#robotics Logs

Jan 21 2014

00:00 orlock you know there are prisms on the moon we shoot lasers at?
00:00 MrCurious but that device has no scatter
00:00 GargantuaSauce false
00:00 MrCurious it bounces it back to its source, arbitrary of source location
00:01 doomlord_ you want to see the moon lit up with advertisments...
00:01 doomlord_ you're taking the piss, aren't you
00:01 orlock MrCurious: and its STILL hard to pick up what bounces back
00:01 MrCurious doomlord_: meh 50:50
00:01 doomlord_ i want to see the moon utilized somehow
00:01 doomlord_ for not for brainwashing
00:01 MrCurious screw going to mars... lets bring the moon into th ad words network!
00:02 GargantuaSauce interstellar spacecraft foundry please
00:03 doomlord_ yeah something like that
00:03 doomlord_ solar powerstation, offworld manufacture, crash asteroids into it..
00:03 doomlord_ telepresence robots (i know its 1sec lag or something)
00:04 MrCurious could make speeches at the UN more memorable, giant talking heads on the moon
00:07 MrCurious hitting the moon with constant kinetic eneergy may not prove mankinds smartest move
00:07 doomlord_ perhaps you could dice up the asteroids in orbit with lasers and drop them down in manageable chunks
00:08 MrCurious i am sure there is enough metal on te moon for our needs
00:08 doomlord_ i heard there's a deficiency of carbon on the moon, and 'c-type asteroids' with carbon compounds
00:08 doomlord_ deficiency in 'volatiles', all the lighter elements, but plenty of metals and silicon as you say
00:14 MrCurious seems a great place to build a space ship factory, having 1/6 gravity and all
00:14 doomlord_ definitely
00:15 doomlord_ ceres is another possibility
00:15 doomlord_ they think it has water
00:15 doomlord_ much further away though
00:16 MrCurious i imagine if you tunnel down a few hundred feet, the crust would prove air tight
00:16 doomlord_ although they say its not about distance, its about energy. its still quite hard to put things on the moon, because you have to soft land
00:17 doomlord_ to put someting on the moon.. your mass is multiplied by the cost of fuel to soft land there
00:18 MrCurious unless you could work out a way to off load the soft land task to th moon
00:18 doomlord_ we need devices capable of resource extraction
00:18 MrCurious say with a shaft with a series of nets
00:18 MrCurious like how cariers stop jets when landing
00:18 doomlord_ ok laser propulsion or somethng..
00:18 MrCurious solar steam catapults to escape lunar gravity
00:19 MrCurious i think we need to get a foot hold on the moon.
00:19 MrCurious from there we can easily step off to further
00:19 doomlord_ it might actually be more feasible to tow asteroids back
00:20 doomlord_ or get a foothold on ceres where the landing problem isn't so great
00:20 doomlord_ much bigger telecoms lag though, so the robots there need to be much smarter
00:25 MrCurious or drop a base into the lagrange point between earth and sun or earth and moon
00:27 doomlord_ heh, could we tow ceres back there :)
00:27 doomlord_ that could be a bit.. er.. risky though
00:27 Duzz i think expensive comes to mind first
00:27 doomlord_ maybe some advanced reptilian civilization reached this point 60million years ago
00:28 doomlord_ people need to live longer to harness space.. long term projects
00:29 Duzz government needs to focus on things that may not payoff within 4years
00:29 doomlord_ people so far have predominantly been operating on a basis of saying "fuck the next generation", so inter-generational projects probably wont do it
00:30 doomlord_ "lets' live beyond our means and leave the next gen with debt and environmental damage"
00:30 doomlord_ if people's lifespan could be extended to 150,200.. perhaps we'd be working more on space projects
00:32 doomlord_ i think to make a dent in space you need to think on 50+ year timeframes
00:32 MrCurious or as robots replacec us all, perhaps we could all study, and work towards such grand goals, simply out of boredom, and lack of other meaningful work
00:33 doomlord_ i think we have the knowledge, we lack the resources and/or economic incentive
00:34 doomlord_ resources could be solved by doing it slowly, passing it on between generations
00:34 doomlord_ the idea is, we need to escape the sun's expansion.. if it took 1000's of years, its still viable
00:35 doomlord_ at least consumer demand has given us all the advancement in miniaturizing electronics
01:13 MrCurious huge, tightly coupled software stacks that dont come with automated installers tweek me off
08:30 NiksenX_ Hello guys, I'm trying to build mechanical system to control laser with two motors. Have you ever faced with similar systems in mass production?
