#robotics Logs
Apr 27 2014
#robotics Calendar
00:14 MjrTom youtube?
00:14 rue_house I think the tstat in my big freezer is locked up
00:14 rue_house I SWEAR the things been running nonstop
00:16 MrCurious itunes rental
00:17 rue_house itunes is that expensive now?
00:34 MrCurious $5 to rent it
00:37 rue_house haha, I froze iceweasel when its not doing anything, now it cant pull any cpu time
00:37 rue_house why does it pull 2.7% cpu when nothings happening anyhow?
01:20 rue_bed armyofevilrobots, so, we started up my //e today, but after a while it seems to have filled the shop with a kinda burning paper smell, have to dig in and check it out
10:42 Tom_itx cool... cpuz shows gyro & gps data on android
11:49 ace4016 javascript took its name because java was popular and the creator wanted to ride the tailcoat of java :P
11:49 ace4016 dammit i was scrolled up...
11:58 rue_house hate it when that happens
12:05 Tom_itx but now we know how you feel about it
12:31 rue_house have to think of fun things to do with this arm
12:37 Tom_itx flip pancakes?
12:37 Tom_itx snatch flies outta mid air?
12:41 rue_house hmm, larger arm might be able to do pancakes
12:41 rue_house how do you recon I locate them
12:43 Tom_itx smell vision
12:55 GuShH_ rue_house: make a butterbot
13:04 rue_house sox $file -r 8k -c 1 ./gsm/`basename $file .wav`.gsm resample -q
13:08 rue_house they screwed up the resample option at some point
13:08 rue_house none of my stuff works
13:20 MrCurious have a beer... no, no, my body's a temple.... no, its an amusement park.
13:29 GuShH_ MrCurious: you should force rue into drinking some scotch
13:59 rue_house yup, I'm sure that freezer isn't turning off
14:01 rue_house well my body is on a ~75-85yr lease, mother nature wants it back.
14:02 rue_house my plan is to move out
14:02 rue_house not quite sure how to work that
14:03 rue_house sorta like a chest freezer that was put in the house before an addition that locked it in
14:03 rue_house and now has a stuck tstat
14:37 GuShh_Lap2 o.o
14:37 GuShh_Lap2 ok, got a rohm and a jacobs chuck...
14:37 GuShh_Lap2 with their arbors...
14:37 GuShh_Lap2 if I keep having chuck issues I'ma go insane.
14:38 GuShh_Lap2 the self adjustable is small enough that I reckon won't spin my bits on small work.
14:38 GuShh_Lap2 oh I gotta show you some of the twist drills from the lot, they have odd angles and profiles ground into them... some of them puzzle me.
14:39 GuShh_Lap2 one looks to have a pilot drill ground at the tip, to step-drill... the others have odd angles, there are some "flat" ones which I'm not sure if they were used for wood, or to make pockets avoiding the use of endmills
14:39 GuShh_Lap2 ie. flat pockets
14:39 GuShh_Lap2 they sure as heck won't center themselves.
14:40 GuShh_Lap2 some have strange cutting angles, I don't see how they can engage at all into any material
14:52 rue_shop2 could someone in north america tell me what sizes are in a multipack of spade drill bits?
14:52 rue_shop2 er, not in north america
14:52 rue_shop2 I need metric
15:19 rue_shop2 theBear, HEY
15:19 rue_shop2 you awake?
15:19 rue_shop2 how much to send you to the hardware store?
15:27 Tom_itx why are you desparate for metric?
15:31 Tom_itx http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-pc-x-12-WOOD-SPADE-DRILL-SET-METRIC-BRAND-NEW-/181134386977
15:31 Tom_itx 10 12 16 18 20 & 25mm
15:35 Tom_itx fostner are better
16:45 blockh34d can high pressure water be used to generate high pressure air?
16:45 blockh34d also, can a water based pressure washer be used to generate HP air?
