#robotics Logs

Mar 02 2013

02:06 GargantuaSauce i appear to be still breathing
02:08 ocei3ko How's life?
02:08 ocei3ko Trying to get used to irssi
02:09 GargantuaSauce soldering away, powered by death metal and caffeine
02:09 ocei3ko Nice
02:09 ocei3ko What are you working on?
02:10 GargantuaSauce a handheld controller
02:10 GargantuaSauce or part of one at least...a perfboard with a pair of xbox joysticks and an adc on it
02:13 ocei3ko Ah I see
02:13 ocei3ko I will be back in a bit
02:14 GargantuaSauce i should just be using a usb joystick or gamepad but really cba to write or adapt usb host drivers
03:18 Hukka ocei3ko: You might not want to get used to irssi
03:18 Hukka I have, so the effort to move on to quassel or weechat is too great
03:19 GargantuaSauce the gui ones are all kind of terrible
03:21 theBear xchat is awesome
03:24 ocei3ko Hukka: What's wrong with irssi?
03:30 Hukka ocei3ko: Dead development, and making new functionality is pretty hard compared to the others
03:30 Hukka For example integrated xmmp support would be nice, and better filtering
04:13 GargantuaSauce hahahah these xbox joysticks are so shitty
04:13 GargantuaSauce awesome
04:58 ocei3ko Hmm
04:58 ocei3ko What other clients would you suggest?
04:58 ocei3ko Xchat is boss, but meh
06:43 Hukka Like I said, quassel or weechat
06:47 Jak_o_Shadows pidgin
06:52 Hukka And by leaving immediately after, he proved the "virtues" of running a local client
07:03 ocei3ko Me?
07:03 ocei3ko Think I'll just stick with xchat
07:12 Hukka I meant Jak and pidgin
07:12 Hukka As pidgin has no support for having a stable process on a 24/7 server, that the local client only connects to. I believe this is what quassel does
07:12 Hukka While weechat is more like irssi in that it's not graphical at all, and the local client is just ssh
07:23 ocei3ko What editors are used around here?
08:04 Hukka vim
08:45 Tom_itx gedit
08:58 botnut is away: hiberna
10:12 jennie Hello, I want to run HDD motor without HDD board, how to make it spin ?
10:16 theBear hello :)
10:16 GuShH_Lap jennie: given your current knowledge, you can't
10:16 GuShH_Lap do you even know what a phase is
10:16 theBear everyone, jennie is nice, be nice to her
10:17 theBear you know i don't like most people, so that means something :)
10:17 GuShH_Lap but most people in here are not most people
10:17 GuShH_Lap or are they
10:19 GuShH_Lap theBear: I consumed 700 less kwh a month ago, compared to the previous month (1900kwh vs 1200kwh)... but on the 1200kwh bill I paid 120 ARs.... on the 1900kwh one I paid 340.... and the new one, well it's over 500 and the consumption is even less (don't have it here to double check)
10:19 GuShH_Lap someone should get a rifle and shoot our c*** president.
10:20 theBear trust me, they aren't, most people are in that 'other channel'
10:20 GuShH_Lap in the ugly face.
10:20 GuShH_Lap errr
10:20 theBear 'ang on, don't you live in chilli land or somewhere ?
10:20 GuShH_Lap I meant to say 1900 I paid 120
10:20 theBear like che guevera
10:20 GuShH_Lap and for 1200 I paid 340
10:20 theBear sweet jesus ! you use more power than me
10:20 GuShH_Lap it's like the kwh was 0.077 then and suddenly one month later it went to 0.33
10:21 GuShH_Lap no, I've been using less power.... but paying more
10:21 GuShH_Lap it's pissing me off
10:21 GuShH_Lap there haven't been any desktops turned on this month, only a laptop and some lights.... plus the common stuff
10:21 theBear i dunno what a ar is, but we up to .25c a kwh, and it sucks balls
10:21 GuShH_Lap so surely I did 1000kwh
10:21 GuShH_Lap I'm not sure what an AR is either
10:22 GuShH_Lap since they say it's one thing but in the streets it's another
10:22 jennie well GuShH_Lap I can make it spin by my hand too with my current knowledge BYE
10:22 GuShH_Lap "oficially" 5 ARs is 1 USD
10:22 GuShH_Lap Oh I want to murder people just by thinking about it.
10:22 GuShH_Lap on the street... it's more like 8 ARs is 1 USD
10:22 GuShH_Lap which makes me even more furious
10:23 GuShH_Lap Also rage quit from jennie was uncalled for. Designing a proper brushless motor driver is no simple feat.