08:30 NiksenX_ like laser projectors
08:58 rue_house how fast do you want to do the postion control?
08:59 NiksenX_ speed is not crucial. It can be less than you are moving laser by hand
09:02 rue_house angular resoltution?
09:02 e_house tries to wak
09:02 rue_house NiksenX_, would 1/400 of a degree be ok?
09:03 rue_house er that would be 1 degree, sorry
09:20 NiksenX_ rue_house yes
09:21 NiksenX_ rue_house right now servo gives me about 1/2 of degree
09:24 rue_house must be using 10 bit
19:31 voukoto Good evening. A) Has anyone used prolog on a robotics project? B) Any suggested speech recognition software that can run on gnu/linux (preferably free software)?
19:57 robotustra_ my former boss has bought a speach recognition system for 60K
19:57 robotustra_ and it still were very poor
19:57 robotustra_ if you want it for free - write it yourself
19:58 robotustra_ what about prolog, I was thinking to use it
19:58 robotustra_ inside AI
20:10 voukoto It's the "write it yourself" part I don't get. I'll have to find out how I can use cmu sphinx or something, right?
20:21 robotustra_ lazy people around us
20:21 robotustra_ they don't want to do anything
20:22 robotustra_ just want everything for free
20:22 robotustra_ and outbox solution
20:22 robotustra_ what a sad world
20:53 Duzz although at the same time the out of the box solutions has made the hobby community much larger than it has been in the past
21:27 gushhtab Robotustra you are the sad one!
21:29 robotustra_ :)
21:29 robotustra_ no
21:29 robotustra_ I'd just read sad article
21:29 robotustra_ about human lazyness
21:30 gushhtab Oh?
21:30 gushhtab I'm writing this from the bathroom must be true that article
21:32 robotustra_ waterproof laptop?
21:32 robotustra_ or you are shitting?
21:32 gushhtab Didn't say shower
21:33 gushhtab Tablet + toilet. But showcases I bet most people you talk to are naked or worse
21:33 robotustra_ computers are stealing our lifes and сфзфишдшешуы
21:33 gushhtab Err but anyway
21:34 robotustra_ capabilities
21:34 gushhtab Stupid auto complete
21:34 robotustra_ Stive Jobs did this shit with us
21:34 gushhtab He did coke with us?
21:34 robotustra_ imbiciles, zombies
21:35 robotustra_ he connected us to matrix
21:35 gushhtab Ah that sounds shootable
21:35 gushhtab Zombies
21:36 robotustra_ 99% of people in the bus read iphones
21:36 robotustra_ or androids
21:36 robotustra_ zombies
21:36 robotustra_ dead meet
21:36 robotustra_ reading stops thinking process
21:36 gushhtab I drink icecream in the bus
21:37 gushhtab A dude sells it..
21:37 gushhtab Best bus ride ever
21:37 robotustra_ it's better than read iphone
21:38 gushhtab I don't own a single Apple product
21:38 robotustra_ me neither
21:38 robotustra_ I hate Apple
21:38 orlock i threw away my powerbook
21:38 orlock should have kept it
21:38 orlock it was one of the sony ones
21:38 Faek I have an ipad2. Didn't buy it though
21:39 robotustra_ but stupid sheeps still owes apples
21:40 robotustra_ I intentionally don't buy any smartphne-tablet shit computers
21:40 gushhtab Fake guilty
21:40 gushhtab Err faek
21:40 robotustra_ shoot him
21:41 gushhtab I have a tablet for work related things
21:41 gushhtab Them
21:41 robotustra_ any shit computer is just pumping money from people
21:41 robotustra_ and brain as well
21:41 Faek I didn't buy it (was free cause uni) and it'd be a waste to chuck it
21:42 robotustra_ Faek: what can you say about time spending on it?
21:42 gushhtab I would shoot it for you
21:42 robotustra_ yet another shit computer http://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-3-5-inch-sbc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-haswell/
21:42 Faek Well i'm on it now
21:42 robotustra_ may be someone could use it for robotict
21:42 Faek I use it for IRC
21:43 robotustra_ Feak: you want to make it useful?
