#robotics Logs
Jun 15 2014
#robotics Calendar
00:00 GargantuaSauce they are used to transmit force but not torque obviously
00:01 GargantuaSauce they're vital to a few parallel designs, such as the delta
00:01 GargantuaSauce no direct actuation though afaik
00:01 GuShH are they not using hobby parts for that..
00:02 GargantuaSauce if it's a hobby design, sure
00:02 GuShH traxxas parts and steel balls?
00:02 GargantuaSauce if it's an industrial machine costing a significant fraction of a million dollars, they're probably going to be using something a bit better
00:03 GargantuaSauce but yeah for a rostock/kossel reprap or whatever, it's gonna be rc ball joints
00:03 GuShH http://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/3-ntb/tech-briefs/mechanics-and-machinery/2273
00:03 GuShH hmm
00:03 GargantuaSauce woah
00:04 GargantuaSauce nifty.
00:06 GargantuaSauce i just ordered a bunch of the hobby joints actually
00:08 GargantuaSauce going to try out a magnetic design also for increased range of motion
00:12 GargantuaSauce a little teflon cup with a magnet embedded in it and a steel ball with a tapped hole should provide something like 260 degrees
00:13 GargantuaSauce way more than you get from a captive ball
00:14 GargantuaSauce though obviously the maximum force is limited by the magnet
01:11 rue_more I made a new kind of gearbox for me
01:18 rue_more http://www.lighthousepub.ca/ <-- I'm annoyed cause I went out of my way to fix their phone system for a extremely reduced price cause they didn't have any money and they wont pay for it
01:33 MrCurious just back from seeing the remake of Groundhog Day
01:33 MrCurious way better than the origional, and WAY more guns
02:20 rue_more apparently my power supply firmware already has the encoder stuff written in, I just have to connect the encoders
02:20 MrCurious for your printer?
02:21 rue_more I'm making a bench power supply
02:21 rue_more usb controllable
02:21 rue_more dual output (but shared ground)
02:21 rue_more ( -, common, whatever)
02:22 Curious nods knowingly, but
02:23 MrCurious so usb controlable variable voltage power supply. very cool. but why does it need encoders, or is it just usb control of some motors to turn analog knobs on a standard bench?
02:23 GargantuaSauce encoders as a user interface, not feedback
02:24 rue_more http://hackaday.io/project/296-Bench-power-supply
02:24 MrCurious solid state no analog would be cooler (but i am funny that way)
02:25 rue_more you mean pure pure digital?
02:25 MrCurious yup
02:25 rue_more I dont trust avrs to manage power supply feedback speeds
02:26 rue_more but honestly, all the challanges I'm having, I'm getting tempted to have a tiny13/etc control the pwm
02:26 e_more goes down this road for a
02:26 GargantuaSauce yeah a micro with faster clock->more pwm resolution and better ADCs would be preferable
02:26 rue_more 20Khz pwm, 16 bits
02:26 MrCurious seems like the games in brazil are way better when it rains. when its not raining its hot and humid, and none of the players can be arsed to give a fuck
02:27 MrCurious perhaps use a arm m0 for more speed?
02:27 GargantuaSauce i'd probably use an m1, stm32f103 or so
02:28 MrCurious yeah stm32
02:28 GargantuaSauce or perhaps the f3 because it has fancy builtin opamps and the best adcs i think
02:28 rue_more 1.3Ghz?
02:28 GargantuaSauce wat
02:29 rue_more 20Khz pwm, 16 bits resolution
02:29 rue_more I think thats a 1.3Ghz clock
02:29 MrCurious wonder if there are cheap off the shelf usb controlled bench supplies
02:30 rue_more nope
02:30 Curious looks at GargantuaSauce for his aliexpress m
02:30 rue_more cheap and usb controlled dotn go togethor with bench power supplies
02:31 MrCurious worth asking. GargantuaSauce has found me deals before :)
02:31 GargantuaSauce yeah no havent found anything like that for cheap
02:32 MrCurious ordered a $7 BT ODB-II code reaader today
02:32 MrCurious regretting the harbor freight $100 one now
02:34 rue_more is there a $1 ttl level isolator capable of handling 115200 baud .... waveforms :)
02:35 rue_more the PC819 (?) isolators I have are too slow
02:36 rue_more PC817
02:41 MrCurious rue did you reccomend this to me http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6121710145.html
02:41 MrCurious s/reccomend/show/
02:41 rue_more there were a few, dont know if that was the one
02:41 rue_more it looks like the general theme
02:41 rue_more did you get one?
