#robotics Logs

Dec 05 2012

01:20 rue_mohr you awake?
01:48 rue_bed YES
01:48 rue_bed yes even
03:52 Tom_itx rue_bed, adc controlled pwm: http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/tiny10/test/tn10_test.asm
03:52 Tom_itx not sure what he's doing there with 2
03:53 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/tiny10/test/tn10_pwm_test.asm
03:53 Tom_itx one you helped me with
09:03 rue_mohr so do you have a dev board and programmer for t10 on the shelf?
10:20 rizlah So quiet here
10:25 theBear sssshhh, people are trying to sleep, dude !
10:30 rizlah Need to start on electronics but have nothing to work with :(
12:28 Tom_itx rue_mohr, yup
14:09 KongfuPanda （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
14:18 exiff ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
14:18 exiff Let's leave the furniture out of this.
14:18 exiff Thanks
19:38 rue_mohr what did kongfupanda do to my coffeetable!?
19:46 Tom_itx rue_mohr
19:46 Tom_itx you can make the programmer
19:46 Tom_itx rue_mohr
19:46 Tom_itx you can make the board
19:46 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/tiny/tinyTPI1.jpg
19:47 rue_mohr hmm
19:47 rue_mohr have a 10 to 6 adapter?
19:47 Tom_itx it would get lost in a 10 pin header :)
19:47 Tom_itx yes
19:47 rue_mohr hmm
19:48 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/new_kits/USBTinyMkII_adapter_kit_desc.jpg
19:48 Tom_itx not 10 to 6
19:48 Tom_itx you could revise it i bet
19:49 rue_mohr hmmm
19:49 Tom_itx i might have an extra one of those t10 boards
19:49 rue_mohr I will think about all this
19:49 Tom_itx so you wouldn't have to etch one
19:49 rue_mohr do you hav a surplus of t10 boards?
19:50 Tom_itx i might have an extra one of those t10 boards
19:50 Tom_itx so you wouldn't have to etch one
19:50 Tom_itx i'd have to look
19:50 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/tiny/tinyboard1.jpg
19:50 Tom_itx seems i made at least 3
19:50 rue_mohr oo thats better
19:51 rue_mohr the dip adapter
19:51 Tom_itx i think i numbered em wrong
19:51 Tom_itx i forget
19:51 Tom_itx and
19:51 rue_mohr loks like it
19:51 Tom_itx you need a pullup on reset
19:51 Tom_itx which i just stuck across the traces
19:51 Tom_itx 0603
19:51 Tom_itx i fogot one
19:51 Tom_itx +r
19:52 Tom_itx or i could send you a programmer and you wouldn't have to worry with the 6pin issue
19:53 Tom_itx + both adapters and t10 board
19:53 rue_mohr I shall think on all this
19:53 Tom_itx i'll have to dig for the t10 board
19:53 rue_mohr your programmer has special provisions for doing t10 tho yes?
19:53 Tom_itx yes
19:54 Tom_itx just plug n go
19:54 rue_mohr throw me a price w/shipping for a programmer, cable and t10 board
19:54 Tom_itx whatever the programmer is
19:54 Tom_itx 23?
19:54 Tom_itx i dunno
19:54 Tom_itx and 5 to cross the border
19:55 Tom_itx and i'll toss in both adapters for ya
19:55 rue_mohr so 35ish?
19:55 Tom_itx 28
19:55 Tom_itx exact ish
19:55 rue_mohr haha
19:55 rue_mohr I know you put in more time than that assembling them
19:55 Tom_itx save any exchange rates
19:56 Tom_itx that's what they go for
19:56 Tom_itx unless you want a cute blue one
19:56 Tom_itx i like the open one myself
19:56 Tom_itx but i'm just that way
19:56 rue_mohr I'm willing to pay ya more than that cause I know what it takes to assemble them
19:56 Tom_itx i'm not worried about it
19:56 rue_mohr :) i know
19:56 Tom_itx send me a switch
19:57 rue_mohr what kinda switch?
19:57 Tom_itx the encoder
19:57 Tom_itx actually i'm not even concered about that right now
19:57 Tom_itx concerned*
19:57 rue_mohr the only ones I seem to have are brushedones from a mouse
19:58 rue_mohr you want it for the control pendent yea?
19:58 Tom_itx if i get back to that i'll get the LCD thing
19:58 Tom_itx with the encoder
19:58 Tom_itx what's all the sudden fuss over the t10?
