#robotics Logs
Feb 02 2014
#robotics Calendar
00:10 Casper I'm shopping for a finish nailer, I have the choice between 2 guns, one that do up to 2" nails of 18ga, and one that it about twice the price that do 2.5" 16ga... is it worth to get the 16ga one?
00:22 MrCurious harbor freight has 3 models in the ub $100 area
00:22 MrCurious sub
00:23 MrCurious just saw in this weekends flier
00:23 MrCurious 3 in 1, 18 deg, 22 deg
00:23 MrCurious between i think 70 and $110
00:23 MrCurious IIRC
00:24 MrCurious it is also on my nice to have list
00:24 Casper MrCurious: answer for me? or someone else?
00:24 MrCurious for casper
00:24 Casper yeah but 16ga or 18ga?
00:24 MrCurious http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=framing
00:25 MrCurious 10 gauge
00:25 Casper local one have a sale right now, 35.99 instead of 89.99 for a #18 5/8-2" and another one for 1-2.5" #16 for 79.99 instead of 199.99
00:26 Casper 10 gauge is way too big, it's finish stuff...
00:26 MrCurious 35 for a framing nailer or finish nailer
00:26 MrCurious oh finish
00:26 Jak_o_Shadows Because It's sorta hard to figure out the size on ANYTHING reprap, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104809629/boxFrame.pdf
00:26 MrCurious sorry
00:27 MrCurious harbor freight has lots of cheap finish naiers
00:27 MrCurious i have a few of those (because they are chea)
00:27 MrCurious p
00:27 Casper yeah but 18ga or 16ga that I should get?
00:28 Jak_o_Shadows So now at least I know what size rod to get.
00:29 MrCurious both :)
00:30 rue_shop2 there is a way to get dimentions from the 3d printer files for the printed pieces
00:31 rue_shop2 the rods you need *just happen* to be the same rods you would get out of 3 impact printers, one wide format
00:31 rue_shop2 which I find highly suspicious
00:33 Jak_o_Shadows oh yeah, I already have some smooth rods, I should check them
00:33 Jak_o_Shadows the problem with getting the dimensions from the files is that I can't be bothered with scad
00:34 Jak_o_Shadows also, let's go check in the 55+ degree shed for rods
00:36 Jak_o_Shadows haha, yeah, one of the 8mm smooth rods I have is 370
00:38 Casper hey rue_shop2 ! finish nailer, gauge 18 or 16?
00:41 GuShH_ Casper: 18 for most things
00:41 GuShH_ what-ya-buildin
00:42 Casper GuShH_: next job is new floor, so need to install the thing at the bottom of the wall (don't remember the english name)
00:42 GuShH_ and if you're buying cheap maybe a kit with many sizes will do best
00:42 GuShH_ hrmmm mouldings??
00:43 Casper I don't feels like nailing by hand
00:43 Casper yeah
00:43 GuShH_ isn't 18 too big for most mouldings
00:43 GuShH_ you'd kinda want a small enough hole so that you don't have to fill much up or file anything
00:43 GuShH_ but strong enough so it'll hold
00:44 Casper #18 is quite small
00:44 GuShH_ if it's more than one moulding you definitely don't want to do it by hand!!
00:44 GuShH_ Casper: but I don't know the size of your mouldings heh
00:44 Casper 2 rooms
00:44 GuShH_ I don't think you can do it by hand and get the same result either
00:45 GuShH_ as you can't drive the nails fast enough so they would "hide2
00:45 GuShH_ ie get slightly past the surface
00:45 rue_shop2 this one connection keeps failing the tug-test, maybe i should stop doing it
00:45 MrCurious i think holding function for trim is more a function of putting the brads in at an angle alternating each brad 10 - 15 deg off perfect normal
00:45 ShH_ tugs rue_shop2's s
00:45 MrCurious that creates a mechanical grip that will hod the trim perfectly
00:45 MrCurious solidly rather
00:45 Casper quarter round + baseboard
00:45 GuShH_ trim, that's not as fancy
00:45 Casper that's it! :D
00:46 MrCurious just dont put every brad in perfectstrait...
00:46 MrCurious or they all pull out as one
00:46 GuShH_ but the angle is a function of the size then
00:46 GuShH_ as you'll get less penetration...
00:47 GuShH_ - more surface to go through -
00:47 GuShH_ stupid java, piece of crap.
00:47 GuShH_ why does it still exist
00:47 GuShH_ WHY
00:47 MrCurious 1" should be ideal
00:47 Casper GuShH_: that is something that I always wondered...
