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Sep 19 2013

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01:12 orlok 23 months old
01:12 orlok :)
02:01 katsmeow-afk aw man, you grown them fast , and she somehow already looks smart,, you have her oscope- or telescope-trained yet?
02:02 katsmeow-afk those are some really really blue eyes
02:03 katsmeow-afk single open 2x6 beam ceilings?
02:05 orlok she has her mothers eyes
02:05 katsmeow-afk they are way too blue to be your's
02:05 orlok yeah, they call them cathedral ceilings here
02:06 tsmeow-afk used built-up beams (built by me) rather I shaped, 3) 2x4 top and bottom, 1/2 ply web , 19 tall ove
02:07 orlok 6x2 is about right, colourbond steel roof
02:07 orlok i think colourbond is an aussie thing
02:07 katsmeow-afk the bottom of the beam functions as a real handy cleated hangar
02:07 katsmeow-afk steel is gaining acceptance over here, specially near forest
02:07 orlok corrugated metal with either baked or 2 pac paint
02:07 katsmeow-afk yeas
02:07 katsmeow-afk my roof is steel too
02:18 orlok katsmeow-afk: local fire authority's official position for us is, if you cannot defend your house, by yourself, just leave - they wont be able to come and save you
02:18 orlok and leave the day before "high risk" days
02:19 orlok as all main roads are likely to be clogged by emergency crews
02:19 orlok recent change after a bushfire 5 or so years ago killed almost 200 people
02:20 orlok so, summer will be interesting - both my family and my sisters are likely to go and hide at my mothers for anyextreme weather days
02:21 katsmeow-afk no roof insulation?
02:21 katsmeow-afk aren't you under trees?
02:21 orlok yeah, walls are weatherboard though
02:22 orlok pretty well surrounded by them
02:22 katsmeow-afk oh,, insulation can save you money over heating and cooling costs
02:23 katsmeow-afk i use heat in this room (24x16ft, 9ft ceiling) only if the temperature outside goes below freezing for 2 days
02:23 katsmeow-afk i run 900 watts heat only in daytime for the whole downstairs (48x24ft)
02:24 katsmeow-afk 14m x 7m
02:26 katsmeow-afk one winter, i heated the bedroom with 1 propane lamp, run as dim as it could run, and it was below freezing outside for many nites, but stayed 78F/25C inside
02:27 katsmeow-afk had to change the air when the carbon monoxide detector sounded, or the day before
03:00 GuShH orlok: so.. breaking bad
03:17 GuShH katsmeow-afk: thoughts on these 1996 era import milling machines? http://bimg2.mlstatic.com/agujereadora-fresadora-de-banco_MLA-F-3141253967_092012.jpg I know it's round column... I'm trying to avoid them... However it's 3HP 380v (three phase) full gear head, mt3 quill and some other neat features.
03:17 ShH likes the color scheme on the w
03:18 GuShH maybe the jacuzzi is part of the deal?
03:20 GuShH of course I need to factor in the cost of a 5.5HP or so VFD
03:20 GuShH a 3HP would be too tight
03:22 tsmeow-afk just got up outa bed because she remembered where the alligator clips were and just HAD to make up banana-gator jumper leads NOW <sigh
03:23 GuShH sounds like a yummy milkshake, banana-gator.
03:24 katsmeow-afk that motor looks smaller than 5hp
03:24 GuShH I said it's 3HP
03:24 katsmeow-afk ah, so you did
03:24 GuShH I wouldn't use a 3HP VFD for a 3HP motor
03:24 tsmeow-afk
03:24 katsmeow-afk got the right collets you like?
03:25 GuShH no
03:25 GuShH and nothing is included
03:25 GuShH just the cheap vise and a taiwan / china crappy drill chuck
03:25 katsmeow-afk and i dunno how you like it, but the 2nd thing i'd do is put a 90 degree gearbox(s) on that one crank, so it doesn't crank into your gearbox
03:26 GuShH I keep finding used mills with drill chucks on them, when I ask for the collets they say "we always used the drill chuck for milling" ... o...k...
03:26 GuShH moving on...
03:26 katsmeow-afk but you can get a regular set of collets for it, it's not something wierd, not allowed into your country?
03:26 GuShH what's the collet mount called?
03:27 GuShH I can get regular sized collets, but a MT3 "mount" may be an issue.