02:42 rue_more I need a dig scope, even a slow one
02:42 MrCurious yeah, awaiting shipping
02:43 MrCurious i want to see PWM on it
02:57 rue_more ok I bought some 6N137 to isolate the ttl serial for the bench power supply
02:57 rue_more thye say its good for 10Mbaud
03:00 rue_more 20Mhz, gee, thats fast enough to use for the pwm
03:00 rue_more hmmmmmm
03:25 MrCurious ivory coast OMG
12:44 rue_more http://www.priority1design.com.au/wiegand_protocol.jpg
12:44 rue_more hahah data 1 data 0
12:44 rue_more hahahahah
13:00 emma I wish i had the skills to build a robot.
13:05 rue_more you do, your just not willing to try
13:27 robotustra_ :)
13:27 robotustra_ who is emma
13:27 robotustra_ why do you need a robot?
13:27 humerusj robotustra_: because robots are fun?
13:32 robotustra_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_1apYo6-Ow
13:32 robotustra_ humerusj: yes, it's fun from the beginning
13:37 humerusj robotustra_: indeed
13:43 robotustra_ humerusj: did you come already to the stage when it's already not fun?
14:02 humerusj robotustra_: not at all, I still believe it is interesting.
14:02 humerusj I feel as though high school robotics will never lose it's glory
14:08 rue_more ok I'm gonna get the hydraulic hose I need for the sanoma electric conversion and hook the encoders up to the new bench power supply
15:17 rue_shop2 or not
15:24 MrCurious http://digg.com/video/short-animation-about-an-adorable-but-self-obsessed-robot
16:13 MrCurious GuShH: one hour until argentina vs bosnia....
16:16 GuShH MrCurious: and?
16:17 GuShH argentina wins 2-1
16:17 MrCurious will argentina win or get pasted?
16:17 GuShH wanna bet?
16:17 MrCurious nah
16:17 GuShH I'm good with that kind of stuff, but I don't usually bet.
16:17 MrCurious i am hoping its a 5-0 argentina win
16:17 GuShH I'll let you boast if they lose :)
16:17 GuShH lol they're not that good
16:18 GuShH and if I know corruption well enough, brasil will get the world cup
16:18 MrCurious i really enjoy totally inbalanced matches :)
16:19 ShH is looking at cold
16:19 GuShH I don't watch football
16:19 rue_shop2 hmm mechanical encoders suck
16:20 GargantuaSauce for knobs?
16:20 GuShH No, I'm the only knob.
16:20 GuShH For not having to use the chop saw every time I want some stock cut.
16:21 GuShH It's noisy, messes up the properties of the metal with the excess heat, etc.
16:21 GuShH and much dirtier.
16:21 GuShH it's fine for structural stuff
16:21 GuShH not so much for solid stock.
16:22 GuShH looking at the used market, again... I don't want a chinese one
16:23 ShH doesn't mind restoring an old
16:23 GuShH http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/serrucho-hidraulico-9852-MLA20022382610_122013-F.jpg
16:23 GuShH I love that style.
16:23 GuShH a bit on the small size, but nice.
16:23 GuShH size/side
16:24 GuShH it's got a 3 phase motor but you can easily swap that out, or get a vfd.
16:24 GuShH looked at the new stuff in person.. it's all stamped thin sheet metal, flimsy.
16:25 GuShH nothing some paint and love can't fix
16:27 MrCurious what is/was that
16:27 MrCurious what is/was that
16:27 MrCurious oops, was not scrolled all the way
16:30 GuShH old reciprocating saw, nicer than a horizontal bandsaw in some ways.
16:30 GuShH you can use regular blades or the heavy duty ones
16:30 GuShH both readily available.
16:30 GuShH bandsaws are a pain in that regard.
16:31 GuShH sure they're faster with a proper bimetal saw but who cares.
16:31 GuShH they're much bigger.
16:31 GuShH this is the one I went to see http://www.harborfreight.com/horizontal-vertical-metal-cutting-bandsaw-93762.html they're absolute trash, complete crap.
