#robotics Logs

Sep 18 2013

00:17 GuShH rue_house: yes
00:17 GuShH the thing is having enough amperage to pull through without leaving enough residual heat to alter the entire structure of the metal
00:18 GuShH with 40A you could cut a regular leaf spring, but slowly... that's why I mention amperage, the longer it takes you to cut the more the heat will build up on the parts
00:19 GuShH air pressure plays a role of course and it depends on said amperage
00:19 GuShH if prices keep going up I'll never get a plasma cutter... damn country
00:20 GuShH oh and air quality is just as important, I'd have two inline filters instead of one
00:20 GuShH to prevent fouling of the consumables and other nasties.
00:21 GuShH seems some of the consumables could be easily turned on a lathe though
00:21 GuShH on a pinch at least
02:01 ShH wonders where the rue_hous
02:08 rue_bed in bed
02:32 GuShH http://i.imgur.com/zxNTwAE.jpg
05:38 GuShH rue_bed: that's odd, you are not the sleeping kind
05:45 ace4016 he's not sleeping in bed...just in bed
07:06 GuShH ace4016: that's just creepy
11:25 baordog_ Hello all
11:26 baordog_ What would be a good robotic/mechanical arm for a small business? I'm kind of a dufus looking to automation options. Never done a robot before.
11:27 MrCurious like this
11:27 MrCurious http://www.rethinkrobotics.com/
11:27 MrCurious baordog_: that what you are wanting
11:27 baordog_ Oh gawd.
11:27 baordog_ Creepers.
11:28 MrCurious you wanted to replace peoople with robots... i thought creepy was being ordered
11:28 baordog_ fair enough.
11:29 baordog_ but what would be a cheap/reliable simple grasping arm?
11:30 joga heh site reminds me mostly of this http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110501150844/fallout/images/thumb/8/8e/Yes_Man.png/500px-Yes_Man.png
11:30 MrCurious i think this one is 20k ish
11:30 MrCurious easily programmed by non technical people
11:30 joga baordog_, what do you need to grasp?
11:30 MrCurious i think in factory applications, you can pay for good hardware, or pay for good programmer staff
11:30 joga if you want to sort trash that's too fancy
11:31 MrCurious dont replace a $12/hour guy with a $60/hour one
11:31 baordog_ ^ good point
11:31 ordog_ is the $60/hr guy an
11:32 MrCurious its very noble to replace ones self for a company
11:32 baordog_ lol
11:32 MrCurious put that on a resume. hire me, and i will make my job redundant. hire me as often as you like
11:33 MrCurious actually with severance pay, that could be a good game
11:35 baordog_ On a more hobby level, how ward would it be to rig up a robotic hand? I had this idea of making some additional servo controlled fingers for an art thing.
11:35 baordog_ I'm pretty hand with an arduino, but I know very little of robotics
11:36 MrCurious welcome to the club. we meet in the evenings, and have constant show and tell :)
11:36 MrCurious the secret to robotics is ....
11:36 MrCurious pretend you know what you are doing, and just build it. if it doesnt work, pull out your surprised face until people wander off
11:37 baordog_ but the hand... any idea how hard?
11:37 MrCurious step one : google search robotic hand. then click on images in the search. visually scan all robotic hand images until you find one that looks achievable
11:38 MrCurious step 2: decompose design into components and master said motor/gear technologies, then set about fabrication of ridgid members
11:38 MrCurious thats my guess
11:38 baordog_ http://www.robotshop.com/mechate-robot-left-hand.html - how about this guy?
11:38 MrCurious but i stayed at a holiday in express last night
11:39 MrCurious you must be RICH
11:39 MrCurious if you buy it, but you may be able to DIY it
11:39 MrCurious i guess start by making a figer
11:40 MrCurious robustra has been working i that direction too
12:53 GuShH if you wanted to sort trash by means of mechanicals arms you'd be retarded...