03:27 katsmeow-afk ummm the hole in the end of the quill
03:27 GuShH not really
03:27 GuShH hobby machines are mt2 or smaller
03:27 katsmeow-afk if i am seeing the scale of that thing right, that's the biggest "table-top" mill i have ever seen
03:28 GuShH 700lbs or so
03:28 katsmeow-afk does the stand come with it too?
03:28 GuShH that's not the original stand, didn't ask.. I'm not that interested
03:28 GuShH shipping is always the biggest issue
03:28 katsmeow-afk drive your truck to get it, a toyota with good tires can haul 700 lbs
03:28 katsmeow-afk if the price is right, i'd jump on it
03:29 GuShH ok it's conveniently called a collet chuck.
03:29 GuShH that's what adapts the collect to the quill.
03:29 katsmeow-afk yeas
03:29 GuShH I don't have a truck...
03:29 GuShH that's rue.
03:29 katsmeow-afk IF the quill is made to take the collets you like
03:29 GuShH in theory I could turn the chuck myself
03:29 katsmeow-afk what will they accept for it?
03:30 katsmeow-afk heck, in theory you can make all your collet chucks
03:30 katsmeow-afk they sell blanks in many flavors
03:30 GuShH a lot more than I'm willing to pay for no accessories and a banged up old mill
03:31 katsmeow-afk i was just looking for the top-mounted release that runs down thru the quill, i can't tell if that is a hydraulic like up there or not
03:31 katsmeow-afk o
03:31 tsmeow-afk will quit looking at it
03:31 GuShH not sure
03:31 GuShH no actual description
03:32 GuShH ZX-28
03:32 tsmeow-afk had a ZX-80, different machine i am
03:32 GuShH SHAN DONG AUTOMOBILE GEAR GENERAL FACTORY CHINA
03:33 GuShH I'm sure they're long gone.
03:33 GuShH I still don't get how they're milling with a drill chuck.
03:33 katsmeow-afk https://duckduckgo.com/?q=SHAN+DONG+AUTOMOBILE+GEAR+GENERAL+FACTORY+CHINA
03:33 GuShH no chance of the taper getting loose and the chuck flying away with endmill and all?
03:34 GuShH no chance the jaws are not designed for side loads and they grind themselves to dust?
03:34 katsmeow-afk that's why i was looking for how it is held in
03:34 GuShH I've found one reference to this machine, someone complaining about the gear oil running down the quill and not being able to fix it
03:35 tsmeow-afk prefers a positived threaded collet that grips the hell outa the
03:35 GuShH then some wise ass replying " you should call the company and have a talk to their fitter "
03:35 katsmeow-afk can't fix a lil oil leak?!? never heard of t-shirt rags??
03:35 GuShH lol
03:35 GuShH I'm sure as any oil leak, it must be annoying.
03:36 GuShH althought he's getting free coolant on the work!
03:36 katsmeow-afk Qing Dao Quanjiang Car Fittings Factory ... Jin Huang Industrial,Long Shan Office,Jimo, Qing Dao, Shan Dong, China. Zip/Postal : 266205 Telephone : 86-532-86592568 Fax : 86-532-86580907
03:36 ShH chuc
03:36 katsmeow-afk nope, i cannot say that 3 times fast
03:36 GuShH car fittings factory!
03:37 katsmeow-afk you said they were
03:37 GuShH yeah the plate on the side of the machine said shan dong
03:37 GuShH or rather, reads.
03:37 ShH is sl
03:38 GuShH katsmeow-afk: I'd much rather get one of these older ones http://bimg1.mlstatic.com/fresadora-graf_MLA-F-4153198726_042013.jpg for a lot less
03:38 GuShH those are from when we had an actual industry and we were making them here
03:39 GuShH except for the chuck, looks like a standard jacobs from usa...
03:39 katsmeow-afk "The worst case of mass mercury poisoning the world has ever seen happened in Japan in the first half of the 20th Century." <<== BBC has never heard the phrase "mad as a hatter"
03:43 katsmeow-afk damnit, miniflourescent just exploded
03:43 GuShH kaboom?
03:43 GuShH the one outside died
03:43 GuShH I haven't got a replacement yet
03:43 GuShH it's the bugs and flying demons that kill my lamps
03:43 GuShH moths and such
03:44 GuShH well I do have a 150W incandescent flood light, with motion trigger that still works...
03:44 GuShH but nothing to illuminate the entrance
03:44 ShH hates running underground wires, it's the worst th
03:45 GuShH first of all, I haven't found a way to dig the trenches that doesn't put me in bed for a week... secondly, I don't even think a wetback would appreciate such jobs.
