#robotics Logs
Oct 13 2012
#robotics Calendar
00:01 home_ GuShH: I am a tree huger
00:01 home_ nigger
00:01 home_ urgh
00:01 tsmeow-afk kickbans
00:01 GuShH the hell?
00:01 ShH bl
00:02 GuShH depression++
00:03 katsmeow-afk you missed Zefiro_unplugged earlier, i suggested you two startt a robotic plane buisness flying stuff from his Pacific side to your Carrib side of the continent
00:03 home_ yeah, sorry about that -.-
00:04 home_ don't know why I said that out
00:04 katsmeow-afk i wasted my time with that suggestion, but i know smeone will do it and make $millions
00:05 GuShH katsmeow-afk: hes a friend of mine, lives about 900KM from where I'm at.
00:05 katsmeow-afk ok
00:05 GuShH home_: huh?
00:05 GuShH katsmeow-afk: I've seriously asked people to bring their contraband equipment and appliances, but I think they would rather move drugs...
00:06 GuShH some do it small scale across Paraguay and other shitty places.
00:06 GuShH Chile as well.
00:06 katsmeow-afk i wasn't necessarily suggesting anything illegal
00:06 GuShH I was
00:06 katsmeow-afk ok
00:07 GuShH It's not possible to do it any other way
00:07 GuShH Since there are laws against the import of used goods.
00:08 tsmeow-afk buys a used 7603R, glues a new faceplate on it, and sells it to GuShH as a new de
00:09 katsmeow-afk it might not even use Tektronix plugins, since it's "new", but you can reverse engineer it with directions you can find on the web, so it can use Tek plugins
00:09 GuShH import fees are 50%
00:09 tsmeow-afk pokes GuShH to see if he is intere
00:09 GuShH and they won't buy a declared value of $10
00:09 GuShH -I've tried-
00:10 tsmeow-afk offers GuShH a $200 bribe to buy the brand new $400 oscope from
00:10 katsmeow-afk when's your birthday?
00:10 GuShH I'd buy it all if I could.
00:11 katsmeow-afk i can't make it any easier for you
00:12 GuShH katsmeow-afk: we can't even buy us dollars anymore... this country has gone to hell once again
00:12 GuShH I seriously wish someone would off the bitch president.
00:12 katsmeow-afk he's a bitch?
00:12 katsmeow-afk he just got re-elected
00:13 rue_house hey, ours too
00:13 katsmeow-afk i thought paypal converts as needed, no need to buy usd
00:13 rue_house they charage a premium for it
00:14 rue_house GuShH, is the aud in a hole right now?
00:14 katsmeow-afk GuShH, do you have a boat?
00:14 katsmeow-afk GuShH isn't in oz
00:15 tsmeow-afk gives code for lat-long coords for a sunk plastic baggie with a scope i
00:15 rue_house GuShH, be glad that your country protects
00:15 rue_house 'made local'
00:15 rue_house when china falls over, NA is screwed
00:15 GuShH katsmeow-afk: wait, I'm not in Colombia...
00:15 GuShH I'm in Argentina, president is a she.
00:15 GuShH Cristina Kirchner.
00:15 GuShH Dictator.
00:16 GuShH Thief, liar, whore, among other things.
00:16 GuShH import substitution doesn't work
00:16 rue_house you know how steve jobs had more ego than anyone in the world?
00:16 rue_house well next down is stephen harper
00:16 rue_house our priminister
00:16 GuShH oh I watched someone at the conan show talk about steve jobs... he made a good point
00:16 GuShH "hey they still came up with the iphone 5 without him right?"
00:16 rue_house he acually said he wasn't repsonsible for what his government does
00:17 GuShH "I mean, what did he do other than sit there and demand for things to get done"
00:17 GuShH lol
00:17 rue_house hes been held in contempt of parliment
00:17 rue_house but he has a majority
00:17 GuShH useless: I would buy you the scope if I could...
00:17 GuShH and any other instruments.
00:18 rue_house GuShH, what you have there I can buy?
00:18 rue_house oh were prettymuch par anyhow
00:18 useless i do not need you to buy me a scope, i have scopes i am trying to sell to you
00:19 rue_house I thought eh aud was in the bin, I was trolling for whats cheap
00:19 GuShH nothing
00:19 GuShH useless: that's not what I meant.
00:19 GuShH I can't buy it.
00:20 GuShH with import duties, shipping and handling, etc. plus the fact that it could get stolen at the customs office, it's too expensive.
00:20 rue_house send kat $400 for her birthday, and she will send you a scope for yours
00:20 rue_house stolen is aus?
00:20 GuShH rue_house: been to the customs office recently
00:20 useless and i'll send you a $200 thankyou gift
00:20 GuShH read their entire bullshit rules page
00:20 GuShH it states that presents are not extempt from duties
00:20 GuShH (spelling)
00:20 GuShH they also enumerated a list of illegal objects
00:21 rue_house we need duties on the us border
00:21 rue_house to counteract their duties
00:21 rue_house cause the 'free trade' is only 1 way
00:21 rue_house which happens to be to the bennifit of the us
00:21 GuShH duty free is something silly like $50 a year here.
00:21 GuShH and if you are travelling it's about $300, yearly
00:22 GuShH problem is you can't buy dollars
00:22 GuShH only illegally.
00:22 GuShH at a very high price.
00:22 useless won't stop me from selling in some thing other than usd
00:23 GuShH useless: tell me what you've got and how much is the shipping and I'll find out whether I can get it or not. mind you it's a 80KM ride to the customs office as well.
00:23 GuShH I actually go across the middle of nowhere and into a small city to get there.
00:24 GuShH cows in between.
00:24 useless yeas, and i often had to drive 45 minutes to Bham to pick up UPS because of the dogs out here
00:25 GuShH see, it also sucks for me.
00:26 useless i am just saying, if you happen to arrive in a vacation site with some tourist from somewhere else, and you buy something from them in your native money (which the tourist then converts to $usd/$Can/$aus), then you've legally bought a $300 declared value item
00:26 GuShH useless: also, no matter how great you are at packaging things, these guys always manage to destroy the contents.
00:27 rue_house kat, when I
00:27 GuShH I think they throw stuff around on purpose, to see how long it takes for it to shatter
00:27 rue_house kat, you nametag fell off again
00:27 useless if your neighbor then does the same thing, and etc....
00:27 rue_house when I was in aus, they were starting to get REALLY paranoid about terrorism
00:28 useless no rue, it didn't, i was useless in decribing a tale of psu construction, in helping GuShH, and in everything else
00:28 rue_house GuShH, can I send you a box of somethings REALLY messy if it breaks?
00:28 GuShH you weren't useless in helping me, I'm useless in buying things from everyone because I just can't do it
00:28 useless jars of mayo?
00:28 rue_house I liked your story, I want to know how you shamfered the edges
00:28 GuShH you can't bring edibles.
00:28 rue_house thin tar maybe
00:28 theBear chamfered :)
00:28 theBear morning peoples
00:28 GuShH hai
00:29 rue_house something that they have ONE HELL of a time hiding where the package was broken
00:29 useless you cannot buy something in $arg from some tourist visting a .ar site??
