#robotics Logs

Jun 03 2013

01:17 hackkitten MrCurious: isn't that the reality, though? :)
01:18 MrCurious truth in advertising
01:19 MrCurious i really hate seeing so cal wild fires on the tv
01:19 MrCurious phew... its in LA
01:59 theBear pfft, i used to go to gym, and i'm one of the beautiful people ! well, at least i was
02:21 MrCurious well, i was hoping to poke thebear before passing out, but it seems the bear will not be poked...
02:24 MrCurious now i know what that comercial reminds me of...
02:24 MrCurious that SNL skit... "Lowered expectations" dating service
04:03 theBear wtf ? there wasn't one gay man at my gym, and only one gay woman, and i was young, i hadn't kissed enough people to know if i was gay yet
04:03 theBear and damn it's cold
04:04 theBear tho technically, gyms are for people that wanna be fitter
04:04 theBear they're only all weights in the movies
06:22 GuShh_ theBear: you need to kiss people to know if you're gay? what the hell
06:23 theBear i'm disturbed in the head, i don't know if i like people till i kiss themn
06:23 GuShh_ I've heard about a law regarding SHEMALE bathrooms on gyms
06:23 GuShh_ Not sure where it all ended.
06:24 GuShh_ It's not our fault if they can't decide which bathroom or dressing room to go.
06:24 GuShh_ why should we spend money on a separate room
06:24 theBear i've never seen a shemale bathroom anywhere
06:24 GuShh_ they should spend money fixing their brain instead
06:24 Shh_ shakes
06:24 GuShh_ It's all good, they can do whatever they please with their arse... but when they start to bother ME either directly or indirectly, it all goes down hill.
06:24 theBear shemales brains are fine, well, sometimes, it's their bodies that are confused... they aint like transvestites
06:25 GuShh_ Because I don't bother them with my straightness why should they bother me with their gayness.
06:25 GuShh_ theBear: it's not a confusion it's just a chemical imbalance
06:25 GuShh_ further enhanced by all the shit they ingest to "feel more like it"
06:25 GuShh_ they should quit playing victims nobody forces them to it
06:25 theBear that's like saying lsd isn't a confusion it's just a chemical imbalance
06:26 GuShh_ everything is
06:26 GuShh_ however you choose to take lsd
06:26 theBear most of them don't take no pills, and most of them make a point of not letting people know, unless they're like strippers or something
06:26 GuShh_ they take injections directly heh
06:26 theBear heh, you saved it with a joke
06:26 GuShh_ theBear: I don't care about them, like I said it becomes a problem when they ask for their own bathroom
06:27 GuShh_ or like they wanted to get legally married, which was approved
06:27 GuShh_ now they want to get legally divorced
06:27 theBear oh, you didn't say THEY asked for them, i figured it was everyone else complaining
06:27 GuShh_ mother fckrs
06:27 GuShh_ they'll always keep on busting everyone's balls with their stupidity
06:27 theBear wtf? if they can get married they should be able to divorce
06:27 GuShh_ no they weren't
06:27 GuShh_ those were separate laws!
06:27 Shh_ facep
06:27 GuShh_ they fought for them as much as they fought for when they wanted to get married
06:27 GuShh_ unbelivable
06:28 GuShh_ theBear: So it's all good until they bust everyone's balls, that's how I see it
06:28 theBear you sound bitter, have you got unresolved issues with a shemale in your past ?
06:28 GuShh_ not really
06:28 GuShh_ I never met one
06:29 GuShh_ knowingly?
06:29 GuShh_ Hahaha
06:29 theBear hehe
06:29 GuShh_ No, never. doesn't matter though I told you it's ok as long as they don't impose on me or others
06:30 GuShh_ A junkie is also OK until he tries to stick a needle in your arm, possibly an empty used needle but a problem nontheless at that point.