03:46 Tom_itx use a ditchwitch knife
03:46 GuShH a what the heck?
03:47 GuShH I've heard yanks use cheap chainsaws instead
03:47 katsmeow-afk hot as a firecracker
03:47 GuShH then ya'll run to HF and complain it don't-werk-no-moar
03:48 katsmeow-afk i killed power, got gloves, set it in bench vise to cool
03:48 katsmeow-afk use a small demolition hammer, it's how i got the pipes and power thru 8" poured concrete wall
03:49 Tom_itx http://compare.ebay.com/like/370442658579?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
03:49 GuShH "I'ma sue ya'll for tis here imports! -- Nuthin' like a good ol' a'muricah achain-asaw heehaw"
03:49 katsmeow-afk i was sawing a tree stump today, got 3/4 thru, there was a rock embedded in the stump, sawed it in half, tomorrow haveto sharpen the chain
03:50 GuShH Let's exercise my memory
03:50 GuShH You switched to an electric chainsaw
03:50 GuShH yes?
03:50 katsmeow-afk yeas, Ryobi 20" blade
03:50 GuShH what did I win?
03:50 Tom_itx http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.desr-tx.com/Images/Ready-To-Use/Rental_Equipment/DitchWitch_1030/DitchWitch_1030-Rental-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.desr-tx.com/Rental.html&h=698&w=1080&sz=171&tbnid=C1VPtivZShQkLM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=139&zoom=1&usg=__8b4BsRUqUfFdyg9w8LSFCElYR1c=&docid=7wE52RNEQ-qHdM&sa=X&ei=87Y6UqbmBaHG2wWdvoHYDg&ved=0CGIQ9QEwBA
03:50 GuShH oh yeah let's just buy one of those diesel tractors
03:50 Tom_itx rent
03:50 GuShH let me grab the change from my pocket
03:51 GuShH nah renting around here is impossible.
03:51 katsmeow-afk Tom, those don't work here, last one they blew the hydraulics and left 20 gallons of hydraulic fluid in my driveway
03:51 GuShH they pretty much want you to leave your kidney behind
03:51 katsmeow-afk they use a vibrating wedge thing now
03:51 Tom_itx you won't have to lube your drive for a bit then
03:51 Tom_itx i was tryin to find a pic of a wedge
03:52 Tom_itx carry on...
03:52 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ditch-Witch-H331-VIBRATORY-CABLE-PLOW-VIBRATING-BLADE-ATTACHMENT-FOR-TRENCHER-/370873803503?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item5659cd22ef
03:52 GuShH lol that's convenient http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRENCHER-WIRE-CABLE-INSTALLER-Commercial-Trenches-Fills-5-5-Hp-Honda-/130995371119?pt=BI_Trenchers_Walk_Behind&hash=item1e7feebc6f
03:53 GuShH katsmeow-afk: I know they exist, I just can't afford nor have space for one. And renting isn't cheap either
03:53 GuShH it's cheaper to pay someone to do it for you
03:53 tsmeow-afk
03:53 GuShH with a friggin shovel.
03:54 GuShH I like how they spray painted on top of the dirt
03:54 GuShH and hoses
03:54 GuShH the old "let's make it look new" strategy
03:55 katsmeow-afk just lay the wire in water pipe across the drive,a nd slop some cement onto it?
03:55 GuShH nah
03:55 katsmeow-afk yeas, i was so pissed i paid to have an autotranny rebuilt, and it came back with spray painted dirt on it
03:56 GuShH truth be told the biggest issue with a shovel is not moving dirt, it's the rocks and roots...
03:57 katsmeow-afk plant a flower bed there and tell everyone to stay out of it,, someone will come over and cut the trench where you planted
03:57 GuShH I have a stump remover / pry bar I can use for that, but I'll end up in bed for a week.
03:58 GuShH so that's why there's only one light outside.
03:58 katsmeow-afk i planted soem flowers, they actually had flowered too, and got concreted by guys washing out the delivery truck
03:58 GuShH sigh
03:59 katsmeow-afk install a crane to un/load stuff, you'll need it for the 700 lb mill anyhow, when not in use leave it over the driveway with it's lites on
04:00 GuShH I won't need it
04:00 GuShH I didn't need one for the lathe
04:00 GuShH ...took it apart, moved the small parts.
04:00 GuShH you need to do that anyway with a used machine
04:02 GuShH katsmeow-afk: these mills split in at least 5 managable pieces
04:02 GuShH motor, headstock, column, table, base
04:02 katsmeow-afk k
04:03 GuShH specially since it's round column, there are no linkages to the base.