00:29 theBear who's been talking ? it's not broken, it just curves sideways a little :)
00:29 rue_house maybe 2L of squid ink
00:29 GuShH I could, but how is that going to work?
00:29 GuShH I think you declare your good when you arrive
00:29 GuShH goods*
00:29 rue_house in a thin glass jar
00:30 rue_house I'm good at customs forms
00:30 useless my goods? it's a freaking part of my boat's sonar system!
00:30 rue_house did them all the time
00:30 theBear oh, i don't like that name :(
00:30 GuShH rue_house: eek
00:30 theBear u..less, please fix it ?
00:30 rue_house yea cmon kat, nose up eh?
00:31 theBear none of you have ever seen me even close to this sober, i'm extra sensitive today, you should bend to my will <grin>
00:31 GuShH wouldn't that fall in the organics section?
00:31 GuShH you can't even send seeds to ar
00:31 GuShH useless: haha
00:31 GuShH useless: sure if you can get all the stuff over here, I'll buy it all.
00:31 useless how is sonar equipment organics?
00:31 theBear i just tape a bat to my hull, that's how
00:31 GuShH two labs worth of instruments, so I can sell half.
00:32 GuShH the squid ink is
00:32 GuShH theBear: if it goes "kachunk" you've found nemo.
00:32 GuShH the boat, that is, you've run over it.
00:33 useless well, when i thought you lived in Chavez country, i could boat there, but i am on the wrong ocean for .ar
00:33 theBear heh
00:33 rue_house GuShH, if I can come up with soemthing can you give me a fake address that will come close to where you live? see if they break it?
00:33 theBear Caeser Chavez ?
00:33 useless the guy that stood up to Bush
00:33 GuShH I'm not in Colombia, at all.
00:33 GuShH yes, hes a filthy dictator
00:33 GuShH and should be shot.
00:34 GuShH Kirchner follows his steps
00:34 GuShH in making a dumb ass country, banning imports, etc.
00:34 useless venezuela
00:34 GuShH meanwhile she goes around town with a U$D 30.000 purse.
00:34 GuShH and 10k shoes.
00:34 GuShH oh yeah
00:34 GuShH I get them mixed up
00:35 rue_house they are trying to encourage local manufacture and export
00:35 GuShH they're both shitty places to live.
00:35 GuShH rue_house: doesn't work
00:35 rue_house so find something stupid to make and export
00:35 useless oh,, you are on the atl, i got you mixed up with chile
00:35 GuShH it's a lie.
00:35 theBear "Hey ! This is Louie Vitton !" "Umm buddy, this ain't the kinda bar you want people to know you named your handbag..." "It's a satchel, you asshole !"
00:35 GuShH rue_house: the cellphones "made" here are not MADE here, they are assembled, and it costs more than importing them from elsewhere
00:35 GuShH and nobody gains, except for the guys making those rules.
00:35 GuShH they fill up their own pockets.
00:36 GuShH our president for instance likes to launder her money right in your face
00:36 rue_house aha
00:36 rue_house so you name it, I take out 1 screw, you import it as parts, 'assemble' it and sell it
00:36 rue_house made in aus
00:36 GuShH for that, I need a license.
00:37 rue_house yea a business liscence for operating the 'factory'
00:37 GuShH and I'd have to move to Tierra Del Fuego
00:37 theBear i've spent all week with the germans and the israelis and a pair of men who sound like the beetles....
00:37 GuShH which is where most of the licenses are.
00:37 GuShH ok, do you call that an orgy or what?
00:37 rue_house GuShH, what do people want they cant get?
00:37 GuShH the president shot.
00:38 rue_house material
00:38 theBear nah, i didn't even try that :)
00:38 GuShH and companies like Telecom out of the country
00:38 rue_house you mean...
00:38 rue_house oh whats the name
00:39 rue_house theBear, whats that telco company
00:39 theBear Telecom became Telstra maybe 20 years ago
00:39 rue_house telsta,
00:39 rue_house thats it
00:39 GuShH with regard to the money issues, she came up with a "free" technology carnival/fair for "the people" .... looking at the budget you realize a popcorn stand cannot cost $3.000.000
00:39 useless there was that whole song about it
00:39 theBear GuShH, hehehe
00:39 GuShH that's how these sons of bitches do it, that's how they clean up their cash
00:40 theBear popcorn, OF COURSE !
00:40 theBear GENIUS !
00:40 GuShH it's all out there and known, why won't they blow her brains out?
00:40 rue_house with all the terroi*st stuff going around there, you might not want to type that too loud
00:40 GuShH am I the only one who thinks politicians should be tortured?
00:40 rue_house no
00:40 GuShH ok.
00:40 GuShH I can type it since I won't do it
00:41 rue_house we need to govern ourselvs via internet
00:41 rue_house not with isolated people with stupid ideas
00:41 theBear GuShH, i think most people should be, but i try not to mention it 'cos i will do it
00:41 useless see: #seasteading
00:41 GuShH If I were to do it, I wouldn't talk about it.
00:41 useless then don't see: #seasteading
00:41 rue_house there are huge cities in canada where EVERYONE works for the government
00:41 GuShH haha
00:42 rue_house guess where the determining votes come from?
00:42 GuShH Welcome to Grubmint, Canada.
00:42 theBear NOONE votes for me
00:42 theBear :(
00:42 GuShH oh, I know where ours come from... the poor, they get paid off
00:42 rue_house I'll vote for you
00:42 eless voted for the bear, but it was a se
00:42 rue_house wont do much good
00:42 theBear will you pay me off too ?
00:42 GuShH in venezuela they get people from other countries to vote.
00:42 theBear hey rue ! EVERY voice counts !
00:42 rue_house I did, remmeber the servos?
00:42 theBear pfft nah, i don't believe in democracy, that's a fallacy
00:42 rue_house GuShH, vote for bear
00:42 GuShH theBear: they've given people "free" lands that wasn't theirs to give...
00:43 theBear oooh, good boy, i do, and i still use them :)
00:43 rue_house theBear, they aren't doing the 'terrorism levels' are they?
00:43 rue_house bushes way of terrorizing citizens
00:43 ShH hands useless a cup of co
00:43 eless sniff
00:43 theBear lol, i WISH... then again, it's possible, i've very effectively been underground for at least 6 months.... i know NOTHING of 'current affairs'
00:44 GuShH my coffee falls in the russian category: STRONG
00:44 rue_house theBear, should I play that bit at the end of chumbawumbas marry marry backwards to see what it says?
00:45 GuShH theBear: Men At Work - Business As Usual - 04 - Underground
00:45 ShH g
00:45 e_house play
00:45 theBear mary mary ? that wasn't them... i like the one about having all the drinks then getting up again
00:46 GuShH hmm
00:46 rue_house in china you cant say that without people breaking into the room, arresting and shooting you
00:46 GuShH oh ... this explains the lack of sound, jack unplugged.
00:46 GuShH say what?
00:46 rue_house "you should have bought connections before.
00:47 GuShH in china you can't have more than 1-2 children, which is good.