16:31 GuShH you can sneeze and the stand will buckle. everything is stamped sheet metal
16:32 GuShH the blade it comes with is also utter crap, and replacing it takes about 10 times longer than a reciprocating kind.
16:33 ShH notes the blades are not 10 bucks here, they're 80 b
16:33 GuShH I'd be willing to say they're more dangerous, or can be more dangerous, when the blade snaps
16:33 MrCurious may have to add that to my collection :)
16:33 GuShH get an old real one
16:35 GuShH MrCurious: just set the stock to the desired depth, clamp, start, walk away... it'll stop once it finishes cutting (in theory, those usually require tweaking for them to actually stop since they're assembled by drunk babies)
16:35 GuShH match started yet? I'm not even watching it
16:36 MrCurious dont know. watching other shit while time passes
16:36 GuShH two kinds I know of... hydraulic and gravity fed
16:36 GuShH also dry and wet
16:36 MrCurious yeah i will need one once i graduate to steel working
16:36 GuShH works for almost all metals
16:37 MrCurious i have a band saw, miter saw and table saw. i am covered for aluminum working
16:37 GuShH probably brass as well
16:38 GuShH hey no reason why the bandsaw shouldn't work with steel, unless it's a mini one
16:38 GuShH but all of those require an operator
16:38 GuShH you have to be there for the entire process.
16:39 MrCurious i think its a 6 inch of exposed blade
16:39 MrCurious but steel dulled the hell out of the blade. i need to replace the blade now
16:39 GuShH probably mostly meant for woodworking
16:39 GuShH get a bimetal blade
16:39 GuShH starrett or better brand
16:39 GuShH trust meeeee.
16:40 GuShH and also use cutting oil when dealing with ferrous materials like that
16:40 GuShH never dry
16:40 GuShH problem I've had with any kind of HSS-only blade is chipping, very easy to chip teeth out
16:40 GuShH and that causes vibration and crappy cuts
16:40 GuShH risk of digging in too
16:41 ShH wonders if rue would rather fabricate his own
16:41 GuShH if you think about it... it's mostly rotational to linear motion, you need a strong linear guide and a bunch of bearings, plus the frame. I'm sure one could rue it.
16:42 GuShH MrCurious: anyway the old ones are usually 14 inch
16:44 GuShH which is plenty big for most uses.
16:44 GuShH (part of the reason why they had to be cast iron is due to the big stock you could feed them, usually very heavy stock)
16:45 MrCurious true
16:45 ShH looks at smaller ones for the time b
16:51 rue_shop2 this becn supply
16:51 rue_shop2 I'm using encoders for the controls
16:51 rue_shop2 you can push them in
16:51 robotustra_ debating?
16:51 rue_shop2 so I'm thinking that they are in fine mode (.05unit steps) normally and when you push them in they do 1 unit steps?
16:52 rue_shop2 does that seem logical?
16:53 rue_shop2 .05 units/step is 1 unit per rev
16:53 rue_shop2 push to jog?
16:53 rue_shop2 I wonder if .05A per step is small enough for a bench supply
16:55 GuShH Tom_itx: do you have a spring center?
16:55 GuShH for tapping
16:55 GuShH rather annoyingly I can't find the plans, just half of them here (I know it doesn't matter, but why make a post?) http://www.projectsinmetal.com/forum/metalworking-projects/free-metalworking-project-plans-spring-center-metal-lathe-mill/
16:56 rue_shop2 maybe find current should be by 10ma steps
16:57 GuShH meh. I'll just wing it
17:21 MrCurious GOAL!
17:21 MrCurious 2 minutes in, argentina 1 - 0
17:52 GuShH MrCurious: 1-0?
17:52 GuShH bah come on
17:52 MrCurious yeah, now its 25 minutes in, no score change
17:52 MrCurious 35
17:54 ShH was going to rant but it was going to end into a racist f
17:55 GuShH the only two brownies in our team are always the ones causing trouble... and it's a good representation of what happens in my country
17:57 Tom_itx or possibly any country?
17:58 GuShH no comment
17:58 GuShH just an observation
17:58 GuShH also I think I got the next best thing to football... replace players with politicians, replace ball with bag of money
17:58 GuShH goal keepers are bankers
17:58 GuShH random pickups are allowed, such as firearms and swords.