04:03 katsmeow-afk yeas, that's a pain
04:03 GuShH but to me that's also it's biggest flaw, they're less rigid
04:03 GuShH maybe even less accurate if play allows the head to rotate a bit?
04:03 GuShH or rather, swivel.
04:04 katsmeow-afk myfloor drill press has a round column, it's incredibly flexable,, and the quill was thinner than the chuck capacity :-/
04:04 GuShH I sense a lot of "locking and hoping"
04:04 GuShH I filled up the column on my tiny drill press with concrete and rebar
04:04 GuShH works a lot better now, and it's not just my imagination.
04:05 katsmeow-afk it's still apart after the dismantle for the Fla fiasco, when i put it backtogether it will be heavier and stronger, and sturdyier, and with more pushbuttons
04:05 GuShH whatever vibration is left is probably due to the crappy belt or some mis-alignment on the puleys
04:05 GuShH lol
04:05 GuShH the biggest flaw on this drill press is the table
04:05 GuShH it flexes.
04:05 katsmeow-afk start with, making a new quill, something HEAVY DUTY
04:05 GuShH and since it's iron, I can't really weld to it
04:05 GuShH the quill is ok for it's size
04:06 GuShH 4 ball bearings in total
04:06 katsmeow-afk mine is iron also, i'm going to put a 20inch jack under it, so the original pipe is just ONE of the guides
04:06 GuShH thought about that
04:06 GuShH but I would need a taller column too
04:07 GuShH it would make it a lot more useful though
04:07 katsmeow-afk that's the only real problem with bench tools, height
04:07 GuShH if precision is not a requirement you can do micro-milling on one of those, with a chinese xy table (in theory xz?)
04:08 katsmeow-afk but my bench drill press is to light to consider tall heavy stuff in it anyhow
04:09 GuShH katsmeow-afk: well, it's a bench press :p
04:10 katsmeow-afk for whatever stupid reason, the quill on my floor drillpress was necked down just above the taper (and locking collar), and that's where it bent one day at 4000 rpm
04:10 GuShH :/
04:10 katsmeow-afk the chuck is 1/2 " capacity, the neck-down was 3/8
04:10 GuShH I'm surprised it goes to 4000
04:10 katsmeow-afk has a 3600 rpm motor, and belt grooves from 850 rpm to 8000
04:11 GuShH jeez
04:11 GuShH so it's not really a metal working machine more like wood...
04:11 katsmeow-afk why? i dunno, it was an option bolton extention range, and the original buyer spent all his money on it
04:12 GuShH I tend to see bigger, sturdier, slower machines are meant for metal in general. (not talking about CNC whatsoever, that's another beast)
04:12 katsmeow-afk which is why the oem pulley set went down to 850 rpm, with a 1800 rpm motor it would hit 425 or so
04:13 GuShH katsmeow-afk: cast iron pulleys? why is cast iron preferred to aluminum, aside from it's mass and probably rigidity? heh
04:13 katsmeow-afk the high rpm grooves literally bolted onto the oem set, aluminum
04:13 GuShH o.O
04:13 GuShH a "pulley hat" heh
04:14 katsmeow-afk lok at it thios way: would yoou have trusted cast iron up there spinning at 4000 rpm?
04:14 GuShH not from china
04:14 GuShH and not with a lunchbox on top to cover them up
04:15 katsmeow-afk right
04:15 katsmeow-afk it is Sears, but discontinued 40 yrs ago, so i dunno where it was made, but prolly China
04:15 GuShH mine resonates... at certain speeds
04:15 GuShH they go through the trouble of fitting a safety switch, they can't just make it sturdier instead? stupid safety queens
04:15 GuShH I don't have a problem with china-made as long as it's been taken apart, inspected and rebuilt.
04:16 tsmeow-afk has a problem with safety switches when one hasto get close to an out-of-control machine to operate the sw
04:17 GuShH http://www.ihcnc.com/images/clip_image010.jpg that's so cute, too bad it's low res
04:17 katsmeow-afk it's like when the gasket blows on your freon guage hose, and the only way to turn off the freon is exactly where the liquid freon is blowing on
04:18 GuShH so sitting on the bed of the RF45 (I assume that's what it is) we've got a sieg... x1 or x2 ?
