#robotics Logs

Nov 11 2012

12:47 home rue_mohr: :D not sure
12:47 home you tell me
12:48 rue_mohr I did, you will prolly find out by tommorow
12:58 Skwint and I will probably find out yesterday, but I don't know for sure yet
13:06 rue_mohr hmm I wonder if it works like that
13:07 rue_mohr now I dont know when or even if you will ever hear it
13:07 rue_mohr maybe it wont be in the rang of your lifetime
13:07 rue_mohr I didn't think the variation might be that dense
13:19 Skwint maybe you'll have found out in time and won't need to have worried?
13:52 rue_mohr heh, 'words lost in time'
13:52 rue_mohr the variation seems to have normalized, I will possibly never know
14:22 fckng_stupid use temporal flux events to move charged batteries forward, in this way a charged battery will never run out of power, altho in each timeline it will and will get replaced by another battery brought acoss from another timeline before it's discharged there
14:23 fckng_stupid making a battery in one timeline = making one in all timelines
14:27 fckng_stupid HomeDepot wants more for ONE 10awg 50ft cord than i paid for 50ft of STO 10-3 plus 75ft SO 12-3 plus an armload of multicolored 30awg-22awg hookup wires
14:28 fckng_stupid in fact, the want 4x as much for their 100ft 12-3 SO cord as i paid for my pile of wire
14:29 fckng_stupid tip: their 100ft 14-3 orange extension cord is cheaper than their 18-2 or 18-3 black SJ cord
14:30 fckng_stupid i cut the ends off 100ft 14-3 to run 75ft for 0.75amp Shurpump , cheaper than running any othre wire in the 1/2 pvc conduit
15:46 dumbass marshmellows
15:47 Tom_itx ping pong balls
16:28 rue_mohr arg, now ya tell me
16:28 rue_mohr didn't think of that
16:29 rue_mohr kat, I find the pricing of extension coards and power bars quite odd
16:33 nerio Our 1856 Erard grand piano just returned from restoration.
16:34 nerio It took restorers nearly 12 months to complete the work.
21:24 dumbass marshmellows
22:31 rue_mohr so the people sold the house and moved to somwehre else
22:32 dumbass instead of converting back to cheaper energy sources?
22:32 Tom_itx warmer climate?
22:32 dumbass wierd humans
22:32 dumbass warmer climate = air cooling needed
22:32 Jak_o_Shadows yeah, move somwhere warmer.
22:33 dumbass eat marshmellows
22:34 Tom_itx take your savings and have a summer and winter home
22:49 rue_mohr the next person to buy the house was a maker
22:49 rue_mohr when winter came he noticed how much the gas bill was and said "SCREW THIS!"
22:50 rue_mohr the maker went up and down the house, top to bottom analizing everything
22:50 rue_mohr the maker said "THESE DUCTS ARE SCREWED" and promptly replaced them
22:51 rue_mohr the maker tried again to heat the house with the gas, and when he saw the bill he said "SCREW THIS!"
22:51 rue_mohr the maker analized the house from top to bottom and found all the window frames leaked horribly
22:53 rue_mohr the maker prompty reinstalled all the windows
22:53 rue_mohr the maker tried again to heat the house with the gas, and when he saw the bill he said "SCREW THIS!"
22:54 rue_mohr the maker analized the house from top to bottom and found the insulation in the floors and attic were really pathetic
22:54 rue_mohr the maker promptly insulated the attic and floor with all the insulation he could find
22:54 rue_mohr the maker tried again to heat the house with the gas, and when he saw the bill he said "SCREW THIS!"
22:55 rue_mohr the maker analized the house from top to bottom and found the seals around the doors were all leaking
22:55 rue_mohr the maker promptly changed all the gaskets around the doors
22:55 rue_mohr the maker tried again to heat the house with the gas, and when he saw the bill he said "SCREW THIS!"
22:56 rue_mohr the maker analized the house from top to bottom and found the insulation in the walls was really pathetic
22:56 rue_mohr the maker said "SCREW THIS!"
22:57 rue_mohr the maker went out and gathered hot water tanks
22:57 rue_mohr the maker went out and gathered steel grates
22:57 rue_mohr the maker went out and gathered blowers, big blowers, small blowers
22:57 rue_mohr the maker went out and gathered computers
22:58 rue_mohr the maker went out and gathered relays and wire, connectors and brackets, hinges and screws!