10:24 Tom_itx you could have explained that
10:24 GuShH_Lap Since it's 3 phased AC it requires certain knowledge someone asking about it clearly doesn't know.
10:24 GuShH_Lap Tom_itx: I happen to have suffered through jennies' past questions, or trolling sessions.
10:25 GuShH_Lap Including a makeshift neutral for her mains power, I believe it was jennie.
10:25 Tom_itx we suffer thru your rants too
10:26 theBear dude ! you scared of jennie !
10:26 GuShH_Lap I'd like to think your neutral passive agressive posture is worse than the two combined at times.
10:26 theBear no wonder she insists on only asking questions to me in private !
10:26 GuShH_Lap theBear: is it the same jennie I'm thinking of?
10:26 theBear i don't think so
10:26 Tom_itx theBear, secret crush?
10:27 GuShH_Lap theBear: pakistani or something like that
10:27 theBear nah, she way too far away, just less annoying than most people
10:27 GuShH_Lap india...
10:27 GuShH_Lap Don't challenge my memory!
10:27 theBear don't ask mine to work !
10:27 GuShH_Lap I think she had issues with a cellphone charger, her mains (neutral severed by truck)
10:27 GuShH_Lap what else...
10:27 Tom_itx is it already challenged?
10:27 GuShH_Lap something about fluorescent fixtures
10:28 theBear i pretty sure you got the wrong one... hmmm.. maybe something about a fluro driver, i dunno, my short term is shot
10:28 theBear Tom_itx, these pills man, these fuckarsed damned pills !
10:28 GuShH_Lap I think this is long term memory
10:28 GuShH_Lap ask her.
10:28 theBear you fucking ask her
10:28 GuShH_Lap why?
10:28 theBear she doesn't question me
10:28 theBear i don't question her
10:29 theBear she said where she at, i'm never gonna be near there, it's not an issue
10:29 ShH_Lap fr
10:29 GuShH_Lap This has nothing to do with your sexual needs!
10:29 theBear i know ! but do you ?
10:29 GuShH_Lap I was just recalling some of her previous "issues"
10:29 GuShH_Lap total recall biatch.
10:29 theBear she been talking to me since she left the big channel for similar reasons to you, i sympathise
10:30 GuShH_Lap Did you watch the remake?
10:30 theBear i'm watching harlem shakes for the first tiem ever, i'm happy
10:30 GuShH_Lap I can be an arse at times, but we've got Tom_itx to point that out.
10:30 theBear oh, no, i dunno if i want to
10:30 GuShH_Lap It was OK. Wouldn't watch it again though.
10:30 theBear meh, you're alright, just don't question me today
10:30 GuShH_Lap Whereas the original, I've watched it way too many times
10:31 GuShH_Lap I'm downloading the goonies 1080p!
10:31 GuShH_Lap Now that's a good movie
10:31 ShH_Lap g
10:31 theBear i dunno the original, like i said, first time ever, and i watched about 100 different ones in a row, this is my kind of half-assed-humor
10:31 theBear ahd they kidna dance like me
10:31 theBear pfft ! the goonies was never in 1080p
10:31 GuShH_Lap they remastered it or some poop
10:31 GuShH_Lap lots of old titles coming out on 1080p... most look like crap
10:31 theBear you got a copy of err, scorchers from the 80's or early 90's tho ?
10:31 GuShH_Lap no
10:32 theBear they all do, it's just lowres upscaled to 1080
10:32 theBear apparently i gotta see it
10:32 GuShH_Lap if they still got the original film, they can always process it with the current technology to achieve a bit more resolution....
10:32 GuShH_Lap but they've been pushing it with most movies
10:32 theBear mnah mnah manh, 30mm aint got 1080 extractable
10:33 GuShH_Lap 30mm?
10:33 theBear 32mm ? film
10:33 GuShH_Lap I thought they shot higher sizes for cinema
10:34 theBear yhou know, that stuff you just mentioned
10:34 GuShH_Lap I used to know a lot about arri equipment
10:34 GuShH_Lap now I just forgot
10:34 theBear don't think so, i'm no doctor, but i'm also dangerously violenty today
10:34 GuShH_Lap pills?
10:34 theBear if someone knocked on the door right now, they wouldn't live thru t he night
10:34 GuShH_Lap between your pills and my bills, we should start a revolution. GET THE GUNS
10:35 theBear no, combination of being sober and not smoking 2 days before tonight, and being woken thismorning after the first time i got to sleep all week, yes, ALL FUCKING WEEK
10:35 GuShH_Lap in your case, GET THE WALKING STICKS
10:35 GuShH_Lap sober means not even a drop of beer?