17:59 GuShH YEAH!!!!
17:59 MrCurious i think the argentina uniform looks like the same one that the nazi's put on the people in their death camps... white and light blue vertical stripes
17:59 GuShH hahah
18:00 MrCurious did the nazi's come to argentina after the war?
18:00 GuShH yes they did.
18:00 GuShH mengele, notoriously. lots of unexplained twins born where he was living during that era.
18:01 GuShH the UK commentaries for the match are hilarious, they're biased toward bosnia.
18:02 GuShH MrCurious: one heck of a nazi was kirchner, hard to explain how our president was also a kirchner, and still is a kirchner.
18:02 GuShH their methods are quite nazi if you ask me.
18:03 MrCurious sounds a lovely place
18:03 GuShH will that messi cry boy ever play properly in a worldcup?
18:03 GuShH he's all hype.
18:07 GuShH MrCurious: uk have their own issues with certain immigrants as well, happens everywhere tree-huggers are allowed in power.
18:10 Skwint happens everywhere, tree huggers or not
18:10 GuShH "HALF TIME: Argentina lead thanks to the fastest own goal in World Cup history."
18:10 GuShH why make a distinction in "own" goal?
18:10 GuShH bah I don't know crap about football.
18:10 Skwint tree huggers make it harder to do anything about the problem causers and the semi-nazi reaction to tree huggers make it harder to do anything about the problem SENSIBLY
18:11 GuShH Skwint: where do I stand?
18:11 GuShH I'd like the problem causing ones to go back to their country.
18:11 Skwint I don't know you didn't say?
18:12 wint reads
18:12 GuShH "I want them out"
18:12 Skwint "brownies" ... hmmm
18:12 Skwint possibly a bit too nazi
18:12 GuShH Why? It's a reality.
18:12 GuShH The ones taking over lands and not paying taxes, are brown coloured.
18:12 GuShH Sorry, it's that way.
18:12 GuShH I know it sounds wrong, it's just an observation though.
18:12 Skwint I think it's innacurate
18:12 GuShH pakistanies are brown coloured.
18:13 GuShH they cause a lot of problems.
18:13 Skwint I think someones religion is far more telling than their skin colour
18:13 GuShH peruvians, etc.
18:13 Skwint for example
18:13 GuShH what if they have no religion?
18:13 Skwint I also think a lot of white people in this country are complete twats
18:13 GuShH there are massive white twats.
18:15 GuShH Skwint: biggest issue is they let anyone into the country, with no screening and usually that causes unemployment and other issues
18:15 GuShH going back to the natives here, they were brown.
18:16 GuShH similar story to what happened in the US actually
18:18 GuShH it's just that most problems are attributed to this particular demographic of those who came from neighbouring countries.
18:18 GuShH hard to make a point without sounding like a complete racist...
18:19 ShH just wishes a law would force them to go back to their country and never come back, at least for 10 years, upon a third off
18:19 ShH also wishes police was allowed to do their
18:19 MrCurious the US has seen hoards of children from latin america rushing in without parrents
18:19 MrCurious i call it Pentagon operation Pied Piper
18:20 Skwint ah, now THAT is something I could stand for - points for offences and kicked out like a driving license ban for too many
18:20 MrCurious its a resound success
18:20 Skwint regardless of colour :p
18:20 MrCurious soon we shall have all the youth of the world
18:20 MrCurious and with them, control of the future!
18:20 robotustra_ ah, I see rasists speeches tonoght
18:20 GuShH Skwint: colour was just an observation, I'm not racist but it does sound that way
18:21 GuShH Skwint: and the law should apply to every immigrant anyway
18:21 robotustra_ he is actually
18:21 GuShH robotustra_: no, you are.
18:21 robotustra_ thank you
18:22 GuShH and with regard to driving license bans... that didn't work out here
18:22 MrCurious GuShH: do you have many as you say, brown friends?
18:22 GuShH in fact if you are famous you can get away with anything
18:22 GuShH MrCurious: I don't have many friends at all, real friends can be counted with one hand.
18:22 MrCurious thats normal
18:22 GuShH everyone else is just there for convenience.
18:24 GuShH MrCurious: When they're born taught they can have what isn't theirs... it's hard to correct their reasoning.
