#robotics Logs

Sep 23 2013

00:00 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/p1050582.jpg <-- lots more stupid litte clamps
00:00 dumbass-afk what if you replace one leg with the robot arm, then could buddy2 help you build himself?
00:00 rue_house I'm not too into the coding for that
00:01 rue_house actaully, for the big arm, the new motor drivers I'm working on will allow proper servo action, the motors are on relays right now
00:01 rue_house when that arms stopps suddenly it actaully torques the table quite a bit
00:02 rue_house 100% cantalever'd and all
00:02 dumbass-afk clamping things,, vinyl sheet cut 2cm wide and 4cm long?
00:02 rue_house where?
00:02 rue_house oh the bucket, no their aluinum
00:02 dumbass-afk http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/p1050582.jpg
00:02 rue_house its alu flashing
00:02 dumbass-afk ah, those are metal, to short out things
00:02 rue_house :) to improve grounding
00:03 rue_house +V busses need to be ground out so often...
00:03 rue_house there is probably 2 days of reconnecting wires right now
00:04 dumbass-afk ah
00:05 rue_house lets see.. 3, 6, 9, 15, 18, 21, .. 126 jumpers
00:07 rue_house oh, plus 4*6
00:08 mbass-afk hands rue 550 solar sells to solder, insulate, and carefully p
00:09 rue_house speaking of writing software to make robots do things...
00:11 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/buddyCorrectedBig.png
00:11 rue_house looks so clean when its just a computer model
00:11 Jak_o_Shadows haha, yeah.
00:11 dumbass-afk yeas, especially when you checked the background it stands on
00:16 rue_house I suppose the next big hurtle is the power inverter/ battery balancer
00:17 dumbass-afk talking to furry about that now, and he is making fun of me too
00:17 rue_house +24V to 6x4V and -24V
00:17 rue_house you found him? good show
00:18 dumbass-afk he agrees with me about fiing new better ways to build panels than how everyone, and Rif, did/do
00:21 rue_house on buddy, I wonder if I should make the computer be able to shut down the main power converter... no its too integrated
00:21 dumbass-afk small avr on a rechargeable laptop battery to tell it all to goto sleep?
00:22 rue_house 14 windings on the transformer
00:23 dumbass-afk i put that many on a nukebox transformer, yeas
00:23 rue_house its a set of flyback cores, ungapped
00:23 rue_house run pushpull
00:23 rue_house ganged cores
00:24 rue_house 24V*18A
00:24 rue_house call it 450W
00:24 rue_house 48 cell phone batteries
00:25 dumbass-afk which wasn't the problem tho
00:25 rue_house 24Wh of power
00:25 dumbass-afk <rue_house> on buddy, I wonder if I should make the computer be able to shut down the main power converter... no its too integrated
00:25 rue_house yea, there is no off switch yet :)
00:25 rue_house the motor controllers default initialize off
00:26 rue_house the overload boards seem to initialize to a random state, iirc
00:26 rue_house (ok/overload)
00:26 rue_house I dont think I tried power cycling them after the adjustments
00:27 rue_house I have to be carefull, the power core is also the cell balancer
00:27 dumbass-afk separate powerup avr, send out a whatever command constantly until they have waken up and understand it?
00:28 rue_house the computer in the middle is the primary brain, its a intel sbc
00:28 rue_house 400Mhz iirc
00:29 mbass-afk
00:30 rue_house I wonder what the fuse rating should be on the cells
00:30 rue_house if I designed it for 18A
00:30 rue_house 2.25A ea
00:31 dumbass-afk i'd fuse each power run to anywhere separately, so if a wire is nicked, it doesn't need to pop a 20amp fuse to protect itself
00:31 rue_house the setup uses 8 parallel banks of 6 cells in series (8p6s)
00:32 rue_house their li-ion I have to be carefull
00:33 dumbass-afk geese, i'd fuse each battery and isolate with a diode too, so if one shorts the rest won't dump power into it
00:33 rue_house there is a balancer, that forces each cell to be at 4/24ths of the pack voltage
00:34 rue_house via transformer winding
00:35 dumbass-afk umm you said they are in parralel, they'll all be at one voltage
00:35 rue_house the setup uses 8 parallel banks of 6 cells in series (8p6s)
00:35 rue_house total of 48 cells...
00:36 rue_house I cant put diodes in it or it'll mess with the balancer
00:36 rue_house as the balancer works by suplimenting power into weak series segments
00:36 dumbass-afk make 6 strings, 6 isolation diodes, charge each string separately
00:37 rue_house the balancer controls charging too, less current and charge cutoff
00:37 rue_house you apply 24V and it distributes it
00:38 rue_house I can unplug packs and charge cells individually
00:38 dumbass-afk that will be a pain
00:39 dumbass-afk if the whole battery pack goes up in smoke because one cell shorted, umm,, well, the smoke won't get here
00:39 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/buddy_III/p1030861.jpg
00:39 rue_house thats what that is
00:39 rue_house that is a 1 cell charger with a finished detect and 4017 driving relays
00:40 rue_house every time a cell finishes it starts charging the next cell, and it cycles
00:41 rue_house you can see a pack leaning up against the robot at the top left
00:42 rue_house I think the webserver my site is on isn't happy
00:42 mbass-afk has a soldering iron holder like that, mounted nto a 5/8 slab of steel 2x as
00:42 rue_house sweet
00:43 rue_house I love it when you can put something down and know its not gonna go anywhere
00:44 dumbass-afk i got so tired of one monitor falling over, i bolted the thing to the back of a bookcase the desk was up against
00:45 dumbass-afk no problems with the otehr monitors
00:45 rue_house some of the crts were stupid
00:47 dumbass-afk this was lcd, and badly balance on the stand
00:47 rue_house gnight
00:47 rue_house !
