buy the expensive items first.. the batteries.. after that.. thers cheap colar cells online.. especially if i buy the damaged ones from china..
23:22 Hyratel1 fair enough
23:22 Hyratel1 but decide what you want to do first before you decide on a battery
23:22 Hyratel1 do you want to power ONLY during peak hours?
23:23 Hyratel1 and what hours do your lgihts run
23:23 anunnaki yeah i will. im going to have the total wattage figured out.. and how long im going to run the system for..
23:23 GargantuaSauce whats the point of running grow lights off solar
23:23 GargantuaSauce put your pot plants by a south-facing window e_e
23:24 anunnaki like i.e. air pumps will run 24/7, lights will run 18 hours one 6 hours off.... .. ill have the totall kw/h figured
23:24 anunnaki lol
23:24 anunnaki well im building an led panel right now.. so it will be low wattage
23:25 anunnaki that will suffice for about two months.. but after that i need to start blooming the plants and requires me to buy a HPS light.. 400w. :D
23:25 anunnaki 12 hours on 12 hours off
23:25 anunnaki simulate daylight savings time
23:26 anunnaki GargantuaSauce: you can only put pot plants in windows for so long..once they get too big.. you cant fit them in a window anymore
23:27 anunnaki err i mean.. tomato plants
23:27 anunnaki tbh.. my jalapeno plants grow better under my lights than they do in the sunlight.. i have no idea why.. maybe its the soil
23:28 anunnaki then again.. i never grew a plant more stubborn than an jalapeno palnt
23:28 anunnaki plant
23:28 anunnaki anywhooo
23:29 anunnaki i hope rue_shop2 doesnt keep kickig me now that i spoke for once :D
23:30 anunnaki i need to get back to building a minimal linux OS so i can learn to write my own initramfs for my new ZFS with LUKS encyption on systemd
23:30 anunnaki Cheers!
23:39 rue_shop2 hopefully I'll remember him next time
23:40 rue_shop2 anunnaki, if you talk often I will remmeber
23:45 anunnaki ill try to participate more. Though im nowhere knowledgable with robotics..
23:45 anunnaki but thats what im here for.. to learn from the masters :D
23:46 anunnaki but gotta get back to compiling this kernel.. have a good night all.
23:47 rue_shop2 it dosn't matter what you know about robots
23:47 rue_shop2 night