#robotics Logs

Sep 11 2013

00:44 GuShH (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3080/3175350501_fffee9f5e0_o.jpg)
00:44 GuShH now that's what I call chicken shit welds
00:52 GuShH ok... to be fair my first welds were worse than that
02:30 rue_house hahahaha
02:30 rue_house haha love this
02:30 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8n2Qgguto
02:31 rue_house eeek, sleep!
02:34 theBear SHEEP !?!?!?!? WHERE !??!?!!
11:13 KongfuPanda hiya
11:13 KongfuPanda a quick question
11:15 KongfuPanda if I have a voltage terminal of 1V, and digital control that I can set, and then by using this digital control I want to connect it to one out of 3 other terminals.
11:15 KongfuPanda is it best done with some transistors?
11:16 KongfuPanda it's for a friend , not for me :D
11:18 KongfuPanda anyway, doesn't really matter, he can read some electronics himself
11:18 KongfuPanda brb
11:34 SquirrelCZECH nah
11:34 SquirrelCZECH I love udacity
17:38 ShH slaps robotu
18:52 robotustra GuShH: WHAT FOR?
18:55 GuShH robotustra: just for being you
18:55 GuShH It's also how robots say "hi"
19:01 robotustra hi
19:01 robotustra thank you, me too
19:02 Shh_ fr
19:11 robotustra relax
19:17 Faek Take a break
19:24 e_house breaks somet
19:44 robotustra rue ne comprends pas de l'Anglais
21:24 MrCurious pre-flight jitters!
21:25 GargantuaSauce_ where're you flying
21:34 MrCurious visit family
21:35 Tom_itx how long a flight?
21:35 MrCurious takes off at noon pacifig, lands at 8 pm central
21:36 MrCurious so 6 hourss
21:36 Tom_itx no transfers?
21:36 MrCurious 1
21:36 Tom_itx dallas?
21:36 MrCurious so maybe 5 hours air time 1 hour grab ass time
21:36 Tom_itx st louis
21:36 MrCurious chicago
21:36 Tom_itx mmm
21:37 Tom_itx never been to that one
21:37 Tom_itx can't be worse than Houston
21:37 MrCurious i dont think anything short of kosovo can be worse than houston
21:37 Tom_itx had 20 min to get from one end to the other once
21:38 MrCurious i think they do that on urpose
21:38 MrCurious much easier now i dont stop for 3 smoke breaks in between flights
21:41 Shh_ idly pours concrete into his drill press co
21:41 Tom_itx i don't mind flying
21:41 MrCurious last flight, TSA confiscated my nail clippers
21:41 m_itx pours concrete in GuShh_'s sh
21:41 Shh_ puts Tom_itx in low earth orbit with just his shoe and lots of determina
21:41 MrCurious but i was able to buy an identitical pair from the shop 12 feed after the tsa scanners
21:41 GuShh_ rebar inside good idea?
21:41 Tom_itx wtf for?
21:42 GuShh_ less flexing of the column
21:42 Tom_itx it's for vibration not strength
21:42 MrCurious empth conduit. never know where you will want to string network cables
21:42 GuShh_ it's to dampen and add mass
21:42 Tom_itx pour lead in it
21:42 GuShh_ don't have any
21:42 MrCurious bolt it to the floor
21:43 Tom_itx i made me a well pipe driver that way once
21:43 GuShh_ that doesn't solve anything
21:43 Tom_itx 70lb
21:43 GuShh_ did you drill your own well?
21:43 GuShh_ I think someone from ##e did that once
21:44 Tom_itx i drove it
21:44 GuShh_ furrywolf maybe
21:44 Tom_itx sandpoint
21:44 Tom_itx more than once
21:45 MrCurious fill it with all the annoying mixed nut/bolt hardware laying around
21:45 GuShh_ but I already organized all of it!
21:46 GuShh_ still looking for mills
21:48 GuShh_ bah why does everyone have access to magic dumps
21:48 GuShh_ "If your looking for a stiff column that is cheap, try a hydraulic cylinder from any kind of construction equipment. They are very heavy wall and do not flex. Usualy found in a dump for free."
21:51 GuShh_ Tom_itx: did you start working on the camlock for the lathe?