12:53 GuShH sorry, mechanical*
12:54 ShH throws a Pepsi at MrCur
12:56 Curious performs tr
13:35 MrCurious good point. trash sortng is all abot burst of air, magnetics, inductive forces, various sized grates, water and floatation and wat not
13:35 MrCurious ninja vs samari vs pirate?
13:36 GuShH MrCurious: and yet we still employ people to sort through
13:36 GuShH our plants seem automated "enough" but there's people in the line and that's one way bodies are found...
13:37 MrCurious people are cheap, and it gives them a sence of purpose annd belonging
13:37 GuShH after the truck compacts the trash you can imagine it's not a pretty sight.
13:37 MrCurious and they pretend to work, and your country pretends to pay them
13:37 ShH sh
13:38 GuShH 183 usd for a crappy 4 inch XY vise... jeez
13:44 MrCurious this series bones is pretty good
13:44 GuShH on the up side the drill press has very little vibration now and the belt has worn in and softened up, can't ask for more for the cost.
13:44 GuShH bones...
13:44 MrCurious yup
13:44 MrCurious on netflix
13:44 GuShH ...but I'd like a small xy table to drill more precisely spaced holes
13:44 GuShH don't recall ever watching the show
13:44 MrCurious like a cnc would do
13:45 GuShH a cnc what? mill?
13:45 GuShH I'd rather get a big manly mill instead of building a tiny shitty cnc mill.
13:45 GuShH and to drill 4 holes I'm not going to spend 30 minutes setting up the software, making a dry run and then setting up for the actual cut
13:46 GuShH you can work a lot faster for such things if you have manual input
13:46 MrCurious use mmore aluminum and steel... man it up
13:46 GuShH and yes you can "manual input" a cnc mill, it's just clumsy
13:46 GuShH I'm not making a mill from scratch, not that insane.
13:46 GuShH that's rue's thing
13:47 GuShH he just rues it.
13:47 MrCurious i cant wit to get home to work on mine
13:47 GuShH pics?
13:48 GuShH just convert your existing mill or learn how to use it to begin with
13:48 GuShH I could just invest on a knee mill but the cost of shipping and handling is massive... plus I wouldn't be able to move it once it arrives
13:48 GuShH up to 250-300KG I can handle
13:49 MrCurious we need to find a useful outlet for all your negative energy
13:49 GuShH no, you bought a mini mill but you don't use it
13:49 GuShH why do you even want to build a xy table
13:50 GuShH clearly you'll just let it gather dust.
13:50 MrCurious its an academic exercize in futility, not utility
13:50 GuShH mr it's too hot to lift a screwdriver
13:51 GuShH MrCurious: the only shooting range I know of is now 40KM further away than it used to be
13:51 GuShH no, it didn't grow legs and run away, I moved.
13:51 GuShH maybe I should get a high powered air rifle for a change
13:52 GuShH at least you can shoot those legally around here
13:52 GuShH co2 with refill valve
13:52 MrCurious you lost me at mill
13:52 GuShH 22 cal
13:52 MrCurious lets talk about cats instead
13:52 GuShH you are always lost.
13:52 MrCurious how many are you up to now
13:52 GuShH cats are silly.
13:52 GuShH less than you for sure.
13:53 MrCurious i hear your count is on the move
13:53 ShH fr
13:53 GuShH I'll relocate them.
13:53 MrCurious on the move and going me mew mew
13:53 MrCurious thats it put em in a bag and toss em in a river
13:53 MrCurious major karma bomb
13:54 MrCurious barely survivable
13:54 GuShH and have her neutered.
13:54 MrCurious spayed if its a she
13:54 MrCurious hellp the doc out, have him looking in the right place
13:54 GuShH MrCurious: hm? local vet has a board where you can put your "free kitteh" ads
13:54 GuShH the procedure in cats is very similar
13:55 GuShH you can remove the entire uterus though
13:55 MrCurious and still they live with you and self replicate
13:55 GuShH MrCurious: I think more than a river some people chooose a bucket of water instead
13:56 GuShH I would use said rifle on them.
