#robotics Logs
Sep 21 2012
#robotics Calendar
09:03 rue_house }:( after 45 days, ebay deletes all traces of a purchase, even if you didn't recieve it
09:04 rue_house and wont let you submit an item not recieved
09:04 rue_house and they have no day counter displayed
09:12 rue_house hahaha, I been buying 1 item/day, sometimes extra, and for some reason ebay only shows 40 items in the last "60 days"
09:14 rue_house ebay will not recieve problem reports about the system in any way other than by phone
09:20 rue_house http://announcements.ebay.com/tag/three-years-of-purchase-history/ <--- lie
09:21 sw0rdfish hey rue_house
09:27 rue_house hey
09:27 rue_house rue goes to work now
09:29 sw0rdfish ok rue_house have fun!
17:15 katsmeow-afk http://imgur.com/r/pics/EEYmS
17:25 katsmeow-afk "One of the biggest features of the company's new iOS 6 operating system is a new Maps app. However, the biggest complaint from users who updated to the new system is that that maps app." there's a "that that maps" app too?
19:51 rue_house your all allowed to talk while I'm gone
20:06 rue_house katsmeow-afk, she shouldn't hold up the planet like that, she will throw out her back
20:21 katsmeow-afk it looks like a difficult workout
20:29 rue_house wonder if I can gets the cats in today
20:30 rue_house I really need sleep
20:31 home heey
20:31 katsmeow-afk ack! the home is talking!
20:32 home been awhile
20:32 home hmm
20:32 home so whats new?
20:33 katsmeow-afk not much here
20:33 katsmeow-afk couple dogs killed a guy
20:34 katsmeow-afk what's new in Ontario?
20:36 rue_house the chip all these usb sound cards are based on dosn't have a line in
20:36 rue_house unless you add another adc, which nobody did
20:37 rue_house kat, can I put a 10" cutting disk on a normal chop saw?
20:37 home Ontario? Teachers are on strike, for having their funding cut.
20:37 home They are protesting by cancelling all extracurricular activities
20:37 rue_house (again)
20:37 katsmeow-afk yeas
20:38 rue_house cool
20:38 katsmeow-afk mind the arbor size and shape
20:38 home You guys have tools
20:38 rue_house that will speed up cutting a few hundred slots in pipe
20:38 home I only got like
20:38 home a kinect (borrowing) an ethernet camera, a raspberry pi and an arduino
20:38 rue_house you only need a multimeter and side cutters
20:38 home and a wrt54g router
20:38 katsmeow-afk i keep an abrasive disk, 60tooth carbide, and rip disk for my 10"
20:39 home doing vision stuff :/
20:39 katsmeow-afk plastic pipe?
20:39 rue_house steel
20:39 rue_house 2"
20:39 katsmeow-afk ouch
20:39 rue_house making those rings
20:39 rue_house screw bending them
20:39 rue_house home, http://www.ebay.ca/itm/150Mbps-300Mbps-USB-Wifi-Wireless-Adapter-Lan-Network-Internet-Card-w-Antenna-/330790394117?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item7dbf5d618f
20:40 katsmeow-afk see if you can disable the back-emf brake that slows the disk when you let the trigger go, so many cuts will prolly burn it up, see if you can make one that lasts longer
20:40 katsmeow-afk heavier resistor, for instance
20:40 rue_house I'll slot the pipe (90% thru) every 8" and bend/weld
20:40 katsmeow-afk only an 1/8 slot every 8" ?
20:41 rue_house every 8" a .3" slot
20:41 katsmeow-afk umm, you got a cutting disk for steep .3 thick?
20:41 rue_house well .297 and .272 for the middle ring
20:41 rue_house I can tip the saw
20:41 katsmeow-afk k
20:41 home what are you makig?
20:41 home making?
20:41 rue_house a 12' mecha
20:42 home Proove it
20:42 rue_house for now, just the control cage
20:42 rue_house !assist robots/sparrow1/
20:42 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/
20:42 rue_house !assist robots/sparrow1/
20:42 rue_house hmm
20:42 tsmeow-afk watches rue feed crow to the
20:43 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1040018.jpg << thats an ABS mockup of the robot
20:43 rue_house wanted to know how big a 12' mecha is
20:43 home ...
20:44 rue_house definitly bigger standing than laying down
20:44 rue_house see the tent in the background?
