#robotics Logs

Sep 26 2012

00:13 rue_house the next trick is working out how to mount the display
00:16 katsmeow-afk well, i didn't know yu were fiished with the 120v stuff, i'd slip some shrinkwrap onto the female spade connectors and shrink it down, but leave it loose over the prongs on the walwarts
00:17 katsmeow-afk i don't trust crimps anyhow, i'd have soldered and shrinkwrapped
00:26 rue_house and there we have it, a worth while comment
00:26 rue_house the crimps seem pretty tight, the prongs have holes in them that the dimples of the push ons fall into
00:27 rue_house I did think about them comming loose
00:27 tsmeow-afk
00:28 katsmeow-afk so you didn't want the comment?
00:39 rue_house yes
00:39 rue_house I expect some ridicule for pulling something like that
00:39 rue_house I looked at all my pcb power boards, and decided to use those adapters
00:39 rue_house linear be damned
00:39 katsmeow-afk i've done it before, but i insulated them
00:40 rue_house I'm writing off that side for high voltage
00:40 katsmeow-afk writing it off?
00:40 rue_house I want to put in a metal EMF shield too
00:40 rue_house no low voltage on that side
00:40 rue_house tho I dont know what to do with the power switch
00:40 katsmeow-afk oh
00:40 rue_house 1A supplies, 10W
00:41 rue_house 83mA worst case
00:41 rue_house (120V)
00:41 katsmeow-afk big power contactor, the biggest NEMA you can find
00:42 katsmeow-afk have it slam in 3x before staying n
00:42 rue_house the largest load is the 7 segment at 20mA/segemnt
00:42 rue_house 140mA
00:43 rue_house I suppose I have a pullup resistor at 5mA too
00:43 rue_house which, in that context is significant
00:43 e_house needs a box b
00:44 rue_house I'm going to bed
00:44 katsmeow-afk i shall also
00:48 rue_livingrm gnight
00:48 rue_livingrm ...
00:51 rue_bed so, how to build up an AI
00:51 rue_bed 1) create a medium capable of hosting the inteligence
00:51 rue_bed 2) bootstrap it
00:53 rue_bed so, what are the requirements of an intelligence hosting medium
00:53 katsmeow-afk find a damn programming language that willd o what it takes
00:53 rue_bed I need an actual intelligence
00:53 rue_bed someting that can learn fast enough to make me artificial before I die
00:54 katsmeow-afk so you do not need a programming langauge to bootstrap the ai?
00:54 rue_bed hmm
00:55 rue_bed I dont think its about a program
00:55 rue_bed its about a self stabalizing system
00:55 katsmeow-afk you haveto get it booted, you said so yourself
00:56 rue_bed bootstap it like frankinstien was with lightning
00:56 rue_bed that little kick of random spark that makes the system activate
00:57 rue_bed from there, what it becomes is determined alot by the system itself
00:57 katsmeow-afk k, then stop insulatiig the 120v spade lugs, and work with the computer covers off
00:57 rue_bed :)
00:57 katsmeow-afk i saw Johnny5 too
00:58 rue_bed the universe is like a set of equations that all interact
00:58 rue_bed well, thats not accurate
00:58 rue_bed or is it
00:59 rue_bed language kinda fails that one
00:59 rue_bed what happens if a minds primary language cannot support the minds thoughts
00:59 katsmeow-afk it uses more adjectives
01:00 rue_bed anyhow there is one part that is the defintion of the form of the equations and how they are interperted
01:00 rue_bed then there is the equations themselfs
01:00 rue_bed then there is the medium thats modified by the equations
01:01 rue_bed as equations we modify the medium around us
01:01 rue_bed so, whats an ai to modify
01:02 rue_bed wonder if I can figure it out before I die
01:02 rue_bed need to start working on this in my sleep
01:02 katsmeow-afk i dunno, whatever i say will be wrong
01:03 rue_bed but the rules of physics all go out the window and stuff is simple to do using ways that just do not work in the waking world
01:06 katsmeow-afk you cannot turn on a puter and fry it with lightning and expect it to be an Ai
02:09 rue_bed hmm
04:22 tarptrialer sup guys
04:28 tarptrialer thats nice
06:35 tarptrialer is it always this quiet?