00:47 MrCurious java is a language of beauty and function
00:48 MrCurious solves the portaility issues
00:48 Casper "solve"
00:48 GuShH_ bs
00:48 MrCurious and its nicer to code in than python
00:48 GuShH_ ma perché!!!!!!
00:48 ShH_ shakes
00:48 Jak_o_Shadows hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahah
00:49 MrCurious python is a toy language
00:49 ShH_ gives MrCurious the k
00:49 MrCurious GuShH go check your bed, i left a severed horse-head there for you
00:49 GuShH_ That doesn't really happen anymore
00:50 GuShH_ And I don't need a message, I just marked you!
00:50 GuShH_ You Java purist you.
00:50 Curious lifts his leg and marks Gu
00:50 GuShH_ haha
00:50 MrCurious guess i own that foot now... :(
00:50 GuShH_ You forgot to mention how "safe" Java is
00:51 MrCurious thats the JVM issue
00:51 ShH_ stares at Jak_o_Sha
00:51 GuShH_ Isn't the JVM what allows it to be "portable"
00:51 MrCurious though i think node.js may be on the rise, and a potential rival to java going forward
00:51 MrCurious http://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/#/
00:51 MrCurious interesting site
00:51 GuShH_ So we agree it's inherently broken
00:52 MrCurious all languages have their issues
00:52 MrCurious trick is to have a coping mechanism
00:52 MrCurious and chose a language that is rapid to build in, and hardened enough to guard from the stupid...
00:52 MrCurious a rigorous test driven dev environment
00:52 GuShH_ Haha I just noticed I have a horse head made out of leather and cow hide right here, but it's 2D.
00:53 MrCurious yeah.... a real one would just be yucky...
00:53 GuShH_ Local artwork.
00:53 GuShH_ So I could roll it up and FedEx it to your door!
00:53 GuShH_ A lot more practical.
00:53 GuShH_ But these days we can just make your 3d printer print out a tiny horse head.
00:53 MrCurious or fold it, and use a express over night envelope
00:54 MrCurious TO: MrCurious's BED, HIS ADDRESS, HIS COUNTRY
00:54 GuShH_ hard to fold leather
00:54 GuShH_ FROM: SOMEONE
00:54 MrCurious hmmm a 3d printer publicaly avail on internet.. wonder what the world would print...
00:54 MrCurious probably lots of body parts
00:55 GuShH_ one specific body part
00:55 GuShH_ but that's what #reprap is all about
00:55 GuShH_ they even made a script to generate dildos
00:55 GuShH_ ....
00:55 GuShH_ genadong
01:03 rue_shop2 I need to build larger robots, getting my head in this thing is really hard
01:03 Jak_o_Shadows :D
01:07 MrCurious rue_shop2: yes i have been telling you that
01:07 MrCurious suggest in the 25' size range
01:07 MrCurious demand respect!
01:07 Casper rue_shop2: don't forget to add AI and voice command
01:08 MrCurious casper:: with 25' robots its called AI and voice-suggestion
01:13 Casper true :D
01:14 Casper specially if you add 2 machine guns with unlimited ammo and rocket launcher (robocop... not murphy the other bad robot)
01:16 MrCurious rue_shop2: is making an autobot?
01:22 GuShH_ yes, for the autobahn
01:22 GuShH_ so he can auto while he autos
01:22 Jak_o_Shadows Well, that's the better part of a day planning for a reprap
01:33 rue_shop2 its my hexapod
01:33 rue_shop2 there are litterally HUNDREDS of freaking interconnects between the modules
01:34 rue_shop2 I'm just reworking the power distribution
01:34 rue_shop2 which used to be +24V, GND, -24V, but now has to include 5V
01:34 rue_shop2 I'm just about to modify the two control 5V supplies with a lug for connecting to them
01:35 rue_shop2 wondering if I should gang them or leave them seperate
01:35 rue_shop2 right now they are seperate
01:35 e_shop2 th
01:36 rue_shop2 servo driver, 2 connectors for signal, one for motor, one for power = 4
01:36 rue_shop2 power board, 3 power out, 4 power in, 2 signal = 9
01:37 rue_shop2 controller board, 8 signal out, 8 signal in, 1 serial, 1 power = 18
01:38 rue_shop2 serial hub, 6 comm ports, 1 power port = 7
01:38 rue_shop2 5V converters, 3 out, 2 in = 5
01:39 rue_shop2 so, 4*6+9*6+18*5+1*7+2*5
01:40 rue_shop2 ok, its only 185 +- these barrier blocks
02:01 GargantuaSauce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uiPHL-xey4
03:15 Jak_o_Shadows on the swing GargantuaSauce :D
06:38 GuShH_ rue_house: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLPWqCMb7DE
08:40 sdes Hello?