13:56 GuShH (the people)
13:56 GuShH Or better yet, the bucket.
13:56 GuShH After all a cat won't lie to you or run away with your moneis!
13:57 MrCurious sounds like someone has girl trouble... or ... boy troubles
13:57 GuShH and if you really want to be pedantic, I didn't say castration.
13:57 GuShH mr gay marriage is ok, I'm not into that.
13:57 ShH shakes
14:00 GuShH Interesting the small 4 inch vise costs as much as two drill presses, the 6 inch as much as 3! and it's not a milling vise, it's just a locating vise for drilling holes...
14:01 MrCurious just making conversation
14:01 MrCurious you have a drill presss and lathe... cant youo make a xy table already
14:01 GuShH but there's more iron in the actual drill press and just as much machining... it's got to be a demand issue
14:01 GuShH MrCurious: I don't want that, I want a real milling machine.
14:02 GuShH Which I could then convert if need be, while still being able to use it manually.
14:02 GuShH Conversion cost is about 40% of total cost though
14:02 MrCurious you should buy one first
14:02 GuShH I factored in the cost of making a proper xy table plus the steppers, drivers, etc. and it's similar to buying a used milling machine
14:02 MrCurious then you could use it to make all the other tools
14:03 MrCurious one tool to rule them all
14:03 GuShH I won't follow advice from someone who only used his to make holes.
14:03 MrCurious lord of the things
14:03 MrCurious i use it to make lines too
14:03 MrCurious and boxes on occasion
14:03 GuShH There are things I wouldn't buy, like a clamp set because they are terribly expensive here
14:03 MrCurious othertimes i use it to make steps in solid aluminum
14:04 GuShH With some spare time those clamps can be made very cheaply and to your own specifications
14:04 MrCurious but i am in my down time due to weather
14:04 MrCurious have to wait for end of oct
14:04 GuShH yeah yeah excuses.
14:04 MrCurious better excuses then excretions
14:04 GuShH tell that to your cats
14:05 MrCurious they live with me, and wear fur coats, they already know
14:05 GuShH 16 kilogram box (6 inch vise) that's why the shipping turned out costly...
14:06 MrCurious buy a $40 x-y vice from ebay and tune it
14:06 GuShH we can't buy shit from eBay
14:06 GuShH we can't even transfer funds from two local paypal accounts.
14:07 GuShH and this was the local ebay by the way. it doesn't cost 40 it costs 180 here.
14:08 GuShH MrCurious: aren't you American?
14:08 MrCurious yes
14:08 GuShH you should be saying vise, not vice sir.
14:08 MrCurious land of plenty
14:08 MrCurious fingers are on backwards this morning
14:09 GuShH Well in other countries it's correct anyway.
14:09 MrCurious you won thi one
14:09 MrCurious this one
14:09 GuShH Yey? it's not a competition though.
14:10 GuShH 5.5k for a vespa "sprint" 150cc, what are they smoking?
14:10 GuShH I guess if you're gay you'd have the money to drive gay as well.
14:10 GuShH or rather, ride gay.
14:10 GuShH It wasn't always the case, vespas were cool, originally.
14:11 MrCurious the fuc is a vespa
14:11 ShH fr
14:11 MrCurious that little skirt scooter?
14:11 GuShH yes
14:11 MrCurious you have to wear skirts to ride?
14:11 GuShH the original vespa had the engine mounted in the rear fender
14:11 GuShH pretty much direct drive if you will.
14:11 GuShH with a centrifugal clutch I believe.
14:12 GuShH but perhaps it had gears, I don't remember.
14:13 GuShH hahaha this is awesome http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics4/Vespa-600-Yamaha-1.jpg
14:13 MrCurious me thinks thow know too much about this to be carrying a man card....
14:13 MrCurious give me your man card... hand it over
14:13 GuShH that sounds gay, no way!
