#robotics Logs
Dec 20 2013
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00:11 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/
00:14 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/p1050598.jpg <-- sorry,, the iamges are a bit out of date
00:14 MrCurious1 no.. to the kinematics
00:14 rue_house bits of C and sudo code shoudl be in there
00:15 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/ik/
00:15 rue_house the math library is there
00:15 rue_house from there, the kinematics are easy, and i ahve a qbasic program converted, somewhere with the motion alg
00:16 rue_house its not amazing, its just the result of doing it right, all the code I'v seen uses the wrong reference framing
00:16 rue_house I'm building buddy to test the code on
00:16 rue_house he was started long before hobby servos were as cheap as they are
00:18 MrCurious1 sry rue, saw this (8:14:57 PM) rue_house: someone got tyhe kinematics right and thoughttherewas video
00:19 rue_house I was talking about toms link
00:19 MrCurious1 ahhh
00:19 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vVblGlIMgw&feature=youtu.be
00:19 rue_house they did the kinematics right
00:24 MrCurious1 adams octopod?
00:24 MrCurious1 i am interested in a teardown
00:25 MrCurious1 3 hours.. nice work
00:25 GargantuaSauce it uses HS-35HD servos
00:26 MrCurious1 26 micro otors with gears, cluter mounted, then wired with wires and springs
00:26 MrCurious1 very clever
00:26 Jak_o_Shadows The wiring would be a pain.
00:26 MrCurious1 i bet when you combine 18 servos into a bus, you can make it much simpler/cheaper electronics
00:27 Jak_o_Shadows Yeah, you wouldn't be running wires everywhere.
00:27 MrCurious1 3 wires per lleg
00:27 MrCurious1 even with sheeths, each leg could be thin
00:28 GargantuaSauce i dont think they do anything of the sort
00:28 GargantuaSauce http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5800/icmwg98/products/77/images/279/T8_uC_Board_Top_Hi_Res__66999.1378738660.1280.1280.jpg
00:28 MrCurious1 your right, they dont
00:28 GargantuaSauce looks like off the shelf servos and the usual 3 wires each
00:28 Jak_o_Shadows whyyyyyyy
00:29 GargantuaSauce i think a better whyyyyy would be directed at the choice of xbee
00:29 MrCurious1 i have seen adams bot several times, didnt think it was all that, but clearly, its a kick sarter cutting edge heck it out vid
00:29 GargantuaSauce All computations are safely hidden from the user in the form of a black box.
00:29 GargantuaSauce oh yeah i forgot closed source is a feature
00:30 Jak_o_Shadows I wonder if you could modify the individually addressed LED light chip to do servos.
00:31 Jak_o_Shadows Have the GND, +ve, data.
00:32 GargantuaSauce i am pretty sure those just work like a big shift register
00:32 GargantuaSauce so while you're pushing out new values you can get spurious outputs
00:32 MrCurious1 ok, i want to see a 6 motor cluster, with optimizationns to controll 6 motor/servo at a chip... that to make a centipede
00:33 MrCurious1 add a fast spine bus
00:33 GargantuaSauce which is fine if you're just turning on an led for a few microseconds, but would make servos freak out
00:33 MrCurious1 i bet you could get a cecntipeede that could jump....
00:34 MrCurious1 no. a six servo driver chip, ,can busdriven with unique id, or take 3, pass rest bus scheme
00:35 Jak_o_Shadows Why wouldn't you hook up a bunch of tiny little surface mount uCs, instead of dragging so many wires back?
00:36 GargantuaSauce i think servos as a unit make the most sense
00:38 Jak_o_Shadows Surely having 3 or 4 wires going back is just nicer? Plus, no pesky extension cables. If i had more motivation, i'd get this working on the msp430.
