#robotics Logs
Aug 31 2012
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00:13 rue_house I was taking photos for a howto on storing gasoline in a lightbulb
00:13 rue_house and sleeping, I did a lot of sleeping
00:14 katsmeow-afk umm,ok
00:16 rue_house huh, this trip ad says they include air, thats good, its bulky to have to take along on ones own
00:34 katsmeow-afk got all 6 big heatsinks wired: http://designerthinking.com/images/benchpsu/DSCF2948m.jpg
00:37 katsmeow-afk "Millions of Black Holes Spotted" ...... if no light escapes a black hole, how do you know it's spotted? it could just as well be checkered
00:52 rue_house lack of light
00:55 katsmeow-afk not too bright?
00:55 katsmeow-afk why would you store gasoline in a light bulb?
00:57 rue_house http://hackaday.com/2012/04/25/homebrew-solder-pot-is-too-dangerous-even-for-us/
00:58 rue_house search for the word lightbulb
00:58 katsmeow-afk one nice thing about having the pics on the puter, is i can look at http://designerthinking.com/images/benchpsu/DSCF2948m.jpg without having my desk cluttered and i can reach the keybd
00:59 rue_house coool
01:00 katsmeow-afk what's cool?
01:00 rue_house your making tonnes of progress
01:01 katsmeow-afk but i gave that url an hr ago
01:01 rue_house I wasn't here an hour ago
01:01 rue_house !assist tutorials/mech/gasbulb/
01:01 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/mech/gasbulb/
01:02 katsmeow-afk http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/mech/gasbulb/main.html
01:02 katsmeow-afk it's not on hackaday
01:03 rue_house not yet no
01:03 rue_house I shall submit it tho
01:03 katsmeow-afk damnit, no wonder i cannot find my ruler, you have it
01:04 rue_house ooops, sorry
01:05 katsmeow-afk "...using the edge OR a file."?
01:07 rue_house just fixing that
01:08 katsmeow-afk ya know, melty glass containers sell well as art, iirc
01:09 rue_house :) I was gonna just call it art after the edge reflow failed
01:09 rue_house meh
01:33 katsmeow-afk $1.80 each ; 50Mhz ; ARM ; http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/LPC1114FN28%2F102,12/LPC1114FN28%2F102,12-ND/3430860?WT.z_cid=ref_octopart_dkc_buynow&cur=USD
01:33 katsmeow-afk http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/LPC111X.pdf
01:33 katsmeow-afk 32-bit ARM Cortex-M0 microcontroller; up to 64 kB flash and
01:33 katsmeow-afk 8 kB SRAM
01:33 katsmeow-afk Rev. 7.4 — 30 July 2012
01:33 katsmeow-afk The peripheral complement of the LPC1110/11/12/13/14/15 includes up to 64 kB of flash
01:33 katsmeow-afk memory, up to 8 kB of data memory, one Fast-mode Plus I2C-bus interface, one
01:33 katsmeow-afk RS-485/EIA-485 UART, up to two SPI interfaces with SSP features, four general purpose
01:33 katsmeow-afk counter/timers, a 10-bit ADC, and up to 42 general purpose I/O pins.
01:34 katsmeow-afk freaking $1.80 from Digikey !
01:35 katsmeow-afk comes in SO20, TSSOP20 TSSOP28 DIP28(!!) HVQFN24/33 and LQFP48 packages
01:38 katsmeow-afk problem as i see it is : they can't be used as easily as a C64/VIC20 , because they need a linux OS, which eats all the memory
01:50 rue_livingrm why not make the os from ttl gates
01:50 rue_livingrm the acutal circuit IS the os
02:11 katsmeow-afk .
02:12 katsmeow-afk i wonder why people think "8bit cpu, gotta limit it to 64k or less of ram"
02:12 katsmeow-afk or "it's 30Mhz, lets limit it to the slowest serial microSD cards available"
02:13 katsmeow-afk or "this lil pcb does a ton of things, but has only 3 i/o pins to connect to your robot"
04:03 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: because it's all about market segmentation!
04:04 GuShH_ diversify your products.
04:04 GuShH_ and when it comes to that, you'll find stupid limitations on all products but the very high-end units
04:39 Tom_itx http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Angry_faced_robots_make_mean_noodles-article-fajb_robot_chefs_aug2012-html.aspx
04:43 Tom_itx http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Researchers_create_lightest_material-article-olrc01_kiel_sep2012-html.aspx
04:52 GuShH_ crazy germans
06:10 GuShH_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1l_0J8g6w0
06:10 ShH_ r
06:16 chris_99 hehe
06:17 GuShH_ seriously I'm sick of the free energy retards...