00:47 GuShH with the excuse of religion people have 9-12 children and often starve or live off others
00:47 theBear reminds me, i think i gotta fix that very punished laptop again for a pretty girl
00:48 GuShH theBear: you sound more like their track Down Under
00:48 theBear hehe, maybe, hehehehe
00:48 ShH matches up Who Can It Be
00:49 rue_house people like to play with words
00:49 rue_house I still want to know what "head full of zombie" is
00:50 theBear lol, me too
00:50 rue_house theBear,
00:50 rue_house did you see my article?
00:50 GuShH I don't get the obsession with zombies
00:51 theBear servo101 ? i spell corrected random parts until style and motivation was called into question, then i err, did something else
00:51 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
00:51 rue_house I made that mess today
00:51 theBear ooh, quite the literary powerhouse this week eh ?
00:51 rue_house :)
00:51 rue_house they had an article on hackaday about making articles, it inspired me
00:51 rue_house and I'm stuck in my house ill
00:52 rue_house sorry, its longwinded
00:52 theBear their = they're = they are... silly rue :)
00:53 GuShH ow where's my the clash cd :(
00:53 rue_house I'm not supposed to make that error
00:53 GuShH useless: what was the name of the guy that lives in a boat and happens to pop in freenode once in a while?
00:53 theBear nice neat schem, didn't even use graph paper
00:53 useless i dunno
00:53 rue_house been doing them since I was 12,
00:53 rue_house I was REALLY annoyed with the tech school instructors insisting I use a template
00:54 GuShH s/in/on ... what's happening to me :(
00:54 ShH s
00:55 rue_house hah, looking at it, my lines are striaghter than my text alignment
00:55 theBear you know rue, legally, even with those uninsulated spades, that is still a class2/double insulated CE passable design you got there
00:55 rue_house :)
00:55 GuShH useless: are you really going to live on a boat?
00:55 useless if i can
00:56 theBear "on a boat muthafucka!" :)
00:56 theBear oh, you gnd'd the case, so it's class 1, but still CE passable like that
00:56 rue_house I had to unground it
00:56 theBear why ?
00:57 rue_house picking up noise
00:57 theBear oh, you never connect inputs to it
00:57 rue_house oddly enough when I shorted an input
00:57 theBear but if you got a metal case i like to gnd it
00:57 GuShH why not?
00:57 theBear aside from anything else, most audio stuff is already gnd'd, easier to just have your bit floating
00:57 theBear avoid loopy loops and things
00:57 rue_house yea
00:58 rue_house I suppose the case lid should be power gnd and the rest signal gnd
00:58 theBear i've seen very few things with audio gnd'd to chassis since the days of real valve amps
00:58 useless usually there's a 470k resistor or something from signal gnd to chassis gnd
00:58 rue_house they used to do that freaky resistor from hot/neutral to chassis
00:59 rue_house :)
00:59 rue_house theBear, generally too long winded or bearable?
01:00 GuShH_ crap
01:00 ace4016 that was bearly a pun
01:00 rue_house that wasn't an option
01:01 rue_house I was going to put a shield between the smps and the analog circuits
01:02 rue_house I'm gonna go take out the mail, biab
01:02 theBear what ? i missed the bearly pun
01:02 GuShH_ wouldn't want the mail pooping inside
01:03 useless how do you fasten the leash to the mail ?
01:03 theBear you also often see a cap to gnd... i have mixed feelings on this... among others as someone suggested the other day, this allows hi-freq gndloops which i imagine are even more elusive than regular ones when they surprise you
01:04 theBear useless, hehe :) see, that made me smile, you should change your name
01:04 theBear morning mr theo
01:04 useless rue stand outside and calls the mail : "Mail! Mail! Heeeeeeeeerrrreeee mail! I am NOT gay!"
01:04 ace4016 lol
01:04 theBear hehe "if anyting, he's the lady, not me"
01:04 GuShH_ o.o
01:05 theBear ooh here's a test, not drinking, pretty girl coming to visit... hold it together bear !
01:05 GuShH_ reminds me of the southpark episode
01:05 GuShH_ the ups guy
01:05 theBear i gave in and had two glasses of wine last night... damned medical papers got me scared, siezures and death... sigh
01:05 GuShH_ the personal security system called IN-Security made me laugh pretty hard :)
01:05 theBear hehe
01:06 GuShH_ theBear: Should I drink for you?
01:06 theBear i always like Miss Information
01:06 GuShH_ I could do the effort
01:06 GuShH_ Take one for the team and all that
01:06 theBear GuShH_, i just, i dunno anymore... this is the first time in 3years 7months and 7 days i haven't been thirsty (well yesterday anyway) .... i'm just err, disgusted at what alcahol can do to some people this week, i just don't know anymore
01:07 theBear work was tough yesterday... could aim the desoldering gun
01:07 theBear err couldn't
01:07 ShH_ has been cured for y
01:07 GuShH_ doesn't mean you can't drink a beer to enjoy it
01:08 GuShH_ now I just need to get my back cured... and...
01:08 GuShH_ I don't like the constant pain
01:08 ace4016 acupuncture?
01:08 GuShH_ sounds like bs
01:08 theBear cured ? i was never ill, i never had a problem and i maintain that... but i just, if something can make some people so damned horrible or crazy or dangerous, i'm not sure i wanna be associated with it
01:08 GuShH_ if I were a horse you would've shot me long ago
01:09 theBear not me, i like animals... if you were a human i mighta took you out behind the house and shot yer tho
01:09 rue_house theBear, too long winded?
01:09 useless "we are the High Alert Commercial Knowledge Extrusion Repulsors, if you hire us to protect out business, HACKERS will run your security"
01:09 GuShH_ lol
01:09 theBear rue_house, the article ? nah, i think it's nice, little sections alternated with pics and accurate schems etc
01:09 GuShH_ you should off the horsey if it's in pain
01:09 eless is in
01:10 theBear GuShH_, and not people ? that doesn't make any sense, that's ass backwards !
01:10 theBear or at least horse backwards (i like to think of them like giant asses)
01:10 theBear el burro
01:10 e4016 hands useless a sp
01:10 GuShH_ people can choose, I guess.
01:10 GuShH_ useless: what sort of pain?
01:10 GuShH_ I've been told to smoke marihuana...
01:10 GuShH_ For the back pain.
01:11 eless inhales it deeeeee
01:11 GuShH_ Wouldn't that make me even more *useless*
01:11 theBear GuShH_, it doesn't help much, but it can make it easier to ignore for a while
01:11 useless back pain, peripheral nerve pain, mental pain, emotional pain
01:11 ace4016 GuShH_, back pain? tried excercises to strengthen the back/legs/etc.? are you overweight as well? might want to lose the belly fat
01:12 theBear i started limping again last night, seem ok today... damned stress... going to court on monday, take out an order, then it'll all be better
01:12 GuShH_ now now quit listing my problems
01:12 ace4016 lol
01:12 theBear they're my problems, and you can't take that away from me !
01:12 ace4016 stop eating so much sugar too GuShH_ :P
01:13 eBear literally can't get fat if he t
01:13 GuShH_ what's wrong with sugar?