08:45 GuShH furrywolf: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/19269353#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa
08:45 GuShH I think it's great.
08:59 rue_house no, when everyone is awake, sometimes people say things
09:05 Guest74817 and now
09:05 tarptrialer everyone is sleeping?
09:06 rue_house yup
09:07 rue_house I'm just waking up and getting ready to go to work
09:07 GuShH rue_house: uhh I woke up with a blank mind... what do you call the linear "bearings" that have little spheres inside that go 'round?
09:08 GuShH :( I'm drawing blanks all day long today
09:08 rue_house just linear bearings...
09:08 rue_house ball races?
09:08 GuShH the really expensive ones
09:08 rue_house dont think they have a specific name
09:08 GuShH instead of using a threaded rod you'd use them for precision
09:08 rue_house oh, you mean ball screws
09:09 GuShH yes!
09:09 rue_house their not for side load tho
09:11 rue_house GuShH, just think what they would do to flyback
09:11 GuShH rue_house: o.o
09:11 rue_house prolly just go straight for execution
09:11 GuShH HAHAHAHAHA
09:11 GuShH flyback better not step into the UK!
09:11 ShH wipes
09:12 GuShH oh god
09:12 rptrialer faps furio
09:12 rue_house :)
09:16 GuShH tarptrialer: ok?
09:17 tarptrialer what
09:17 GuShH we just heard you call out for your mom, so you must be done
09:18 tarptrialer keine
10:56 Tom_itx ball screws
10:57 GuShH tourettes?
10:58 Tom_itx for what?
11:01 GuShH random fest
11:07 GuShH holy crap, twin cylinder chainsaws! do want!
12:10 katsmeow-afk Guanabara bay will host both rowing and sailing when the Olympics arrive in Rio in 2016. But the bay is contaminated by sewage. Brazil's olympic yachtswomen hopefuls Isabel Swann and Martine Grael say at times the water is more like spinach soup.
15:28 katsmeow-afk Sept. 26, 2012 - A Texas soldier has been charged with manslaughter after he allegedly killed his friend while reportedly waving around his gun to scare him and rid the friend of the hiccups. Myers told police that he pointed a gun at Young to scare him and cure him of the hiccups, believing that there were dummy bullets in the gun, according to Killeen police.
15:34 katsmeow-afk "Our finding that suicide now accounts for more deaths than do traffic crashes echoes similar findings for the European Union, Canada, and China," Rockett's group noted.
17:09 katsmeow-afk Youth evangelist Matt Pitt, founder of The Basement, pleaded guilty Wednesday to attempting to impersonate a peace officer.
17:14 katsmeow-afk NEW YORK (AP) - A Chinese national was charged Wednesday in U.S. court with trying to broker an illegal deal for large quantities of a restricted high-tech material for military purposes, but prosecutors refused to say where and when he was arrested.
17:14 katsmeow-afk The silence gave an air of mystery to a case arising from rarely publicized efforts by the United States to curtail the black market in carbon fiber.
17:18 katsmeow-afk VAUGHN, N.M. (AP) - The police chief of the small eastern New Mexico town of Vaughn resigned Wednesday, leaving the town with just one certified member on its police force - a drug-sniffing dog named Nikka.
17:18 katsmeow-afk Dave Romero, attorney for the town, said Wednesday that police Chief Ernest "Chris" Armijo decided to step down after news stories reported that he wasn't allowed to carry a gun because of his criminal background.
17:18 katsmeow-afk According to records, the only qualified member of the Vaughn Police Department is Nikka, a drug-sniffing dog. Vaughn's other officer isn't certified and pleaded guilty to charges of assault and battery last year.
17:19 katsmeow-afk it is unknown if the dog can drive the town's only police cruiser, or if it will be walking a patrol beat
17:19 ace4016 lol
19:27 GuShH theBear: so the animated series is actually made with the same actors as the movie... pretty cool
19:36 rue_house rest for a bit, then work on putting a screen on my audio selector
19:39 Tom_itx why is your reprap on hold now?