14:13 GuShH did I pass?
14:14 GuShH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVtCxkPDmo
14:14 MrCurious i suspet you have learned something about yourself today that others already knew...
14:14 ShH facep
14:14 GuShH That sir won't work with me.
14:14 MrCurious i am away from home, i have no tools, and only a computer
14:14 GuShH ...that's such a nice conversion, no point in it but so well done.
14:14 MrCurious not even a proper desk and chair
14:15 MrCurious all i can do is troll until friday
14:15 GuShH watch the video dammit
14:15 GuShH I feel bad for the FZR600 though
14:15 MrCurious dad gave me a 9101 rado controled helocopter
14:16 GuShH that's one bike I'd love to own
14:16 MrCurious wondering if it wants to get 10DOF + AVR + ARM + camera + wifi
14:16 GuShH I guess he bought a totalled one and recovered the engine
14:16 MrCurious FZ? a yamahaw?
14:16 MrCurious those are fun
14:16 GuShH expensive.
14:16 MrCurious i had a 1987 ssuzuki 550LG bought new
14:16 GuShH FZR are liquid farts. unlike the FZ which are low cost street bikes
14:17 MrCurious it woulld do 106 in 1/8th mile from a cold start
14:17 MrCurious MPH
14:17 GuShH and by liquid fart I mean fast bikes.
14:17 GuShH MrCurious: can you still ride one?
14:17 MrCurious havent for about 15- 20 years
14:18 MrCurious grew out of it, and california traffic is too dense and stupid for safe biking
14:18 GuShH even a 1992 FZR600 costs about 10k usd around here
14:18 MrCurious everyone goes 85MPH and lane changes without looking
14:18 MrCurious mine cost $2770 US in 1987
14:18 GuShH no looking, do they at least signal?
14:18 GuShH they don't here. most people assume they're in a nascar track...
14:19 MrCurious they signal if no one is around, but in tight traffic, signaling give up element of surprise, and lets other drivers close th gap up before they can get over
14:19 GuShH I couldn't spend that much on a 1992 bike
14:19 GuShH spares are hard to come by and just as expensive.
14:20 GuShH insurance might be problematic as well
14:21 GuShH I can't even legally drive a 600cc, stupid country. Doesn't matter how old you are, you need to ride 2 years at the 150cc category to then obtain a 250cc category, another 2-3 years and finally you can ride a 600cc
14:21 GuShH I'd imagine such limitations would be ideal for under-aged brats, not adults.
14:33 MrCurious exposed to poison ivy...
14:33 Curious gets religion
14:33 MrCurious so ony old men get to ride the 1100''s and 1600's
14:38 R0b0t1 GuShH, but the state knows best!
15:01 MrCurious OBEY!
15:01 MrCurious CONFORM!
15:03 MrCurious CONTRIBUTE!
16:36 ShH slaps robotu
16:36 GuShH sup
18:14 MrCurious "if i stop, i dont get paid" --BB King
19:41 katsmeow-afk the solar cells got up and left : http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2013/07/nasa-grover.jpg.662x0_q100_crop-scale.jpg
19:42 katsmeow-afk GROVER weighs 8000 pounds and consists of two solar panels that power a suite of equipment, including the radar, that sit atop two large snow mobile tracks. And some people can control it from Boise Idaho.
19:44 katsmeow-afk http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/673xvariable_height/public/8980180095_1f49e9f788_o.jpg
20:11 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP3gzee1cps
20:11 rue_house hahahahaaha
22:49 katsmeow-afk Germany is officially suggesting that winxp users switch to Ubuntu before M$ ends support for xp
22:51 katsmeow-afk http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/16/windows_xp_ubuntu_offer_munich/
23:14 MrCurious katsmeow-afk: ZERO-DAY-HAY-DAY
23:15 MrCurious brazil wants their own internet with a privte pipe to europe because america spied on the wron g people...
23:17 katsmeow-afk i am surprised they don't already have that