04:18 GuShH you can see why I wouldn't want to "invest" on a mini mill, they're toys
04:18 katsmeow-afk you know that table is o wide it will unbalance the machine at the ends of travel
04:19 GuShH the machines should be bolted to the stand
04:19 katsmeow-afk HF had some pretty big table mills at one time, round and square colums
04:19 GuShH likewise with a benchtop drill press
04:20 katsmeow-afk my bench top drill press is bolted down
04:20 GuShH these all use R8 spindle tapers though
04:20 GuShH don't know why
04:20 katsmeow-afk when the floor press is up again, it's gonna be bolted to the wall studs as well
04:20 GuShH counter act the cantilever action heh
04:21 katsmeow-afk it ain't gonna move, the top of the corner is holding up a 19 inch tall steel I beam 25ft long
04:22 katsmeow-afk and a open web beam 16ft off 90 degrees to that I beam
04:22 tsmeow-afk built a fairly strong house, in pl
04:23 GuShH FT45P .. can't find it, but I can find RF45... sigh
04:23 GuShH katsmeow-afk: strong and well insulated!
04:23 katsmeow-afk yeas
04:23 katsmeow-afk shame
04:23 GuShH aside from politicians I would also have architects shot.
04:23 GuShH they're mostly clueless dipshits.
04:24 katsmeow-afk nah, they build to a profit point, that's all
04:24 GuShH they don't really design with logic in mind
04:24 katsmeow-afk http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=mill
04:25 GuShH heh knee mills
04:25 GuShH that I can't move.
04:25 katsmeow-afk 2 benchtop models, i think both have round posts
04:25 GuShH I've also thought to adapt one of these on the lathe http://www.harborfreight.com/5-rugged-cast-iron-drill-press-milling-vise-69159.html
04:26 GuShH the lathe milling vises they sell around here are way worse.
04:26 GuShH I only need up/down travel, but they are horrible.
04:26 GuShH plus I would only get a small milling area
04:26 katsmeow-afk error : unusually high traffic, blah blah
04:26 GuShH very limited in every way
04:27 katsmeow-afk i get a blank page
04:27 katsmeow-afk however, i looked at a mess of HF's vises, i didn't like any of them
04:28 katsmeow-afk basically, any place o their vises where you see something might move, note that point does not fit, and will not work as expected
04:28 GuShH only 10 dollars? http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-1-4-quarter-inch-c2-carbide-tipped-lathe-cutting-bits-38886.html
04:28 ShH gets the shotgun and pays someone a v
04:29 katsmeow-afk Enco had a really great sale on lathe bits a few yrs ago, and they been sending me flyers like mad lately, .. www.use-enco.com , i think
04:31 GuShH bah no use in browsing
04:31 GuShH this is getting worse than Cuba
04:31 GuShH and nobody has the balls to pull the trigger
04:31 katsmeow-afk ?
04:31 GuShH Argentina, politicians.
04:35 GuShH katsmeow-afk: wouldn't work anyway, if you shot whoever is in charge another, worse politician would pop out of a hole in the ground.
04:36 katsmeow-afk i agree
04:36 Faek I thought politicians were grown in tanks
04:36 GuShH yes, septic tanks.
04:37 Faek Well played, good sir
04:39 katsmeow-afk tis after 4am ,, i am done soldering, gnites
04:55 GuShH pft I woke up at 4!
05:18 GargantuaSauce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8yV5D8Cpoc
05:24 GuShH old technology reapplied
05:24 GuShH wtf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9om9MU9RVU
05:25 GargantuaSauce every video you link to has a super irritating intro
05:25 GuShH who is this retard and why does he have so many views?
05:26 GuShH GargantuaSauce: it's even more irritating when the intro clip is repeated in the end, as is in your video.
05:26 GuShH editors love to stretch material.
05:26 GuShH as the common american has an attention span similar to a goldfish.
06:04 GargantuaSauce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjTLyUgS5uk
06:04 GargantuaSauce wat.
06:04 GuShH GargantuaSauce: less watching more building!
06:04 GargantuaSauce i am trying to procrastinate jeez
06:04 GargantuaSauce not in building mode right now anyway, need to write moar software
06:05 GargantuaSauce a link-layer wireless protocol to control my shit
06:05 ShH hands GargantuaSauce a bucket of co
06:05 GargantuaSauce just had an energy drink
06:05 GuShH so what
06:05 ek pours energy drink in the co
06:06 GuShH eek
06:06 GuShH might as well drink piss with sugar.