00:45 GargantuaSauce servos as a unit does not preclude having a sane interface
00:45 GargantuaSauce there are plenty out there that have bidirectional serial interfaces
00:45 GargantuaSauce each is addressed on one bus
00:46 GargantuaSauce AND you get position and current feedback
00:46 GargantuaSauce it frustrates me to no end that rc-style servos are the only ones remotely accessible on a diy budget
00:47 GargantuaSauce because they are garbage, really
01:52 Hukka Just a matter of definition
01:52 Hukka I would call the cheapest robotics servos still well in diy budget
01:52 Hukka Especially when bought second hand
06:37 Tom_itx http://www.electronicproducts.com/Electromechanical_Components/Motors_and_Controllers/Robots_so_realistic_they_think_they_39_re_not_robots.aspx
09:20 scipy53 Hi everyone. I am looking for a motor system for a robot I am building and would appreciate some help. For example, I was looking at this motor: http://zymotors.en.alibaba.com/product/667520629-213783919/45mm_brushless_planetary_gear_motor_ZYM_45P_50_24120_with_controller_for_electric_bicycle.html
09:20 scipy53 Motor + gearbox sytem, rather
09:21 scipy53 And it's based on a brushless system, but the listing seems to imply that it comes with a "controller" (maybe embedded inside?).
09:22 scipy53 I wanted to know if that is truly the case, and all I'd need to do is supply power and the proper logic.
09:22 scipy53 Thanks a lot :)
09:44 rue_house work called in a snow day!
09:50 rue_bed scipy53, hi
09:52 scipy53 rue_bed, hey
09:54 joga http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/humanoids/darpa-robotics-challenge-watch-it-live (live now)
12:26 MrCurious i think a large multi-engined vehicle struck me while i wasnt looking last night
12:43 rue_house "Dont be worried, I am a rescue robot, I am going to get you out of here. You will not fit thru the path out, so I will have to remove you in peices, I will start by removing your arm."
12:45 MrCurious was that from I robot?
12:45 rue_house no
12:46 MrCurious suppose it beats being saved by an organ recovery robot
12:46 rue_house hehehee
12:47 rue_house oh no, snow is gonna kill the power
12:47 MrCurious this looks rather tempting until you get to the WINCE part
12:47 rue_house this would be annoying, I dont have my 5kw ups working
12:47 MrCurious http://www.dailysteals.com/icemonkey/#d/15861
12:48 MrCurious dont think of it as GLOBAL WARMING, its better to think of it as GLOBAL STORMING
12:50 rue_house I have a question, there are billions of humans in the world, why do robots ahve to be completely autonomous?
12:50 rue_house dont get me wrong, semi-autonomous is great
12:50 MrCurious are you proposing having robots controled by robots?
12:51 rue_house hmm, interesting idea
12:51 rue_house "hey FRED, how do I navigate over these bricks?" "give me your body for a min and I'll show you"
13:00 MrCurious sounds an interesting project. a system for facilitating remote m2m access between robots
13:01 MrCurious a metadata layer that rovides accesss to both actuator and the learned control patterns associated with them
13:01 MrCurious sounds like a great thesis
13:03 MrCurious wonder if vindaloo is a good idea as a firsst meal after a severe hangover
13:06 rue_house ok, well, looks like the snow is just gonna keep piling up
13:06 MrCurious as opposed to?
13:06 rue_house I think I'm gonna write knock detection for the mega32
13:07 MrCurious make a snow robot
13:42 MrCurious made a burito out of vindaloo and rice. was insanely good and not messy to eat
13:42 MrCurious why can i not buy those pre made, or in restaraunts....
13:52 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: burrito?
13:52 GuShH_Lap because most restaurants you go to are probably big chains and they don't know what real food is
13:55 MrCurious it was super good
13:55 MrCurious vindaloo-burito
13:55 GuShH_Lap well if it's indian then it's not mexican sorry.
13:55 GuShH_Lap but indians have wraps, I don't know what they're called...
13:56 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: "bombay wraps"
13:56 GuShH_Lap I think most regions have one sort of wrap or another
13:56 GuShH_Lap but for instance in Asia they're mostly fried
13:56 MrCurious its a fusionstyle food
13:57 ShH_Lap stabs MrCur
13:57 GuShH_Lap I began to make french fries with lard.... awesome stuff.