19:46 rue_house no I was just able to compile the firmware on my mmain desktop
19:46 rue_house so I'll re-do ALL the changes and compile it again
19:46 rue_house bets 10:1 it wont compile next week
19:49 Tom_itx bets it would here
19:49 rue_house I have the first version of the code that wil compile under arduino 1.01
19:50 Tom_itx i've got both installed
19:52 rue_house wan tot get me audio selector finished tho
19:52 rue_house it was going to be a one night project
20:43 theBear GuShH, hooray ! now i just gotta get home sober enough to type one day :)
20:43 GuShH o.o
20:44 GuShH one can be sober enough?
20:45 GuShH Well, If my glass stays empty for another minute I'll begin to believe that!
20:45 theBear :)
20:53 katsmeow-afk ice wear
22:22 rue_shop3 hahahahahahhahhahahah
22:22 rue_shop3 hahaha
22:22 rue_shop3 the buttons are labeled 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
22:22 rue_shop3 The 8 to binary chip outputs
22:22 rue_shop3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
22:22 rue_shop3 hahahahahah
22:23 rue_shop3 hmm
22:23 rue_shop3 how do I make 0 look like 8...
22:24 rue_shop3 with an AND gate to the 4th data pin?
22:25 rue_shop3 nand
22:25 rue_shop3 0 0 0 = 1
22:25 rue_shop3 no
22:25 rue_shop3 nor
22:25 rue_shop3 0 0 0 = 1
22:25 rue_shop3 1 x x = 0
22:25 rue_shop3 x 1 x = 0
22:25 rue_shop3 x x 1 = 0
22:25 rue_shop3 nor
22:26 rue_shop3 whats a cmos 3 input nor
22:26 Tom_itx 4001
22:26 rue_shop3 4002 is 4 input
22:26 Tom_itx 4000
22:27 rue_shop3 you were close tom, give up now
22:28 Tom_itx 74ls27
22:28 katsmeow-afk 08
22:28 katsmeow-afk no, too many diodes
22:28 katsmeow-afk 32
22:28 rue_shop3 I'm goint o ignore this error, and if anyone asks why, when you press 5, 4 comes up on the display, I'll explain is a human-machine translation error
22:29 rue_shop3 "your just not udnerstanding the meanign of 5"
22:29 Tom_itx wrong answer
22:31 rue_shop3 I'm going to finish this project damnit
22:31 rue_shop3 nomatter how many problems accumulate along the way
22:32 katsmeow-afk 74ls133
22:32 katsmeow-afk 74ls30
22:33 katsmeow-afk if all the outside segments come on, lite the middle one also
22:33 rue_shop3 The comment "You dont have the balls to finish this round of golf" required some explanation.
22:33 katsmeow-afk prolly did
22:35 katsmeow-afk out at the skeet range, so did "you've shot your last wad, old man" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadcutter)
22:36 katsmeow-afk <cough>
22:36 rue_shop3 usually half way thru a game I have to start looking in the bush for spares
22:56 rue_house kat
22:56 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/p1040626.jpg
22:57 rue_house display and keybaord
22:57 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/p1040629.jpg
22:57 rue_house used a 90 degree socket for the display
22:57 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/p1040630.jpg
22:57 rue_house channel 0!
22:57 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/projects/audioswitch/p1040632.jpg
23:00 katsmeow-afk you gave me a wonderful idea
23:00 rue_house do tell
23:01 rue_house I'm kinda sad, I just realized tonight I have an old 16 port 10Mbit 1U rackmount hub I could have used to make it
23:01 katsmeow-afk i can use the front panel pushbuttons off the 300 cable boxes, line them up vertically and horizontally, to make an in-out switch matrix
23:01 rue_house :)
23:01 rue_house how many switches are on the front of the cable boxen?
23:01 katsmeow-afk i forget, 14 i think
23:01 rue_house I should show you my old cross-switch face design, it was brilliant (if you ask me)
23:01 rue_house wow, cool
23:02 katsmeow-afk 8 in and 8 out should do it
23:02 katsmeow-afk in a 1/2 rack width, i think should work
23:02 katsmeow-afk maybe it won't work
23:03 katsmeow-afk i could just do 16-wide across the top, and horiz lines to the outputs
23:03 katsmeow-afk i don't have 16 audio sourses any more tho
23:04 katsmeow-afk or 8 thinks that take input
23:05 katsmeow-afk preamp , reel-to-reel, .............. ok, that's it
23:59 rue_house :)
23:59 rue_house add a computer