#robotics Logs

Jan 27 2014

00:50 rue_house funny, I chose to steal my robot arm design off ABB too
00:50 rue_house I think they ahve good mechanical design
06:46 password2 i take it this is not one of those really active IRC channels
06:47 Auzze no
06:57 Faek Eh
06:57 Faek Those are too busy anyway
06:59 password2 heh
06:59 password2 i like buse rooms
07:00 password2 busy* even
07:09 password2 meh i have only build one simple robot
07:10 Faek 1 more than me
07:10 password2 heh
07:10 Tom_itx few less than me
07:11 password2 it was for a subject of mine , but in all honestly it just a rf controlled car
07:11 Tom_itx doesn't count
07:11 password2 well i programmed the electronis myself
07:12 Tom_itx counts
07:12 password2 and cyborg is one to , but that is more of a assembly
07:12 Faek Programmed the electronics yourself using what?
07:13 password2 the pickit and two PIcs
07:13 password2 i programmed in C
07:13 Tom_itx designed the electronics self, programmed self, built self
07:13 password2 yes
07:14 password2 i was lazy and programmed both the chips identically
07:15 password2 the rf module i received , and would never again use
07:16 password2 it was 2800 baud rate and you had to fill its buffer before it starts sending
07:16 password2 8 bytes long
07:17 password2 next version will have some sensors atleast
07:20 Tom_itx 1st http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/lightseeker/lightseeker_index.php
07:21 Tom_itx 2nd http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/sumo_files/sumo_new_index.php
07:21 Tom_itx 3rd http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/largebot/largebot_index.php
07:21 Tom_itx 4th http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/maxbot/maxbot_index.php
07:21 password2 your first robot looks better than mine , it was cut out of old pc box panels
07:22 password2 i want to add ultrsonic sensing on my next version
07:22 password2 and a bluetooth connection
07:23 password2 l ike the idea that a droid can be a generic interface for projects
07:24 robotustra hm
07:24 robotustra so, we call that thing a robot?
07:25 Tom_itx yes
07:25 robotustra robot came from word "work"
07:25 Tom_itx ok
07:25 robotustra I doubt that it do some useful work
07:26 Tom_itx robot didn't come from 'useful work'
07:26 robotustra oh really?
07:26 robotustra it's just your opinion
07:26 Tom_itx as is yours
07:26 robotustra people forget the first meaning of words
07:27 robotustra like "robot"
07:27 robotustra "humanoid robot"
07:27 robotustra "cyborg"
07:27 Tom_itx those are silly
07:27 robotustra the word robot is too ambigous
07:27 robotustra to general
07:27 robotustra too
07:28 robotustra it's automotive 2-wheeled toy
07:29 password2 like egregious
07:29 password2 hove you guys seen the 3D printing bot?
07:30 password2 *have
07:30 Tom_itx silly
07:30 Tom_itx some tasks can be performed far more efficiently
07:31 Tom_itx robotustra what have you done other than mold a sifi looking face and make it move around?
07:32 Tom_itx does that perform 'work' ?
07:32 password2 yes , it prints
07:32 robotustra not yet
07:33 password2 well , thats the plan
07:33 robotustra But I hope it will some day
07:33 robotustra but your toys could not do a "work" even in theory
07:33 robotustra mine will do some useful work
07:33 Tom_itx they could move material from one place to another
07:34 password2 well it can move itsel from one point to another
07:34 robotustra ok
07:34 password2 thus performing work to relocate itself
07:34 robotustra I was just trolling
07:34 robotustra if you didn't got the joke
07:34 Tom_itx it could be fixed with attachments to perform special tasks
07:34 password2 ah
07:34 Tom_itx yeah and i was calling you on it
07:36 password2 and one of my next bots should have tracks of chainmaille
09:24 rue_house hmm, my next robot arm should wield a sword to smite your chainmaille robot
09:32 adam789654123 the robot tryied to kill the metal, but it was smite to the ground!
09:35 adam789654123 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7U1HIhxfA
09:52 password2 hah
10:33 aemquo Hello all.
10:43 adam789654123 aemquo: hello
10:44 aemquo Up to much?
10:45 adam789654123 trying to finish a proof that a certain strategy will solve a programming problem
10:45 adam789654123 i never really tried to do a formal proof before, so this is new territory for me
10:45 adam789654123 yourself?
10:46 adam789654123 aemquo: yourself?