06:18 chris_99 i don't understand why theres so many
06:21 elektrinis many retards, or many free energy retards?
06:22 chris_99 many free energy people
06:23 GuShH_ :/
06:23 GuShH_ chris_99: due to the promise of becoming the world's richest bastard
06:24 chris_99 heh i guess so
07:16 delinquentme http://imgur.com/a/7BHQI << hey guys I need something like this
07:16 delinquentme something of an anchor
07:16 delinquentme that I can epoxy into a part
07:16 delinquentme which has a flange ... and is internally threaded
07:16 delinquentme know what the name is?
07:19 ShH_ wonders how much delinquentme paid for the lice
07:20 delinquentme GuShH_: what are they called?
07:20 ShH_ would personally spend the money on lathes, mills... you could buy a lot with a full SW lic
07:21 ShH_ wouldn't mind using paper from ther
07:24 delinquentme Oh you're not talking about the anchor which I posted up
07:25 GuShH_ I'm talking about your solidworks license.
07:25 delinquentme why?
07:26 GuShH_ Why not?
07:26 delinquentme specifically because its not helpful
07:26 GuShH_ it's clear you don't have one
07:28 delinquentme GuShH_: thanks for being a troll
07:28 delinquentme like what do I say?
07:28 GuShH_ thanks for being a thief then
07:28 delinquentme you're a dick? mind your own business? its non profit work?
07:28 delinquentme wtf do you want me to say?
07:28 GuShH_ thief, no, lies.
07:28 GuShH_ delinquentme: If you ask vague questions you'll get vague answers to begin with.
07:28 delinquentme sure GuShH_
07:29 delinquentme GuShH_: it wasnt a fucking vague question
07:29 delinquentme it was heres a model ... wtf are these called
07:29 delinquentme now stfu
07:29 GuShH_ It was, and no need to use insults.
07:29 delinquentme or do something helpful
07:29 delinquentme you're being insulting
07:29 GuShH_ How about you crawl back to your mom's basement?
07:29 delinquentme and you're fucking wasting my time
07:29 delinquentme sure
07:29 GuShH_ I'm being "insulting" because I point out a fact?
07:30 GuShH_ If you get so defensive, it's because you're hiding it.
07:30 GuShH_ Next time don't boast illegal software like that, crop out the screenshot.
07:30 GuShH_ Your question is vague because you don't mention materials or application, just that you'd like to use epoxi to glue it
07:31 delinquentme GuShH_: application changes nothing about the hardware.
07:31 GuShH_ What you want are called inserts, the anchoring design varies upon the materials and requirements.
07:32 GuShH_ delinquentme: you are about the most retarded person I've stumbled upon today, congratulations on that sir.
07:32 GuShH_ you don't deserve anyone's help or time, suck it.
07:32 delinquentme now. is your time so invaluable that you'd rather get into the shit that we just went through when all of that BS could have been skipped with a FYI and a " inserts "?
07:32 delinquentme ditto.
07:33 GuShH_ Except I've got the answers, you don't.
07:33 GuShH_ Morals dude, and I don't like liars, assholes, dipshits.
07:33 GuShH_ Even if it makes me look like one by lowering myself to your level, you are the real deal.
07:33 delinquentme god how do i ignore you!?
07:34 GuShH_ You know it would've been easier if you just said "It's cracked, but I'm using it for learning purposes"
07:34 GuShH_ "because I can't afford it"
07:34 delinquentme GuShH_: its a student version and im using it for fuck you purposes.
07:34 delinquentme I've got the full version for basically what you said
07:34 delinquentme and i onw a student lisence
07:34 GuShH_ delinquentme: let's see, how come you get to ask questions and I don't?
07:34 delinquentme there are you happy female?
07:34 GuShH_ are you paying me?
07:34 delinquentme go fucking gossip elsewhere
07:34 GuShH_ I'm a guy by the way, but why does it matter
07:35 delinquentme GuShH_: act like one
07:35 GuShH_ So I should kick your skull in?
07:35 delinquentme please do
07:36 delinquentme add me on facebook and we can internet fist fight about who would win in a "street fight"
07:36 delinquentme kk awesome idea.
07:36 GuShH_ I don't use facebook
07:36 GuShH_ So look into square metal threaded inserts and stand-offs, then go eat shit.