01:13 ShH_ is not
01:13 GuShH_ my back hurts due to injuries
01:13 GuShH_ not because I've got saggy tits
01:13 ace4016 ah
01:13 theBear i like to imagine i've got a symbiotic giant worm inside me
01:13 ace4016 so...you're not from north america then
01:13 ace4016 :P
01:13 GuShH_ and flaps
01:13 GuShH_ which I don't dammit.
01:14 ace4016 theBear, considering where you are...i'd believe it
01:14 GuShH_ I used to play rugby!
01:14 theBear i noticed congenital psuedoathrosis on a piece of paper the other day... that doesn't sound great
01:14 theBear ace4016, what ? i cook good
01:14 GuShH_ I'm not
01:14 theBear GuShH_, lol me too, those days are LONG gone
01:14 ace4016 theBear, talking about the worm
01:14 GuShH_ arthrosis? (or hwoever you spell it)
01:14 theBear oh, really ? you know where i'm at ? cos err, not many wormses here
01:14 GuShH_ why is it called pseudo, it either is or it isn't!
01:14 ace4016 GuShH_, well, i'd still say excercise to strengthen the back
01:15 theBear GuShH_, false joint
01:15 theBear visitor... l8rs
01:15 ace4016 adios muchacho
01:15 useless be wonderful to her
01:15 GuShH_ ace4016: It just hurts more the day after
01:15 GuShH_ chau (?)
01:15 useless caio
01:15 ace4016 wrong excercises?
01:15 GuShH_ no, be a total arse, that's how you score!
01:16 ace4016 go to a physical therapist? just make sure it's not the rapist
01:16 GuShH_ show her your scars and shoot some guns
01:16 ShH_ r
01:16 GuShH_ they all rape your wallet.
01:17 rue_house I'm to bed
01:17 rue_bed dosnt change much
01:18 GuShH_ useless: now you know why I'm often an ass, it's the pain.
01:18 rue_bed theBear, you wanted to make a balancing robot
01:18 useless Spanish: chau (es), chao (es) ; Italian: ciao (it)
01:18 GuShH_ that was a quick hop to bed
01:19 GuShH_ chau, bye.
01:19 eless sits down by the
01:19 rue_bed windows CE ME NT combined, to form windows CEMENT, hard as a rock, dumb as a brick?
01:19 GuShH_ not sure why it's a spanish word, I never understood where it comes from.
01:20 GuShH_ :p
01:20 GuShH_ cement is hard as a rock?
01:20 useless soft rocks, sure
01:20 useless but if you add granite gravel, it gets a lot harder
01:21 rue_bed your not too young to know about windows CEMENT?
01:21 GuShH_ what's the mixture they use for prison cell blocks?
01:21 GuShH_ they refused to say
01:21 GuShH_ at this documentary I watched...
01:21 GuShH_ why would you make a documentary if you won't show me how it's really done
01:22 GuShH_ rue_bed: what about 3.1?
01:22 rue_bed they put spoons in it, cause a spoon cant be used to dig thru a spoon
01:22 GuShH_ haha
01:22 rue_bed http://www.tburke.net/fun_stuff/pictures/computers/windows-cement.jpg
01:23 ShH_ plays Fast Car to use
01:24 useless by what's her nick?
01:24 ShH_ gets fed up with the guitar and shoves it through the
01:24 e_bed plays lenny cravitz, fly
01:24 GuShH_ tracy chapman
01:24 useless yeas, i was stage crew for her in Atl one yr
01:25 rue_bed cool
01:25 useless gave me goosebumps
01:25 useless i miss doing that stuff
01:25 GuShH_ :o
01:26 rue_bed arg, I need to sleep on a reverse incline
01:26 rue_bed make sure my head drains away from my body
01:26 rue_bed maybe if I curl upside down against the wall...
01:27 ShH_ gets the wrong
01:27 home_ so
01:27 home_ was doing some vision targeting :/ / processing
01:27 home_ sigh
01:28 rue_bed nobody here has met the dancing robot challenge yet
01:28 GuShH_ I'll get the gun and we'll make it dance in a second
01:34 eless saws open the last relay for the
01:34 rue_bed ?
01:35 rue_bed coils?
01:35 ace4016 coils!
01:36 useless they put 20amp spade terms on a relay, and wire them internally with 24awg
01:36 GuShH_ murder!
01:36 ShH_ calls the relay
01:36 ShH_ coils the relay
01:36 GuShH_ but, china says it's ok
01:38 home_ I want relays
01:38 home_ GIVE ME relays
01:38 GuShH_ you want the relay? YOU CANT HANDLE THE RELAY
01:40 useless oh this 30amp one is even better: two spade lugs on top, but the moveing pole is the 18awg pin on the bottom, and 18 runs hot at 5amps
01:45 rue_bed I presume they were burned out
01:47 useless they will
01:47 useless the moving pole on the 30amp one is .170 wide by .01 thick, what's the amp rating of that?
01:47 GuShH_ ffs another dead microsd reader :(
01:54 useless the moving pole piece is 0.0017 cu in in cross section, awg 18 is 0.00127, only 25% difference, so if i allow 3amps for #18 in a closed space, then this "30 amp" relay is good for only 4 amps before it's overheated
01:56 useless plus, the pole isn't coper, it's copper plated, so it will run even hotter
01:58 useless i was going to put the 30amp one in the heater which pulls 10amps, but this relay won't survive it
01:59 useless how do i get good relays, rue?
02:00 useless this is like irf1404 good for 40amps with those skinny thin TO-220 leads
02:00 GuShH_ don't you get what you pay for?
02:00 GuShH_ look for NOS otherwise
02:00 ShH_ likes omron s
02:01 useless or a speaker good for 500watts? what, with liquid nitrogen flooding the voice coil?
02:01 useless this was potter-brumfield NEW stuff
02:02 useless o called up the oem datasheets on it before buying
02:03 useless this is like buying BNC connectors from China and finding out they used insulators that are basicly short circuits at 50Mhz
02:06 GuShH_ o.o
02:15 useless rule #1 of intenet databases: if the line has "muth" or "motha" or "mothe" in it, delete it
02:19 GuShH_ lol
03:01 theBear c'mon, anyone that can do maths like that ain't useless
03:02 theBear rue_bed, and i wanted to grow old and have children with the visitor that just left, but that never happened... don't worry, the robot is still on the cards... heck, who knows what the future holds...
03:36 GuShH_ theBear: got dumped?
03:37 GuShH_ crap, the fs on this sd card is dead
03:44 GuShH_ yep... fs gone bad
03:44 GuShH_ I thought it was the reader
03:49 GuShH_ theBear: what's a small tool for windows I can use to recover the data? mind you I'm on gprs
03:49 GuShH_ everything that comes to mind is too big to download
04:55 theBear don't be silly, we parted ways years ago for one reason and another, and even 15 years before that, but we always seem to come back one way or another
04:56 theBear i dunno, i never used what they call windows these days
04:56 theBear in part 'cos it's useless for stuff like recovering data :)
04:56 theBear maybe like, chkdsk /f :)
08:58 m_itx looks at theBear with a den of bear
08:59 theBear wow ! most people just use their eyes
08:59 theBear that's a good trick
10:59 rue_house wow
11:00 rue_house it dosn't matter if there i a reason or not, during power outage season there WILL be power outages
11:03 rue_house and I dont really have a working gen right now
11:04 CoJaBo Oh *. My netbook OR its power brick just died. And my was-once-a-brake-lamp power supply load testing tool is burned out too :/
11:07 rue_house tobbor gave up on finding the newwork
11:09 rue_house CoJaBo, have a multimeter?