10:35 GuShH_Lap or "haven't been drunk since"
10:36 theBear not even a drip
10:36 theBear and then there's the people i might have to literally cripple (you know, paraplegiase or similar) tomorrow for various indescretions, but i shouldn't talk about that here
10:36 GuShH_Lap OK so.... 35mm
10:36 ace4016 technically it means remaining sober for X amount of time
10:37 GuShH_Lap ace4016: but I usually mean to say "I haven't been drunk since"
10:37 ace4016 so if you won't stop being sober from one drink, it may still count
10:37 GuShH_Lap I can't get drunk with one drink
10:37 ace4016 also shows self control
10:37 ace4016 the main point of remaining sober is to show self control
10:37 GuShH_Lap I haven't been drunk in years now.
10:37 theBear i don't care what it means, i didn't sleep all week and after a few short hours today i was woken up by some asshole without any cigarettes or liquor and then i couldnt sleep again
10:37 GuShH_Lap But when I can I drink beer or wine, quit the scotch.
10:38 theBear self control my ass ! when i chose to be sober last year i was sober for a month, now is not that time !
10:38 GuShH_Lap I miss it, I was more productive with it.
10:39 theBear and i aint hospitalized anyone for several years, but if i gotta do it this weekend, so be it... garrr ! pfft ! time for a cartoon and a nap, prepare for the nastiness and blood on my hands
10:39 theBear gnight suckers, and if jennie ever comes back, be fucking nice to her, she might not know a lot of electronics, but she's no fool either !
10:40 e4016 rubs theBear's b
10:40 ace4016 woo saa
10:40 theBear and don't even try to imagine what i'd do if i had some idea about bedding her, you don't ever wanna come between theBear and sexy times !
10:40 theBear goos fraba ?
10:41 ace4016 a bear and sexy times...i've seen a hentai about that >_>
10:41 ace4016 there was some fighting, then roughness...if you know what i mean
10:41 theBear iie chigaiumasu ? estoy usando el monstro ? mon dieu ?!?!?!?!
10:41 theBear heh, i know what you mean, i had sexy times before <grin>
10:41 ace4016 no espeake espanol
10:41 theBear or french or nip ?
10:42 GuShH_Lap theBear: from what I could gather a good 35mm print is equivalent to 5400 x 3600 but in practical reality it's often half of that.
10:42 ace4016 nien!
10:42 theBear GuShH_Lap, specially 20 or 30 years later, but that corey feldman, that's one sexy man
10:42 GuShH_Lap you could go as high as you want... you'll just see grains thoug
10:42 theBear ich bin ein manaicas
10:43 theBear yeah, just like you shoot porn in native 1080 and all you see is skin imperfections ! pfft !
10:43 GuShH_Lap I don't like HD pr0n
10:43 GuShH_Lap it's distracting
10:43 GuShH_Lap Gets too real.
10:43 GuShH_Lap Takes the fun off it!
10:44 theBear shit just got REAL !
10:44 theBear gnight gentleman
10:44 ShH_Lap slams it on the
10:45 theBear lol, you, and kingkong, aint got shit on me
10:45 eBear uses it to break the desk in
10:45 theBear cya
10:46 GuShH_Lap http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6635695209_4b85d8a8ee_o.png
10:46 GuShH_Lap looks like crap, not real 1080p either
10:46 GuShH_Lap bye angry bear
10:47 theBear watch bikini bandits experience, you'll like it, or you suck balls !
10:47 GuShH_Lap don't know, still recovering from the last one
10:47 GuShH_Lap from dusk till dawn
10:48 GuShH_Lap god damn tarantino likes to mess with my mind every time
10:48 theBear trust me
10:48 GuShH_Lap I got that one on 1080p too!
10:48 GuShH_Lap doesn't look bad at all.
10:49 GuShH_Lap ok classic car, hot girl... will watch "Bikini Bandits" later
12:23 rue_shop2 Tom_itx,
12:23 rue_shop2 I found a place that does screen printing
12:24 rue_shop2 one of the interesting thigns was that they pre-prep the screens and leave them in a dark closet
12:24 rue_shop2 and their lightbox is just flourescent lamps
12:50 rue_shop2 well....
12:50 rue_shop2 we dont appear to have any robotics kids this morning
12:50 rue_shop2 regular called in yesterday and said he couldnt make it...
14:13 Hukka kids?