07:36 GuShH_ Are we friends now?
07:37 delinquentme close enough
07:37 delinquentme =]
07:38 GuShH_ The application matters as well as the materials involved, for obvious reasons.
07:39 delinquentme it needs mild vibration resistance as its used for a orbtial shaker ... rooted into a concrete block .. but under no more than 20 lbs of compression force
07:41 GuShH_ depending on the size I'd just get the right type of steel and weld it together.
07:43 delinquentme http://i.imgur.com/FWrOO.png
07:44 delinquentme anchors which need to fit in the highlighted spaces ... and need to have open threads both above and below.
07:44 GuShH_ also look into available parts libraries.... such as there are standard threads and nuts, there are inserts.
07:44 GuShH_ you have hot press fit, cold...
07:45 ShH_ notices the time and p
07:48 delinquentme so if I dont have access to metal working equipment
07:48 delinquentme I was thinking epoxying it in
07:52 delinquentme im using the threads to adjust feet on the machine too ... so the threads cant be the locking part of the mechanism
07:57 GuShH_ what are you polishing, washing, mixing?
07:57 ShH_ hopes it's a
07:58 chris_99 haha
07:59 delinquentme oh just building a shaker
07:59 delinquentme really simple and all the running code is already done
08:00 delinquentme so the hardware is all thats left
08:00 GuShH_ delinquentme: I got just the thing for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1YXcD0njts
08:01 delinquentme haha
08:01 delinquentme so this is actually an extension of someone elses design
08:01 delinquentme scaled up a bit
08:01 delinquentme http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5045
08:01 delinquentme chris_99: howdy :D
08:01 chris_99 hey
08:11 GuShH_ well, this may be my last day on earth... found an old piece of blue cheese in the fridge!
08:12 ShH_ did what anyone would've
08:13 katsmeow-afk delinquentme : http://www.google.com/search?q=%22pipe+flange%22&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&biw=962&bih=474&sei=rrVAUMnQF4v68QT6l4CwDA
08:13 GuShH_ a pipe flange won't bite onto anything without modifications
08:14 GuShH_ delinquentme: isn't it cheaper to get a chinese sander and modify it instead
08:15 katsmeow-afk delinquentme, are you going to drill a hole in concrete and insert that into the hole?
08:15 katsmeow-afk and why?
08:16 GuShH_ needs mass, concrete is cheap
08:16 GuShH_ used in washing machines as an example.
08:16 katsmeow-afk so is a bag of readymix, no drillbits needed
08:16 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: whatever hes got around that's what he'll use I guess.
08:16 GuShH_ concrete without a structure is as good as dirt... or worse.
08:17 ShH_ points at katsmeow
08:17 GuShH_ kat should know
08:17 katsmeow-afk concrete blocks are 15lbs? and brittle as heck. i'd go for pouring a 60lb bag around those pipes/flanges, lots easier
08:17 GuShH_ ok so that design is quite minimalistic, not bad for small things.
08:18 katsmeow-afk ok, then pour 4 of them with the 60lb bag <shrug>
08:18 GuShH_ lol
08:18 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: im going to cast a hole in the concrete
08:18 katsmeow-afk cicrle the pedistals with 1/4 inch rebar, and it will last forever
08:18 delinquentme I supposed I could drill it
08:19 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: slower curing makes for a stronger bond on concrete, but when is it "enough" ie at what point there's no sense in slowing down the process anymore?
08:19 delinquentme but I need a repeatable process .. I've got a cabinet maker who I'm gonna get to build the mold
08:19 katsmeow-afk wait,, you will cast a hole in concrete, and then put in the anchors? how will you hold the anchors?
08:19 GuShH_ lol
08:19 delinquentme epoxy
08:19 GuShH_ and I thought this was non profit, not commercial
08:19 GuShH_ tsk tsk tsk
08:20 katsmeow-afk GuShH, a few days is best, full strength on a sliding scale is a week or 2 even
08:20 delinquentme GuShH_: just bc i've got someone making the mold doesnt make it commercial
08:20 katsmeow-afk epoxy is horribly pricey, just positiont he feet where you want them, and pour the concrete around them
08:20 GuShH_ if the "feet" are spikey where the concrete will set around them, then they won't come apart
08:20 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: what happens when I need to balance it?
08:21 delinquentme AH. this is true.
08:21 GuShH_ drill out bits, or add shot
08:21 delinquentme whats shot?