20:44 katsmeow-afk well, yeas, laying down it's only 3" tall
20:44 rue_house thats 1/2 the construction tent
20:44 rue_house I have to make another one at somepoint
20:45 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/ballbot.png
20:45 rue_house the control cage is gonna be an interesting build
20:45 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/lg_puppet_master_locatornaming.jpg
20:45 rue_house most of the work has already been done by others, I just have to assemble
20:46 home Whats the point 0_0
20:46 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1030901.jpg
20:46 ace4016 animation rigs
20:47 rue_house the hand is pretty big too, esp considering that isn't even to the bottom of the wrist
20:47 rue_house home, a) I can reach the gutters easier to clean them out
20:47 rue_house b) I can reach the windows easier to clean them
20:47 rue_house c) trimming th hedges is easier
20:48 rue_house d) mecha holding address at end of driveway = awesome house number
20:48 rue_house e) moving alot of stuff is easier when your 12' tall
20:49 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1040015.jpg
20:49 katsmeow-afk f) if someone tries to steal the house number again, it can fight back
20:49 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1040020.jpg
20:49 rue_house I was gonna mock up the control rings, not sure if I'll bother finishing
20:50 rue_house :)
20:50 katsmeow-afk some things are too simple, or the mockup is too pricey
20:50 rue_house http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1040047.jpg
20:50 home There are much easier way to do things, all that you mentioned
20:50 rue_house the abs mockup is pretty accurate, as it turns out the frame pipe I have is exactly the same size
20:51 home For example, building a sentry gun... to ward off unknown invaders
20:51 rue_house but instead of building a bunch of things I just have to make one
20:51 katsmeow-afk is someone invading?
20:51 rue_house not that I know of
20:51 rue_house not til october anyhow
20:51 katsmeow-afk gattling gun is a really loud tool to clean gutters with
20:52 rue_house yea, and then you have to empty all the lead out of the drain
20:52 katsmeow-afk or the neighbor's house
20:53 rue_house the advantage being you can do the gutters on both sides of the house at the same time?
20:54 rue_house I'm sure the neighbours would understand about the noise if you expalined you were just blowing out the gutters
20:54 katsmeow-afk 80mm howitser
20:55 rue_house cover more area at once, yes
20:55 rue_house you could run it down lengthwise to push everything out
20:56 katsmeow-afk yeas
20:56 rue_house my gutter zigzags around the house, but I'm sure it wouldn't mind fixing that
20:56 Tom_itx rue_house, you ever mess with drupal?
20:56 rue_house never heard of it
20:57 Tom_itx there's a switch
20:57 katsmeow-afk it's a thing Tom wants to know about
20:58 Tom_itx i think it lets you manage php better?
20:58 katsmeow-afk i used php, but didn't use drupal
20:59 Tom_itx http://drupal.org/
21:01 rue_house better?
21:01 rue_house hmm content managemnt
21:02 Tom_itx http://drupal.org/project/bot
21:02 rue_house i try to clip out middlemen, not add them
21:02 Tom_itx that was my reason for asking
21:02 rue_house php should not be used for that
21:03 Tom_itx how come?
21:03 rue_house its not meant to be a realtime language
21:03 rue_house its got too much overhead
21:03 rue_house nowonder people think that 3Ghz processors are slow
21:03 katsmeow-afk it canbe horribly slow
21:04 rue_house using stuff like that to try to make realtime apps
21:04 katsmeow-afk it is one of the first to be allowed on http servers, and it has legacy
21:05 katsmeow-afk but even a modern Basic will run circles around php for speed
21:06 rue_house php is meant for sticking serverside script into webpages
21:06 katsmeow-afk served by apache
21:07 home I like Python
21:07 home and django XD
21:07 katsmeow-afk oh damn, someone is going to steal "my" 500Mhs scope for $150
21:08 katsmeow-afk it's worth $400 easy, it's has plugins, i can't afford it :-(
21:08 katsmeow-afk and don't *need* it
21:08 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/160882013919?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
21:08 m_itx decides just to sit and do not
21:08 katsmeow-afk it has high speed screen in it too
21:09 katsmeow-afk guy has amplifiers in the timebase slots and vice versa
21:09 katsmeow-afk but the mainframe works
21:09 rue_house wont work after shipping
21:09 rue_house yo might say it'll be too "broken up"
21:10 tsmeow-afk sighs sadly and waves bye t
21:11 e_house catches himself nodding off a
21:11 katsmeow-afk you can't knod off while a $15,000 scope sells for $150
21:11 rue_house kat, can you find me a wall mount monitor swing arm in canada?
21:12 katsmeow-afk the 7904 , 7104, 78xx were the backbone of the usa space and nuke research
21:12 katsmeow-afk i'm too sad
21:13 tsmeow-afk hugs the $20 7903 500Mhz scope she got for
21:20 katsmeow-afk is seattle Wash usa close enough?