00:47 dumbass-afk ok, gnites
00:53 rue_bed after 2 years, I think the christmas lights in my room are burning out
01:05 hackkitten wow :o
01:06 dumbass-afk yeas, 3 months before they are to be on, and rue has burned them out in advance,, at least the time machine does work
01:07 hackkitten heh :D
01:08 dumbass-afk my house topping out was to be with cobalt blue xmas string around the roof deck, but it's not ever gonna happen
01:09 dumbass-afk either never buy a living place, or never allow neighbors
01:09 dumbass-afk gnites
01:10 hackkitten night :)
01:10 hackkitten neighbours suck~
01:10 ckkitten nods sa
08:57 rue_house these paypal 'your account needs service" scam emails are looking too good, I should make sure nobody at work falls for them
09:09 GargantuaSauce http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/2013-tas-editors-choice-awards-digital-interconnects/
09:12 rue_house hahahahahaha
09:12 rue_house hahahahaha
09:12 rue_house people are gonna buy that too
09:16 rue_house the last markup must be like 400%
09:18 GargantuaSauce 400? more like 4000
09:18 rue_house sadly, probably not
09:19 rue_house the other markup would be all the people in the sale chain
09:20 rue_house I wonder what the noise levels on a typical usb cable are
09:20 rue_house I bet there is more from the power than anything else
09:21 rue_house and I suspect they dont shield signal from power in those cables, probably just 4 conductor like everyone else
09:22 rue_house kat, is an ebay 'day' 12 hours or 24?
09:22 rue_house cause something dosn't add up here
09:22 theBear "Available terminated with RCA or BNC, Eagle Eye offers excellent construction quality and terrific sound. Even when used to carry nothing but the clock signal in the dCS Vivaldi, it improves image focus, increases coherence, and produces a smoother and more organic presentation."
09:22 theBear wow man !!
09:23 rue_house usb cables with rca/bnc termination?
09:23 theBear next one down on that page
09:23 rue_house ah
09:24 rue_house I think these editors are making paid choices
09:25 theBear either way, it's hard to believe just how crazy this shit has gotten, 10 or 20 years in we've got "respected" people and audiofools all convinced that digital is more than just working or not working
09:26 rue_house http://www.audioquest.com/beware-of-counterfeits/
09:26 rue_house hahahaha
09:27 zap0 I paid a consultant to burn-in my internet cables.
09:28 rue_house that sounds like a good paying job
09:28 rue_house tho seriously, its nice to have a switch with error counters
09:29 rue_house know when you do have a bad cable
09:30 rue_house I'v seen the most incredibly strange errors when windows and a solid-core-crimped-end cable were mixed
09:31 zap0 why are headphones analog over the last metre? that is where all the noise gets in.
09:32 rue_house that must be it! thats why my $2 ebay usb to audio sounds like crap!
09:33 zap0 usb?! there's your problem right there. you need at least thunderbolt if you want increased coherence.
09:34 rue_house I'm glad someone funnels money into the system
09:34 GuShH is it audioph00l time?
09:35 rue_house you only play 1000000sps 48 bit, losses format audio files?
09:35 GuShH zap0: but did he release all the oxygen from the cables first?
09:35 rue_house oh! are you not argon casing your cables?
09:35 GuShH rue_house: yes, converted from a casette tape, recorded from the radio, from a basement.
09:35 rgantuaSauce admits that most of his music collection is in
09:36 GuShH GargantuaSauce: you can't tell the difference you stupid cow!
09:36 GuShH it's all in your head
09:36 rue_house you cant use co2 you know, its magnetic
09:36 theBear rue_house, i just borrow a plumbers bottle and run a shield when i want REALLY good audio
09:36 theBear most of the time i run unshielded
09:36 theBear i can take a little oxidized slag on my audio
09:37 rue_house I'm out to work, later!
09:37 zap0 i use 2 digital cables.. one for each channel, so the audio is balanced. and arrives at the same time.
09:37 GuShH damn cat
09:37 GuShH closed the lid on the laptop
09:37 theBear hehe
09:37 GuShH not funny, they're gaining power!
09:37 GargantuaSauce i know the difference between lossless and mp3@320 is pretty much inaudible, but theres no reason not to have it lossless if it's available
09:37 GuShH zap0: you could get injured pretty bad for saying such things in front of theBear
09:38 GuShH it's not "pretty much" it isn't audible
09:38 GuShH your ears are shit compared to other animal's
09:38 theBear lucky for him and most of the internet, they ain't anywhere near in front of me
09:38 zap0 my digital cables are oxygen free, they've been certified.
09:38 GuShH they rank very low
09:39 GuShH zap0: and so will your lungs if we ever meet!
09:39 GuShH I cannot deal with audiph00ls in real life.
09:39 theBear how do you certify something that absorbs oxygen doesn't contain oxygen ?
09:39 theBear not like you can observe or sample it
09:40 zap0 you weigh them.
09:40 theBear pfft
09:40 GuShH theBear: he better be trollin'
09:40 GuShH this is one of those things that are worse than trolling.
09:40 GuShH complete and utter ignorance in life
09:41 GuShH while he's playing with his "oxygen free" cables his mom is giving birth to his brother in the toilet.
09:41 theBear i dunno, they're both pretty bad, but at least most of the ignorant people don't know they're doing it
09:41 zap0 just cause you haven't heard the difference doesn't make it wrong.
09:41 theBear lol
09:41 theBear yeah, but not being able to measure the difference makes it wrong
09:41 GuShH zap0: you'd be in an ambulance right now assuming someone cared to call one in the first place!
09:42 zap0 what makes you think there are instruments more accurate then human hearing?
09:42 GuShH then they'll pump your stomach contents out to retrieve most of your teeth, then you'll learn how to walk again if you're lucky. Was it worth it, were you able to hear the difference between my left fist and my right fist?