13:57 MrCurious aloo-punjabi in a wrap woulld be the bomb
13:57 GuShH_Lap the temperature goes way higher and the rest of the oil doesn't smoke, you get a crisp unburnt surface
13:57 rue_house damn, I think I delted the knock code I rewrote
13:58 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: is your wife indian?
13:58 ShH_Lap hits "u
13:58 GuShH_Lap an IDE I've been using for a while has recently implemented (well the devs did) a coding history
13:58 GuShH_Lap pretty neat feature.
13:58 GuShH_Lap it not only recovers your lost files/code it also keeps track of it's history like an unattended repository
13:59 rue_house I think I killed the editor without saving, cause I thought there was no way I hadn't already saved it
13:59 GuShH_Lap uncheck "ask to save before closing" heh
13:59 Tom_itx GuShH_Lap, http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/engrave1.jpg
13:59 rue_house I remember seing it still up aclosing it
13:59 GuShH_Lap or rather, do check it.
13:59 rue_house wow, major power blink
13:59 rue_house ....
13:59 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/engrave2.jpg
13:59 rue_house you may lose me
13:59 Tom_itx new bits
14:00 ShH_Lap grabs rue_house's hand N
14:00 GuShH_Lap Tom_itx: that's awesome
14:00 rue_house my internet path has full backup, but only for so long
14:00 rue_house for example I lost *this* monitor...
14:00 GuShH_Lap did you get contrast by using paint?
14:00 Tom_itx no
14:01 GuShH_Lap chemical?
14:01 rue_house I have now dragged the irc window to the monitor thats on the ups
14:01 GuShH_Lap light?
14:01 GuShH_Lap MAGIC?
14:01 Tom_itx just the tool path
14:01 MrCurious lost power?
14:01 rue_house yea
14:01 GuShH_Lap awww
14:01 rue_house power went out for about 1.5 secs
14:01 rue_house black
14:01 MrCurious nice to know irc is a priority process :D
14:01 GuShH_Lap if it makes you feel any better my country is currently ongoing an energetic crysis
14:01 GuShH_Lap or is it crisis, stupid game.
14:01 GuShH_Lap it should be.
14:02 GuShH_Lap lots of blown up transformers due to overloads
14:02 GuShH_Lap and they've been talking about programmed blackouts
14:02 rue_house the speakers kept going...
14:02 GuShH_Lap to ease the load....
14:02 MrCurious is that because poor people do illegal hookups?
14:02 GuShH_Lap rue_house: caps!
14:02 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: no, because most people have AC units
14:02 GuShH_Lap and we had a temperature peak, they were all turned on
14:02 e_house checks whats been plugged into the UPS power bars since the last ou
14:03 GuShH_Lap poof, no actual grid protection on the low voltage side in most regions
14:03 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: this translates to people losing their food, etc. no happy xmas.
14:03 rue_house its funny
14:03 rue_house if more people had solar cells it could balance out
14:03 rue_house hotter it gets, the more power available
14:03 GuShH_Lap oh and we've had darwin around the block a few times, people dying from carbon monoxide poisoning due to their gensets
14:03 GuShH_Lap rue_house: could it?
14:03 GuShH_Lap too expensive here.
14:04 GuShH_Lap otherwise I would have the roof covered up
14:04 GuShH_Lap I will eventually build a solar water heater though
14:04 rue_house we are at 6.9c/kwh and its borderline
14:04 rue_house if you pay more than that for power, its worth it
14:04 GuShH_Lap ok that's cost, but we're talking load
14:04 MrCurious sounds surprisingly third-world-y
14:04 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: as if it never happened in your country silly.
14:05 GuShH_Lap I'm at a least populated area, so we don't load the grid as much
14:05 rue_house 'turn on the tap and an unlimited amount of water will flow from it'?
14:05 GuShH_Lap it will, but what's that question got to do with anything?
14:05 rue_house I do regular generator tests for a reason
14:05 rue_house ... hmm, but I'm almost out of gas for it...