06:06 Faek DOUBLE THE POWER
06:10 GuShH GargantuaSauce: that's awesome, I'm still grinning
06:11 GargantuaSauce i just don't get it
06:11 GuShH I do it's fantastic.
06:12 Faek Dont worry GargantuaSauce i dont either
06:12 GargantuaSauce i guess it made me think though
06:12 GuShH There's no actual application I can think of, but the concept is novel.
06:13 GargantuaSauce yeah if they automated it and used molds (ie placed a couple pieces of cardboard along the edges) it would be workable i guess
06:14 GuShH cardboard sticks to poly foam
06:14 GuShH would have to be lined with nylon film or similar as well
06:14 GargantuaSauce well even if it stayed there that'd be fine too
06:14 GargantuaSauce anyway i think there are much better ways to do self-configuring modular robots
06:14 GuShH if you look at the canister it says what it doesn't stick to and what it does stick to
06:15 GuShH you can also have a finer degree of deployment of the foam
06:15 GargantuaSauce and better motion control lol
06:15 GuShH why is my cat licking my laptop god dammit
06:15 GargantuaSauce because it smells like you and is warm
06:15 GuShH no and no!
06:15 GargantuaSauce and is effectively a part of you
06:15 GuShH I don't touch that part and it barely gets warm, it's using 9W right now
06:16 GargantuaSauce cats are pretty dumb
06:16 Faek It's marking its territory
06:16 GuShH I'll take that
06:16 GargantuaSauce hmm...i have a bunch of those cheapass geared monopolar stepper motors
06:16 GuShH she's not dumb, just likes the attention.
06:17 GargantuaSauce sticking a bolt on the shaft would make for a pretty simple and reasonably strong modular attachment mechanism
06:17 GuShH nah
06:17 GuShH how about ball joints
06:17 GuShH you can lock them with a cam
06:18 GuShH rotary motion left or right to lock it in place if movement is not desired
06:18 GuShH and to pop them in and out you have many options
06:19 rgantuaSauce adds another thing to dick with to his miles-long
06:19 GuShH a mile long dick.
06:19 GargantuaSauce on an unrelated note when my new servos arrive i might not use them to make a hexapod first
06:20 GuShH we could make a brochette using one of them and every single politician I know of
06:20 GargantuaSauce i might try 3x8dof
06:20 GuShH undecided much?
06:21 Faek Pfft. He hasnt got them yet. Its ok to be undecided
06:21 GargantuaSauce there are far too many options to just choose one and stick with it!
06:21 Faek Now when he's had them for a month and done nothing now thats not ok
06:21 GuShH start using a more modular system for your servos
06:21 GuShH so you can pluck them in and out as desired
06:21 GuShH Faek: that sounds more lime me
06:21 GargantuaSauce well having them bolt together will help
06:21 GuShH like me*
06:22 GargantuaSauce and as long as they arrive before november i'll definitely be promptly messing with the
06:22 GargantuaSauce m
06:22 GuShH let's see some of your 3d designs!
06:23 GargantuaSauce haven't made any yet, other than some poor hexapod leg ones that i couldn't get to print
06:23 GuShH pft
06:23 GargantuaSauce and i probably wont make any more until i get my hands on those new servos and can measure them precisely
06:24 GuShH bah excuses
06:24 GuShH there are datasheets online
06:24 GargantuaSauce havent found any drawings for the brackets
06:24 GuShH that's because you should be making your own
06:24 GuShH or buying from someone who at least provides the drawings :p
06:24 GargantuaSauce the latter generally involves a considerably higher price
06:25 GargantuaSauce and i intend to make my own eventually
06:25 GargantuaSauce and yes i am just full of excuses
06:26 ek high fives GargantuaSa
06:27 GargantuaSauce speaking of modularity my hexapod tore itself apart again
06:27 GargantuaSauce hot glue isnt the best structural material
06:28 Faek I find it tends not to hold together very well when it gets wet
06:39 GuShH GargantuaSauce: use 2 part epoxi then
06:39 GuShH or start using real building materials :p
06:39 GargantuaSauce i have a bunch of Real Adhesives but didn't want the joint to be permanent
06:39 GargantuaSauce just temporarily robust 8)
06:39 GuShH pft
06:40 GargantuaSauce but yes obviously the best way would be to make a real frame for those legs
06:40 GargantuaSauce as opposed to hotgluing together the hip and femur servos
06:41 GargantuaSauce but whatever this thing's going to be irrelevant in a month anyway
06:58 GuShH theBear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI6RyfsPhmw (couldn't find the actual video)
08:54 GuShH theBear: heh people selling kits and such for those vises... to "correct" them
08:54 GuShH what a joke
09:10 GuShH katsmeow-afk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tPTLwmxsWc
09:16 uehuehue Didn't kats get banned or left or something?