06:30 theBear meh, i find sexuality and gender sexy, i find it hard to be bothered by any aspect... not like religious people, maybe you should use that as your analogy for whatever you trying to tell me
06:30 GuShh_ oh religion alert
06:30 GuShh_ I'm not religious
06:30 GuShh_ whatsoever
06:30 GuShh_ I can't quite remember when was the last time I went to a church but I can remember I was doing it for someone else
06:31 theBear pretty sure i aren't too, but i'm kinda fond of people that aren't men or women as a general rule... not so much men that dress like women and wear makeup like mrs slocumb
06:31 GuShh_ too bad, I like them from an architectural point of view
06:31 GuShh_ talking about churches still
06:31 theBear i don't think i can take anything with blue eye makeup seriously
06:32 Shh_ facepalms a
06:32 theBear oh :)
06:32 GuShh_ architectural + shemale = load bearing column
06:32 theBear a good dude up the front can make religion not so bad, a lot of it is just kinda morals and positive thinking... specially non christian
06:33 GuShh_ the new pope is kind of cool, not saying that 'cos he's from around here though
06:33 GuShh_ just because he doesn't give a crap about their rules, not so much at least
06:33 theBear we got another new one ? damn, i can't keep up
06:33 GuShh_ dunno, last new one
06:33 theBear i'm not even sure who runs this country, and i got no idea who runs the state
06:33 GuShh_ possibly getting older as we speak
06:33 GuShh_ aren't we all
06:33 Shh_ f
06:33 GuShh_ GET OFF MY LAWN
06:33 theBear yeah, i'm pretty sure he's getting older
06:34 GuShh_ I don't know who runs Australia either, don't worry
06:34 GuShh_ You've got a prime minister or something silly like it?
06:34 GuShh_ Hopefully not a woman
06:34 theBear i dunno, i lost interest after hawkey
06:34 GuShh_ When women get in power it's all lost. Other women will want to be like her and vote her just because she's a woman
06:35 GuShh_ it pisses me off
06:35 theBear his wife just died last week :(
06:35 GuShh_ that's like voting hitler 'cos he's a man.
06:35 theBear meh, i don't vote, so noone can blame me
06:35 GuShh_ and I'm a man, so 1+1
06:35 theBear and yes, that is illegal
06:35 GuShh_ you don't
06:35 GuShh_ isn't it mandatory
06:35 GuShh_ I managed to not vote for many years
06:35 GuShh_ by not renewing my ID
06:35 GuShh_ PRO TIP right there
06:36 GuShh_ it just means you can't do much legal wise until you do renew it.
06:36 theBear yeah, that's not enough, they follow you all over the country
06:36 GuShh_ they'll follow me now though if I don't vote
06:36 GuShh_ I'm not sure how much jail time we're talking these days for not voting
06:36 GuShh_ months, not sure it's years
06:36 theBear tho i did eventually get taken offa fter maybe 10 years, see, i'm smart enough to check my old mailboxes/addresseswhen noone is looking, and they gotta send a letter SOMEWHERE when they REALLY lose you
06:36 GuShh_ the whole system is flawed anyway
06:36 theBear seems the tax dept aren't worried about me either, which is surprising
06:37 GuShh_ a rapist can get out of jail in less than half his time and rape again
06:37 GuShh_ everyone knows it happens, nobody does anything about it
06:37 GuShh_ tax dept... they're dipshits over here
06:37 GuShh_ here's one of the things they'll do, if you haven't paid your taxes and you are on vacation, they'll follow your paper trail and stop you right there on the beach.
06:38 GuShh_ it's hilarious and also sad at the same time.
06:38 theBear meh, you sound bitter, and everyone else keeps asking me about transistors and stuff... i'm gonna watch some more of this movie see if it any good
06:38 GuShh_ on one hand these are mostly "big fish" avoiding to pay loads in taxes, but they still spend lots on vacation so it's OK I think they should bust their balls a bit
06:38 GuShh_ theBear: reality is bitter
06:39 theBear yep, that's why i watch cartoons, and drink, and do everything i can to shorten my life
06:39 GuShh_ I'm just bitter because my brother is a friggin liar who ended up 3 days in a hospital and manages to make up the story that he "can't remember what happened" but he still managed to drive himself there, so really a load of bullshit.
06:39 GuShh_ and he's the oldest one
06:40 GuShh_ I should be the immature one!
06:42 RyanS Some people seem to hand scrape mills & lathes for fun. for fun!
06:42 RyanS Is it for bragging rights
06:42 RyanS Or masochism
06:43 GuShh_ RyanS: hand scrape?
06:43 GuShh_ you mean to clean them after cutting
06:43 GuShh_ there are places where a brush is better than compressed air
06:44 GuShh_ if you were talking about restoration, that's up to them why would you care!
06:44 GuShh_ typically anyone who owns those two things will be both masochist and a bragging cnt
06:44 RyanS no scraping machines ib
06:45 RyanS n
06:45 GuShh_ the hell are you talking about!
06:45 Shh_ puts theBear in front of R
06:45 RyanS I couldn't care less, its probably something I would do if I could
06:46 RyanS Just wondering seems very time consuming
06:46 GuShh_ RyanS: someone showed me this video yesterday, I think it somehow suits your situation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbdxDDM2Kco
06:46 GuShh_ everything about mills and lathes is time consuming
06:46 GuShh_ the set up, the cutting, the measuring, the clean up
06:47 GuShh_ that's why good machinists get paid a small fortune an hour
06:47 GuShh_ not to mention taking care of each tool
06:47 GuShh_ keeping them sharp
06:47 GuShh_ replacing bits
06:47 GuShh_ etc
06:47 GuShh_ and of course their cost
06:48 RyanS "I've got an endmill to put in you"
06:48 GuShh_ lawl
06:48 GuShh_ I was looking at the milling machines they sell over here...