10:46 aemquo Uh... procrastinating.
10:46 aemquo Should be studying but uh... no thanks.
10:46 adam789654123 what should you be studying?
10:47 aemquo Currently reading a book called "Digital Fundamentals"
10:48 adam789654123 so digital electronics then
10:48 adam789654123 learn anything interesting so far?
10:49 aemquo Sure, but still a lot of work to do. Need to also relearn some mathematics :/
10:49 adam789654123 yeah. relearning mathematics never ends.
10:49 adam789654123 seems like to learn math is to need to relearn some math
10:50 aemquo Heh, I knew a lot when I was younger but havent used it for so long that it's started fading from memory a bit
10:51 adam789654123 if you want to procrastinate productively, check this site out: http://www.tinaja.com/
10:51 aemquo hmm
10:52 adam789654123 http://www.tinaja.com/hhsamp1.shtml
10:52 adam789654123 http://www.tinaja.com/picup01.shtml
10:58 armyofevilrobots omg it's 1996 again!
10:59 aemquo hue hue
10:59 armyofevilrobots good resource though.
11:06 wildmage armyofevilrobots, i think i remember visiting your website many years ago
11:36 armyofevilrobots @wildmage; cools. I have to start updating more often now...
11:43 aemquo armyofevilrobots, Is the above link your site?
12:16 armyofevilrobots no
12:17 adam789654123 uhhhh.... must have been longer then many years ago, maybe never!
12:17 armyofevilrobots wildimage said he visited my site (unless I misunderstood), which is http://armyofevilrobots.com/
12:21 aemquo oic
12:25 password2 speaking bout evil robots , have any of you read he "what if" on what would happen if electronics turned evil?
13:09 aemquo The xkcd what if?
13:16 robotustra password2: "good" or "evil" are categories which are not connected with electronics
13:17 password2 robotustra: and?
13:18 robotustra and there is no problem with this
13:18 robotustra it's just human perception
13:18 password2 yes
13:18 robotustra how to treat it, good or bad
13:18 password2 but you can argue that towards fellow humans too
13:19 password2 http://what-if.xkcd.com/5/
13:19 password2 I found that article entertaining
13:20 robotustra robots are very fragile and not selfsustanable artefacts which could not do any harm to humans
13:21 robotustra it's the stare of modern robotics
13:22 robotustra till the time robots do not take a desicions - you cann ot treat them as "evil"
13:22 robotustra they just reflect the ideas of creators
13:22 password2 robotustra: did you read the article?
13:22 robotustra who can be really EVIL
13:22 robotustra have no time
13:23 robotustra I'm at work
13:23 password2 ah
13:23 password2 anyway it describes the hypothetical situation if robots did turn against humanity
13:24 robotustra so, the answer depends on the quantity and quality of robots
13:25 password2 yes
13:25 robotustra if they will be cleverer than humans and can reproduce - humans are dead
13:25 robotustra it's just kids question
13:25 robotustra the answer is evident
13:26 password2 the answer is not the point of what-if
13:26 password2 most of the time hestarts with the answer
13:26 password2 and then explain the reasoning
13:27 password2 and its by now means a serious article
13:27 robotustra does this ideas stop you from making robots?
13:27 password2 nope
13:27 robotustra and especially clever robots?
13:27 password2 nope
13:28 robotustra so, why you waste the time on reading stupid articles?
13:28 robotustra why do
13:28 password2 its called entertainment, something you might consider
13:28 robotustra instead of working on your robot?
13:28 password2 because i'm not a badger
13:29 robotustra don't you find that humans entertain too much and should be exterminated because of this?
13:29 password2 -_-
13:32 password2 my first H-Bridge i built was slightly over spec
13:32 password2 40A rating for 400mA motors
13:33 password2 i took a 1ohm 1 watt resistor and gave it 100W
13:45 password2 why is it so expensive to build bots
13:45 password2 i'm always broke
14:23 armyofevilrobots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djc8FPHs45o
14:29 password2 that is awesome
16:44 Elleo I know most of you folks are mostly in to the hardware/low level control side of things, but if anyone's interested a new (open access) journal article featuring some of my higher level cognitive learning stuff was just published: http://www.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fnbot.2014.00001/abstract
21:37 GargantuaSauce Elleo: sweet
21:38 GargantuaSauce robotustra: you'll want to see that also http://www.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fnbot.2014.00001/abstract
21:46 Elleo :)