22:59 rue_mohr for 24 hours a day, for 7 days the sounds of cutting and welding eminated from the yard of the maker
22:59 rue_mohr up went structures and towers
22:59 rue_mohr then it all stopped and the maker dissapeared for two days
23:00 rue_mohr after which a large truck was seen driving to the makers new house, it has logs and wood piled as high as the eye could see
23:01 rue_mohr it turned into the makers yard and stopped, as if to just die of exhaustion
23:01 rue_mohr early the next morning the town was thick with woodsmoke
23:02 rue_mohr and from the new chimneys of the makers yard it bellowed out, and amongst the noise could be heard a rage of cursing
23:03 rue_mohr and then, it all dissapated away
23:03 dumbass marshmellows
23:04 rue_mohr the sound of machines still came from the makers yard
23:04 dumbass marshmellows
23:04 rue_mohr but the stacks blew no smoke
23:04 dumbass marshmellows
23:04 dumbass marshmellows
23:05 Jak_o_Shadows well, that's what fire is good for.
23:05 dumbass marshmellows
23:05 rue_mohr in the night, a glow could be seen from the makers yard
23:05 dumbass marshmellows
23:05 Jak_o_Shadows HE WAS ROASTING MARSHMELLOWS
23:05 rue_mohr and in the curtins of the house livingroom, a shadow could be seen
23:05 dumbass marshmellows
23:05 rue_mohr the shadow of the maker
23:05 dumbass marshmellows
23:05 rue_mohr rocking back and forth in a chair
23:05 dumbass marshmellows
23:06 dumbass marshmellows
23:06 rue_mohr reading a book
23:06 dumbass marshmellows
23:06 dumbass reading marshmellows
23:06 rue_mohr enjoying his cheap wood heat
23:06 dumbass reading marshmellows
23:06 rue_mohr and to this day, in the town, the sound of the machines still rumbles on
23:07 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on
23:07 rue_mohr and on foggy days, the sound of swearing and cursing comes from that yard
23:07 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on
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23:08 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 rue_mohr but that gas company, they dont make money from that house anymore
23:09 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 rue_mohr that house, that is the makers house you see.
23:09 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:09 Jak_o_Shadows Tom_itx: Was that meant to do something?
23:10 dumbass yea, i wasn't +v anyhow
23:10 Tom_itx carry on then
23:10 dumbass yea, i wasn't +v anyhow
23:10 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:11 ace4016 Tom_itx, you could mute the channel, that would stop it all :D
23:11 ace4016 +m
23:11 Tom_itx it's ok
23:11 Tom_itx it makes her feel better
23:11 dumbass stop all what? people are supposed t talk abot marshmellows during stories
23:11 dumbass ask rue
23:11 rue_mohr mmm marshmellows
23:12 Jak_o_Shadows you know dumbass, in pidgin you could easily set it up to do this automatically :D
23:12 dumbass same in mirc
23:12 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:12 ace4016 dumbass, also, $5-$15 for a robot finger
23:12 ace4016 you left before i could reply
23:13 ace4016 although it's perhaps my fault for taking so long
23:13 dumbass who would you get to make the entire finger for $5 in labor?
23:13 rue_mohr chinapersons
23:13 dumbass then there is no point in me making them
23:13 ace4016 dumbass, dunno; i'd hope that this is being made enmasse
23:13 ace4016 that would decrease the cost
23:13 ace4016 per unit
23:14 dumbass yeas, but noone is making them en mass
23:14 ace4016 well, most robots are fairly unique in parts and such
23:14 Jak_o_Shadows Have you cadded it up at all?
23:14 ace4016 so most of their parts are expensive
23:14 dumbass but as soon as someone in usa starts making them en mass, china will do it and all the tools and stuff the usa person used will be underused again
23:15 ace4016 dumbass, although, if you have the model and parts, you could get the components of the finger produced by another company and assemble it yourself (or contract that out)
23:15 Tom_itx this channel has gone to shit anyway
23:15 dumbass ace, all fingers have joints and "bones" , it's not so unique
23:15 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:15 rue_mohr only cause nobody ever talks
23:15 rue_mohr we dont have anyone working on any projects
23:15 Tom_itx i got little left to say really
23:15 dumbass and if they talk, someone will discuss marshmellows over them
23:15 Jak_o_Shadows i'm going to be cadding it up a soon.
23:16 Jak_o_Shadows planning on making a little rover thing, carrying my laptop around and such
23:16 dumbass you don't WANT anyone to be working on projects
23:16 orlok 100 days
23:16 Jak_o_Shadows openCV and stuff.
23:16 dumbass discussing projects means more marshemellow talk
23:16 rue_mohr I'm also working/sleeping too much
23:16 orlok rue_mohr: do you have bare or finished concrete?
23:17 rue_mohr its finished
23:17 rue_mohr sealer
23:17 rue_mohr which I thin it mostly worn off
23:17 rue_mohr k
23:17 ace4016 dumbass, in the case of robot hands, that could be useful, assuming they're capable of some amazing things and there is a demand for them
23:17 orlok i'm thinking about using either some sort of hard wearing paint mixed with grit, or some specialised clear concrete finishing stuff
23:17 dumbass specialised clear concrete finishing stuff = clear 2part epoxy
23:18 rue_mohr I got really high puting it on
23:18 dumbass put it on the concrete, not on yourself
23:18 orlok dumbass: Thats what i initially thought, we already have some small containers for casting stuff
23:18 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:18 rue_mohr I think I put on 3 to 5 layers
23:19 orlok the local harware shops sell stuff called Crommelin
23:19 orlok rue_mohr: was it 2 part?