09:43 zap0 if there were, we would have a way to automatically test if music was good.
09:43 GargantuaSauce lol
09:43 GargantuaSauce objective taste
09:43 GargantuaSauce i like it
09:44 GuShH wait until you try a teleobjective, yum
09:44 theBear zap0, you better be fucking with us now ! that's literally the stupidest thing i ever heard
09:44 GargantuaSauce it's pretty obvious that he's joking
09:44 theBear it is ?
09:44 GuShH ignorance is bliss
09:44 zap0 i feel sorry for people that just hate cause they aren't able to enjoy the difference that some of us can.
09:44 GuShH that's what they think
09:45 GuShH you'd be deaf from all the fist-up-your-skull right now though
09:45 GuShH so, no more audioph00lery for you.
09:45 GuShH actually that's the one and only solution for those jokers, a couple cigarettes up into their ears.
09:46 GuShH or nails, whatever's handy
09:46 theBear screw that, they don't deserve cigarettes
09:46 GuShH not sure you can cause permanent damage with a lit one
09:46 theBear oh i can if i need to, but i'd rather just smoke it
09:47 GuShH hearing wise
09:47 theBear i could do it with one of my handmade racehorsies
09:47 GuShH zap0 is out to smoke some oregano it seems
09:47 theBear is that a fancy way of saying get his ass kicked ?
09:47 GuShH no, but that weed he buys is mostly oregano I would imagine
09:48 GuShH with some skank piss
09:48 theBear mmmm, probly
09:48 GuShH but he pays top dollar
09:48 GuShH and claims you wouldn't be able to tell the difference from the "cheap stuff"
09:48 theBear lol skank piss
09:48 theBear i like i
09:48 theBear t
09:49 GuShH theBear: I'm so pissed off at a product, and the dipshit making it that I'm rolling out my own, just to fuck him.
09:49 GuShH it's not even something I would use
09:49 theBear fairynuff
09:49 GuShH but that's how annoyed I can get.
09:49 GuShH without going into violence.
09:49 theBear yeah, i done that one
09:49 GuShH I think the easy way would be to kick his arse and enjoy a beer.
09:49 theBear probly, i done that one too :)
09:50 GuShH is there anything you haven't done
09:50 GuShH paris hilton?
09:50 theBear tho i gotta admit i haven't used violence professionally for a LONG time, tho i DID threaten very convincingly to kill a school music teacher a couple years back
09:50 theBear heh, or minaj <grin>
09:50 theBear there ain't much i haven't done... i like doing things, if i think or hear about something i ain't done or seen, i just kinda need to do or see it
09:51 GuShH Hey I too have an issue with a school teacher, or I had.. now It's back, thanks for reminding me
09:51 theBear well, except the stuff people travel for
09:51 GuShH Bitch slammed me against a hardwood seat once, I was probably 5
09:51 GuShH That kind of crap gets burnt into your brain you don't forget.
09:51 GuShH I remember when, how and her name!
09:52 GuShH theBear: here's one you haven't done... drink whiskey from a hobo's arse.
09:52 theBear erm, can a hobo be a woman ?
09:53 GuShH yes but in this case it's a man or what's left of a man.
09:53 theBear also i assume hobo just means someone with no fixed abode, sleeps 'outside' and has no employment
09:53 theBear oh, in that case, not that i can recall
09:53 theBear but close :)
09:53 GuShH another one.... smoke a joint of rolled up asbestos in front of larry king.
09:53 GuShH for no good reason, other than you haven't done it.
09:54 theBear i would like to meet larry king sometime
09:54 GuShH I wonder if he leaves a trail of dust whenever he walks
09:54 theBear and it's true, i haven't smoked asbestos, actually, pretty sure it's impossible
09:54 GuShH haha
09:54 GuShH it should smoke and burn at a certain temperature
09:54 GargantuaSauce just roll it with magnesium foil
09:54 GuShH oh that's a good idea
09:55 GuShH and sprinkle some powdered chinese fetus inside
09:55 GuShH I wonder if that shit will make your hair grow wild.
09:55 GuShH ! let's sell it
09:55 GuShH They've been talking about the chinese for a while on the news around here...
09:55 GuShH Turns out you can buy one pretty cheap
09:55 GuShH who knew?
09:55 theBear oooh, powdered foetus, i never had that... hmmmm i wonder
09:56 theBear i knew, you want one ?
09:56 theBear i can't do internation delivery tho
09:56 GuShH about 2500 usd will get you a chink
09:56 GuShH probably less, depends
09:56 GuShH it's sad...
09:56 GuShH some of them are tricked by their own family
09:57 GuShH which is what happens to little girls in india and such, but you know what's the end goal in that case...
09:57 GuShH will slavery ever die off?
09:58 theBear nah, capitalism is based on it for a start... just cos they don't call it slavery doesn't make it not slavery
09:58 GuShH heh
09:58 GuShH china seems to be one huge concentration camp
09:59 GuShH ok back to drillin' and tappin'
09:59 GuShH ...steel
09:59 GuShH oh that's a good tshirt
09:59 theBear sure
09:59 theBear heh
09:59 GuShH you tried that site yet?
09:59 theBear wot site
09:59 GuShH the post one
10:00 GuShH I don't remember the name, why should I!
10:00 theBear ok, and probly not, i aint much into websites
10:00 theBear oh that one
10:02 theBear yeah, had a look around, it's been a long few days... thinkin about it, seems to make any kinda usable amount of money you gonna be making a few hundred forum posts a week, they got a very limited 'client base' which isn't necesarily good or bad, but mostly, i would be perpetuating what i feel to be the downfall of the internet in general, and for a very low return... i'm just not sure how i feel about
10:02 theBear taht
10:08 GuShH theBear: well I figured you could post some crap while watching cartoons or something, it's out there
10:08 ShH has no affiliation and isn't even registered t
10:09 GuShH ok, need to figure out the costs of materials and see if I can afford to make a run of 5 to begin with
10:09 GuShH most expensive part of this product is the VFD
10:09 ShH is both excited and terri
10:09 GuShH but without risks there wouldn't be anything.