11:09 rue_house 19V would do in a brakelight reasonably auick
11:09 rue_house quick
11:10 rue_house oh man, I was writing like 8 programs and i dont knwo what they were to reopen them
11:11 CoJaBo rue_house: It tests fine on the meter, but about 50% of them don't hold up under load; its a 12V supply.
11:12 CoJaBo I don't seem to have any other 12v bulbs either. gah.
11:13 CoJaBo which is weird, because cars have two brake lamps, wheres the other one >_>
11:16 CoJaBo k. I just found a, christmas(?) card, a toothbrush brushing an.. upright purple-ish cylinder that is squirting white stuff out the top. CAN NOT UNSEE
11:23 GuShH CoJaBo: embrace it
11:24 CoJaBo this is why i don't search thru strange drawrs <_<
11:28 home rue_house: atleast you can program :/
11:30 CoJaBo found one. connect bulb, output drops to 0.0mv
11:31 CoJaBo incidentally, the power LED wont go off; its never done that before either
11:35 rue_house CoJaBo, use a mains voltag lightbulb, it'll put enough load for a test
11:36 rue_house home, want to learn C?
11:40 CoJaBo the LED just now went it
11:40 CoJaBo the LED just now went out
11:41 CoJaBo it stayed lit for.. almost ten mins unplugged
11:41 home rue_house: I can learn C++ :D
11:41 home rue_house: C, not so much, but my Arduino supports it kinda
11:44 rue_house C is a better language to know
11:45 rue_house but if your complaining about not being able to program and dont want to learn I'll just ignore the situation
11:45 rue_house people do this a lot for some reason
11:46 rue_house complain a LOT about something thats really easy to deal with, but refuse to deal with it
12:06 CoJaBo Yep. Its def. the power brick lol: http://imgur.com/HQhKQ
12:07 rue_house :)
12:09 rue_house oh yea, I wrote a PLC core
12:09 rue_house hmmm
12:09 home meh
12:09 home I hear C is dying
12:10 home so I don't touch it >.<
12:10 home same goes for like asm >.>
12:10 rue_house hahahahahaah
12:11 rue_house why dont you try to make a led flash with java source on an 8 bit 4k microcontroller
12:11 rue_house C compiles into memory-efficient, fast code
12:11 rue_house c++ does not
12:11 rue_house java does not
12:12 rue_house asm is good to know for tight timing requirements
12:12 rue_house but you prolly dont care about latency
12:18 home I don't like C :/ or ASM
12:19 home thats the problem XD
12:22 rue_house their not good enough for you
12:22 rue_house nothing is
12:22 rue_house I'v seen it before
12:22 rue_house home,
12:22 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
12:22 rue_house I would like to hilight the phrase
12:23 rue_house ''inferior' options, I have seen some people forgo building their projects at all because the worlds technology is just not up to snuff for them, they never end up building anything since that first transistor led flasher (which of course is no way to flash an LED right? everyone knows you use a 555 tiny13 arduino rasberry pi)'
12:23 rue_house home ^^^ thats you
12:24 theBear c is never dying, and NO languages can exist with asm
12:24 home meh
12:25 theBear meh my ass, it's simple facts
12:26 home I haven't touched those two things in a long time :/
12:26 home been busy with stuff
12:26 theBear and by with asm, i meant without asm
12:26 home theBear: I got it :P
12:27 theBear and name a single os not written in C, i dares ya
12:29 home rue_house: I take back what I said about the programming part, I am just extremely lazy nowdays...go too much to focus on :/
12:29 any95810168 what about poeple who shut down their website because since 1998 no one from the general internet has ever contacted them to give a pat on the back, and every month people on irc have made them feel like crap for having any project at all?
12:30 home any95810168: what?
12:30 theBear what about people that just act like huge girls when they're having a bad day
12:30 theBear what about them ?
12:30 home theBear: I am having an awesome day :D
12:30 any95810168 "huge girls" ?
12:31 any95810168 being "not male" is a bad thing, eh?
12:31 theBear it's a turn of phrase, you know what i mean, fucking
12:31 home theBear: you seem to be having a bad day XD, heres a cookie.
12:31 any95810168 an unfortunate one
12:32 y95810168 goes to trash her web
12:32 theBear i'm just grumpy 'cos someone amazing is being a big girl today
12:32 theBear and technically in this context it's short for big girls blouse
12:32 rue_house I been scorned for telling people that
12:33 smeding hahaha, C dying?
12:33 rue_house but its just the way they are
12:33 home rue_house: you are right though
12:33 smeding no sir-ee
12:33 theBear rue is always right, just like a certain big girl
12:33 rue_house to really know anything about anything you have to have EXPERIANCE
12:34 home smeding: guess its not, that means I have to learn it
12:34 home useless: What's wrong :O
12:34 ShH sets home on
12:34 theBear oh for fucks sake
12:34 theBear i'm out
12:34 rue_house kats doing it again?
12:35 rue_house oh she left
12:35 rue_house damn
12:35 useless again? it didn't stop from last nite
12:35 home rue_house: I had an idea
12:35 rue_house if we start to see her getting depressed we have to catch the self-destruction thing early
12:35 rue_house erp
12:35 home not sure if I should use a servo :/
12:35 rue_house kat please dont be self-destructive
12:35 theBear then you're no better than i am
12:36 home I was thinking of having a servo follow a ball, rolling across the roon
12:36 home room*
12:36 theBear and even i'm not doing it this week, for the first time in 3 years and 7 months
12:36 home a servo with a camera mounted on top
12:36 home the ball will be orange
12:36 rue_house home, have you ever done vision code?
12:36 useless there, no projects, DesignerThinking.com is off the air, marshmellows are more important than projects, and besides, i'm a girl
12:37 home rue_house: thats what I have been doing, since last knight..
12:37 home rue_house: been trying to track rectangles...
12:37 rue_house kat, it was just background noise
12:37 home but I was thinking of tracking a basketball
12:37 eless eats more anta
12:37 home going across the room >.>
12:37 home useless: you sound like your neighbours are like shooting stuff
12:38 theBear use pariet, they always stop my tummy bleeding
12:38 rue_house kat, nobody gets a pat on theback for their website work
12:38 useless i give you pats on the back, i have given Tom and bear pats too
12:39 rue_house uh
12:39 theBear oh fuck you ! only useless thing you ever done is call yerself useless and then act like this ! well here ya go, i'm fucking coming with yer, and i got much more ways to destroy my mind and body
12:39 useless you, you flood the channel with marshmellows after i comply with your request i "tell a tale" of a project
12:39 rue_house please name the last time tom posted a page from his site
12:39 theBear i haven't had a public website since last century, and i'm constantly patting you on the back for things
12:39 rue_house I'm sorry I upset you
12:39 home wait a minute
12:39 theBear but fuckit, you won't help me out with a simple nick change, i'll destroy myself, proper fucked
12:39 home I have a kinect..