09:18 Tom_itx she's here
10:48 MrCurious flight cancled, please have another day of vacation labor at your parents.
11:05 MrCurious Obamacare's Boehner keeps popping up....
11:05 MrCurious its like 9th grade all over again!
11:26 MrCurious1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEGTe1G2Gqs
11:26 MrCurious1 briliant
11:29 mindw0rk why is this version of the rep rap better?
11:29 mindw0rk needs lest metallic nonprintable parts?
11:29 mindw0rk or is it the size
11:31 MrCurious1 all repraps need motors...
11:31 MrCurious1 but it looked to be a rather simple design
11:31 GargantuaSauce woah that is a weird-ass design
11:31 GargantuaSauce first rotary delta i've seen
11:32 MrCurious1 i bet that would be machinable via robustra on a cnc...
11:32 MrCurious1 only thing i cant work out is what the steppers are driving, and how its making the motion
11:35 GuShH MrCurious1: timing belts most likely with a worm drive
11:36 MrCurious1 that could do it
11:36 GuShH highly limited design though
11:36 GuShH overly complex
11:36 GargantuaSauce no worm drive, just belts
11:36 MrCurious1 love to see a pic of how that is done. i am having trouble visualizing it in a 100% confidence way
11:37 GuShH those are worm gears
11:37 GargantuaSauce oh yes was looking at old cads
11:37 GuShH I'm not looking at any cads just watched a few seconds of the video then closed it
11:37 ShH s
11:37 MrCurious1 i just watched the video
11:38 ShH idly sneezes on GargantuaSauce's keyb
11:38 rgantuaSauce douses GuShH in isopropanol and brandishes his torch menaci
11:40 GuShH :<
11:47 MrCurious1 gush needs a CNC welder
11:48 MrCurious1 a big assed menacing one
11:52 GuShH a big xy table could serve as one
11:52 GuShH also plasma cutting
11:52 GuShH no space for one though... not currently.
11:53 GuShH I'd like it to be at least 1x2 meters on the bed, working surface.
11:53 GuShH we can all dream, right?
11:54 GuShH looking at used milling machines... there's a whole lot with endmills, chucks, collets and whatnot, needs to be refurbished though, thing is they're in the middle of nowhere...
11:54 MrCurious1 ceiling mount
11:54 GuShH ?
11:54 MrCurious1 or just a nice big arm of multi heads of danger
11:55 GuShH too expensive to do it properly
11:55 MrCurious1 welder, mill, plasma, water cutter
11:55 MrCurious1 would be terrifying
11:55 GuShH so now I'd need a water tight tray
11:55 GuShH it would be ferrifying if all the heads worked at the same time, each with it's own arm.
11:55 GuShH ffffeerrriffing can't type today
11:56 MrCurious1 if you had that you would need a surgeons table, and a tranq gun to give people alien abduction experiences
11:57 GargantuaSauce it's so unsettling that you turn into iron
11:57 GuShH stupid cheap ass electrical conduit...
11:57 GuShH it claims UV protection and whatnot, it crumbles when you twist it the wrong way
11:57 GuShH it's been outside for a week, not 10 years
11:58 ShH bets it's made in c
11:58 GuShH they probably used recycled flipflops and condoms to make them
11:58 MrCurious1 probbly imported from 4th world nation
11:58 GuShH the blue colouring comes from abducted smurfs
11:59 GuShH not sure how they make the orange ones
11:59 GuShH stolen bricks I guess.
12:02 GuShH looking at auctions... I think the second bucket is where they processed the previous owner of the milling discs http://bimg2.mlstatic.com/fresa-sandvik-con-portainsertos-para-fresadoraagujeradora_MLA-F-4229749873_042013.jpg
12:03 GuShH these are vestigial remnants of our industry...
12:04 MrCurious1 your country HAD industry?
12:04 GuShH as much as yours once had one.
12:04 MrCurious1 without industry, how do your people make money
12:04 GuShH Sorry but you don't have an industry either.
12:04 MrCurious1 we invent shit now
12:04 GuShH You've sold your machines already
12:04 GuShH You are potheads.