10:10 theBear 100 posts for 7 bucks....
10:22 GargantuaSauce http://www.quantonics.com/Level_6_QTO_MoQ_II_Reality_Loop.html
14:41 dumbass-afk http://inhabitat.com/the-farmbot-is-an-open-source-hackable-farming-machine-designed-to-bring-technology-to-agriculture/
14:42 dumbass-afk decades ago someone did a farm tractor that had no engine, it was pulled back and forth thru the fields with a cable, from stationary frame (and engine) at the edge of the field
14:43 dumbass-afk you could position the "tractor" precisely, and it carried no fuel, and weighed literally tons less than a normal tractor
14:44 dumbass-afk it could not get bogged down in wet fields, and couldn't spin tires dragging a too-big plow in dry fields
14:44 dumbass-afk obviously with all those advantages, it never caught on
14:45 dumbass-afk if that overhead bridge crane idea didn't outright suck, you'd see them already deployed on radial sprinkler arms
14:47 Roooooooo Did dyndns delete my flipping records again?
14:47 mbass-afk looks for the flipping rec
14:48 Roooooooo Will it resolve?
14:50 dumbass-afk no, and cannot tracert past 173.182.212.166
14:50 Roooooooo Grrrrrrrrrr. Thanks
14:51 dumbass-afk Roooooooo!d179e187@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.121.225.135
14:51 Roooooooo iPhone :)
14:51 dumbass-afk oh
14:51 ooooooo expl
14:52 dumbass-afk call home, route online thru your puter-based call router there
17:44 dumbass-afk i have only 8 gigs left on this disk, i hope i have enough room for a dir /S /B >> dir.txt
18:02 GuShH bah my air compressor had an oil leak and I just found out
18:03 GuShH it's been leaking for probably 3 months straight, very little.. but enough to ruin the decals and stain the floor a bit
18:03 GuShH it wasn't enough to show a massive decrease of level on the eyeglass, obviously. sigh...
18:04 dumbass-afk never trust eyeglasses anyhow, once the oil gets frothy it clocks every port, pipe, elbow, and tube
18:04 GuShH removed the oil, wire brushed the bolt, added an o-ring (I have no compression washers of that size, plus the bolt hole is countersunk as if it required an o-ring but it never had one
18:04 GuShH the amount removed was pretty close to the amount added
18:05 dumbass-afk i knew of a 20 gal tank that never drained water whent he bottom drain was opened, because it was clogged with frothed oil
18:05 GuShH dumbass-afk: originally they had sealed the plug with a white thread sealer, I don't ilke that stuff
18:05 GuShH heh
18:05 GuShH I do get a bit of oil in the water, when I drain... but I figure that's normal
18:06 GuShH I could have a bit too much oil in there though
18:06 GuShH As it turns out China doesn't care about amounts or sizes, the manual doesn't state how much oil goes in it
18:06 dumbass-afk the people checking it wrote "nothing came out", the people interpretng that wrote "no oil or water in tank", what should have been written is "nothing came out, not even the high pressure air, valve is clogged"
18:07 GuShH a friend used to work at a bowling place, their main compressor tank was never drained
18:07 dumbass-afk i was in there one day, the 3hp compressor motor was cycling several times a minute, the tank was full of oil and water
18:07 GuShH he filled up a bucket with what looked like chocolate.
18:07 ShH s
18:08 GuShH I regularly drain mine (just until no continous flow of water is felt) and a complete drain with the valve removed once a year or so.
18:08 dumbass-afk gut complained he had no hot water, even tho the tank had 9 208v 5kw heaters in it, the bottom 7 of them were buried in the 2ft of crud built up in the bottom of the tank that did n't flush out the drain valve
18:09 dumbass-afk gut-guy
18:09 GuShH guy with a gut
18:09 GuShH Hmm that reminds me I need to flush my small water heater
18:09 GuShH and probably the big one too...
18:09 GuShH so much crap one has to do just to keep things working...
18:09 dumbass-afk i couldn't even pull the elements out of the tank, but luckily they had a 4x6 bolt-on opening in the side
18:10 GuShH I should really get that water trap before I paint this stand
18:11 dumbass-afk nother guy complained that when he switched on the pool filter, it sucked the water level below the skimmers so he had to add water, but then when he shut the filter off the pool overflowed,,, someone had solf him THREE 6xft dia 8ft tall sand filter tanks , flipping the filter pump on had to fill each tank
18:11 GuShH dumbass-afk: would you recommend a small inline water trap at the paint gun?
18:12 dumbass-afk yeas
18:12 dumbass-afk dryer cart too
18:12 GuShH but I can only source those plastic ones
18:12 GuShH err I can't afford a dryer
18:12 GuShH I would get one if I were to paint a car panel
18:13 dumbass-afk i mean a lil inline dryer, not a floor model
18:13 GuShH ...I would also build a makeshift booth
18:13 GuShH dumbass-afk: yep even those cost a lot around here, it's not common stuff
18:13 dumbass-afk o
18:14 GuShH a floor model unit costs from 1k usd up to infinity
18:14 GuShH 1.3k actually, just checked
18:14 GuShH no stock on small inlines
18:15 GuShH I hear you can dry the catridges
18:15 GuShH dumbass-afk: what would it take to make a floor unit at home?
18:15 GuShH I've never seen one
18:16 dumbass-afk either a 20 gal tub of dessicant, or a dehumidifier
18:16 GuShH no, but to make one from scratch.
18:16 dumbass-afk i didn't understand the question
18:16 GuShH how about a small tube wrapped around a heating element, with holes, would that even make a difference?