18:24 GuShH prison doesn't work.
18:24 GuShH it's all flawed by design
18:24 MrCurious perhaps a form of sharia law would work for you then
18:24 MrCurious cut hands off, stone people, beheaddings
18:25 GuShH no.
18:25 MrCurious of cource, that would just lead to eugenics, and breading of a desired population
18:25 GuShH just go back to your country if you're causing trouble in this country.
18:25 MrCurious which is frowned on
18:26 GuShH MrCurious: however due to the corrupted police force... we do have people taking action.
18:26 GuShH usually just beating the crap out of thieves.
18:26 MrCurious hows that working out?
18:26 GuShH Frowned upon..
18:26 GuShH But I do believe they'll think twice after that.
18:27 GuShH Most of the small time thieves are hooked on one type of drug or another, that's another problem.
18:27 GuShH the last presidential campaign was funded by drug money.
18:27 MrCurious so free drugs would solve your countries problems...
18:27 GuShH they're relatively legal
18:27 GuShH to carry, small quantities.
18:27 GuShH or you can grow pot at home.
18:28 GuShH I don't know why any normal person would have to carry a few grams of cocaine with them, but that's also legal
18:29 GuShH MrCurious: Everything is becoming crap... kids these days are useless wimps.
18:29 GuShH Parents are even worse.
18:30 GuShH robotustra_: did you get your package for the reprap?
18:30 GuShH or still in customs
18:31 GuShH MrCurious: did you know Budweiser is also a German brand?
18:31 GuShH and they make some of the best beer.
18:32 GuShH contrary to the US brand heh
18:32 GuShH they've had a lot of legal issues
18:32 GuShH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser_Budvar_Brewery
18:32 GuShH it's the actual budweiser, from budweis.
18:33 GuShH they both had a play with the "king of beers" slogan... it's pathetic how the US brand turned it around, the original one also stated it was the beer of the kings, but US decided it was the king of beers.
18:33 ShH s
18:34 GuShH king of beers you musn't call beer, nor drink.
18:36 ShH loves us tools and other things, but not their
18:42 Skwint I think if there was a points-then-kick-out approach to immigrants, I'd have to insist on a points-then-jail for natives
18:42 Skwint but then that would be good too so what the hell :)
18:50 GuShH Skwint: I'd vote for that
18:50 GuShH problem with jail is it doesn't work
18:51 Skwint if it moves problem people out of society for a year, it works for a year
18:51 GuShH MrCurious: getting close to my prediction aren't we
18:51 GuShH this is when bosnia SHOULD make their goal, but they might not.
18:52 GuShH 2-0 is when they push it to the limit to at least score once, but since it happened late in the game they know they won't win, so they probably gave up already.
19:06 GuShH MrCurious: so? 2-1 as predicted.
19:06 GuShH do I get a cookie?
19:06 GuShH glad you didn't bet!
19:06 MjrTom you can have cake, at the end
19:06 GuShH yey
19:06 GuShH wait, the cake is a lie.
19:07 GuShH it could end on 3-1 but no.
19:09 ShH grabs some
19:10 GuShH uh-oh shots fired.
20:08 MrCurious is there a name for say an M8 machine screw that has had the first few mm of the tip turned so its a smooth cylinder
20:09 rue_shop2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-Pot-Knobs-OD-1-46-H-0-59-Shaft-1-4-KNOB-D03-for-HAM-Radio-Audio-/201084427914
20:09 rue_shop2 www.ebay.com/itm/5-30x13-D-Shaft-Half-Moon-Shaft-IR-VOLUME-CONTROL-KNOB-/170712286090
20:09 rue_shop2 who likes which knob better
20:11 rue_shop2 I think the black ones win, but they are awefull pricey
20:11 MrCurious ahhh
20:11 MrCurious a half dog set screw
20:12 rue_shop2 the big face is easy to spin on
20:12 rue_shop2 they are encoders, so
20:15 MrCurious if only there was an easy way to use a drill press to add the half dog to a regular screw to make it a half dog set screw
20:15 MrCurious like a pencil sharpener to take off the threads
20:22 rue_shop2 wow, I should start making and selling knobs
21:42 GuShH MrCurious: they're called flat end screws
21:42 GuShH or flat point... or something.