08:21 GuShH_ have a sacrificial edge? whatever
08:21 katsmeow-afk balance it? i thought the concrete was the deadweight anchor
08:21 GuShH_ lead shot for example
08:21 ShH_ doesn't know what delinquentme wants any
08:21 GuShH_ actually lead is going to cost you more than the concrete :p
08:21 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: yeah I mean like .. to ... ensure that its flush with the table ... IE not wobbly
08:21 katsmeow-afk oh, rubber mat
08:22 delinquentme so the feet are able to screw in and out to give it a nice planar seat
08:22 katsmeow-afk shims
08:22 delinquentme shims are kinda getto
08:22 delinquentme i want adjustable feet
08:22 katsmeow-afk make it a tripod, that way it cannot be wobbley
08:22 GuShH_ get adjusters from pool tables, they look nice
08:22 GuShH_ cast alu
08:22 ShH_ g
08:22 delinquentme i suppose if the mold is exact it will sit perfectly but thats kinda of a gamble
08:22 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: needs wide footprint for the area it takes up
08:22 GuShH_ the point of adjustable feet is when the floor / surface is uneven, not really the part iself
08:23 katsmeow-afk screw adjusters come on everything from washing machines, pool tales, kitchen tables, any home repair place has them
08:23 delinquentme orbital shaker wouldn't go well as a tripod
08:23 GuShH_ the washing machine ones have rubber too
08:23 katsmeow-afk it would if it was balanced
08:23 delinquentme yeah its not a question of how to get them.. but how to mount the piece which they'll thread INTO
08:23 katsmeow-afk oh, easy, cast that into the botom
08:23 GuShH_ you can use a female standoff or nuts, embedded in the concrete
08:23 GuShH_ ideal if they're welded to a structure.
08:23 delinquentme yeah thats prob the best solution
08:24 delinquentme well theres no metal just acrylic and concrete :D
08:24 GuShH_ the concrete sets inside a container?
08:24 GuShH_ otherwise it'll crumble .
08:24 katsmeow-afk still with the $$$epoxy
08:24 GuShH_ lol
08:24 GuShH_ must. glue. stuff.
08:25 ShH_ wonders if there's more of that magic ch
08:26 delinquentme yeah
08:26 delinquentme epoxy is like jb weld
08:26 delinquentme thats like 5 bucks isnt it?
08:26 delinquentme but either casting it in or JB weld will work
08:27 GuShH_ the point is you are already casting concrete... why would you glue anything onto it
08:27 delinquentme and JB weld has a little flex to it... so thatll help
08:27 delinquentme well if the top part is shaking ... and i've got concrete ... I dont want the casting to shake loose
08:28 katsmeow-afk but you don't want flex
08:28 delinquentme concrete / metal junctions are strong ... bu definitely not vibration resistant
08:28 katsmeow-afk depends on how they are built
08:28 delinquentme a little bit of jb weld in the junction between the two I could see being good
08:28 chris_99 what do you guys make of this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271043535807?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 would it be possible to 'hack' up a controller for it do you reckon
08:29 delinquentme http://www.mcmaster.com/#internally-threaded-anchors/=j36b4o
08:29 delinquentme these guys might work
08:29 delinquentme but im not sure if they're open on both ends ... and they definitely dont have the flange that I was hoping for
08:29 katsmeow-afk i poured a house with 3000+ bags of cement and concrete, with regular rebar, stainless, and galvanised steel, but feel free to ignore anything i say about it
08:29 GuShH_ look into rebar thread inserts otherwise
08:29 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: houses ... dont .. vibrate?
08:29 GuShH_ look into expansion anchors for concrete (they're threaded, for fasteners)
08:29 GuShH_ make them yourself
08:30 delinquentme was this near san andreas?
08:30 delinquentme possibly GuShH_
08:30 GuShH_ you should go to church and ask jesus for halp
08:30 delinquentme katsmeow-afk: if you've got suggestions as to what fasterners to use im all ears
08:30 GuShH_ he'll give you some wine and everything will be better
08:30 delinquentme but street creds not exactly a solution
08:30 delinquentme GuShH_: DRINK THE PAIN AWAY
08:31 delinquentme jeebus!
08:31 GuShH_ http://www.confast.com/concrete-fasteners.aspx
08:31 delinquentme maybe something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Metric-Running-HeliCoil-Locking-Inserts/dp/B002GPLD1C/ref=sr_1_171?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1346417614&sr=1-171
08:32 delinquentme HMM
08:32 delinquentme maybe something like this lag shield on eiher side ??