08:40 sdes What is the best way to make my AVR communicate with GNU Octave or SciLab?
08:43 aemquo Ask it nicely.
08:44 Faek Lock them in a padded cell together
08:47 sdes Oh sorry I didn't want to be rude.
08:53 Faek You werent being rude
08:53 Faek We were id anything
09:02 aemquo hue hue
09:03 aemquo sdes, You could try ##electronics , this channel isn't very active right now.
09:03 Tom_itx or #avr
09:13 sdes Ok thanks guys
10:27 Hukka sdes: Assuming that here's no support for any special usb devices, I'm guessing the only way is the serial
10:27 Hukka With the right settings octave could read and write to the serial just to/from a file
10:48 sdes Hm yeah I guess that would work.
12:45 TELunus I'm working on a project that needs a to turn something at 52rad/sec (500rpm), with 2.5N*m (22lbf*in) of torque. We'll also need to measure the position of the output. The rest of my team seems pretty set on using a brushed DC motor. They also seem to think attaching an encoder or gearbox after the fact complicates things too much.
12:46 TELunus So now I'm looking for gearmotor with those specs that comes with an encoder.
13:28 rue_bed TELunus, if you need to, you can attach your own encoder
13:28 rue_bed TELunus, how many watts is that
13:28 rue_bed (then multiply by between 1.5 and 2)
13:31 TELunus it's about 1.2kW. 1.2*1.5=1.8, 1.2*2=2.4
13:32 rue_bed wow, you sure?
13:32 rue_bed thats enough to push a midsized cart or a rather large conveyor
13:33 rue_bed TELunus,
13:33 rue_bed You have: 2.5N*m*500rpm
13:33 rue_bed You want: watts
13:33 rue_bed * 130.89969
13:33 rue_bed who is wrong?
13:34 rue_bed (I just woke up)
13:34 rue_bed (remember, there is no such thing as cheating in the real world)
13:36 TELunus Lol, I was using the wrong number in my calculation.
13:36 rue_bed :)
13:36 rue_bed ok, so thats output power right?
13:36 TELunus I was using the torque 22(the torque in lbf*in)
13:36 rue_bed oh keep imperial out of it whenever you can
13:37 rue_bed now I use my command line calculator...
13:38 rue_bed calc 131/0.8
13:38 rue_bed 131/0.8 -->> 163.750000
13:38 TELunus So ya 131 W. 131* 1.5=197, 131*2=262.
13:38 rue_bed so thats the input power
13:38 rue_bed (dc motors at about 80%, I'm being nice)
13:38 rue_bed so, 200w or so motor should be a good min
13:39 TELunus By nice you mean conservative I assume?
13:39 rue_bed TELunus, what voltage?
13:39 rue_bed yea, you CAN work a dc motor at 200% and they will last a long time, dont...
13:40 TELunus Well, we haven't been able to find much in the way of motors to these specs at all so far, so really just about anything goes. That said, 5, 12, or 24, or 48 would be very nice.
13:40 rue_bed say 24V, about 10A, a disability scooter motor has about the right power
13:40 rue_bed *but* motors like that are sold by wattage, so knowing you need a 200W helps
13:41 rue_bed then you just need a gearbox thats right
13:42 rue_bed TELunus, is there a budget to buy a new motor
13:42 rue_bed $$$ can get a custom baldor with gearbox, encoder, and spec sheet :)
13:42 TELunus Thing is, there's a budget for the whole project, but no specific budget for the motor.
13:42 rue_bed just a second...
13:42 e_bed gets out of
13:44 rue_house great, I'm looking for the switch on my knock controlled light
13:45 rue_house TELunus, I have a catalog, I'll see if I can give you a suggestion
13:45 TELunus K, I might be able to find you a rough price range.
13:45 rue_house ... do you need to keep the motor?
13:46 rue_house I'll give you a fish and find you a part number you can look up datasheets on ;)
13:46 rue_house http://www.baldor.com/products/dc_motors.asp
13:47 rue_house I'm finding in my paper catalog...
13:47 rue_house loooking for one gearless
13:49 rue_house ok, looking for matches with 4:1
13:50 rue_house ok thats then, 200rpm at .625Nm
13:50 rue_house ^0
13:51 rue_house huh, they keep going to 50 and 100V on me...