18:17 GuShH How would you make one from scratch
18:17 dumbass-afk either a 20 gal tub of dessicant, or a dehumidifier
18:17 ShH will rephrase until it's unders
18:17 ShH resets dumbass
18:17 dumbass-afk ok,, trying again,, how do you make WHAT from scratch?
18:18 GuShH an air dryer for the air compressor
18:18 dumbass-afk either a 20 gal tub of dessicant, or a dehumidifier
18:18 GuShH that's not "from scratch"
18:18 GuShH that's just buying a commercial product and connecting it
18:18 dumbass-afk steel tank, air in , thru dessicant, out the other end
18:19 GuShH dessicant won't last forever
18:19 dumbass-afk or, steel box around dehumidifier coils, air in, across coils, air out
18:19 dumbass-afk true, gotta dry the dessicant
18:19 GuShH so why not use a massive heated coil
18:19 dumbass-afk what are you heating?
18:19 GuShH then bring the temperature down as to not overheat the compressor
18:19 GuShH air.
18:19 dumbass-afk why?
18:19 ShH s
18:20 dumbass-afk you want cool air intot he dessicant
18:20 GuShH I don't want dessicant.
18:20 dumbass-afk if you heat it as it is absorbing the water fromt he compressed air, it won't absorb the water
18:21 dumbass-afk what do you want?!
18:21 ShH walks
18:22 dumbass-afk if i have a jar of air, it has exactly the same moisture if i heat it
18:22 dumbass-afk if i cool it, the water condenses out, then i drain the water off
18:22 dumbass-afk i dunno why you want to heat it
18:22 GuShH not if it's super heated
18:23 GuShH and who said it's a closed system
18:23 dumbass-afk superheat, above 213F, just makes steam,a nd will prolly dry your paint before it exits the gun nozzel
18:23 GuShH that would ruin your hoses among other parts.
18:23 dumbass-afk yeas
18:24 dumbass-afk so don't heat it
18:24 GuShH you can cool it back down
18:24 mbass-afk s
18:24 dumbass-afk you wanna heat it to make steam, then cool it back to plain humidity again?
18:24 GuShH the steam is released
18:25 dumbass-afk how? it's resembles the humidity exactly
18:25 GuShH this is how big commercial dryers work
18:25 GuShH it's not a dehumidifier from HF with a steel case on top
18:26 dumbass-afk they cool first, condensing the moisture out, then they use the airflow to help cool the compressor coils
18:26 dumbass-afk which is why i said "dehumidifier", because it's the same thing
18:26 GuShH and all cars are the same, as are airplanes and humans
18:26 GuShH it's all the same for you, it's all a constant
18:26 dumbass-afk really?
18:26 GuShH there are 100 ways of doing this
18:26 GuShH at least.
18:27 dumbass-afk please name the 100
18:27 GuShH please go to sleep
18:27 GuShH you might be thinking "air dryer for air compressor" I'm thinking air dryer in general, for instance the ones used to dry plastic medium
18:27 GuShH before injection
18:27 dumbass-afk 1) you absorb the moisture fromt he air or 2) you chill and condense it out ,, that's all there is
18:28 GuShH you don't need to absorb it or condense it
18:28 dumbass-afk url please
18:28 GuShH for what?
18:28 dumbass-afk how you dry air without absorbents or chilling
18:30 GuShH do you seriously believe air that's been super heated and most of it's moisture released as steam will magically cool down to the same humidity level?
18:31 dumbass-afk you did not say how the steam was removed
18:31 GuShH do you also believe the humidity level on a boiler room to be the same as outside, too?
18:31 dumbass-afk i have operated boilers, which no leaks, the air int he room is same as air outside
18:32 ShH eyer
18:32 dumbass-afk WITH NO LEAKS
18:32 GuShH you're thinking air heating
18:32 dumbass-afk the steam shold stay in the boiler and in the pipes
18:33 GuShH who's talking about leaky steam boilers at all
18:33 dumbass-afk url for removing the steam from your compressed air, NOT using absorbants of chilling, please sir
18:33 GuShH after you send me the URLs for the medication you have not taken today
18:34 dumbass-afk you cannot prove your concept, so you attack me personally
18:34 GuShH no, you are particularly trolly.
18:35 dumbass-afk you cannot prove your concept, so you attack me personally, again
18:35 GuShH you are trolly.
18:35 dumbass-afk you asked me for how to do it, i told you, you say there is a 3rd way, show me
18:37 dumbass-afk bbl
19:28 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org
19:28 rue_house yay!
19:28 rue_house damn dyndns.org
19:30 rue_house my plan is to take a nap, build a spaceship, go check out the moon, come home, make supper and get a good nights sleep for work tommorow
19:30 rue_house thats plan A
20:27 robotustra hm... 4 days to travel to the moon
20:28 robotustra I don't think that modern engines give you much acceleration to go to and fro in a couple of hours
20:29 GargantuaSauce sure they could
20:29 robotustra unless you'll be kidnapped by aliens and they will be so kind to make you a tour around the moon
20:29 GargantuaSauce you'd just need to launch a craft whose scale makes the saturn V look like a kid's toy
20:37 dumbass-afk [19:14] <rue_house> my plan is to take a nap, build a spaceship, go check out the moon <<== he did not say he'd use *that* space ship to go check out the moon
20:51 dumbass-afk robotustra , there is an engine from the 1970's(?) that could get rue to the moon under a day, but it might make the earth unliveable to use it
20:53 dumbass-afk if you think the Saturn5 or space shuttle was loud, you'll wanna be 50 miles from this engine
20:53 orlok Project Orion?
20:53 dumbass-afk yeas
20:54 dumbass-afk the ultimate Star Trek "impulse engine"
20:56 dumbass-afk it's why the star ship nacelles are so long
21:03 dumbass-afk hmm,, google has a datacenter in Quilicura, Chile
21:06 robotustra ok, let's talk about that, who knows the distance to the moon without google?