23:19 rue_mohr no
23:20 dumbass stain repellant
23:20 rue_mohr it looked awesome when I was done
23:20 orlok this is "Solvent Acrylic Resin"
23:20 orlok http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_sealer-crommelin-6l-concrete_P960102.aspx
23:20 orlok dumbass: the 2 part epoxy should be harder wearing, right?
23:22 rue_mohr http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/shop/dscn9930.jpg
23:22 rue_mohr there is the floor when it was just finished
23:25 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:27 e4016 strokes dum
23:27 mbass makes dumbass so
23:28 orlok i figure, if i'm going to seal the concrete
23:28 orlok i will have to do it as soon as we get the keys
23:29 orlok as its never going to have a clean floor afterwards
23:30 dumbass embedding the keys in the floor covering?
23:30 intranick dumbass: do those sounds sound like "obaammma.. obaamma"
23:30 intranick d?
23:30 dumbass no
23:30 orlok dumbass: No, but i cant do it without the keys to get in! Also, thats when we legally own the house.
23:30 orlok Or the bank does, anyway.
23:30 dumbass you bought the baby a house!?
23:31 ace4016 baby needs a new car
23:31 orlok She's the reason we bought it.
23:31 orlok ace4016: got that too.
23:32 ace4016 hehe
23:32 dumbass geese, she got a pic of a supernova on her actual birthday, and now a house and a car, she's gonna think she's something special
23:33 mbass hands orlok a bag of marshmel
23:33 dumbass i would give ya the robot finger, but that sounds too wierd with marshmellows
23:35 ace4016 hand orlok a robot hand full of marshmellows
23:35 mbass hands orlok a robot hand full of marshmel
23:35 ace4016 a robot handful of marshmellows
23:37 mbass looks conf
23:38 orlok Hmm.
23:38 orlok i know a guy who works for Sellys
23:38 dumbass i dunno Sellys
23:38 orlok maybe he can get me some cheap bulk epoxy
23:38 orlok Selleys maybe?
23:38 mbass sh
23:39 orlok they make stuff called Araldite
23:39 orlok its the generic "brand name" for 2 part epoxy resin here
23:40 orlok oh, different international brands it seems
23:40 orlok http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araldite
23:40 dumbass too pricey for me, plus i tend to put things down on the concrete to pound on them, and if it's covered in soft epoxy i cannot do that
23:41 dumbass ditton putting things down that weigh tons and have sharp corners that would cut the epoxy
23:41 dumbass you can forget about dragging stuff around on epoxy
23:42 dumbass it prolly cold flows too, so if you set your lathe on it, it will sink in, unevenly
23:49 dumbass marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on, marshmellows rumbles on
23:51 Jak_o_Shadows What CAD package do people prefer? In terms of modelling, i prefer inventor, but i get the feeling that Creo's analysis/assemlbly bits are more poewrufl
23:51 mbass has no money and isn't running
23:52 dumbass if i cadded it up, i'd still make it freehand, the only way cad would help me is if i could send it to Tom to make
23:53 orlok eventually i wanht to make a rotating dome to put on the roof of my workshop
23:53 dumbass and these fingers , jeese, i haveto make them from solid steel to leave enough material to hold it intact, i can't make halves and them weld/bolt it
23:53 dumbass rotating dome on a square building?
23:54 orlok yeah
23:54 orlok i'm not going to tear down the existing shed
23:54 orlok but i will probably install a pier beneath it
23:55 orlok so cut a hole in the slab, and excavate as much as i can
23:55 orlok then fill it with concrete, just so its isolated from the rest of the slab
23:55 TELunus|2 Jak_o_Shadows: I'm afraid I've only worked in SolidWorks and Unigraphics NX, but I've injoyed my time in Solidworks quite a bit.
23:56 dumbass ummm, you know those vent towers, cupollas, on barns? that's all you need to point the scope out of, you don't really need to motorise the whole marshemellow
23:57 dumbass then a ring inthe attic for the base of the scope to swing around on
23:57 Jak_o_Shadows Yeah, i've used PTC Creo v1, and inventor, and modelling in creo is painful, yet it's analysis/assembly abilities are a lot better
23:57 orlok dumbass: but i want to be able to point it in all directions
23:58 dumbass you can, your widest swing is witht he base out on the ring, a smaller swing you bring the base in towards the pivot on a radial "spoke"
23:59 dumbass course, your elevation is limited by the slope of the attic roof