13:54 rue_house TELunus, MT-2240-BCYAN
13:54 rue_house its in the power range of that, with a 4:1 gearbox...
13:55 TELunus http://www.baldor.com/products/detail.asp?catsearch=1&catalog=MT-2240-BCYAN&image2.x=0&image2.y=0
13:56 rue_house iiinteresting
13:56 rue_house TELunus, baldor has a van. office, number is 604-421-2822
13:57 e_house tries to work out what was wrong with the part nu
13:58 TELunus Ya, I think another one of my team members was talking to baldor.
13:58 TELunus As far as I could tell they weren't getting anywhere usefull though.
13:58 rue_house heh
13:59 rue_house if you say you need 500rpm and 2.5Nm they should be abel to just look it up
14:00 rue_house its kinda a small motor for them
14:00 rue_house you would want to phone and ask to talk to an application engineer
14:00 rue_house ... still looking up numbers
14:03 rue_house http://www.baldor.com/pdf/literature/BR1202_F.pdf
14:03 rue_house can you open that?
14:04 rue_house tahts a pdf of the section I'm reading
14:04 rue_house http://www.baldor.com/products/servomotors/dc_servomotor/dc_servo_spec.asp?CatalogNumber=MT-2250-BCYCN
14:07 rue_house TELunus, if you want to get creative...
14:07 rue_house vacuum cleaner motors can be 'rated' up to about 2HP
14:08 rue_house you need to really gear them down tho
14:08 rue_house they are happy at 48V
14:08 rue_house whats it for, how official do you need to be about it?
14:08 rue_house I'm gonna have a shower while you get thru all that :)
14:09 TELunus That pdf opened, and I've got that product page.
14:09 rue_house I'm sure at univ. they like people to use new things ith datasheets
14:09 rue_house but if you just have to make it go, thats another story ;)
14:12 TELunus Well, the thing is ideally our client can reproduce our results :)
14:13 TELunus with new hardware.
14:30 rue_house ok
14:31 rue_house do you see a bit on how their options for putting an encoder on it work?
14:32 rue_house TELunus, I cant find anything from them on gearboxes, but I'm sure they are partnered with someone
14:33 TELunus Ya, I noticed the encoder, it looks sufficient. However it's rather pricey.
14:34 TELunus Also, as far as gear boxes go, it looks like at 30 volts and 0.5 krpm it will already have sufficient speed.
14:34 rue_house yea, so is the motor
14:34 TELunus I mean sufficient torque.
14:34 rue_house carefull of your operating range
14:34 TELunus Hmm?
14:35 rue_house heh, I put the book away....
14:35 rue_house what motor are you looking at with that rpm/torque?
14:43 rue_house TELunus, there is another motor manufacturer thats for mtoors of the smaller nature
14:43 TELunus http://www.baldor.com/products/servomotors/dc_servomotor/perf_graph.asp?catalognumber=MT-2250-BCYCN
14:44 rue_house thats dosn't go to 2.5Nm
14:44 rue_house so you need atleast 2:1
14:45 rue_house your better matched at 2000rpm tho
14:45 rue_house unless for the 30V curve
14:45 rue_house for the 50V (48V) I'd go 4:1, for the 30V I'd do 2:1
14:48 TELunus Wait, the 48V graph is higer, so for a given speed we get more torque, so we don't need to gear it as far.
14:48 rue_house look at torque on right
14:49 rue_house the thing peaks out al about 2Nm
14:49 rue_house the other motors that have a better torque match, are 100V motors
14:50 TELunus Yes, for 24V.
14:50 rue_house and their rpm is way up there, along with their size :)
14:50 rue_house lets say the 50V version,
14:51 rue_house 2000rpm, would be..
14:51 TELunus But I'm really not likeing the price. I can't find an exact number, but it looks like UBC's budget for us is arround $750, but this motor costs like $980
14:52 rue_house 22V, 10A
14:52 rue_house TELunus, thats the baldor problem :)
14:53 rue_house let me find th toher manu...
14:53 rue_shop2 its german, I have to read it to remember
14:54 rue_shop2 Buehler
14:55 rue_shop2 there is also pittman
15:00 rue_shop2 http://www.buehlermotor.de/C12572D40025EAF8/vwContentByKey/W274AHFA065WEBRDE/$File/Gear%20Motor_70%20x%20129_1.61.050.4XX.pdf
15:00 rue_shop2 oo
15:01 rue_shop2 arg, ist nin spek deutch!