21:07 robotustra nobody?
21:08 GargantuaSauce i know it's one and a quarter light seconds
21:08 dumbass-afk is it different if measured with google?
21:09 robotustra tell me then
21:09 mbass-afk didn't memorise that
21:09 robotustra yep, it means that this topic is closed for dumb asses
21:10 mbass-afk is ple
21:10 robotustra what is the 2nd space speed?
21:10 dumbass-afk what is short for MA347612890GT4078579132R74 malumalu Z17924398TZR two thousand modular guidance type 452963752391MQTO gold launch system GLS installed self deciding type double 0 three seven 293165734285YGNKTIO1200YMCA4126PPPKG53 Normad ?
21:11 dumbass-afk you googling it, aren't you?
21:11 robotustra dumbass, one word
21:11 GargantuaSauce http://www.quantonics.com/Level_6_QTO_MoQ_II_Reality_Loop.html
21:11 robotustra no, I know these values since University
21:12 robotustra because I'm a prof of physics btw
21:12 mbass-afk looks impressed .... what is a Goldstar OS-502
21:12 robotustra and when I hear something like Saturn5 and other speculations I want to shit
21:13 dumbass-afk you have wierd desires
21:13 dumbass-afk Saturn5
21:13 GuShH haaa
21:14 robotustra dumbass - I'm not astrophysicist but it looks like the name of the star
21:14 robotustra :)
21:14 dumbass-afk the goldstar? no, it's an oscope, and even my bot knows that
21:15 robotustra so, you have to learn from your bot first :)
21:15 dumbass-afk the MA347612890GT4078579132R74 malumalu Z17924398TZR two thousand modular guidance type 452963752391MQTO gold launch system GLS installed self deciding type double 0 three seven 293165734285YGNKTIO1200YMCA4126PPPKG53 Normad is an Ai also
21:15 robotustra before talk to me
21:15 dumbass-afk Tiggr has terabytes of data, i think anyone can learn from her
21:16 dumbass-afk last count: 10 Tb of active drivespace, 3 boxes of unplugged drives
21:17 robotustra 10 Tb and still stupid.. pity
21:17 robotustra google looks like clever even without AI
21:17 dumbass-afk who is stupid?
21:17 robotustra your bot
21:18 dumbass-afk you don't know my bot, how can you judge?
21:18 robotustra I don't need to know it
21:18 robotustra 10 TB is nothing
21:18 robotustra today
21:19 robotustra look at this https://www.google.ca/search?q=google+data+center&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_vJAUvi0LYTA4AOkyICABg&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=631&dpr=1
21:19 dumbass-afk it's what i can power up and run, with 650Mbs bandwidth, which is plenty
21:19 dumbass-afk you need google, i don't
21:20 robotustra I don't to compare our dicks
21:20 robotustra google has bigger, much bigger
21:20 dumbass-afk good, because i don't have one, you dick
21:21 robotustra how do you think then?
21:21 dumbass-afk better, apparently
21:21 robotustra women can't thing because they have hole on that place with which men think
21:21 robotustra evidently not
21:22 dumbass-afk you must be single
21:22 robotustra I have 3 holes at home
21:23 robotustra one of them is my wife
21:23 mbass-afk puts robotustra on the long ignore
21:23 robotustra already?
21:23 robotustra ok, you'll regret about it
21:23 Curious blinks sl
21:23 robotustra really I'm sorry
21:24 robotustra :)
21:24 MrCurious its normaly ME who gets this treatment
21:24 robotustra :)
21:24 MrCurious dumbass-afk: i have been teaching him english slang
21:24 MrCurious i may have errored
21:24 MrCurious in an explanation :)
21:24 robotustra did I use illegal English words?
21:25 MrCurious but i would encourage you to explain the subtlties of the word :)
21:25 robotustra forbidden?
21:25 dumbass-afk it dislikes women, no harm to never hear from it again
21:25 MrCurious unpolite a bit
21:25 robotustra hmm
21:25 MrCurious he is quite clever and makes things, your loss.
21:25 dumbass-afk i make things and am clever also
21:26 robotustra it's good
21:26 MrCurious you are, and sometimes you shed depression...
21:26 robotustra really
21:26 MrCurious we all have our weaknesses
21:26 dumbass-afk he claims to be married, but he speaks of women in disgustng terms
21:26 robotustra never saw a girl doing something useful
21:26 MrCurious clearly you have never learned the slang from another language
21:26 robotustra it's just a humor
21:26 dumbass-afk true
21:26 robotustra rude rude humor
21:27 MrCurious apparently its very easy to use non native words too easily where you would not use same words from first tongue
21:27 MrCurious as in hindi... chut
21:27 MrCurious i have no problem saying that, but its english alternative is not used
21:27 robotustra so, I didn't make threads today
21:27 MrCurious or was it chutia....
21:27 MrCurious there i did it twice
21:28 robotustra what is chutia?
21:28 mbass-afk s
21:28 MrCurious not gonna tell you
21:28 robotustra ok
21:28 dumbass-afk stupid holidays
21:28 robotustra what is mind - no metter
21:29 robotustra what is matter - never mind
21:29 MrCurious i LOVE the silly season
21:29 MrCurious put in your prozac orders early this year, i hear its in high demand!
21:30 robotustra I have to extract prozac from my bananas first
21:31 orlok robotustra: Prof. of physics where?
21:31 robotustra I used to be
21:31 robotustra 3 years ago
21:31 robotustra in Belarus
21:32 robotustra for 10 years
21:32 lok used to work with a lot of physic
21:32 orlok Belarus.. is that where mcAfee was hiding out?
21:33 robotustra :)
21:33 robotustra you are mixing something?