21:56 Tom_itx nope
22:01 Tom_itx i threw one out off a bobcat several years back
22:01 GuShH it has to be the right diameter anyway
22:02 Tom_itx probably 3.5" i'd guess
22:02 GuShH and I'm not spending any more money on this cheapie drill press, just thought I could dampen some of the vibrations with the concrete that's all
22:02 Tom_itx it'll just collect moisture and rust it out sooner
22:03 GuShH the inside is primed with rust converter
22:03 GuShH from the factory
22:04 Tom_itx in china
22:04 Tom_itx does it glow in the dark?
22:04 GuShH yes
22:04 GuShH your mill is chinese too, why are you complaining!
22:04 GuShH it's as chinese as it gets!
22:04 GuShH even if it was rebranded.
22:04 Tom_itx which mill?
22:04 GuShH the cnc one
22:04 GuShH I think they're sold as "sieg" over there
22:04 Tom_itx not the sherline
22:06 GuShH Tom_itx: have you seen their factory?
22:06 Tom_itx not even once
22:06 GuShH I believe they just get the parts from china
22:07 GuShH it's irrelevant as long as they follow the manufacturing rules set by the buyer
22:07 Tom_itx i believe mine is old enough to be made in the usa
22:07 Tom_itx and if it were imported, it would have likely been from Japan back then
22:08 ShH has a lot of US made tools and isn't too excited about
22:08 GuShH Japan back when? when they were making cheap radios? heh
22:09 Tom_itx i've a cabinet full of snapon and sears
22:09 GuShH where's sears quality wise
22:09 Tom_itx i don't care, it's lifetime guaranteed
22:09 GuShH I'm asking because I don't know!
22:09 Tom_itx they have different grades
22:10 Tom_itx you can buy cheap shit that has no guarantee
22:10 GuShH most brands do
22:10 Tom_itx or good stuff that does
22:10 GuShH stanley makes cheap crap, but also industrial quality tools used in assembly lines all over the world
22:10 Tom_itx or polished good stuff
22:10 GuShH I don't like chromed tools
22:11 Tom_itx and a few model T tools
22:12 GuShH chrome just gets scratched up and if you've got a bit of oil in your hands / gloves they slide off easily
22:12 GuShH does look good though, but that's secondary
22:12 Tom_itx http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/73161.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/73090.html&h=480&w=640&sz=80&tbnid=W9Wii_sjURVSaM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__WBDTuLa6HkK5IZRgksVPfquijMY=&docid=RFeQgiKa0cImjM&sa=X&ei=fC0xUp-HI6mN2gXS0oDgBg&ved=0CEEQ9QEwAg&dur=1671
22:12 Tom_itx similar to those and a few more
22:14 GuShH heh on the news... guy lost 20k -- threw the money (kept in a trash bag) by mistake
22:14 GuShH but it had a happy albeit dirty ending, he recovered it... from the processing plant.
22:15 GuShH so many silly money stories...
22:16 GuShH plus how do you claim it to be yours, when it's already in a processing plant?
22:48 GuShH http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-gold-iphone
22:50 MrCurious its gold.....
22:51 MrCurious and now it reads your fingerprint, because the NSA lilkes to have updated fingerprints for EVERYONE
22:51 GuShH it's ugly if you ask me.
22:51 GuShH ghetto.
22:53 GuShH VP Gold lol
23:00 MrCurious iphone is so old news
23:00 MrCurious android is much faster evolving
23:00 MrCurious in my opinion
23:01 MrCurious and easier to use for robotics because its way more open
23:01 MrCurious put that in your iphone and smoke it
23:02 GuShH MrCurious: who are you talking to? :p
23:02 GargantuaSauce_ somewhere between 59 people and nobody in particular
23:02 GuShH I'd be the last person to buy an apple product from this channel
23:02 GuShH lol
23:14 MrCurious i was providing a service
23:14 MrCurious i thought my voice was music to angels, and highly sought after
23:14 MrCurious i know GuShH is a huge fan of poser prose
23:15 MrCurious or should we go back to discussing how best to fill GuShH's shaft....