19:58 Tom_itx that code i posted should work with little mods
19:59 rue_mohr a guy has a project wants to use a t10, if he follows thru I'll need one to test, but I also thought it would be neat to use one for hte winshield wiper controller I want to make for the truck
19:59 Tom_itx it's all self contained
19:59 Tom_itx clock etc
19:59 Tom_itx 12mhz
19:59 Tom_itx iirc
19:59 rue_mohr yep
20:00 Tom_itx 16bit clock
20:00 rue_mohr the t10 itself is sub $1 isn't it?
20:00 rue_mohr 10+
20:00 Tom_itx i forget
20:00 Tom_itx probably
20:01 rue_mohr 75c
20:01 rue_mohr /1
20:01 Tom_itx .69 us
20:01 rue_mohr http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ATTINY10-TSHR/ATTINY10-TSHRCT-ND/2136158
20:01 rue_mohr yea
20:02 Tom_itx .46/100
20:02 Tom_itx do you have any?
20:02 rue_mohr must be something fun to do with a sub $1 micro
20:02 rue_mohr no
20:02 Tom_itx oh
20:02 Tom_itx i'll let you solder it up
20:02 rue_mohr I dont even have any t45 yet
20:02 Tom_itx but i can send one
20:02 rue_mohr cool
20:03 Tom_itx i think i have a few
20:03 rue_mohr did you ever end up using any?
20:03 Tom_itx just to test the programmer mostly
20:03 rue_mohr ah
20:03 Tom_itx i played with that code on my site
20:03 Tom_itx the adc stuff
20:03 Tom_itx pwm
20:03 Tom_itx one i found is a little siren with blinking leds
20:04 rue_mohr :)
20:05 Tom_itx just remind me all this stuff ^^ cause i'll forget
20:05 rue_mohr hahah me too
20:05 Tom_itx i got blank 6 to 10 that probably could be reversed with a little thought
20:05 Tom_itx maybe solder the headers upside down
20:05 Tom_itx and reverse gender
20:11 Tom_itx oh i found one
20:11 Tom_itx i know where the other one went
20:11 Tom_itx to abcminiuser when we were testing the t10 code
20:11 Tom_itx but i've got those 6 dip adapters you can have
20:11 Tom_itx i never used em
20:12 Tom_itx wait.. i found one halfway put together here..
20:13 Tom_itx i was sure i sent him one but i've accounted for all 3
20:13 rue_mohr sounds good
20:15 Tom_itx i'll stick one on this board and see if it works
20:57 DagoRed Tom_itx: Finally re-installing avr studio to figure this programmer business
21:14 Tom_itx ok rue_mohr, one dev t10 working
21:37 rue_mohr shall I pp you money or order you dk parts
21:44 rue_mohr http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/C14D32N-A3/102-1924-ND/2039184
21:46 e_mohr knocks on
21:46 e_mohr knocks on Tom_
21:49 rue_mohr you need 2 dont you?
22:18 Tom_itx those are too much
22:18 Tom_itx there are much cheaper ones
22:19 rue_mohr not that i see
22:19 Tom_itx one tick
22:20 Tom_itx http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/EC11E15244B2/?qs=%2fha2pyFadugMG2RDp45gzKy3E%252bJw2bg9wyx%252blVW1GEpKn%2fqxa66ihw%3d%3d
22:20 Tom_itx that's what they use
22:20 Tom_itx but i'm probably just gonna get the display
22:21 Tom_itx dk don't have those
22:21 Tom_itx http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/4/48/Panel_schematic.pdf
22:22 Tom_itx http://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_1.3/1.4_GADGETS3D_Shield_with_Panel#Design_Files
22:23 Tom_itx and it's got push button as well
22:24 rue_mohr where the hell is the datasheet?
22:24 Tom_itx for what?
22:25 Tom_itx i just went off their schematic
22:25 rue_mohr http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/EC11E15244B2/?qs=/ha2pyFadugMG2RDp45gzKy3E%252bJw2bg9wyx%252blVW1GEpKn/qxa66ihw==
22:25 Tom_itx it's not something i'm in a rush to do. it was more just something to do and i've got other stuff to do as well
22:26 Tom_itx i'd say just pp what you want and i'll send you some stuff
22:27 rue_mohr ok, I think I ahve your pp email
22:27 Tom_itx just use the order thing
22:27 e_mohr plays with his IR leds/transistors from c
22:28 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/commerce/commerce_index.php
22:29 rue_mohr got any of the boxed ones avail?