06:49 RyanS And why would you want to start a nuclear war at a gay bar
06:49 GuShh_ maximum RPM on them were 2850 at best, some were even slower
06:49 GuShh_ I asked the sales rep what they were for since usually you're talking about 10k and up, he didn't know
06:49 GuShh_ Asked another one, said "that's standard speed, maybe you are confused with CNC"
06:49 GuShh_ RyanS: maybe nuclear war means something else at a gay bar
06:49 GuShh_ I'll never know
06:51 GuShh_ of course as a homophobic bigot you'd want to wipe them out, so it makes sense.
06:51 GuShh_ they'd even pretend to be gay just to get the nukes in the gay bar!
06:52 RyanS What can't you do with a limit of 2500rpm . not use tiny endmills
06:53 RyanS Speaking of homophobia there is an Argentinian pope
06:58 GuShh_ RyanS: and?
06:59 GuShh_ I don't think there's a lot of homophobia here
06:59 GuShh_ gay people can get married and adopt
06:59 GuShh_ they can even smoke pot while doing that.
06:59 Shh_ sh
06:59 RyanS I was more referring to the church
06:59 GuShh_ oh yeah bunch of kid rapist bigots
07:01 RyanS gay men marry gay penguins in the Falklands whilst smoking weed perhaps?
07:18 GuShh_ RyanS: there are penguins in the Falklands?
07:18 GuShh_ also by current law if you can't do that in the UK then you can't do it in the Falklands either.
07:18 GuShh_ they like to pretend they're brits or something over there, it's hilarious
07:19 RyanS idk I thought they had penguins
07:22 GuShh_ no idea
07:25 theBear hehe, nuclear war at a gay bar gay bar gay bar, i got something to put in you....
07:26 theBear that's sillier than a sponge with square pants, i love it
07:26 GuShh_ lol
07:27 theBear i like the venetian snares remix... also they got one originally by some dude(?) called nelly... i dunno who he is, but they make him sound catchy
07:27 RyanS Not even a sea sponge ... a dish sponge!
07:27 theBear he's friends with a sea sponge
07:28 theBear i'm more impressed by how he can fry and flip burgers :)
07:29 RyanS And does he have something to put in the sea sponge ?
07:32 GuShh_ What can you do with iPage? "I blog and share what I love" (cocaine riddled blonde) .... ok?, let me watch the video now asshole.
07:33 GuShh_ god daaaaaamn.
07:45 GuShh_ theBear: small magnet and hall effect switch for measuring RPM on the lathe sounds about right? or should I go optical for some reason?
07:45 GuShh_ I think dust could be a problem with an optical solution
07:45 dunz0r If it's a lathe for metal, there might be problems
07:45 theBear yeah, sounds right, maybe a counterweight depending on size/bearings/etc
07:46 GuShh_ I want to see if I can measure it fast enough to detect a sudden drop in RPM (suggesting a catch or other problem) so I can turn the power off automatically.
07:46 GuShh_ hmm the magnet is very small
07:46 GuShh_ dunz0r: wood, but speak up
07:46 theBear overcurrent is a good hint for a problem
07:46 GuShh_ a 10 gram or smaller magnet can't possibly be a problem for any lathe
07:46 theBear you'd hope not
07:46 GuShh_ maybe a watch maker's lathe
07:46 dunz0r GuShh_: Metal filings migh get magnitised and disturb the hall sensor, but I'm just guessing.
07:46 theBear and you only want a little 1/2g neo
07:46 GuShh_ you are fooling yourself if you think chinese lathes have any sort of precision
07:47 GuShh_ dunz0r: that's an interesting thought
07:47 theBear mmmm, they'd have to be pretty magnetised
07:47 GuShh_ theBear: let me weigh it!
07:47 GuShh_ that's what the cool tiny digital scales are for
07:47 GuShh_ I love 'em
07:47 theBear and you can tune it close and go for a 'low sensitivity'
07:47 GuShh_ don't own a metal cutting lathe as of yet.
07:47 GuShh_ the mini ones are cool, but they cost as much as the bigger ones at least chinese ones
07:48 GuShh_ I would want to try them first....