16:46 blockh34d not sure why i'd ask here but it seems like something someone here may have tried
17:21 rue_house hmmm
17:21 rue_house ok
17:41 LoRez blockh34d: perhaps if you use the water output from the pressure washer to fill a tank of air, but you'll potentially burst the air tank
17:43 LoRez might be able to re-engineer a pressure washer pump to be able to compress air, but you may need to start with already compressed air to get very far with it. also, water tends to be used secondarily to cool PW pumps
17:43 blockh34d i'm eyeing the 4500+ psi fiber tanks paintballers use for HP guns
17:44 blockh34d hmm ok so you think i'd have better luck feedin the pressure washer say, 120psi on its inlet
17:44 blockh34d so its the second and maybe third stage of a multistage compressor?
17:45 LoRez perhaps. haven't done it before, but it's used to "compressing" liquids
17:45 blockh34d right, doesnt' really need to compress them much eh
17:46 blockh34d since water doesnt compres
17:46 blockh34d not sure how to make it work
17:46 LoRez right
17:46 blockh34d just trying to figure out a portable HP air solution
17:46 LoRez for?
17:46 GuShh_Lap2 Hmm can't find info on the jacobs super chuck 20n, what type of taper does it have?
17:46 blockh34d something with a human portable form factor and either gas operated or LION/NICAD etc
17:46 GuShh_Lap2 JT5?
17:47 blockh34d LoRez: I dunno, jump boots, body armor, soemthing cool
17:47 blockh34d motion assist
17:47 blockh34d maybe the most bezerk spud gun ever made
17:47 blockh34d brb
17:50 LoRez for 1L of 200atm air, it would take 200L of air at 1atm
17:53 rue_house blockh34d, what have you made so far?
17:54 GuShh_Lap2 I should get this anyway.. 40 bucks, it's a 200 bucks (used) chuck, about 400 bucks new...
17:59 MrCurious theres first world prices for you...
18:02 GuShh_Lap2 MrCurious: huh?
18:03 GuShh_Lap2 no just a guy who doesn't really know what it's worth ;)
18:03 GuShh_Lap2 and the 200 bucks came from an eBay seller in the USA
18:03 MrCurious you going to tell him
18:03 GuShh_Lap2 no I'm going to buy it, because now I'm an asshole.
18:03 MrCurious karma is conserved :D
18:03 GuShh_Lap2 chances are it needs to be rebuilt
18:03 GuShh_Lap2 I never have good luck
18:04 GuShh_Lap2 (this chuck is as big as a coffee mug, to give you an idea of size)
18:04 GuShh_Lap2 but they're awesome compared to the china crap they sell everywhere now adays
18:04 GuShh_Lap2 http://www.jacobschuck.com/images/products/super%20chucks%20Update%20(ENG).pdf
18:05 GuShh_Lap2 MrCurious: mind you it looks very used.
18:06 MrCurious i see you need that. that will be one to pass down to your son
18:06 GuShh_Lap2 I'll have a son?
18:07 GuShh_Lap2 I had bad luck with cheaper chucks... and lots of frustration.
18:08 GuShh_Lap2 a 16mm one I got only has a few months of use and it doesn't center anymore (massive runout), one of the jaws seems bent or damaged, it didn't even seat properly on the arbor when I got it...
18:08 GuShh_Lap2 waste of time and money.
18:08 blockh34d lol MrCurious my nick used to be MrFurious on another net, i had to look twice
18:09 blockh34d MrFurious should be your anger-problem having alter ego
18:09 GuShh_Lap2 haha
18:09 MrCurious or MrSpurious for those more whimsical days
18:10 blockh34d lol for sure
18:11 GuShh_Lap2 fo shizzle ma nizzle
18:11 blockh34d what kind of materials do you need to use for HP?
18:12 blockh34d special hoses / fittings?
18:12 blockh34d seems like it could be a whole different world
18:12 GuShh_Lap2 it is and in that world you can get hurt very easily
18:12 blockh34d yes i imagine so
18:12 blockh34d my plan is to do system checks with fluid
18:12 blockh34d make its all air tight etc
18:12 blockh34d then take it out back and shoot at it a while
18:13 GuShh_Lap2 ?
18:13 blockh34d and if i can shoot it, and it still doesn't violently explode, maybe i trust it on my back
18:13 GuShh_Lap2 shoot it with...?
18:13 blockh34d i dunno, low caliber stuff at first
18:13 blockh34d 22, shotgun, rocks/slingshot etc
18:14 GuShh_Lap2 that's how they do pressure tests in redneck ´murica?