21:34 robotustra I used mcCaffee once
21:34 robotustra there
21:34 robotustra but after I wiped it
21:34 robotustra al antiviruses are bullshit
21:36 MrCurious if you dont go to russian porn sites, you dont need anti-virus
21:36 MrCurious well, or english banking sites
21:36 MrCurious well, or pretty much any site on internet
21:36 robotustra or you are not connected to internet, sure
21:36 robotustra 50% of internet is porn sites
21:37 robotustra so you have 50% of chances to ge electro honorea
21:37 robotustra on your hard disk
21:37 MrCurious wish there was a hard drive that was smart enough to let you lay down a filesystem, then hardware write protect it, and have a second filesystem to layer on top that you can purge periodically
21:37 robotustra it's called VM
21:38 GuShH MrCurious: go do something already
21:38 MrCurious i am... i am teaching robotustra english
21:38 MrCurious and apparently i am not very good at it
21:39 robotustra like this photo http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/google-datacenter-tech-09.jpg
21:39 robotustra I don't know why
21:40 robotustra people are boring because they do nothing
21:40 robotustra do something already
21:40 robotustra film a robo porn
21:40 robotustra and publish it
21:41 robotustra I watch robo porn at you tube every night
21:41 MrCurious time to install arduino IDE on windows
21:41 robotustra not so much new stuff there
21:41 MrCurious then see if windows can do git
21:41 robotustra it can
21:41 robotustra I use it on windows
21:41 robotustra from command line
21:41 MrCurious hmmm cmd line git or candy coated dumbed down gui git
21:42 GargantuaSauce tortoisegit is ok
21:42 robotustra don't use it in GUI
21:42 GargantuaSauce i also kinda liked atlassian sourcetree
21:42 robotustra use FAR Manager - it remember all your command lines
21:43 MrCurious nah, i type my psswords in clear text a lot
21:43 robotustra MrCurious I'll tell you console GIT is much faster
21:43 MrCurious i have tried git gui's and all suck
21:43 MrCurious cmd line is only way
21:43 robotustra yep
21:43 MrCurious other ways lead to tears
21:43 MrCurious now a gui diff util...
21:43 MrCurious or gui git diff is a nice thing
21:44 robotustra and for windows right console cmd shell is FAR Manager
21:44 MrCurious but most times i reach for web git page for diffs and history insead of gui tool
21:45 robotustra http://www.farmanager.com/download.php
21:45 robotustra winmerge then http://winmerge.org/
21:45 robotustra also is not bad
21:46 MrCurious so on the way home, i was thinking about an anti obamacare comercial... insinuating that you dont want the govt knowing your business.... but doesnt the Network Spying Agency (NSA) already know all that information? sso whats the harm?
21:46 MrCurious or was that the National Snooping Agency
21:47 MrCurious NSA: its 7:30PM do you know where the Brazilian president is?
21:48 robotustra who is obama?
21:48 MrCurious that slow blink thing, i am doing it again
21:48 robotustra but who cares about him?
21:49 robotustra in this channel?
21:49 MrCurious beats me. i was making a run at humor
21:50 robotustra have to get kids to sleep
21:50 robotustra hypnotyse
21:50 MrCurious i know better way
21:51 MrCurious show them Monsters and let them knowunder their bed is where they hide
21:51 MrCurious and if they get out of bed, the monsters will grab their ankles
21:51 MrCurious truth is monsters are a good new bad news thing
21:51 MrCurious good news is they are real, bad news is they bring them back
21:55 rue_house wow I just woke up
21:55 MrCurious git-bash .... i am already in love
21:56 MrCurious and what makes you confident you can assert you are in a wake state and not a simulated wake state from a dream state...
21:56 rue_house damn, I screwed my schedule, if I make a ship and go to the moon, I'll be an hour short on sleep for work tommorw
21:56 MrCurious stop robbing tomorrow to pay yesterday
21:57 rue_house AND, I cant get one of the cats to come in
21:57 rue_house arg.
21:57 MrCurious yes you can you are just unwilling to open teh tuna can
21:57 MrCurious where it can hear you
21:57 rue_house tuna can, your a genious
21:57 MrCurious and if you havent trained the tuna/soft food can sound, you are an amateur
21:58 MrCurious if they are primarily inside cats, pressing the door bell sometimes makes them run inside and hide
21:58 rue_house oh I got a heap of ebay stuff I need to do feedback on
21:58 MrCurious we had 2 that would roam out the open door, and we discovered the doorbel made them come inside quickly and calmly as if a school fire drill were happening
21:59 MrCurious have you tried a laser pointer to lure her inside?
21:59 MrCurious i am going to infer the cat issue is sorted to satisfaction and stop going on about it now :)
22:11 rue_house he came in!
22:12 MrCurious what technique?
22:18 robotustra tomorrow have to pick up my parsel
22:18 robotustra I think it's atmega32u4 boards
22:19 robotustra ardino-like
22:19 robotustra arduino
22:19 robotustra hope they have bootloader
22:20 MrCurious arduino worked with these boards on osx... windows sux
22:22 robotustra I don't like their c0like slang
22:22 robotustra c-like
22:22 MrCurious c++ like pretend language
22:22 MrCurious i dont mind as long as i dont have to spend too long there
22:23 robotustra new language created by hipsters means instability
22:24 robotustra hipsters are not allowed to invent new languages
22:24 robotustra they don't even know what is basis set
22:24 robotustra basis set of operations
22:25 robotustra why they didn't invented more poverful language than just imitation of c++
22:25 robotustra ?
22:26 robotustra it's because they are just not so sharp as Straustrup
22:28 rue_house kat, my reel of 6.8uF caps arrived! :)
22:29 robotustra smd?
22:29 rue_house $20, which I cant complain about
22:29 rue_house sure
22:29 robotustra mine are on the way
22:30 MrCurious rue_house: how did you get him back in?