22:29 Tom_itx umm
22:30 Tom_itx yeah
22:30 rue_mohr okok
22:30 Tom_itx a handfull
22:30 rue_mohr that dosn't work, its fixed price
22:30 Tom_itx it's fine
22:30 rue_mohr Ill just pp you money
22:30 Tom_itx this stuff is just sitting here
22:31 Tom_itx but then i won't know what to send
22:31 rue_mohr I';ll write it as a comment
22:32 Tom_itx do you want a blue one?
22:32 rue_mohr sure
22:35 rue_mohr done
22:35 rue_mohr you have mail
22:35 Tom_itx i'll check it tomorrow
22:36 rue_mohr ok
22:36 Tom_itx one went to Toronto on the 27th and arrived today
22:36 Tom_itx that's not bad for Ca
22:37 Tom_itx that's on the other side isn't it?
22:37 rue_mohr I got a a huge pile of ir leds and transistor from china, I'm set :)
22:37 rue_mohr yea
22:37 rue_mohr thats the ass end of canada
22:38 Tom_itx want a spare 6pin end?
22:39 rue_mohr spare?
22:39 rue_mohr na
22:39 Tom_itx in case you wanna make an adapter
22:39 Tom_itx i'll send a blank 6 to 10 too so you can try reversing it
22:39 rue_mohr our priminister is like a reincarnation of steve jobs
22:39 rue_mohr ok
22:39 Tom_itx pretty sure i got some still
22:40 rue_mohr :)
22:40 Tom_itx i got a long day tomorrow so i may not get it out til friday
22:40 rue_mohr I'm waiting 22 days+ for everything from china, it all flies right by
22:54 Tom_itx still lower rd?
23:00 rue_mohr yes
23:01 Tom_itx i'll send you a customs # shortly
23:03 rue_mohr whats that
23:03 rue_mohr "gift" they never check, there are 5000000 gifts crossing the border right now
23:04 Tom_itx i hope these pins don't get bent
23:07 Tom_itx ok, t10, 6 to 10, breadboard adapter, blank 6 to 10, blue box... what else?
23:08 rue_mohr jab it into a foam peanut
23:09 Tom_itx bubble wrap
23:09 rue_mohr nothing from china has been damaged yet
23:09 Tom_itx anything else?
23:10 rue_mohr you asked me if I wanted somehting a while ago
23:11 rue_mohr I said I didn't really need them and you said if I ever do you have them
23:11 rue_mohr or maybe thats a conversation we have alot
23:11 rue_mohr ah ribbon cable
23:11 rue_mohr no, I cant think of anything else
23:11 jadew \o/ Tom_itx is sending gifts around the world
23:11 jadew sign me up
23:12 rue_mohr no, just nextdoor
23:12 rue_mohr I'm just a bit northwest of him
23:13 Tom_itx you need 10 pin ribbon?
23:13 rue_mohr 3 would be nice
23:13 rue_mohr I have a pile of ribbon now tho
23:13 rue_mohr mostly grey :(
23:13 rue_mohr esp since floppy drives are obsolete
23:14 rue_mohr and ultrawide scsi
23:14 Tom_itx 3 what?
23:14 Tom_itx i got 4cond
23:14 Tom_itx cutoff
23:14 rue_mohr for those baords I made, and all ther accessories, I have 3 cond jumper cables
23:14 Tom_itx gotta fit in the envelope though
23:14 rue_mohr iirc I stripped 1c off what you have me
23:15 rue_mohr an extra t10 chip? I cant think of anything
23:16 rue_mohr not long after my $1 items started arriving I ran out of things I dont have
23:17 Tom_itx i'll tape it to the bottom of something. it's tiny
23:17 rue_mohr :)
23:18 Tom_itx ok that's it. envelope is sealed
23:18 rue_mohr :)
23:18 Tom_itx email sent
23:18 rue_mohr it fit in the email! sweeet!
23:19 Tom_itx it got stuck in the wire
23:19 Tom_itx that's not a tracking number
23:23 rue_mohr heh
23:23 rue_mohr well I'm gonna head to bed early, I'm drained
23:29 Tom_itx me too gnite