21:20 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LITE-SPECIALTY-METAL-WORKS-ARTICULATING-WALL-MOUNT-MONITOR-SUPPORT-ARM-USA-/330716312400?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d003a7350
21:21 rue_house ships to usa only
21:21 katsmeow-afk maybe he doesn't know how to ship to Canadia, i didn't
21:24 katsmeow-afk can you just bolt a http://www.ebay.com/itm/300708891473 to the ceiling with some emt (cables inside) hanging down to the monitor?
21:25 katsmeow-afk move it all around with 3 servoes?
21:25 katsmeow-afk or 2 servoes?
21:26 katsmeow-afk or this ball joint ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-FAIRLANE-UPPER-BALL-JOINT-62-63-64-65-66-67-68-69-/110953910589?hash=item19d55e513d&item=110953910589&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
21:27 katsmeow-afk ...
21:33 katsmeow-afk Medicine Prize: Emmanuel Ben-Soussan and Michel Antonietti (France) for advising doctors who perform colonoscopies how to minimise the chance that their patients will explode.
21:33 rue_house Shipping:
21:33 rue_house Not Available to Canada
21:33 theBear err, explosion is common during colonoscopie ?
21:33 katsmeow-afk Literature Prize: The US Government General Accountability Office for issuing a report about reports about reports that recommends the preparation of a report about the report about reports about reports.
21:34 rue_house I was wondering if I could make ball joints like...
21:34 rue_house (from ball bearings)
21:34 katsmeow-afk Neuroscience Prize: Craig Bennett, Abigail Baird, Michael Miller, and George Wolford (US) for demonstrating that brain researchers, by using complicated instruments and simple statistics, can see meaningful brain activity anywhere - even in a dead salmon.
21:34 theBear lol
21:35 katsmeow-afk math is always right, that dead salmon is thinking right now!
21:35 rue_house http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Electronics-Soldering-THIRD-HELPING-HAND-Alligator-Clip-HOLDER-Magnifier-8-Joint-/230684011506?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b5d6abf2
21:35 rue_house maybe I could cast my own balls and make brackets to tightly clamp them
21:35 theBear i gotta say, that doesn't feel like literature or neuroscience
21:35 theBear hehe
21:36 katsmeow-afk Chemistry - Mayu Yamamoto, from Japan, for developing a method to extract vanilla fragrance and flavouring from cow dung.
21:36 katsmeow-afk Linguistics - A University of Barcelona team for showing that rats are unable to tell the difference between a person speaking Japanese backwards and somebody speaking Dutch backwards.
21:36 theBear does kinda make you wonder what brain researchers are measuring on live people
21:36 theBear rofl
21:36 katsmeow-afk Peace - The US Air Force Wright Laboratory for instigating research and development on a chemical weapon that would provoke widespread homosexual behaviour among enemy troops.
21:36 theBear thank god, had we not known about those rats something could have gone horribly wrong
21:37 katsmeow-afk Aviation - A National University of Quilmes, Argentina, team for discovering that impotency drugs can help hamsters to recover from jet lag.
21:37 theBear oooh, party-drug bombs ? i could get into that
21:37 e_bed foolishly tries to initiate a sleep cycle by going to
21:38 Tom_itx rue_bed, dream about all the stuff you didn't finish today
21:38 Tom_itx maybe that will help
21:38 katsmeow-afk the discovery that the presence of humans tends to sexually arouse ostriches
21:39 rue_bed its all those peckers
21:39 katsmeow-afk in 2006 a study showing that one of the malaria mosquitoes (Anopheles gambiae) is attracted equally to the smell of Limburger cheese and the smell of human feet
21:40 katsmeow-afk Chemistry – Jacques Benveniste, prolific proselytizer and dedicated correspondent of Nature, for his persistent "discovery" that water, H2O, is an intelligent liquid, and for demonstrating to his satisfaction that water is able to remember events long after all traces of those events have vanished
21:41 rue_bed how thick do you think the plate would have to be to clamp balls with enough force to hold up a monitor?
21:41 katsmeow-afk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ig_Nobel_Prize_winners
21:41 theBear rue_bed, look in a bank/pos
21:42 katsmeow-afk better question is how will you read what's on the monitor hanging tween your legs?
21:42 rue_bed no, its adjustable
21:42 rue_bed you can move it to anywhere
21:42 katsmeow-afk umm, ok
21:43 rue_bed or the other thought is a balanced arm
21:43 katsmeow-afk or the extendable arm haging from a ball joint, and positioned by servoes operating a inverted tripod of thin pink cord
21:44 rue_bed well I was gonna try to keep it a bit simple for now
21:45 katsmeow-afk Entomology – Presented to Robert A. Lopez of Westport, NY, valiant veterinarian and friend of all creatures great and small, for his series of experiments in obtaining ear mites from cats, inserting them into his own ear, and carefully observing and analyzing the results.