07:48 GuShh_ can't find a suitable used lathe anywhere, they're all ruined
07:48 GuShh_ the ones in good shape are of course not for sale
07:49 GuShh_ and I don't mean "rust, chipped paint" ruined, ruined as in missing half the parts, the other half is broken and it doesn't even have a motor kind of ruined, heh
07:50 theBear no motor isn't uncommon for belt driven, generally it isn't a part of the actual lathe on older and/or wood lathes
07:51 GuShh_ OK, found a 1 gram neo magnet
07:51 GuShh_ theBear: when you add up the fact that it may need new bushings or bearings and all the missing parts
07:51 GuShh_ specially tool posts and that
07:51 GuShh_ it's not cheap, at all
07:52 GuShh_ if the ways have play there's not much you can do
07:52 GuShh_ that's the whole point on a lathe, little play everywhere.
07:52 GuShh_ hmm if only I had a smaller magnet, this one is rectangular, but I think I can manage.
07:53 GuShh_ I can see how a properly made optical encoder type of sensor would be better in that regard
07:53 GuShh_ but it can also be fooled by dust and shavings
07:53 GuShh_ fooled and fouled !
07:53 GuShh_ the primary reason I want this is to add a strobe output
07:53 GuShh_ being able to have a rpm readout is just a wanky extra feature.
07:54 GuShh_ theBear: any ideas on adding a delay or advance on the strobe signal?
07:54 GuShh_ this sounds too much like ignition timing
07:54 GuShh_ actually it's the same now that I think about it
07:59 theBear oh wow, spaghetti and butter pretty good when yer hungry
07:59 theBear strobe signal ? huh ?
07:59 theBear and it is pretty much the same, but why ?
08:00 theBear oh, for visualness
08:00 theBear kinda dangerous, tho i spose you'll know it's spinnin
08:01 theBear maybe have a deadman footswitch or something for the strobve
08:01 theBear and if you use a micro for rpm that's a easy way to advance/delay, doesn't matter which way you go
08:14 GuShh_ theBear: heh yeah it can be dangerous but also very helpful and well, annoying too.
08:14 GuShh_ it's hard to forget it's spinning when you've got a big light strobing all over the place though
08:15 theBear yeah, til yer get tired, tho noise helps
08:15 GuShh_ it may look static but the strobing light being on is a pretty good hint
08:15 theBear other people might not be so smart tho
08:15 GuShh_ that too, you'll know it's running because of the noise
08:15 GuShh_ unless you wear ear protection and maybe even headphones underneath
08:16 GuShh_ kind of dangerous to get distracted around any type of lathe though
08:16 GuShh_ it's a good thing I don't wear ties
08:16 Shh_ g
08:16 theBear yeah, but it happens
08:16 theBear heh
08:17 GuShh_ yrrrp riiiip splat.
08:30 theBear dear sweet zombie jesus, i'm not sure there's anything i dislike more than being sober
08:45 GuShh_ theBear: zombie baby jesus!
08:46 GuShh_ alright getting 11.13Hz on the slowest setting, that's 667.8 RPM
08:46 GuShh_ way too fast for big pieces hence why I want a VFD
08:47 GuShh_ there's very little space in there, right now I got it all taped up externally, I do know they make a newer version with a 16x2 display on top, so there has to be enough space for what I want to do!
08:48 GuShh_ I basically plan to break-out the strobe output and rpm output with BNCs
20:19 keyzs http://youtu.be/LHrLGJFwe3E
20:25 GuShh_ keyzs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU
20:26 GuShh_ theBear: this "86 Original" from holland is awesome! you should try it
20:36 keyzs GuShh_, http://youtu.be/vEYN18d7gHg
21:47 MrCurious oh bot. Turky is popping...
22:01 robziw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EV-57kzlcc&feature=player_embedded#!
22:03 MrCurious love the goal block, followed up by sneak goal as it gets up
22:09 robziw they really made the walking conservative with these NAOs
22:09 robziw I assume they did this to avoid falling all the time
22:17 MrCurious wonder if they have gyro stabilization
22:17 MrCurious an actual spinning mass
22:17 MrCurious or a shiftable counterweight
22:18 MrCurious or would that be too 1960...
22:23 robziw i dont like the plastic design of the NAOs
22:23 robziw the flaired on their arms and legs do not facilitate good movement
22:24 MrCurious have you wrote them a letter
22:24 MrCurious or started a company to re-shell nao's?
22:26 robziw -__-
22:26 robziw i guess I could email them
22:26 robziw but they are french
22:39 MrCurious french!
22:39 MrCurious dont waste your time!
22:39 MrCurious lol
23:16 MrCurious and yet another usb laptop cam is wired to a usb plug for robots