18:14 blockh34d then up from there until i fails
18:14 blockh34d any excuse to involve a gun
18:14 blockh34d we're working on a way to flash fry food with a shotgun
18:14 GuShh_Lap2 Wrong tool for the job
18:14 blockh34d so you can fire it directly into your mouth
18:14 GuShh_Lap2 ...
18:14 blockh34d how would you suggest stress testing a system like that?
18:15 blockh34d some sort of HP backback mounted something
18:15 GuShh_Lap2 with water, I told you.
18:15 blockh34d ah yeah well thats the plan
18:15 GuShh_Lap2 you can get 3000psi or so from a good pressure washer pump
18:15 blockh34d but after that has checked out
18:15 blockh34d i want to make sure it's not abnormally sensitive to shock
18:15 blockh34d like if i jump up and down with this thing on, i shouldnt die from it
18:15 Tom_itx take it to the bottom of the ocean, fill it with 100PSI and bring it back up
18:15 GuShh_Lap2 haha
18:15 Tom_itx if you survive it must be ok
18:16 blockh34d haha ok will do
18:16 GuShh_Lap2 oh so he has to go with it?
18:16 Tom_itx uh huh
18:16 GuShh_Lap2 he won't get very f... oh yeah try that out
18:16 blockh34d who needs ear drums
18:16 GuShh_Lap2 your lungs will collapse not very deeply
18:16 blockh34d i'm upgrading all that old analog shit anyways
18:16 GuShh_Lap2 the rest is just irrelevant
18:16 blockh34d all digital soon
18:17 blockh34d can't wait till i can afford some laser feet
18:17 GuShh_Lap2 are you on medication?
18:17 blockh34d self medication...
18:17 blockh34d does that count?
18:17 GuShh_Lap2 yes, that's even worse
18:18 blockh34d well it'll make the high pressure test videos that much more LOL-ful
18:18 GuShh_Lap2 If you say so
18:18 blockh34d 'ok so first just connect this to BAMM!!! omg my face!'
18:18 GuShh_Lap2 Are you sure it's the meds?
18:19 blockh34d no i'm a nihilist
18:19 blockh34d thats the probem
18:19 blockh34d everything is stupid
18:19 Shh_Lap2 bl
18:23 blockh34d i've been readin a lot of training manuals for hydraulic/pneumatic systems design/maintence
18:23 blockh34d should be fin
18:23 blockh34d +e
18:23 GuShh_Lap2 famous last words
18:23 blockh34d 'don't worry, i googled this...'
18:23 blockh34d BAM
18:23 GuShh_Lap2 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
18:23 blockh34d exactly
18:23 blockh34d at least it will be funny
18:24 blockh34d oh i know what to yell as i try it out and/or come close to dying
18:24 blockh34d 'FREE HEALTHCARE!'
18:25 blockh34d that should be what i yell when i try out the jump boots for the first time
18:25 blockh34d or let someone shoot me
18:25 GuShh_Lap2 how soon until you begin your testing phase? can you start tomorrow?
18:25 blockh34d asap
18:25 blockh34d pronto
18:25 GuShh_Lap2 today?
18:25 blockh34d i'm ready
18:26 blockh34d well almost
18:26 ockh34d medic
18:26 blockh34d i'm not even close to ready btw
18:26 blockh34d all i have now is a few air muscle fibers
18:27 blockh34d but they pressurize to 150psi no problem
18:27 blockh34d even with me smacking them around
18:29 blockh34d maybe i should give up the idea of carrying around the compressor
18:29 blockh34d just get used to tanks
18:29 blockh34d and keeping the compressor in a vehicle
18:29 blockh34d certainly seemsa lot more realistic to me
18:30 GuShh_Lap2 nothing you say is realistic though
18:30 blockh34d its all realative
18:30 blockh34d should have heard me 10 years ago
18:30 blockh34d talked about the same stuff, but back then it was just far out scifi bs
18:30 blockh34d now its like 'well that doesnt really sound practical
18:31 blockh34d 10 years from now, it'll be so practical they include it with cereal
18:31 blockh34d just wait, robots will be self replicating any day now
18:31 blockh34d we already have motion assist suits
18:31 blockh34d they're fairly common actually, at least in rnd labs
18:31 blockh34d seems like everyones working on a motion assist suit
18:32 blockh34d 10 years ago, far out sci fi, today its being demo'd and has a pricetag
18:34 Shh_Lap2 gets rid of all the ironman copies blockh34d
18:34 GuShh_Lap2 go play with a shitty shield like captain 'murica!