14:05 MrCurious we have outages, but not brown outs
14:05 GuShH_Lap rue_house: I have sensors for that
14:06 GuShH_Lap I said Darwin for a reason
14:06 GuShH_Lap people using gensets as if they were coolers or fans... INDOORS without proper exhausts
14:06 MrCurious i think your more ikely to die in a bridge colappse than a power outage
14:06 GuShH_Lap and even then they may outgas anyway
14:06 rue_house I wonder how big the collector/emitter would have to be to get a kw from a ground/air sterling engine
14:06 GuShH_Lap MrCurious: sounds third world-y to me
14:06 GuShH_Lap sterlings are useless
14:07 rue_house not so much, there are some pretty good sized ones out there
14:07 GuShH_Lap I always wanted to make one but I can't find a reason.
14:07 GuShH_Lap I do have a big-ish genset which I haven't used in many years other than for welding in distant places at home
14:07 GuShH_Lap not a diesel though, wish I had one of those.
14:08 GuShH_Lap Wouldn't want to buy a chinese one... would you trust it?
14:08 GuShH_Lap Mines a Honda made in friggin Japan.
14:08 Tom_itx i got a snapper
14:08 Tom_itx 5600w
14:09 Tom_itx 8000 surge
14:09 GuShH_Lap that's around the size of mine
14:09 GuShH_Lap 4 stroke gasoline
14:09 Tom_itx ohv
14:09 GuShH_Lap yes
14:09 GuShH_Lap even my water pump is OHV
14:09 GuShH_Lap but I've never used it...
14:09 GuShH_Lap still mint in the box
14:09 GuShH_Lap I don't even have the adapters for the hoses I do have, which are slightly smaller diameter
14:09 GuShH_Lap I've been thinking about running the genset on propane, or at least having the means to... any thoughts?
14:10 GuShH_Lap in case I do need to run it for extended periods of time
14:10 GuShH_Lap a propane bottle costs almost nothing to refill
14:10 GuShH_Lap the 10KG ones
14:10 GuShH_Lap (alright it's not a refill it's a swap)
14:10 GuShH_Lap I never worked out the operational cost vs gasoline though
14:11 ShH_Lap has heard about people running their tractors and mowers on propane but wonders if it's worth it at
14:11 Tom_itx pedal power
14:11 GuShH_Lap haha
14:11 GuShH_Lap gasoline isn't cheep around here
14:11 Tom_itx don't you wish you could harness the energy of women's chatter
14:12 GuShH_Lap around 6 usd a gallon at best
14:12 GuShH_Lap yes! we could power the world forever!
14:13 GuShH_Lap however I would not buy from ESSO stations, I know for a fact their tanks are rusty.
14:13 GuShH_Lap SHELL is around 7 bucks a gal
14:13 rue_house prolly same delivery truck
14:13 Tom_itx when i was on caymen the gas was around $8 usd
14:14 GuShH_Lap rue_house: no, but they either don't have inline filters or their main tanks are rusty (not the delivery those should be stainless) as you get impurities in the fuel
14:14 GuShH_Lap Tom_itx: Diesel is not much cheaper, but it is cheaper still.
14:14 GuShH_Lap It used to be HALF the cost of gasoline around here, but not anymore.
14:14 GuShH_Lap actually premium diesel costs more than "super" gasoline
14:15 GuShH_Lap it's nuts.
14:15 GuShH_Lap don't ask me about the octane on "super" I don't know.
14:15 GuShH_Lap no idea on the heptane levels either, do I look like a chemist to you!
14:15 ShH_Lap idly blows up the kit
14:17 GuShH_Lap just looked it up, 92-94 for "super"
14:17 rue_house I suppose I rewrote the code once, I can do it again
14:17 GuShH_Lap normal/ regular around here is 87 to 89
14:17 GuShH_Lap and diesel on heptane levels is worse, you never really know what you're getting
14:17 GuShH_Lap it fluctuates a lot, but this I'm talking out of first hand experience
14:17 GuShH_Lap you can _tell_ the difference from one tank to the other
14:17 rue_house oh damn the boiler controller rebooted
14:18 rue_house why isn't that on a UPS?
14:18 GuShH_Lap oh noes, what's it's brownout protocol?