21:43 robotustra_ but it has no keyboard
21:43 Faek Eh. I don't find it that hard to type on. I can basically touch type on it
21:43 robotustra_ and you just WAST two times more time just to type on this shit
21:44 gushhtab Lol
21:44 gushhtab I do
21:44 Faek I don't like writing essays on it though
21:44 robotustra_ waist
21:44 Faek It's quite easy to type on, just have to have it landscape so the keyboard is bigger
21:44 gushhtab Essay is that what all Mexicans wa?
21:44 gushhtab Say
21:44 gushhtab Wtf
21:44 Faek (i only made 1 error in that last sentence which is probably about the norm)
21:45 Faek Essay/report/etc
21:45 gushhtab Lol
21:45 robotustra_ bad wifi
21:45 robotustra_ yet another shitty technology
21:45 gushhtab Im still
21:45 gushhtab On
21:45 Faek Oops crashed the app - the apps fault not the ipad
21:45 robotustra_ Faek: bad wifi?
21:45 robotustra_ haha
21:45 gushhtab Lol
21:45 gushhtab You Apple Fagan
21:46 Faek Nah. You can swipe between channels but if you swipe when its the last channel in the list...
21:46 gushhtab Fag
21:46 robotustra_ yet another comfirmation that it's a toy
21:46 robotustra_ say hello to Steve Jobs
21:46 robotustra_ hope he's revolving in the coffin
21:46 gushhtab I cant type but at least I don't crash
21:46 gushhtab Steve mobs
21:47 Faek You guys are determined to be anti-apple
21:47 Faek I'm not saying i'd buy one but that it works pretty adequately for my purposes
21:47 gushhtab Porn?
21:48 robotustra_ because Steve Jobs highly reduced your demands
21:48 Faek No
21:48 robotustra_ or you was restricted by yourself
21:48 gushhtab He was a druggie
21:49 robotustra_ I recently read an interview of Steve Voznjak about film of Jobs 2013
21:49 robotustra_ it was total lie
21:49 orlock Wozniak
21:49 robotustra_ thanks
21:49 gushhtab Boop beep off to watch something more interesting
21:49 orlock "The Woz"
21:50 gushhtab Buzz
21:50 robotustra_ sure
21:50 robotustra_ ok, let me see an episode of "person of interest"
21:50 robotustra_ yet another 45 min out from my life
21:54 GuShH_ robotustra: which one?
21:56 GuShH_ lathe and tooling supplier changed their payment policies... idiots
21:56 robotustra_ s1e5
21:56 GuShH_ oh
21:56 GuShH_ I've watched season 1 years ago
21:57 robotustra_ I just started
21:57 GuShH_ 1... 2 years actually
21:57 GuShH_ I probably forgot the entire season by now
21:58 robotustra_ yeah, useless spending of time
21:58 MrCurious time to do battle with openstack
21:59 GuShH_ openballsack
21:59 ShH_ grabs a k
21:59 GuShH_ you first.
22:00 robotustra_ MrCurious, I'm just curious how much time did you spend on openstack?
22:01 gushhtab Its open dude!
22:01 gushhtab Lets spend hours on it!
22:03 MrCurious and i have created and booted an instance of VM using it
22:04 gushhtab Ooh fancy
22:04 shhtab stares at Th
22:04 gushhtab What I wrote thebear!
22:05 gushhtab Whats a Thebes
22:07 MrCurious isnt thebes a place from the bible?
22:08 gushhtab Eeeeew
22:10 shhtab sets Mrcurious on
22:11 MrCurious just dont throw stones
22:11 MrCurious i hate getting stoned
22:13 gushhtab Fire is enough
22:21 theBear what u wrote !
22:21 theBear i know what a thesbian is, they got bulldogs and they look like ugly men
22:28 GuShH_ no those are mesbians!
22:53 MrCurious i thought thesbians were fancy lads who liked theater
23:18 theBear that's crazy talk
23:29 MrCurious thats one of mu specialties
23:29 MrCurious i also offer services such as sarchasm and ridicule
23:29 GargantuaSauce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlPERVTUS0
23:31 MrCurious MATRIX!!!!!