18:35 GuShh_Lap2 just use a tray from the kitchen oven.
18:35 blockh34d oh i have the perfect garbage can lid
18:35 blockh34d evil has no chance!
18:35 GuShh_Lap2 that's even better
18:35 blockh34d i think i'm more of a night thrasher though
18:36 blockh34d bet you don't know which one that is
18:36 GuShh_Lap2 nope
18:36 blockh34d night thrasher is a lesser known marvel character
18:36 blockh34d kind of like a black teenage batman
18:36 GuShh_Lap2 sure it's not night trash?
18:36 Shh_Lap2 g
18:36 blockh34d night trasher
18:36 blockh34d garbage never had a chance
18:37 Shh_Lap2 pats block
18:37 blockh34d still need to work on my backstory for that one i guess
18:37 blockh34d maybe garbage you know.. killed his parents or something
18:38 blockh34d bitten by radioactive trash maybe?
18:38 GuShh_Lap2 they ate a can of plankton they found.
18:38 blockh34d The God of Trash selected a new champion?
18:39 blockh34d we have the technology... but we don't want to spend a lot of money = the $16.37 man
18:39 GuShh_Lap2 isn't 7.98 or 7.99 the new 9.99?
18:39 GuShh_Lap2 at least for apps
18:39 GuShh_Lap2 7.89 something like that.
18:39 blockh34d yeah i bet it is
18:40 GuShh_Lap2 you guys have silly brains.
18:40 blockh34d i don't buy apps
18:40 GuShh_Lap2 I still read that as 8 bucks, 9 bucks, 10 bucks.. why do people round down?
18:40 blockh34d maybe our brains are normal, and yours is silly
18:40 GuShh_Lap2 no, most americans are gullible.
18:40 blockh34d its bred into us
18:40 blockh34d from birth
18:40 Shh_Lap2 sh
18:40 blockh34d litrally maybe even prebirth
18:41 GuShh_Lap2 mcdonalds around here used to give you the actual cents, from the change... now they don't bother, we don't care.
18:41 blockh34d not me though
18:41 Tom_itx no we just appear gullible when in fact we are foolin ya all
18:41 ockh34d has it all figured
18:41 blockh34d exactly
18:41 GuShh_Lap2 Tom_itx: no... you do buy more if the price is missing a couple cents.
18:41 blockh34d also its a status symbol in america to act like an idiot
18:41 Tom_itx not this kid
18:41 GuShh_Lap2 you are an idiot.
18:41 blockh34d 'look how dumb i get away with being'
18:42 blockh34d nono i'm not rich enough to be a complete idiot
18:42 Tom_itx i figure what it will cost me including taxes beforehand
18:43 blockh34d ok i nominate 'future-proof' as stupid buzzword of the day
18:44 blockh34d as in "Future-proof control of up to 8 devices", from http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Control-Smartphone-Simple/dp/B00BQ5RYI4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398633682&sr=8-1&keywords=harmony+smart+control
18:44 blockh34d i wish i was future proof
18:46 GuShh_Lap2 blockh34d: your suit is ready, It's only $9.999.999.99
18:47 blockh34d is it future proof?
18:47 GuShh_Lap2 totally
18:47 blockh34d ok then i'll put it on my credit card
18:48 blockh34d tomorrow will never come
18:48 blockh34d pass the non dairy creamer
18:50 GuShh_Lap2 blockh34d: : future you http://imgur.com/vItj0pI
18:53 blockh34d i figured this would be more likely http://www.actionfigurearchive.co.uk/ekmps/shops/carpetmonster/images/family-guy-series-7-action-bionic-peter-588-p.jpg
18:54 rue_shop2 its more aparent than ever right now that the canadian government is intentionally putting up the cost of electricity and lowering the prices of gas
18:54 Tom_itx start using more gas
18:55 Tom_itx they're selling us fuel to make them electricity
19:11 GuShh_Lap2 rue_shop2: at least the gas is going down...