14:45 GargantuaSauce his underage tech-harem
14:49 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgGXQUeYNKw
14:49 rue_house I should make a dividing head for my lathe
15:06 Tom_itx i should make a rotary head for my mill
15:18 Aebleskiver I should make a boring head for my mill
15:19 GargantuaSauce I should make an entertaining head for my mill
15:31 dunz0r I should make a mill
15:38 Tom_itx i should make a bigger mill
15:46 Aebleskiver i should make a faster mill
15:46 Tom_itx i have a small one but could use a bigger mill
16:14 MrCurious why cant i locate a source for robotic joints
16:14 GargantuaSauce because robots prefer pipes
16:23 jennie hello
16:24 Aebleskiver Hey jennie
16:24 jennie hey Aebleskiver how are ouy ?
16:24 jennie you*
16:25 Aebleskiver Pretty good thanks and yourself?
16:25 jennie I am good, stuck at motor driver though :D
16:26 Aebleskiver Motor driver o.O
16:26 Aebleskiver what are you doing?
16:26 jennie I am trying to run HDD spindle 3 leg motor with LM293D
16:27 jennie can you tell me that upto how much volts these hard disk motor can survive ?
16:27 GargantuaSauce they are probably driven at 12
16:27 Aebleskiver Yeah
16:27 GargantuaSauce making your own brushless motor driver is not going to be easy
16:28 GargantuaSauce i'd suggest a hobby rc one
16:28 GargantuaSauce http://www.ebay.ca/itm/140923879162
16:29 jennie I have simple RC helicopter in junk , it may have that item you showed at ebay ?
16:29 GargantuaSauce if it's a cheap one it will probably have brushed motors
16:29 GargantuaSauce but take a look
16:30 ace4016 brushless motors can be cheap; it's the controllers that are usually pricey :P
16:30 jennie yes, correct
16:30 jennie but what about connecting PIC to LM293D and running that HDD motor ?
16:30 jennie of course writing code to PIC
16:31 GargantuaSauce do you fully understand the terms "pwm", "back EMF" and "closed loop control"?
16:31 jennie I understand back EMF and PWM only
16:31 GargantuaSauce then use a ready-made esc
16:33 jennie Cool, many thanks for that link
16:34 GargantuaSauce no problem, do look for another supplier if that one doesnt suit your needs in any way (it was just the cheapest result of a quick search)
16:34 GargantuaSauce what are you using the motor for?
16:34 jennie I will use it for http://ecofriend.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/old_hard_drive_products_pdc6c.jpg
16:47 Aebleskiver jennie: That's pretty cool
16:58 rue_house hahah
16:59 rue_house oh damn, I was supposed to get a greenstone!
17:01 rue_house ooo I wonder how many harddrives it would take to drive my truck!
17:44 Tom_itx aww
20:37 cuziamninja Hello!
20:38 cuziamninja Can someone help me identify some schematics?
20:40 Tom_itx maybe if you post them somebody might
20:40 cuziamninja http://ge.tt/7wqsLvZ/v/0
20:40 cuziamninja thanks.
20:42 GargantuaSauce what is there to identify
20:42 cuziamninja Its supposed to be an ASIC bitcoin miner.
20:42 cuziamninja I just need to know if it is.
20:43 Tom_itx no idea
20:43 GargantuaSauce looks like a dsp connected to some flash
20:44 cuziamninja Dsp?
20:44 GargantuaSauce a specialized microcontroller for signal processing
20:44 Tom_itx digital signal processor
20:45 cuziamninja So, could it be a bitcoin miner?
20:45 GargantuaSauce it could be anything you programmed it to be
20:45 cuziamninja So its legit?
20:45 cuziamninja Its supposed to run at 50 gh/s
20:47 GargantuaSauce i am a little skeptical of that
20:49 GargantuaSauce maybe a stupidly huge array of them....
20:53 cuziamninja apparently this is just the PCB
20:55 GargantuaSauce apparently that dsp can do about 100 MIPS
20:55 GargantuaSauce so that figure only makes sense if it can do 500 hashes with a single instruction :)
20:56 cuziamninja so how many hashes is it per mip?
20:59 GargantuaSauce i have no idea
21:31 bugsareatreat um
21:31 bugsareatreat anyone listening?
21:47 rue_shop2 hi
21:48 ace4016 hi
23:11 cuziamninja helloO!
23:12 cuziamninja Can someone help me identify some schematics?
23:24 cuziamninja Is anyone on?
23:38 cuziamninja Hey
23:48 theBear paste a link, we aint got time to say yes and wait for you
23:48 theBear heh, apparently he aint got time either