23:17 GargantuaSauce_ i agree that GuShH should be the last to complain about gratuitous punditry
23:18 MrCurious only trip worry is can i bring lemon curd jars and fruit cake
23:18 MrCurious planning on checking in the bags its in
23:20 GargantuaSauce_ should be fine, i think the liquid bans are only for carryon stuff
23:20 MrCurious yeah
23:20 GargantuaSauce_ i bet fruitcake will look pretty funny on an xray
23:20 MrCurious hope so.. though i do hate checking on luggage
23:20 MrCurious we can hope
23:22 MrCurious i am traveling without a OSX computer... it feels strange
23:22 MrCurious like i am going back in time
23:22 MrCurious to a cruder, less organized place
23:22 MrCurious where computers were plastic and not aluminum
23:22 GuShH fanboys...
23:23 GuShH there's magnesium in mine, so fuck it
23:23 ShH gives the finger to a
23:23 GargantuaSauce_ personally i think i'd rather kill myself than use osx every day
23:23 GuShH Heh
23:24 MrCurious i enjoyed using it after it matured to version 10
23:24 GuShH weather cast... 3 days of storm, rain and whatnot.
23:24 MrCurious before that it was punishment
23:27 GuShH GargantuaSauce_: bah let the old man use whatever OS he wants...
23:27 GuShH It was that or DOS
23:28 GargantuaSauce_ again i am talking about me
23:28 GuShH You you you it's always about you
23:28 GargantuaSauce_ yes it is
23:28 GuShH Egotistical ball of .... sauce.
23:28 GargantuaSauce_ well i mean it should have been kind of obvious from the way i worded it
23:29 GuShH sure, pedantic sauce.
23:29 MrCurious bet you would like to sample his salty chocolate balls of.....sauce
23:29 GuShH no thanks
23:30 robotustra I whould like DOS wuth USB support
23:30 robotustra with
23:31 robotustra in x86 controller
23:31 GuShH that'd be so russian
23:31 robotustra ARM is a holy crap
23:31 GuShH why is it holy?
23:31 robotustra SoCs is a shit
23:31 robotustra ok, just cram, agree
23:32 GuShH if there's shit on your socks may I suggest you wear boots?
23:32 robotustra crap
23:32 GuShH robotustra: to each his own then
23:32 robotustra I don't understands jokes from BA
23:32 ShH eyer
23:32 robotustra :)
23:33 robotustra I'm half asleep
23:33 GuShH tell your other half to follow suit then
23:33 MrCurious BA? British America?
23:34 GuShH B.A. BARACUS
23:34 ShH stares at the
23:34 robotustra buenos noches
23:34 MrCurious i pitty da fool
23:34 GuShH bad attitude!
23:34 robotustra buenot aeros
23:35 GuShH cue the theme song
23:35 MrCurious Broken Algorhythms?
23:35 GuShH Breast Augmentation?
23:35 robotustra brocken ass
23:35 MrCurious Breast Awesomeification
23:35 robotustra broken
23:35 GuShH From your days in jail
23:35 theBear it's right there, fractured ass !
23:35 MrCurious Burning Anus
23:36 GuShH Funny Apricot!
23:36 GuShH I mean, damn.
23:36 ShH should have a co
23:36 robotustra have to make small UPS
23:36 GuShH oh?
23:36 robotustra for router and modem
23:36 robotustra just in case
23:36 GuShH theBear: do you still sport a ba baracus haircut
23:37 GuShH robotustra: 5v, 9v?
23:37 GuShH I put one together when I need to
23:37 robotustra 9 and 12 I think
23:37 GuShH never actually assembled it into a finished unit
23:37 robotustra not sure
23:37 GuShH mine are all 9VDC
23:37 theBear does the pope still wear half a beanie ?
23:38 MrCurious no now he only wears the kid who OWNS the beanie
23:38 robotustra there is a power supply with battery connectors
23:39 MrCurious now i have to go into the christmas protection program
23:39 GuShH lol
23:39 GuShH wahaha theBear: do you still have
23:39 GuShH oops, buffer messup
23:39 GuShH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rHL4P1_GFM
23:40 GuShH there's something funny going on with this client! who's messing with me! step off my lawn!
23:41 robotustra http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-5A-SW-Power-Supply-Battery-Backup-UPS-CCTV-Security/130698770300?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D1226855607881936644%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D140737779464%26
23:41 GuShH robotustra: waste of money
23:42 robotustra http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-5A-SW-Power-Supply-Battery-Backup-UPS-CCTV-Security-W30/161087758622?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D261%26meid%3D1226870927995741087%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D370895771560%26
23:42 robotustra did you see UPS for 40 $?