08:32 delinquentme possibility...
08:32 GuShH_ cheapest would be a rebar frame with 4 nuts welded to it, 8 and another frame if you need both sides...
08:33 GuShH_ then spray some rust inhibitor and cast it away!
08:34 delinquentme thats a per-unit cost
08:34 ShH_ sh
08:34 delinquentme but it would totally be bomb proof
08:34 katsmeow-afk i would not do it like you are doing it, period
08:34 ShH_ p
08:34 delinquentme why katsmeow-afk
08:35 katsmeow-afk i went over it already
08:35 katsmeow-afk re-read
08:35 katsmeow-afk afk
08:35 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: shouldn't that be PAFK ?
08:36 delinquentme you're saying dont use concrete brick?
08:36 delinquentme which im not
08:36 GuShH_ don't use bricks, don't use epoxy
08:36 GuShH_ delinquentme: how many do you want to make anyway
08:36 delinquentme IDK
08:37 delinquentme open source so like
08:37 delinquentme DIY
08:37 GuShH_ right so you are trying to avoid welding
08:37 GuShH_ although any cheap buzz box would suffice
08:37 delinquentme well welding you need to pay someone
08:37 GuShH_ not really
08:37 GuShH_ I bet you can get a full SMAW setup for $100 in the US, good enough to weld nuts to rebar.
08:37 delinquentme just not what im looking for
08:37 GuShH_ but it's more limiting than "smear some epoxy and call it a day"
08:38 GuShH_ I get that.
08:38 delinquentme perhaps
08:39 delinquentme Lag Screws are used to expand the Lag Shield Anchor against the concrete, brick or block.
08:39 delinquentme shit nah.
08:40 delinquentme maybe i just hit the hardware store up
08:40 GuShH_ get some "super long nuts" and some "super long threaded rod" and make your own little anchors...
08:41 GuShH_ if you bend the rod 90° it's going to anchor pretty well, if you bend it again, to another direction, even better.
08:42 delinquentme Hmmm.
08:42 delinquentme thats interesting.
08:42 GuShH_ It's the cheese talking.
08:42 delinquentme hahaha
08:42 delinquentme thats definitely interesting
08:43 delinquentme the U clamps come to mind
08:43 delinquentme where the ends of the U are threaded...
08:43 GuShH_ maybe
08:46 delinquentme "sex bolts"
08:46 delinquentme seriously.
08:52 GuShH_ cheeeeez
09:30 chris_99 am i right in thinking most robots which use compressed air are still mainly controlled via electronics
09:30 chris_99 rather than the pressure of the air
10:19 AR_ GuShH_,
10:19 AR_ please come to ##electronics
10:19 AR_ thank you
10:19 AR_ that is all
10:28 ShH_ stares at
10:29 AR_ please
11:30 delinquentme anyone know where I might order threaded rod in slightly custom sizes for cheap?
11:30 delinquentme like I need 24" long with 5"s of thread on either side
11:49 rue_bed sizes?
11:49 rue_bed ah
11:49 rue_bed what size thread
11:49 rue_bed M10?
11:49 rue_bed M10-1?
11:49 rue_bed 5/16?
11:51 GuShH_ rue_bed: he quit
11:51 rue_bed who
11:51 GuShH_ delinquentme
11:51 rue_bed ah
11:51 ShH_ sneezes on rue_bed's solder
11:52 rue_bed ?
12:17 Tom_itx rue_bed you sleep too much
12:46 rue_house heh
14:57 katsmeow-afk this just sold for $17,200 : https://extportal.pbs.gsa.gov/ResourceCenter/PRHomePage/loadProperty.do?propId=15365
14:58 katsmeow-afk DIAMOND SHOALS LIGHT TOWER
14:58 katsmeow-afk BID RESULTS
14:58 katsmeow-afk 08/31/12
14:58 katsmeow-afk BIDDER NAME BID AMOUNT
14:58 katsmeow-afk 1. Zap Water Technology Inc. $17,200.
15:01 chris_99 are they going to setup a data haven
15:01 katsmeow-afk i doubt it
15:02 katsmeow-afk i bet then dynamite it and sell it as 300 tons of scrap steel
15:02 chris_99 heh
15:02 katsmeow-afk maybe not, they'd get only $30k as scrap
15:03 katsmeow-afk i dunno, maybe salt water corrosion test facility
15:04 chris_99 yeah
15:05 chris_99 maybe they're making a big ass salt water battery ;)
15:05 katsmeow-afk it would be a big one
15:09 katsmeow-afk the tiny community of Hell has come to not only accept, but love its name. Businesses include Hell in a Handbasket and Hell's Kitchen - and on the semi-official website, you can buy the honorary title "Mayor of Hell" for a day, for $100.