21:42 MrCurious found a better anwer... i can just buy 12 universal joints
21:43 GuShH for?
21:44 MrCurious delta
23:02 GargantuaSauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulhHco5rQlo
23:06 robotustra_ know what is conguctor
23:07 GargantuaSauce something with low registance?
23:07 GargantuaSauce btw did your reprap kit arrive?
23:09 GuShH a conguctor ought to be a fat (gutty) conductor.
23:16 rue_more what ehet price on the universal joints?
23:16 Hyratel I finally went ahead and hooked up the UPS unit that I've had sitting under my desk for several months.
23:17 rue_more heh
23:17 rue_more next week it'll burn out and your computer will lose power
23:17 Hyratel eh.
23:17 rue_more happned to me twice
23:17 rue_more true sine ups'
23:17 rue_more 1kw and a 5kw
23:18 Hyratel I think this is a modsine
23:18 Hyratel it's only a 500W *
23:18 rue_more are you sure your computer can run on it?
23:18 Hyratel *with a weak battery
23:18 rue_more anything with PFC cant run on modified sine
23:18 Hyratel I don't have sufficiently beefy hardware to need more for what I do, and the kind of power blips I get
23:18 rue_more I think anything over a 550W supply has pfc
23:19 Hyratel I think mine is 500
23:20 rue_more before I got a big supply, my old 300W mod sine ups with 144Ah array lasted like 6 hours+
23:20 rue_more I would freak out before it did
23:20 Hyratel I mostly want this for handling the occasional momentary hiccups
23:21 Hyratel things that my offside screen doesn't notice because its power draw is so low (against large capacitors in its internal supply)
23:22 Hyratel or brownouts from the washer/dryer starting
23:22 Hyratel or the neighbor's Aircond
23:22 rue_more feel the main breaker of your power panel, if its hot you have a BIG problem
23:22 Hyratel it isn't, i've checked
23:22 rue_more lots of times the lugs come loose and nobody notices cause they dont draw enough power
23:23 Hyratel it's just that the inrush of their aircon is so high
23:23 rue_more there could also be a bad splice at the main transformer
23:23 Hyratel we have metal fuses <.<
23:23 rue_more heh
23:23 rue_more dear
23:23 rue_more sounds like australlia
23:23 Hyratel screw type for the majoroity of the circuits
23:24 Hyratel no, house just ain't ben wired since probably the 50s
23:24 GargantuaSauce my lights flicker when the big central ac on the hotel across the street kicks in
23:25 GargantuaSauce not even on the same distro transformer
23:25 rue_more http://www.ebay.ca/itm/171281726535
23:25 rue_more isn't it intersting where that sparkfun logo turns up?
23:26 rue_more https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11113
23:26 rue_more $2.50 vs $10, geeeesh
23:26 GargantuaSauce >sparkfun prices
23:27 rue_more I notice that china produces lots of baords for open source projects
23:27 orlock lots of boards, bull stop
23:27 GargantuaSauce where else are you going to get a board done?
23:27 orlock rue_more: guy i worked with moved over there and now thats all he does
23:28 orlock large runs cheaply is the problem - theres board fabs for smaller runs everywhere
23:28 rue_more I got a component tester that was open source
23:28 orlock http://www.hackvana.com/store/
23:29 GargantuaSauce they dont do volume
23:29 orlock I'm sure they would if you asked nicely
23:29 GargantuaSauce for a price that sucked
23:30 GargantuaSauce but yeah for a handful i'd go there or oshpark
23:30 GargantuaSauce otherwise china is the only option
23:32 orlock GargantuaSauce: hackvana is _in china_
23:33 GargantuaSauce oh i thought that was intended as a counterpoint
23:33 orlock nah, he went to china from australia just so he could sell low price geeky stuff
23:38 GargantuaSauce i've mulled over getting an apartment in shenzen or something
23:39 orlock His wife is chinese and rich
23:39 GargantuaSauce would be pretty damn amazing to have nearly any conceivable part within pissing distance
23:40 orlock GargantuaSauce: Topic for #hackvana: Welcome to #hackvana! Guide to PCB quotes and orders: http://hackvana.com/guide -*- NEWS: At present, no delays for ordering, production and shipping. Yippee!