23:42 GuShH still a waste
23:42 GuShH it's not really a ups
23:42 GargantuaSauce_ http://www.ebay.com/itm/161087758622
23:42 GargantuaSauce_ do that with your ebay links
23:42 rue_house oops, I need to put money INTO the credit card every so often...
23:42 GuShH there's no battery it's just an smps with a diode
23:43 robotustra to make you own from parts will be more expensive
23:43 GuShH you are being silly as always
23:43 GuShH get a 13.6VDC source, float an SLA with it and use two DC-DC boards to obtain your regulated outputs.
23:43 GuShH should be under 10 bucks total.
23:44 GargantuaSauce_ no current limiting for the charge?
23:44 GuShH assuming you have the source and the sla
23:44 GuShH GargantuaSauce_: almost every smps has a current limiting circuit
23:44 robotustra and where is the connection of the battery?
23:44 GuShH hm?
23:44 GuShH you think these cheap ass SMPS are a safe bet?
23:44 robotustra the links I give you HAS BATTERY INPUT
23:44 GuShH yes, you need an external battery
23:45 GuShH obviously.
23:45 GargantuaSauce_ the ones he linked to actually have somewhat sane charging circuits
23:45 GuShH the input just has a couple diodes... it's a simple smps meant for cctv
23:45 GuShH they don't
23:45 GuShH I've dealt with them.
23:45 robotustra ok
23:45 GuShH a series resistor is as good as it gets in china
23:45 robotustra you are teling tha it's a crap also
23:46 GuShH for floating SLAs in good condition you don't need limiting of any sort, as long as your dc source is short-circuit and over-current protected
23:46 robotustra what is SLA?
23:46 GuShH sadly an ATX under no load is all over the place, otherwise it would've been a good alternative, just change the voltage divider by the controller reference to obtain 13.x v
23:46 GuShH sealed lead acid
23:47 robotustra ah ok
23:47 zap0 robotustra, service level agreement
23:47 robotustra battery
23:47 zap0 sealed lead acid then
23:47 GuShH robotustra: I didn't solder anything together for mine... the outputs each come from one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LM2596HV-LM2596S-DC-DC-Step-Down-CC-CV-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-/261201614159?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd0d4554f
23:48 GuShH and then you can use another one for floating the battery
23:48 GuShH and a regular dc wallwart
23:49 GuShH I'm sure you have at least one suitable dc source for this
23:50 GuShH actually these http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-LM2596HV-LM2596S-DC-DC-Step-Down-CC-CV-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-/180947008880?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a21483d70
23:51 GuShH I challenge you to find a cheaper, better alternative!
23:51 robotustra yeah, I have 12V 40 A for my cnc mill
23:51 GuShH overkill and too low voltage to float a 12v sla
23:52 orlok GuShH: chinese orphans on pushbikes wired to alternators
23:52 GuShH if it's an offline ups you can get away with very little current for the charger
23:52 GuShH orlok: you win
23:52 robotustra is there any 6v batteries?
23:52 GuShH sure
23:52 GuShH mine are 6v, two in series
23:52 GuShH 6v 10Ah I think, not sure.
23:52 GuShH yuasa something-something
23:52 GuShH that's the only brand I like.
23:52 robotustra tonight will be a storm
23:53 GuShH tomorrow here
23:53 GuShH same storm I think}
23:53 GuShH http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dc-adjustable-buck-step-down-converter-lm2596-voltage-regulator-with-voltmeter/200873979447?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D1227063047755050907%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D310642507908%26
23:53 GuShH amazing how cheap these things are
23:55 GuShH heh http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-PFM-Control-DC-DC-USB-0-9V-5V-to-5V-dc-Boost-Step-up-Power-Supply-Module/400345678301?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16680%26meid%3D1227074039349892310%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D7845%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D200873979447%26
23:55 GuShH GargantuaSauce_: quit grinding your teeth, I'm not shortening the URLs!
23:55 GargantuaSauce_ wheels are turning, GuShH. wheels are turning.
23:56 GuShH that's just your fat momma that fell down and began to roll down hill sir!