22:30 rue_house I wanted 1uF and 10uF
22:30 rue_house I opened the door while holding the other one from going back out
22:30 MrCurious yup
22:30 MrCurious outside can be scary
22:30 MrCurious if they are inside cats
22:32 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/320907680906 <-- that was an oops, 2x as big as I wanted :)
22:36 MrCurious how about that BS. works perfect in linux, but windows 8 refuses to work ---> my SURPRISED face
22:36 rue_house what is it?
22:37 dumbass-afk ya know what bugs the farts out of me? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/320907680906 cannot possibly handle 20 amps on that skinny solder tang
22:37 MrCurious aarduino ide
22:37 MrCurious it could... if you pray enough
22:38 rue_house its a bit small, I'd say, holing it, its fuse current is higher than 20
22:38 dumbass-afk so it will merely glow and unsolder itself?
22:38 MrCurious only $1 to buy it, test it and know
22:38 rue_house I was gonna say, you would want to bend it over to increase contact area with the trace
22:38 MrCurious lets watch and see if canadians are cheap
22:38 dumbass-afk i have had TO-3 cans unsolder themselves, except for the "modified" TO-3 with the fat pins
22:39 dumbass-afk rue, a trace won't hold 20 amps either, try it
22:39 rue_house depends how thick
22:40 rue_house those lugs are .4" pitch, not .2
22:40 MrCurious could just be a picture that resemble it, but not to scale
22:41 rue_house I thought it was .2" when I bought it, serves me for obviously being blind as a bat
22:42 dumbass-afk skinny pins: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-12-Transistors-2N3055E-New-/321210419169
22:42 dumbass-afk fat pins : http://www.ebay.com/itm/4PCS-Hight-Power-Transistor-2N5684-BY-MOT-TO-3/180422282173
22:43 rue_house china uss small amps, their wire is accordingly sized
22:45 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/221227868836 <-- unlike the pic, the bottom of the screw lug on those is really thin, they will blow out if overtightened
22:46 mbass-afk growls at the bot,, she just wrote a file Gmina_Obrzycko.txt and i can't rea
22:47 dumbass-afk how about these ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/390651077913
22:48 rue_house if it weren't for the $50 shipping, I'd even say it was a good deal
22:49 dumbass-afk ouch
22:49 dumbass-afk wow, did everyone raise their s&h over the weekend??
22:49 rue_house not china
22:49 rue_house its still free
22:53 e_house looks at the 2 lug motor headers, and the 3 lug power header
22:53 rue_house I should get matching headers instead of whatever is cheap
22:53 mbass-afk sends rue a baggie of
22:57 dumbass-afk TIL Comarnic != Comarna
23:01 rue_shop2 oh, I bought a nibbler from the supply shop at work too, $32
23:01 MrCurious micro stepper motor that is the size of a #2 pencils eraser is apparently 200ma/5v per coil wishing it was 20ma@5v
23:01 dumbass-afk that blows a month of $1 per item!
23:01 rue_shop2 no no, shop tool
23:02 rue_shop2 a good one klien
23:02 dumbass-afk ah, they do make good tools
23:02 mbass-afk has none
23:03 rue_shop2 I cant wait to need my next rectangular hole
23:03 rue_shop2 :)
23:03 mbass-afk ponders 2.4 cents for a 2x25 edge conne
23:03 rue_shop2 damn clip-in switches
23:04 dumbass-afk you don't need a square hole, yanno, you simply stack them up and sammich them tween two pieces of metal
23:04 dumbass-afk |:|
23:04 dumbass-afk |:|
23:04 dumbass-afk there ya go, 4 , no square holes
23:05 mbass-afk would use them for installing led readouts
23:05 rue_shop2 oh yea!
23:05 rue_shop2 thats a good one
23:06 rue_shop2 you should work to sell some of those things you got for a ripping deal for a regular deal and use the money to buy a nibbler
23:06 rue_shop2 I have these unpluggable 4 position pcb lugs, and I dont know why I got them, I dont even know if there was a reason
23:06 rue_shop2 I think its cause they called them 'switches'
23:06 rue_shop2 and I had to see if the image was right
23:07 dumbass-afk i don't think anyone wants them
23:08 dumbass-afk just a black plastic block with 4 lugs on it? they call those MDA2504 and such
23:10 rue_shop2 :) with the 20 db9F I just got, I finished my new rs232 level converter board
23:10 rue_shop2 I'm still pondering buying that lot of 10 of them for 1.50ea
23:10 rue_shop2 (converters)
23:11 dumbass-afk sounds pricey
23:11 rue_shop2 $1.50 for a rs232 to ttl board, not really
23:11 dumbass-afk oh the whole board
23:11 rue_shop2 with parts, assembled
23:12 mbass-afk looks at 1000 mouse/keybd jacks for 99 c
23:12 e_shop2 looks at $78 shipping to ca
23:12 dumbass-afk yyeeeouch
23:14 dumbass-afk 2 cents for HDMI jacks?
23:14 rue_shop2 hmm I just realized
23:15 rue_shop2 the motherboard I'm using on buddy, has a serial port that dosn't work caues buddy has no -12V supply for the rs232 converter
23:15 rue_shop2 I'm just taking it abck to ttl right away anyhow
23:15 rue_shop2 I was gonna build an inverter that mounted to the motherboard to generate the -12V
23:16 rue_shop2 which I would then plug a converter into....
23:16 rue_shop2 so the idea I just got is to put a board on with my ttl serial header on it
23:16 rue_shop2 instead
23:24 mbass-afk ponders scampery sh
23:41 dumbass-afk now wonder i can't read that idiot file, it's polish,, my bot is reading polish,, or at least writing it
23:42 dumbass-afk is "gmina" actually part of the real name people call "Gmina Obrzycko" in Poland?