14:18 GuShH_Lap no rtc?
14:18 ShH_Lap hugs his fully analog "control
14:18 rue_house it shoudl be sitting there going "damnit, I have no power to control the firebox"
14:18 GuShH_Lap how cold is it over there?
14:18 GuShH_Lap if I go outside I will melt within a minute.
14:19 rue_house grr, the regulator script it running, but its not
14:19 rue_house I need to rewrite all the utilities to deamonize themselvs
14:19 GuShH_Lap meth addict heaven http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh3CEpRPOV4
14:21 GuShH_Lap ...or bomb maker's heaven.
14:22 rue_house hah, I love it when I inadvertantly background a vi session I just started
14:22 rue_house vi foo.txt &
14:23 GuShH_Lap I'm surprised they didn't off themselves.
14:24 rue_house ok, ok...
14:24 rue_house IO board process, running,
14:24 rue_house relay bank controller process, running,
14:25 rue_house thermal logging process, running,
14:25 rue_house thermal regulator process, running,
14:25 rue_house anti-freeze process, running....
14:25 rue_house is that everyone?
14:25 rue_house I dont know why init cant properly start these
14:26 rue_house housePumpOff
14:26 rue_house draftOn
14:26 rue_house GetExh
14:26 rue_house ExhaustTemp 11.0
14:26 rue_house draftOn
14:26 rue_house housePumpOn
14:26 rue_house draftOn
14:26 rue_house BlowerAuto
14:26 GuShH_Lap WaxOn
14:26 rue_house ^^ this looks like more normal message service banter
14:26 GuShH_Lap WaxOff
14:26 GuShH_Lap rue_house: it's good to know we can freeze you to death by power switching your house
14:27 rue_house na, I have the gas furnace going
14:27 rue_house on account that SOMEONE didn't cut enough firewood
14:27 rue_house the large pile in the driveway is a testiment to that
14:27 ShH_Lap points at the
14:27 GuShH_Lap Hrmm I have little piles of wood everywhere
14:27 rue_house now, on to important things
14:28 rue_house http://grathio.com/assets/secret_knock_detector.pde
14:28 rue_house converting code...
14:28 rue_house hey wait, maybe what I saw WAS the conversion
14:29 rue_house hah, it is, I just didn't get about to cleaning it up
14:31 rue_house I guess if there is an outage I have to pull gas fro the truck
14:31 rue_house good thing I just filled it up
14:31 GuShH_Lap just add a fitting so you can hook it up to a fuel hose directly to the genset!
14:31 rue_house according to the LM75, its still 1.5c out
14:32 rue_house GuShH_Lap, about 100 feet horizontal and 15 feet verticle
14:32 GuShH_Lap bah
14:32 rue_house I have to mount the existing tank 4 feet up to get enough fuel pressure to run it now
14:32 GuShH_Lap "Borgward Isabella" the hell is that thing
14:33 GuShH_Lap I've never even seen one
14:33 GuShH_Lap 61
14:33 GuShH_Lap 1.5L 75HP 4 speed manual
14:33 GuShH_Lap not bad
14:34 GuShH_Lap 1 ton
14:34 rue_house 1.5L with a 4speed
14:34 GuShH_Lap oh god the cabriolet coupe is amazing
14:34 rue_house geez, my work van is 2.5L with a 3 speed and I thought THAT was bad
14:34 GuShH_Lap if I could I would buy this 2 door sedan and convert it.
14:34 rue_house is it made by FORD?
14:34 GuShH_Lap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgward_Isabella
14:34 GuShH_Lap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/2005-08-27_Isabella_Coup%C3%A9_Cabrio_%28bearb%29jpg.JPG
14:35 GuShH_Lap that's just beautiful.
14:35 rue_house oh its old
14:35 GuShH_Lap 1961
14:35 GuShH_Lap good luck finding spares here.
14:35 rue_house I found a wheel nut!
14:35 rue_house two!
14:35 GuShH_Lap oh different body line
14:35 rue_house 4!.... 5!
14:35 rue_house I found a wheel!