12:40 home Maybe I can bounce a basketball
12:40 useless so see bear, you don't have a site, i don't need one either, i can stop contributing too
12:40 home and have the kinect use its servo/gearing thing to make it tilt up and down
12:40 theBear if ya really want, say a few more things, i'll give up on this restraining order and go round the corner and kill someone in their own home in front of their father... technically a mercy killing, but nontheless
12:40 e_house sets off a sprinkler head to reduce the heat in the
12:41 theBear i contribute with my irc, in fact, it's about all i do except intentionally destroy my mind and body so as not to care, but i don't rub it all over my friends and associates round these parts
12:41 home rue_house: I thought our discussion over C was crazy, but this is surely something else :D
12:41 smeding this is... interesting
12:41 theBear wonder how many of those pills that a friend accidentally left behind the other day it would take
12:42 theBear should i find out useless ? would that make you feel better
12:42 useless bear, that's it: i was trying to contribute on irc
12:42 smeding who is doing what now, what is the drama about
12:42 smeding moreover do i /want/ to know
12:43 home smeding: Its all my fault :(
12:43 home smeding: I am going to go program that thing in C... :D
12:43 useless of the 100 nicks inhere, 4 have webpages, wtf do you care i took mine down? it only caused me grief anyhow, even tho i was proud of it
12:43 smeding i have a webpage! it rocks
12:43 smeding http://roysmeding.nl/
12:43 theBear useless, you always fucking help around here, you know fucking everything like rue does ! if i managed to go from being intent on murdering someone just a few days ago, fucking stopped drinking, the one thing i love, you can fucking change your nick and cheer up
12:44 rue_house kat, I think your using other people to measure yourself
12:44 rue_house I was thinking about this formyself last night
12:44 useless rue, there is no othe measure
12:44 smeding oh, is useless kat?
12:44 smeding i'm not a regular here... yet
12:44 rue_house I have so many crazy ideas that are awesome that just plain nobody understands
12:44 theBear but it's too late now, i'm pissed off, if you're allowed to fuck yourself, heck, i'd just be going back to the only thing i can remember doing with my time since before i was a teenager
12:44 home smeding: my website sucks more than yours, and probably kats
12:44 home http://www.openknight.com/blog/
12:44 rue_house when I try my best to explain the ideas to them, they twist it into something else they write off
12:45 smeding well it's pretty hard to have a website better than mine
12:45 rue_house so kat
12:45 rue_house you cant measure against them, its about you
12:45 home rue_house: I love that robot thing that you are trying to make XD I also appreciate all those pics you got 0_0
12:45 rue_house be who you want to be
12:45 theBear if i stop typing in an hour or so, call an ambliance i spose, if you care (yep, i got the useless vibe in me now, i told you to please fucking change it hours ago, but did you ? no no no)
12:45 smeding theBear: whaaat?
12:45 home useless: I am sure I am more useless than you, so cheer up :D
12:46 useless home, i am sure you are too
12:46 home no one is more usless than me :D, I can't even program in C >.>
12:46 home and half of the stuff I have don't even belong to me... I gotta borrow stuff
12:46 rue_house kat you put up the webpage cause you hope, like I do, that SOMEONE as msart as yourself will find it and understand
12:46 useless however, more humans want you around irl, that i am also sure of
12:46 home oh the shame!
12:46 rue_house I do to
12:47 rue_house secondly, kat, your depressed, think about this, stand outside yourself for a bit
12:47 theBear smeding, meh, i'm invincible, i couldn't kill myself if i chewed the barrel of a sawnoff and shot it with my foot, but if one of the smartest fucking people i know is gonna act like this, why should i try to improve my life ?
12:47 rue_house your frustrated too,
12:47 rue_house and not without cause
12:48 rue_house smeding, he's right, if life could have put him down, he wouldn't be speaking to us today
12:48 theBear i suppose i SHOULD say thanks tho, for the first time in my adult life i was disgusted by alcahol and chose to move away from it a couple days ago, that's all over now, i can go back to what i love
12:48 useless bear, it took a lot for me to accept the req last nite her to discuss a project in detail, and i was walked on AGAIN
12:48 theBear not my adult life, my whole life
12:48 rue_house theBear, actually, zhanx was worse than you
12:48 useless it was almost like the "ping string" all over again
12:48 home theBear: I bet I have it worse :D
12:48 home I always win these competition
12:48 theBear useless, what dumb fuck walked on you ?
12:48 useless rue
12:49 theBear FUCK RUE !
12:49 rue_house I'm always the one who upsets kat
12:49 useless :-(
12:49 rue_house think back on it!
12:49 rue_house EVERY time its been mE!
12:49 home smeding: so what do you do :D
12:49 theBear home, not a fucking chance in hell ! i can start listing things if you want, but it'll take 10 minutes typing at HIGH speed to get 90% of them
12:50 rue_house kat am I right?
12:50 home theBear: I have lived in different parts of the world
12:50 useless don't "fuck rue", he survives, i don't, pat him on the back for getting rid of a girl
12:50 home theBear: and no one cares :(
12:50 theBear AND i'm invincible, i cannot die, many things have tried, all have failed... i've fallen off waterfalls, headon at high speeds, hit over the head with all manner of things
12:50 useless home, you got a gf/wife, don't gimme that bs
12:50 home useless: I am 17
12:51 home been in this channel since I was like 16 >.>
12:51 theBear you're 17 and you think you win the 'who's more fucked game with me' ? you poor fool ! i bet you haven't even had more than 3 people you care about die in your arms
12:51 home theBear: Your argument fails
12:52 theBear oh i got more, that was just the first and most likely example
12:52 rue_house theBear, ?
12:52 home theBear: I could have 0 to 1000 people dead, and it wouldn't matter
12:52 theBear rue_house, that's cool, i was only 17 by then, i've had REAL misery in all the years since
12:52 home theBear: Just so you know, I have had people die
12:52 theBear home, don't try to make this a competition, and don't get involved, you won't help in any regard
12:53 home theBear: You are the one thats trying to win, I am not :P
12:53 theBear and now, to the drug cabinet, wasn't fucking around
12:53 e_house offsers theBear pizza and a
12:53 theBear home, you are the one that made it a competition, and i'm very competitive in areas i know i'm on top of
12:53 rue_house theBear, you guys getting warmer out there?
12:53 home theBear: Fine, you win
12:53 theBear rue_house, how does that help ? seriously ? fucking words on a screen !
12:53 home theBear: You have it worse off than me
12:53 theBear altho since 10 mins ago, i would drink the beer, if it wasn't a word !
12:54 home hmm, I want to build a solar house :/
12:54 home got a shed in my backyard..
12:54 home wonder if I can turn it into a greenhouse, for the winter :/
12:54 rue_house home, have you ever hammered a nail into a baord
12:54 home rue_house: I think so
12:54 home rue_house: its hard
12:54 home I like drilling them nails in :D, nail guns are fun fun
12:55 rue_house home, whats the length for a wall stud
12:56 home 2 by 7?