15:03 rue_shop2 http://www.pittman-motors.com/Brush-DC-Motors.aspx <-- then add a gearbox...
15:03 rue_shop2 this is the fun designing an electric car
15:04 rue_shop2 I SWEAR that these usb keybaords loose keystrokes...
15:04 Tom_itx and put them out in random order too?
15:05 sherlock rue_shop2: is it wireless?
15:05 sherlock My experience with wireless usb keyboards has been awful
15:07 rue_house no its wired
15:07 rue_house but linux coders have been known to not worry about throwing out the occasional event
15:08 rue_house a system has better things to do than record your every keystroke you know
15:08 rue_house even when windows freezes the mouse cursor still works
15:08 rue_house TELunus, is this helping give you direction?
15:10 TELunus Yup.
15:11 TELunus The mouse also helps give the cursor direction :)
15:14 rue_house shall I leave you with the design a bit? you want to show me what you come up with?
15:23 rue_house waiiit a sec..
15:29 rue_house hmm nothing big enough
15:32 eadthem why do bearings for 8020 cost 40-70$ each
15:34 rue_house 8020?
15:35 eadthem http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=15&_nkw=linear+bearing+t+slot&rt=nc
15:35 MrCurious 8020 is magical aluminum extrusions
15:35 MrCurious it can be had from places other than ebay :)
15:36 eadthem yes
15:38 rue_house http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/images/ASR_internals.jpg <-- I like idea!
15:39 rue_house TELunus, http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-E30400-G.html some units conversion?
15:39 rue_house its too big for the application, but I think it'd work
15:41 rue_house they kinda jump over the size your looking for
15:43 rue_house http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-G43-500.html <-- no stall torque
15:43 TELunus It seems to say it's a speed reducer, but it gives specific torque, speed, and voltages.
15:44 rue_house http://www.ampflow.com/
15:44 rue_house http://www.ampflow.com/G43-500_Chart.gif
15:45 rue_house this is a pain to read
15:45 TELunus For the one with no stall torque, we can find the motor charecteristics like so: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=500W+at+3300%2F2+rpm
15:46 rue_house http://www.ampflow.com/G43-500_Chart.gif
15:46 rue_house http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-G43-500.html
15:46 rue_house you would have to gear/encoder it tho
15:47 rue_house just $70usd tho!
15:47 rue_house hahah they have the charts under 'alternate photos'
15:48 TELunus Those charts are weird. The torque increases with speed.
15:49 rue_house its an evil chart,you have to go by torwque and make sure your undert the line
15:49 rue_house everything is read by torque
15:49 rue_house I have to do things!
15:49 TELunus But ya if you assume a peak output power of 500W at half max speed it does quite nicely.
15:49 rue_house google results for "battle bot motor" reveals all sorts of mid sized motor sellers
15:50 rue_house yes,
15:50 rue_house I assume your speed controling it anyhow
15:50 rue_house remember your app is just under 200W by your specs
15:50 TELunus Well, I'll forward this link to my team mate who's "supposed to" be in charge of finding a motor.
15:50 rue_house if thats your peak spec, that motor would barely even be working
15:51 rue_house and you just have to find the right sprocket to get it to the 2:1
15:51 TELunus Apparently I'm supposed to be designing the frame and buying the electronics.
15:51 rue_house what kinda electronics?
15:51 rue_house I just assume your using the really expensive extruded aluminum stuff for the frame
15:51 rue_house the [X] shaped stuff
15:51 TELunus Arduino, crimp pins, housings for the pins at this point.
15:52 TELunus Eventually we'll need a motor controller as well.
15:52 rue_house gee, hard to find an arduino ;)
15:52 rue_house crimp pins?
15:52 TELunus I know right. There are too many suppliers, how am I supposed to choose?
15:53 TELunus male pins that you crimp onto a wire to plug into the arduino.