21:45 theBear hehe
21:46 katsmeow-afk Physics – Presented to The Japanese Meteorological Agency, for its seven-year study of whether earthquakes are caused by catfish wiggling their tails.
21:48 katsmeow-afk Medicine – Presented to Marcia E. Buebel, David S. Shannahoff-Khalsa, and Michael R. Boyle, for their study entitled "The Effects of Unilateral Forced Nostril Breathing on Cognition."
21:48 katsmeow-afk aka "can you think clearly while i blow up your nose?"
21:49 katsmeow-afk Biology – Presented jointly to Anders Barheim and Hogne Sandvik of the University of Bergen, Norway, for their report, "Effect of Ale, Garlic, and Soured Cream on the Appetite of Leeches."
21:49 katsmeow-afk Chemistry – Presented to George Goble of Purdue University, for his blistering world record time for igniting a barbecue grill: three seconds, using charcoal and liquid oxygen
21:53 theBear noone has blown up my nose for years :(
21:53 katsmeow-afk Meteorology – Presented to Bernard Vonnegut of the State University of New York at Albany, for his report, "Chicken Plucking as Measure of Tornado Wind Speed."
21:54 theBear heh, i like that one
21:55 katsmeow-afk Computer Science – Presented to Chris Niswander of Tucson, Arizona, for inventing PawSense, software that detects when a cat is walking across your computer keyboard.
21:57 home 0_0
21:57 home boss
21:58 katsmeow-afk Physics – Presented to Jack Harvey, John Culvenor, Warren Payne, Steve Cowle, Michael Lawrance, David Stuart, and Robyn Williams of Australia, for their irresistible report "An analysis of the forces required to drag sheep over various surfaces"
22:00 katsmeow-afk Psychology – Presented jointly to Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else – even a woman in a gorilla suit
22:01 katsmeow-afk Economics – Presented to Gauri Nanda of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, for inventing Clocky, an alarm clock that runs away and hides, repeatedly, thus ensuring that people get out of bed, and thus theoretically adding many productive hours to the workday.
22:01 katsmeow-afk unless there'sa woman in a gorilla suit iin the way
22:01 katsmeow-afk dragging a sheep around
22:01 katsmeow-afk Fluid Dynamics – Presented jointly to Victor Benno Meyer-Rochow of International University Bremen, Germany and the University of Oulu, Finland; and József Gál of Loránd Eötvös University, Hungary, for using basic principles of physics to calculate the pressure that builds up inside a penguin, as detailed in their report "Pressures Produced When Penguins Poo—Calculations on Avian Defecation"
22:02 katsmeow-afk Peace – Presented jointly to Claire Rind and Peter Simmons of University of Newcastle, in the UK, for electrically monitoring the activity of a brain cell in a locust while that locust was watching selected highlights from the movie Star Wars
22:04 katsmeow-afk Medicine: Francis M. Fesmire of the University of Tennessee College of Medicine, for his medical case report "Termination of Intractable Hiccups with Digital Rectal Massage" ,, aka, "i'll take the massager out of your anus when you quit hiccupping"
22:05 katsmeow-afk Literature: Ireland's police service for writing and presenting more than 50 traffic tickets to a Polish individual, by the name of "Prawo Jazdy". Mr. "Jazdy" was widely thought to be the most frequent driving offender in Ireland, until an investigation uncovered the fact that Prawo Jazdy is the Polish term for "Driving License"
22:06 katsmeow-afk Engineering: Karina Acevedo-Whitehouse and Agnes Rocha-Gosselin of the Zoological Society of London, UK, and Diane Gendron of Instituto Politecnico Nacional, Baja California Sur, Mexico, for perfecting a method to collect whale snot, using a remote-control helicopter
22:07 theBear remote control helicopter... it was SO OBVIOUS !
22:08 katsmeow-afk i'd have thought the whale snot was too heavy
22:09 katsmeow-afk strangely, it's still used in perfumes
22:09 theBear oh ambergrys eh ? that's not really snot tho
22:09 katsmeow-afk phlegm
22:09 katsmeow-afk mucus
22:10 theBear indeed
22:10 theBear i think of snot more as post mucus stage
22:10 theBear plus, i'm not sure whales have noses
22:11 katsmeow-afk still, the juxtaposition of scientific titles and prestigeous institutions, whals snot, and remote control helicopters
22:12 theBear indeed, IF nothing else (and there are something elses) all those categories just feel blatantly inappropriate
22:36 katsmeow-afk ...
22:38 tsmeow-afk wonders, when opening a folder with millions of files in it, she can't move the waving flashlite icon ar
22:51 katsmeow-afk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19669389
23:04 katsmeow-afk gnites
23:05 theBear cya