12:56 smeding home: i'm an electrical engineering student
12:56 home smeding: cool
12:56 home smeding: fun :D
12:57 home smeding: I would be lucky to get into an EE program
12:57 home haha
12:57 home rue_house: I don't know >.<
12:57 rue_house theBear, kat, please dont do anything crazy, I dont want tom and me to be the only ones left
12:57 smeding it's not a matter of 'getting into' the program here really
12:57 home smeding: for me it is, which sucks
12:57 home smeding: china is crazy though
12:57 smeding i pay up with money the government gives me
12:58 home meh
12:58 smeding and i take classes
12:58 home you are lucky XD
12:58 smeding well, me and my parents pay for this shit too
12:58 home I dont get any money
12:58 smeding but the main contributor here is the government, thankfully
12:58 home I only have 2,556 dollar saved up
12:58 smeding i have €3 in my bank account iirc
12:58 home lol
12:58 rue_house kat you came here looking for someone who could understand you, yes?
12:58 smeding money goes out about as fast as it comes in
12:59 home yeah
12:59 smeding i don't really have an opportunity to save much if i want to do anything besides study and work
12:59 home I want to spend it on something
12:59 home like a good computer
12:59 home or a set of good tools
12:59 smeding you can get a good computer for way under 2.5 grand
12:59 rue_house so yo can play good games?
12:59 home smeding: meh, I can get a pc for 35 dollars + tax
12:59 home computers are overrated :/
13:00 home rue_house: of course :D
13:00 smeding i don't know, i still think my beefy desktop and my silly laptop were decent investments
13:00 home rue_house: and compile stuff and render stuff, really really fast
13:00 rue_house home, because games improve you skills right?
13:00 theBear rue_house, seriously, i'm invincible, don't make me prove it... and in the meantime, be fucking nice to our friends !
13:00 home rue_house: depends on the game
13:00 theBear in the meantime, it's interesting taking pills you don't know, specially with liquor
13:01 theBear wonder how much oxazepam and wine it does take to kill the invincible
13:01 rue_house theBear, could you work on a balancing robot instead?
13:01 home I want to make a blaancing robot
13:01 home but don't have the sensors :/
13:01 rue_house home, learn C
13:01 home 0_0
13:01 theBear rue_house, no, for a start i been shaking so bad from the alcahol withdrawl i can't do anything with my hands, that'll pass in a minute now i started binge drinking everything in the house
13:01 home rue_house: I just don't see a point, unless I was programming my Arduino >.<
13:02 theBear but by then i won't be able to think from all these pills i just took
13:02 home rue_house: which I wont be touching until I get my accelerometer back L:/
13:02 rue_house home, you dont need an acceleromter
13:03 home rue_house: great idea
13:03 theBear maybe i am still a LITTLE positive, maybe all this will have me cheerful again by morning, not like i didn't impose on every friend i got to achieve it this week, i don't think i got any more of that kinda credit left, i really imposed, i was a miserable violent sociopathic monster
13:03 rue_house your doing it again
13:03 theBear you're
13:03 theBear and now, i'm sorry for the swearing
13:03 rue_house your setting the bar above waht you can do, saying that anything less is pointless
13:03 theBear l8r
13:03 home rue_house: I should go copy the C compiler onto this pc >.>
13:03 rue_house yup, see if you can get hello world going
13:04 home trying to turn my other lappy on >.>
13:04 rue_house kat at no point last night did you ask either of us to shut the **** up
13:05 theBear rue_house, some people are more polite than me
13:05 home wow
13:05 home I just realized that, I have to fix my other laptop
13:05 home the fan for it is dying :*(
13:06 home and the bevel around the lappy is torn off
13:06 home theBear: I like you :D, you are cool
13:07 GuShH what's going on here!
13:07 theBear home, maybe, when i'm not sober, but like i said, that's over again now, i'll be back to my normal numbed self
13:07 home GuShH: people are going crazy since I can't program in C ( or C++)
13:08 GuShH home: push da button
13:08 rue_house home dosn't want to learn C beause he thinks its useless
13:09 GuShH since when theBear ain't polite?
13:09 home I don't really think C is useless, its really better for me to not learn it
13:09 GuShH stupid edge connection and stupid dns are down again
13:10 rue_house whatever the min legal BAL of australlia is, I think theBear just dipped under it
13:10 theBear since about 10 minutes ago, first bad thing i seen since i been sober for the first time in almost 4 years, only this time it was by proper choice, not cos i was scared it'd scare off a woman, who i find out thisafternoon kinda agrees that if that was the only time i was ever sober since she's know me for 19 years, that i am an asshole sober
13:10 GuShH someone should violate it with a stick
13:11 rue_house my SSD is acting up
13:11 GuShH you sux
13:11 rue_house my machine didn't want to boot this morning
13:11 GuShH home: are you a Java boy?
13:11 GuShH javadabadababoy
13:11 rue_house I let them sell me a kingston SSD
13:12 home GuShH: not really, I like Python and C++
13:12 home GuShH: don't really like lower level languages much.. >.<
13:12 home unless I have to learn more about how computers work...
13:12 rue_house python dont run on microcontrollers
13:12 rue_house not saying you have to use microcontrollers
13:12 GuShH you should learn C
13:13 rue_house you can buy a rasberry pi to flash an led if you like
13:13 GuShH theBear: I didn't quite catch that, maybe it's because I'm too tired, or too sober.... she doesn't like you when you are sober?
13:13 GuShH you are too bitter?
13:13 GuShH (I'm lagging)
13:13 rue_house theBear, the joke didn't work for you?
13:13 GuShH you can buy a chinese kid to flash an led if you like
13:13 GuShH it's cheaper too
13:14 rue_house I need to go shopping today and 'm not looking forward to it
13:14 rue_house I think my head is gonna explode
13:14 theBear rue_house, i'm still pissed off you started this fucking mess !
13:14 GuShH rue_house: I thought some silly company had a python stack / implementation
13:14 GuShH for some big ass architecture
13:14 GuShH also, look at .net for mcus
13:14 GuShH silly shit.
13:14 GuShH hope it dies
13:15 ShH goes to eat his s
13:15 rue_house theBear, but are you surprised?
13:15 rue_house we will never know how kat deburrs that peice of metal
13:16 theBear GuShH, she always liked me, but the short period i crossed the country (where i still live now) to live out the rest of my life happily with her, i chose to only drink on VERY occasional social situations, and not do ANY kind of drugs EVER... we have never gotten along worse, suffice to say a few short months later i was living on my own in a shitty 3rd world flat, and she had a kid about 9 months later
13:16 theBear not surprised, i said disappointed
13:17 rue_house its some kinda funkey personality incomatibility
13:17 useless you asked me to talk about my project, and then you laid noise all over me
13:18 rue_house I think it usually comes up when I'm being playfull, kat takes something wrong and goes into depression/self-destruction
13:18 useless you were doing 2 lines to my one, and you got faster and faster with it
13:18 rue_house if the noise bothered you , you chould have asked for a mute
13:18 theBear ooh its coming.. seriously, how much er, oxazepam and wine can you have before you die ?