14:36 rue_house oh... oh dear...
14:36 ShH_Lap bl
14:37 GuShH_Lap rue_house: best "work truck" I could find was an 81 Mitsubishi L200 that was probably used to carry frozen mammoths.
14:37 rue_house heh
14:37 GuShH_Lap I like the front end on those
14:37 GuShH_Lap but other than that ....
14:38 rue_house the mercadies (ram) sprinters have an amazingly small turning radius
14:38 GuShH_Lap 3900 usd for the borgward.. jeeze
14:39 rue_house so I'm thinking of 'knock' controlled light switches
14:39 GuShH_Lap rue_house: they do?
14:39 rue_house in the livingroom
14:39 GuShH_Lap those are massive beasts
14:39 GuShH_Lap never seen a cheap one
14:39 rue_house I know, they have a better turning radius than a grand caravan
14:40 GuShH_Lap oh but there are also utilitarian "sprinters"
14:40 rue_house which has to be 2/3 the size or smaller
14:40 GuShH_Lap way smaller
14:40 rue_house recently, yes
14:40 rue_house the ford one is crap
14:40 GuShH_Lap our "school buses" ARE sprinters.
14:40 GuShH_Lap they paint them orange and white.
14:40 GuShH_Lap it's nice kids get AC and comfy seats
14:40 GuShH_Lap we used to ride on actual busses with no AC.
14:41 GuShH_Lap then again most public transport (bus, train, subway) here do have AC now adays
14:41 GuShH_Lap http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/combi-transporte-escolar-minibus-sprinter-habilitada-9195-MLA20012145811_112013-F.jpg
14:42 rue_house wow, this code is a mess
14:42 GuShH_Lap pro tip: never buy one of those
14:42 GuShH_Lap you'll find chewing gum and stuck candy everywhere, as well as dry puke.
14:42 rue_house http://paste.debian.net/72007/
14:42 GuShH_Lap seats are often all cut up, the whole interior is always a mess
14:43 GuShH_Lap rue_house: how long is the pattern?
14:43 rue_house it can be up to 20 knocks
14:43 GuShH_Lap any lock-out time?
14:43 GuShH_Lap if not I could make a random knocker and eventually break in!
14:43 rue_house not this
14:43 rue_house from what I see in the code, its pretty damn good
14:43 GuShH_Lap knock knock knock knock knock knock knock knock
14:44 GuShH_Lap can it tell if you're knocking with your hand or someone's head?
14:44 rue_house every interval is 1-100, its like a 20 number password, every number 1-100
14:44 rue_house this is just the core, I gutted out the rest
14:44 rue_house you could use a pushbutton if you wanted
14:44 GuShH_Lap oh and most private ambulances here are sprinters as well
14:45 GuShH_Lap push buttons make it easy to interface digitally and bust in quickly!
14:45 rue_house usa has prevate ambulances?
14:45 GuShH_Lap Who said I'm in the US
14:45 rue_house GuShH_Lap, no, the timing has to be moderatly close
14:45 GuShH_Lap the US ambulances are not sprinters that much I know
14:45 rue_house where are you?
14:45 GuShH_Lap Argentina
14:45 rue_house off saturn?
14:45 rue_house er, nevermind
14:46 GuShH_Lap rue_house: private "ambulance" http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/ambulancia-m-benz-sprinter-mod-2000-8655-MLA20006342497_112013-F.jpg
14:46 GuShH_Lap they often suck.
14:46 GuShH_Lap again, just a sprinter.
14:46 rue_house 'he was dead by the time we got the call'?
14:46 GuShH_Lap the thing is, they are smaller than the US ambulances, they can fit through tighter places
14:47 GuShH_Lap from what I've seen you guys drive around a fucking room instead of a vehicle.
14:47 GuShH_Lap anyway since the sprinter is used for so many applications around here, they have good resell value.
14:49 GuShH_Lap what the hell http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/escarabajo-vw-1958-style-car-213-MLA4668499797_072013-F.jpg
14:50 rue_house its a spoiler duh
14:50 GuShH_Lap that spoiler and bumper are way off, what kind of tacky asshole built that?