15:54 rue_house ebay "dupont connector"
15:55 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/251401166358 <-- if you ever need to make a small specific gearbox this kit is AWESOME
15:55 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/40pcs-Dupont-Wire-Color-Jumper-Cabl-2-54mm-1P-1P-Male-to-Female-20cm-New-/181297734457 <-- 40 pcs means a 40 conductor ribbon cable
15:55 rue_house (1)
15:56 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/10PCS-Male-Pins-2-54mm-Long-Dupont-Head-Reed-/231126007737 <-- if you have crimpers
15:56 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200pcs-Male-Female-Pins-2-54mm-Long-Dupont-Head-Reed-Terminal-Plug-T1K-/360767143018
15:58 rue_house the funny thing is, that for all intent and purposes, something like that is sold by SO MANY sellers on ebay, you can call ebay a reliable supplier of them
15:59 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/100-pcs-Dupont-Head-2-54mm-1P-1x1P-Dupont-Plastic-Shell-Pin-Head-Brand-New-/321298868572 <-- clever system, these are for male and female inserts
15:59 rue_house they come in x1 x2 x3 x4 x5 x6 x8 x10
16:00 rue_house TELunus, :) these are the things you learn hacking for long enough
16:01 rue_house if you use a 500w motors for a 200w application, be sure to point out the mtoor is selected for 'long life'
16:02 rue_house about 50 years at that rate
16:02 rue_house (it would be 80 but for revolution limitations on the brushes)
16:03 TELunus For, as you point out the name is, dupont pins I was using this: http://www.pololu.com/product/1931
16:03 TELunus Funny how it doesn't mention dopont.
16:03 rue_house ouch and the prices!
16:04 rue_house ok for 100, better
16:04 rue_house lee's has a crimper for those, its about $30
16:05 rue_house actaully, lees has arduinos and those pins
16:05 TELunus Ya, for 100 of the ebay ones you sent it would be $12.2
16:05 rue_house I didn't sort by price
16:05 rue_house ebay is free shipping too tho
16:05 rue_house (right sellers)
16:05 rue_house but free shipping =~ 22 days
16:06 rue_house depends what priorities are
16:06 rue_house I'm gonna go play int he sun
16:07 TELunus Ya, and lee's is literally an afternoon stroll away from my house, but the arduino price on pololu was better. But come to think of it, lee's won't have shipping. I should get that.
16:15 MrCurious get arduino nano off ebay < $10 each
16:15 MrCurious stock a healthy ssupply on hand
16:15 MrCurious think disposable 8 bit computing
16:17 rue_shop2 TELunus, arduinos go for about $20 on ebay, again, 22 days
16:17 rue_shop2 (mega2560)
16:18 TELunus We're going with an uno. Lee's < 0 days.
16:18 MrCurious http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-Nano-V3-0-ATmega328P-5V-Micro-controller-Board-For-Arduino-compatible-/130977189883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ed94ffb
16:21 rue_shop2 I liek lee's casue if I need 1000 resistors, they are in stock
16:38 MrCurious i just saw a peach slicing machine on tv. reminded me of having canned peach slices in syrup with condensed milk poured over them
16:38 MrCurious caused an insane food memory-craving
21:01 armyofevilrobots https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7168282 jfyi.
21:01 armyofevilrobots freenode is getting hammered.
21:25 rue_more it happens alot, there is a hacker by the handle...
21:26 rue_more anyhow, he has a hate-on for freenode and he controlls a huge comcast botnet
21:26 rue_more that he uses to attack freenode
21:26 rue_more r...
21:27 rue_more ruccas
21:28 rue_more er Rucas,
21:28 rue_more comcast has about a billion routers with a securrity exploit that allow you to use them for all sorts of evil things
21:28 rue_more I told them, they dont care
21:35 rue_more the expoitable routers are asy to find with a simpel port scan
21:35 rue_more of every 253 machines on any comcast subnet, 60 or more can be found that are exploitable
21:36 rue_more oh and the freenode administration has no interest in the issue
21:36 Tom_shop what makes you think that's what it is?
21:36 rue_more most of the ddos sources will be ipv6 machines on comcast
21:40 rue_more you think its gonna be different this time?
21:51 MrCurious ahhh back
21:53 MrCurious guess freenode is having issues today
21:53 rue_more yea
21:53 rue_more rucas has his bots ddosing again
21:53 MrCurious whats a rucas?
21:56 rue_shop2 rucas, to my knowledge, was a freenode admin and a coder for the freenode server, something happened and he got kicked out
21:56 rue_shop2 in the process he claims (iirc) that the death of ..... the old freenode owner is a lie/conspiracy of some sort
21:56 rue_shop2 he hates freenode with a passion
21:56 rue_shop2 he's smart too
21:56 MrCurious sounds like a mental health issue
22:01 rue_shop2 http://irc.dickscab.com/Rucas/Rucas-newer.jpg
22:01 rue_shop2 apparently he dosn't live in one place for more than about 6 months
22:01 rue_shop2 jumps between high paying coding jobs
22:15 robotustra_ rue_house2: do you know him?
22:15 robotustra_ he looks like punk
22:16 robotustra_ menthal punk