13:19 useless you asked me to talk, i shuld not have needed to ask you to let me
13:19 e_house shakes
13:19 theBear if i'm quick, i could go round the corner, kill that person that made me have such a fucked up week, and steal their drugs, they're mental, they've got a ton of all kindsa shit
13:20 rue_house the I want to hear about what you are making/doing
13:20 useless i need to go throw up, bbl
13:20 rue_house even if it hasn't been anything in a long time
13:21 e_house goes to lay down for a w
13:21 rue_house give in to the throbbing headache
13:24 home back
13:59 theBear heh fuck, there go my motor skills ... i think i just slide off the chair and have a little rest
14:24 ShH pats the
17:49 home Okay
17:49 home I decided what I should try :/
17:49 home I have a red laser
17:50 home I was thinking of tracking it via Kinect, and tilt the thing up and down, as it follows the laser dot...
17:50 home seems simple enough XD
18:03 rue_house heh
18:03 rue_house so, what languge is the library your using with the hardware?
18:03 rue_house kinect interface are c/c++ yes?
18:04 rue_house prolly c++ for that, they would use all sorts of ugly objects for that stuff
18:04 Tom_itx class today?
18:04 rue_house canceled
18:04 Tom_itx i think i'm gonna get a 2560 soon
18:04 Tom_itx is that all the electronics you got?
18:04 rue_house then you can tell me if its any better on windows
18:05 rue_house from what I undderstand the problem is that round() is defined better in linux than windows
18:05 rue_house I suppose windwos just dosn't define it at all
18:05 rue_house anyhow
18:05 Tom_itx why do you need round?
18:05 rue_house round() is used in the buad rate or delay calculations
18:05 Tom_itx hrm
18:06 Tom_itx i thought it was done differently
18:06 rue_house last time I compiled on this machine it worked
18:06 rue_house I had to powercycle last night hwen the power went out
18:06 rue_house no working genorator
18:07 Tom_itx i know i did that somewhere....
18:08 rue_house they do something funny with the definition of round, I tried removing their definiton but they didn't do a proper definition
18:10 Tom_itx you stop for a day and you forget everything
18:10 rue_house you have to admit we cover a wide range of stuff
18:11 Tom_itx my mind was on cnc last
18:11 rue_house I still need to add silkscreening to my list
18:11 Tom_itx that was an acomplishment
18:11 rue_house I wanted to try photomasking/silkscreening pcb resist
18:11 Tom_itx too coarse i think
18:11 rue_house I'm not too sure
18:12 home rue_house: yep,its all c
18:12 rue_house dont forget, my setup on has about 10 thou or so positioning accuracy
18:12 rue_house home, learn C
18:12 home but it has cpp wrappers and python wrappers
18:12 home XD
18:12 rue_house the kinex libraries and examples wont just work tho, start with hello world
18:12 rue_house mhm
18:13 rue_house so you wont be tracking the ball AS it moves,
18:13 rue_house just when its still
18:13 home i am thinking of a laser dot
18:13 home as i move it up and down the wall
18:14 home the kinect tracks it
18:14 home by also movig up nd down >.>
18:14 rue_house have you ever made a computer control a servo?
18:16 home yeah
18:17 rue_house what was the programming interface to the controller in??
18:17 home C++
18:17 home XD
18:17 home used like xx->SetAngle(0), etc
18:17 home used like xx->SetAngle(0);
18:18 rue_house yup, ok
18:18 rue_house what was the servo controller?
18:19 home hmmm servo controller :/, can't remember, except that it was controlled digitally
18:19 home so via PWM :/
18:19 rue_house pc -> hardware->servo
18:19 rue_house just wondering what hardware was
18:21 Tom_L ok so what's on the acomplishment list for this evening?
18:21 home it was an NI crio
18:21 home that my school had >.>
18:23 Tom_L there it is.
18:23 Tom_L #define baud_prescale (F_CPU / 16 / baud-1)
18:24 home Tom_L: what does the constant do :o
18:24 Tom_L instead of round
18:24 Tom_L F_CPU is defined for things like delay functions etc
18:24 Tom_L in the makefile
18:25 Tom_L and is the crystal frequency
18:25 home ah, so if you don't have that, no delays for you?
18:25 Tom_L not accurate ones
18:25 Tom_L #define F_CPU 16000000UL
18:27 rue_house home, so you need to buy a servo controller
18:27 home rue_house: I was wondering if I could use my Arudino :/ hmm
18:27 home I hear they can control servos
18:28 home but honestly :/ I would rather learn how to make my own speed controller, to drive DC motors >.>
18:32 rue_house http://hlt.media.mit.edu/?p=1695
18:33 rue_house gee (bottom) the origional arduino library was pretty thin)
18:33 rue_house home, do you know how to make an H bridge?
18:33 home I don't think I have the capacitors to do it :/
18:33 home I can try Hbridhe chips
18:33 rue_house home, did you even read my article about the audio selector????
18:34 home rue_house: I was busy, didnt see it >.>
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/main.html
18:34 rue_house see it?
18:34 rue_house it outlines something REALLY important to you
18:34 rue_house as a maker
18:35 rue_house its a problem YOU HAVE
18:35 home oh that
18:35 home I read that when you showed it to me before
18:35 home I thought ou wre talking about the mit link :/
18:36 home I didn't read what you said properly
18:36 rue_house your problem is actually a little different
18:36 rue_house you know more than you have ever done
18:36 rue_house your trying to make something out of subcomponents you haven't ever worked with
18:37 rue_house you need to understand how to use a lego brick before you try to build a castle with them
18:37 rue_house and _I_ have to go shoppin
18:38 home :o
18:38 Tom_L oh rue_house
18:38 Tom_L did you see: http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Satellite_writes_in_the_night_sky-article-FANE_Japan_Satellite_Oct2012-html.aspx
20:36 Tom_itx ok rue_house it's on the way
21:28 Tom_itx dammit rue_house you've been shoppin long enough
21:40 useless what i got for $60 (and i will get some of that back Monday) is a cleaner version of this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-Chelsea-PTO-Blackmer-Sliding-Vane-Pump-Shafts-/190451096371 <<== listed at $1000
21:41 useless a 275 gal/minute @ 200 psi stainless steel sliding vane pump : http://www.directindustry.com/prod/blackmer/stainless-steel-rotary-vane-pumps-15554-697953.html
23:07 rue_house hey
23:07 rue_house supper/movie/
23:07 rue_house yes I saw the morse code thing
23:07 rue_house we talked about the 200W
23:08 rue_house $1000!
23:08 rue_house katdid you find a rating?
23:09 rue_house cool
23:09 rue_house farms goin bust over there or soemthing?
23:28 Tom_itx it's been dry
23:28 Tom_itx i'm sure the yield is down
23:52 rue_house so their seelling their pumps?
23:54 Tom_itx does yours use FTDI or 16U2?
23:58 rue_house ?
23:58 rue_house oh the arduino
23:58 rue_house U2
23:59 rue_house which is funny