14:50 rue_house it also doubles as a disability cart holder
14:50 GuShH_Lap I like the paint job.
14:50 GuShH_Lap Hahah
14:50 GuShH_Lap you could dine on that thing
14:50 GuShH_Lap or change up to 4 babies at a time.
14:51 GuShH_Lap I've seen worse though
14:51 rue_house to a degree, I did that with the house window ledges
14:51 rue_house nothing like a good, usable 6" window ledge
14:52 rue_house (tho the walls in this place are 3", so you have to take in in context)
14:52 GuShH_Lap http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/ford-1938-5188-MLA4193437938_042013-F.jpg
14:52 GuShH_Lap I don't know how I feel about restorations with new colours
14:52 GuShH_Lap they use pearl paints and whatnot
14:52 rue_house you buying some toys with your spending-cash?
14:52 GuShH_Lap nope, just looking sir.
14:52 GuShH_Lap that's too expensive for this guy
14:53 GuShH_Lap let's see 1941 or 38 Ford.... around 32k usd
14:53 GuShH_Lap v8 engine 87HP
14:54 GuShH_Lap http://mla-s2-p.mlstatic.com/jeep-willy-m38-a1-motor-hurricane-22-4353-MLA4908268145_082013-F.jpg
14:55 GuShH_Lap that's a nice restoration
14:55 GuShH_Lap we have a "willys club" around here
14:55 GuShH_Lap lots of old folks showing around their willies <grin>
14:55 GuShH_Lap 1960 2.2L
14:56 rue_house man, I can think of all kindsa things to do with this knock code
14:56 GuShH_Lap if I could I would get a 40s one
14:56 GuShH_Lap rue_house: lock your fridge with it
14:56 rue_house not locks, switches
14:56 GuShH_Lap you.no.fun.
14:57 rue_house I THINK I can find a way to morph it into voice recg too,
14:57 rue_house ON AN AVR!
14:57 GuShH_Lap wtf
14:57 rue_house }:]
14:57 rue_house fixed vocab
14:57 GuShH_Lap http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/jeep-willys-con-un-ford-v8-fase-ii-inyeccion-8233-MLA20001882633_112013-F.jpg
14:57 GuShH_Lap now that's just WRONG.
14:57 GuShH_Lap dig the tyres, but man these guys are tacky as hell.
14:58 GuShH_Lap Adding insult to injury, it's fitted with two CNG tanks http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/jeep-willys-con-un-ford-v8-fase-ii-inyeccion-8238-MLA20001882830_112013-F.jpg
14:59 GuShH_Lap that's something the rue would drive right?
15:01 rue_house NOPE HAS TO BE ELECTRIC... OH LOOKSA ME CAPS IS STILL ON...
15:01 GuShH_Lap no fun in electric willies
15:01 ShH_Lap chuc
15:01 rue_house they are better, they give you a better buzz
15:02 GuShH_Lap no, the fumes off the slightly venting engine heads give you a better buzz
15:02 rue_house damnit, I have to fix the exhaust line on my truck too
15:02 rue_house stupid snow
15:02 GuShH_Lap :(
15:02 GuShH_Lap line or liner?
15:02 rue_house oh well, I'll go make a snowman
15:02 GuShH_Lap Ok you'll need 2 carrots for that.
15:03 GuShH_Lap otherwise it's a snowwoman
15:03 rue_house someone did a bad repair and the pipe misses the header by 1/4"
15:03 GuShH_Lap sigh
15:03 GuShH_Lap but you got it cheap?
15:03 rue_house yea, I'm working on it
15:03 GuShH_Lap no complaints then!
15:03 rue_house two really rusty calmps on that one
15:04 rue_house heh, with the snow, if I so much as move the truck it'll slide down onto the road
15:04 GuShH_Lap there's a 40-50s ford (I assume) truck rusting away at a street corner around 10 blocks from where I live, been there for over 2 years...
15:04 GuShH_Lap I wonder who owns it and how much they want for it
15:04 rue_house knowing how to fix things is like having a 20% off ticket
15:04 rue_house :)
15:04 GuShH_Lap put some chains on it?