19:11 GuShh_Lap2 rue_shop2: here everything went up, including gasoline (again)
19:11 GuShh_Lap2 compared to december, it now costs twice as much.
19:13 rue_shop2 they also scuttled the electric car subsidy program
19:13 rue_shop2 and there is no subsidy for solar
19:24 Tom_itx rue_shop2, how's the voice recognition on the iphone?
19:25 Tom_itx i'm pretty impressed with this thing so far
19:26 Tom_itx i know they botched their maps at one point...
19:26 blockh34d i've been really impressed with googles voice recog stuff in android
19:26 Tom_itx yep
19:26 blockh34d seems to get it right most of the time
19:26 Tom_itx i tried 'How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?' with 100% accuracy
19:26 blockh34d yeah i bet it only got that wrong a time or two
19:27 blockh34d and then they trained it and now the other 500000 times its been perfect
19:27 Tom_itx probably so
19:27 Tom_itx but i'm still impressed
19:27 MrCurious join #allura
19:27 Tom_itx entering data like phone numbers it doesn't always get the separations right where they should be
19:28 Tom_itx what for?
19:28 Tom_itx MrCurious, what's it about?
19:30 MrCurious the / fell on the floor, sry
19:31 m_itx picks it up and hands it to MrCur
19:32 MrCurious working out how to install a git server is buggaring me up
19:33 rue_house you know, in about 2 days something will replcae git
19:37 MrCurious perhaps, but my time machine is broke, and this has been selected for this sundays challenge
20:42 GuShH_ rue_shop2: so.... time to go off the grid?
20:42 GuShH_ are Wilton vises worth looking into?
20:51 rue_shop2 dunno
20:52 rue_shop2 been pondering a 10kw steam powered genorator
21:10 GuShH_ lol
21:10 Tom_itx mmm this is turning out nice
21:10 GuShH_ rue_shop2: running on wood?
21:11 GuShH_ solar?
21:11 GuShH_ Tom_itx: what is? are you talking alone again? I'll ask blockh34d to hand you some of his meds
21:11 ShH_ h
21:11 Tom_itx working on some code
21:12 GuShH_ which we can't see
21:12 Tom_itx adding driving directions to a data file
21:12 Tom_itx nope
21:12 GuShH_ so it's turning out nice relative to YOU
21:12 Tom_itx y of course it is
21:12 GuShH_ <opensourcefanboy>
21:12 Tom_itx proprietary data
21:12 GuShH_ not really, I just hate it when open source fanboys get on your face over code.
21:14 rue_shop2 yes wood
21:14 orlock i tried using himemade compressed paper bricks
21:15 orlock homemade
21:15 orlock not too bad, but they leave no coals
21:17 GuShH_ rue_shop2: why not also solar?
21:17 GuShH_ orlock: most of the organic waste we throw away contains a ton of energy
21:17 GuShH_ including the non organic, in fact.
21:17 GuShH_ plastics...
21:18 GuShH_ lol @ Silicon Valley
21:23 orlock the new tv show?
21:24 lock is wokring at a startup, doesnt want to watch people getting paid more to pretend they
21:24 GuShH_ orlock: yeah
21:25 GuShH_ it's funny...
21:25 GuShH_ are you implying acting has no merit nor skill?
21:25 orlock no, just the majority of tv is crap :
21:25 orlock :)
21:25 GuShH_ it is
21:25 orlock i dont like big bang theory either
21:26 GuShH_ do you like cartoons?
21:26 orlock it used to have the faintest bit of real geek humour at the start, but now its just bad jokes at the expense of geeks
21:26 orlock i read the walking dead
21:27 GuShH_ aw geek got offended by fake storylines
21:27 ShH_ pats or
21:27 GuShH_ Rick and Morty is funny.
21:27 GuShH_ The voice actor is great.
21:34 rue_shop2 ok the current goal is to clear the couch on the deck
21:45 blockh34d with what?
21:45 blockh34d jump boots?
22:43 rue_house dont be silly, I'll use the 12' mecha
23:59 MrCurious wasted day