12:05 MrCurious1 its coming back... $3/hoour for a machine is cheaper than a chinese worker
12:05 MrCurious1 we have methheads too
12:05 MrCurious1 and crackheads
12:05 MrCurious1 and alcoholics
12:05 MrCurious1 sexaholics
12:05 GuShH sounds like theBear's ideal place
12:05 Curious1 presses the discoball on bu
12:06 GuShH sorry you've sold your discoball.
12:06 MrCurious1 eet-sa eet-sa eet-sa
12:06 MrCurious1 so republicans boehner are trying AGAIN to overturn national health care which teh senate, house and president passed, supreme court sustained
12:07 MrCurious1 definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over (41 times) expecting a different outcome
12:07 MrCurious1 this boehner pops up so much i would swear we were back in 9th grade...
12:08 MrCurious1 when history portrays him in movies, he is going to be one seriously 2-d charater like he is in real-time
12:08 MrCurious1 there, got tht out of mys system
12:09 ShH pats MrCuri
12:09 GuShH Better finish something today
12:10 MrCurious1 i am stuck at parents another day
12:10 MrCurious1 flight cancled
12:10 MrCurious1 no lab access
12:10 GuShH you call that a lab!
12:10 MrCurious1 i can feel my brain rotting
12:10 MrCurious1 more tools than u got
12:10 MrCurious1 so yes i cal it a FAB lab
12:10 GuShH THIS is a lab. http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/imagelibrary/Client%20Images/Client00004/00228000/00228816.jpg
12:11 GuShH I don't know if you've got more tools than I do...
12:11 GuShH you don't even have a welder sir.
12:11 GargantuaSauce this lab is fab
12:11 MrCurious1 i dont work in steel
12:11 MrCurious1 yet
12:11 MrCurious1 i am a programmer not a machinist
12:11 GuShH you are one of those "maker" wannabes!
12:12 MrCurious1 i seek to be more than i am
12:12 ShH grabs the g
12:12 MrCurious1 dont threaten me with a good time!
12:12 GuShH eek I was thinking duel.
12:12 MrCurious1 i like duels
12:13 MrCurious1 thats totally what i was thinking too
12:13 GuShH need to setup a panel for some of the tools...
12:13 GuShH we don't really have pegboard here
12:13 GuShH they sell some small portions of what looks like pegboard, but it's expensive and crappy
12:14 MrCurious1 trying to work out why i should not take a nap on a acation day
12:15 ShH sh
12:17 GuShH MrCurious1: you haven't told me why you needed a CNC mill
12:17 GuShH or whatever you plan to build
12:17 MrCurious1 robots
12:17 MrCurious1 its something to fight off boredom
12:17 Tom_itx everybody needs a cnc mill
12:17 Tom_itx not everybody knows it yet
12:17 GuShH too generic.
12:17 GuShH Tom_itx: maybe, maybe.
12:18 Tom_itx what's a 'maker wannabe'?
12:18 Tom_itx i make stuff
12:18 GuShH from make
12:18 Tom_itx i make my own stuff
12:18 GuShH similar to the arduino crowd
12:18 GuShH they don't.
12:18 GuShH they buy it.
12:18 Tom_itx or reprappers
12:18 GuShH I think that's a bit different
12:19 MrCurious1 i wanted to make one
12:19 Tom_itx the bulk of what i've seen them make is more repraps
12:19 GuShH ...wouldn't build one anyway
12:19 MrCurious1 its a ship in a bottle maneuver
12:19 GuShH I'd be wasting time and money
12:19 GuShH Tom_itx: lol
12:19 Tom_itx or barbie dolls
12:19 GuShH As long as they're making them bigger...
12:19 MrCurious1 or custom fit dildos...
12:19 GuShH soon they'll have one big enough to print themselves a girlfriend
12:19 ShH hifives him
12:19 MrCurious1 ribbed for her...
12:20 Tom_itx yes i'm sure that goes on but need not be discussed here
12:20 GuShH alright I'll move it to #dildonics
12:22 GuShH trying to figure out if the 3 jaw chucks that are seen on top of the used milling machine are included or not
12:22 GuShH everything else is... so why not
12:26 Curious1 chuckles poli
13:40 GargantuaSauce http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/n-b-couple-shocked-to-find-horse-standing-on-roof-1.1460707
16:35 GuShH hmmm an empty maritime container weighs 2.3 tons... I had no idea they were so heavy!
16:35 GuShH 6 meter long ones
18:23 GuShH http://smg.photobucket.com/user/byeboy/media/Scorpionblack.jpg.html