15:05 GuShH_Lap I still got the chain set for the pathfinder we had
15:05 rue_house I'v never actaully put them on..
15:05 GuShH_Lap and some wanky "liquid chain" I never even used
15:06 GuShH_Lap we used it a couple times, they were very hard to put on
15:06 GuShH_Lap the actual chains that is
15:06 GuShH_Lap I should sell all that stuff even it's just for a few bucks
15:06 GuShH_Lap taking up space for no good reason
15:07 GuShH_Lap heck I think I've still got some new air filters and other stuff for it
15:07 GuShH_Lap the big round ones.
15:08 Tom_itx rue_house are you snowed in?
15:08 Tom_itx no work today?
15:10 rue_house I could probably get out if I tried
15:10 GuShH_Lap start sprinkling salt from the window
15:10 GuShH_Lap the walkway is your dish
15:10 rue_house the boss says that 1 accident costs more than a lot of jobs, so if there is any change of slip (yourself or them) stay home
15:11 rue_house I suspect another 5" tonight
15:12 rue_house it would be a good time to have more groceries
15:12 rue_house whatever
15:12 rue_house knockSensorValue = analogRead(knockSensor);
15:12 rue_house if (knockSensorValue >= THRESHOLD){
15:12 rue_house stuff like this bothers me, its the ONLY place that variable is used
15:18 GuShH_Lap rue_house: but it makes it easier to update the code and use it somewhere else, plus a smart compiler will get rid of it
15:19 rue_house I can stick infinite amounts of junk in code if I want to
15:21 GuShH_Lap yes you can
15:22 GuShH_Lap rue_house: no need to "optimize" those two lines though
15:22 rue_house after recording the knocks, and using a variable to run the index of them, he re-counts the entries in the array to figure out how many knocks there are in it
15:22 rue_house ARG
15:22 GuShH_Lap don't read or use other's code then :p
15:22 GuShH_Lap you'll hardly agree with it
15:22 rue_house I'm rewriting it
15:22 rue_house it looks like its something of a hack, and thats cool, cause it does work
15:23 rue_house and if I squint hard, I can see how it works
15:23 GuShH_Lap haha
15:29 Skwint squint? ah, yeah, that sort of squint
15:32 rue_house really, I mean, the knock level detection could be done in external circuitry and be a digital input on the avr
15:34 rue_house I wore out the detents on my mouse scroll wheel, it always scrolls as a paste
15:37 rue_house the acceleration built into new mice drives me crazy (the ones I'v tried anyhow)
15:39 rue_house GuShH_Lap, you have to look at the combinations like this: I wanted to generate all black and white combinations of a 5x7 pixel image, I wrote the program, and quickly realized that a) my harddrive was filling up, b) at 1 second per image, no sleep or bathroom breaks, it would take 3000 years to look at all the images
15:40 rue_house but I KNOW there are a LOT of cool fonts in there
15:40 rue_house (all of the 5x7 fonts)
15:41 rue_house linux didn't much like 1200000 files in one directory
15:41 rue_house (which is where I stopped the program)
16:59 GuShH_Lap rue_house: just bought some tools from a place called "ruere house" ... are they distant relatives from the rue? heh
16:59 GuShH_Lap damn mosquitos! I need to build a tesla coil with a co2 generator and an industrial vacuum
16:59 GuShH_Lap that's how bad it is this summer
17:09 Tom_itx rue_house, you got your snowblower bot all tuned up?
17:12 MrCurious could always make iglu's and expand your living space.....
17:14 rue_house no
17:19 m_itx swaps GuShH_Lap for some of his su
17:19 Tom_itx it was 60F yesterday now it's 18F
17:42 GuShH_Lap Tom_itx: I like winter more than summer
17:43 ShH_Lap just put ~80 rounds through some infidel cans and now wonders what else to do on a fr
17:43 MrCurious i miss having winter... well, not really
22:52 rue_shop2 as a basic knock sensor, its strange, it almost seem to come on before you make contact with the table