15:09 chris_99 haha
16:21 GuShH hell yeah
18:04 rue_house I dunn swimmed in ocean
18:06 GuShH theBear: what's going on!
20:45 katsmeow-afk the V6 engine block i got for use as a "steam" engine : http://designerthinking.com/images/steam/IMG_1917m.jpg
20:45 katsmeow-afk closeup showing bottom exhaust ports : http://designerthinking.com/images/steam/IMG_1918m.jpg
20:59 katsmeow-afk <cough>
21:01 ace4016 you guys have been doing largely mechanical projects lately...my mechanical knowledge is lacking :P
21:02 katsmeow-afk not so!, i did this last nite : http://designerthinking.com/benchpsu.html#bottom
21:03 katsmeow-afk or the nite before,, but i got all 6 heatsinks done last nite
21:03 ace4016 ah right; you spent a while making that i remember
21:03 ace4016 i've been away from doing actual projects for so long
21:03 katsmeow-afk still working on it
21:04 katsmeow-afk Tiggr is still in pieces from moving back here from Fla, where she looked like this : http://designerthinking.com/images/puterlab/DSCF2657m.jpg
21:04 ace4016 tiggr is purely a computer?
21:05 ace4016 i thought she had a mechanical body at one point in time
21:05 katsmeow-afk no, that was foxy, RifRaf's robot who had no brains
21:05 ace4016 ah
21:05 ace4016 animal named robots...confused me there :P
21:06 katsmeow-afk animal? no, foxy was mechanical, and had an irc presence
21:06 katsmeow-afk RifRaf was an aussie human
21:06 katsmeow-afk he may still be human, not sure
21:12 ace4016 lol, foxy is an animal name :P
21:13 ace4016 i know who rifraf is; bought my AVR programmer from him
21:14 katsmeow-afk how is he nowadays?
21:15 ace4016 no idea; i bought my programmer from him back in like 2006?
21:15 ace4016 my only contact to him would be IRC and we weren't that close of friends :P
21:16 tsmeow-afk
21:17 katsmeow-afk well, i hope he's doing well
21:17 katsmeow-afk reminded me of him tonite to see a deer crossing the road, and after being forced to fence my property i cannot have them roaming around the house like cows roam around Riff's place
21:33 ace4016 heh, i remember when he moved into that house where he could have that happen
21:34 katsmeow-afk it's nice to have freely roaming animals around, cept if they stick their head ini the window and bellow, or spend 10 minutes licking the door handle, etc
21:34 katsmeow-afk fertilising the garden for you, etc
21:36 rue_shop3 it looks like I might not have the resources to keep up with my equipment failure rates
21:36 rue_shop3 I just had a drive failure on rue_bed
21:37 katsmeow-afk drive was how old?
21:39 ace4016 buy quality rather than quantity? or have a good redundancy system that can have cheap drives swapped out at a moments notice
21:43 rue_shop3 hell if I know everything I hav e is used cause I cant afford to the $1000/computer it would take ot have new stuff
21:43 katsmeow-afk i didn't spend $1000 on Tiggr
21:44 katsmeow-afk well, maybe overall, but each box was like $50, i added $60 hds, and some ram, that's it
21:48 ace4016 HDDs are cheap these days
21:48 ace4016 you can buy a high capacity, high quality drive for cheap
21:48 ace4016 there's certain things you typically don't go low quality on in a PC :P
21:49 ace4016 PSU, mobo, and HDD are usually what you don't do low quality (also, CPU cooling system...but meh)
22:02 Tom_itx that's pretty much a pc
22:03 ace4016 those parts don't add up to $1000 though :P
22:03 katsmeow-afk Gateway 7200X Computer Tower $30.00
22:04 katsmeow-afk dell inspiron 530 duo quard2.4 ghz no harddrive $30.00
22:05 katsmeow-afk laptops : http://shopgoodwill.com/listings/listByCat.asp?catID=176&ending=Items
22:05 katsmeow-afk don't tell anyone i told you about that place
22:12 ace4016 heh
22:22 tsmeow-afk looks sl
22:22 tsmeow-afk hopes furry didn't go po
22:54 rue_shop3 maybe he got kicked out of his illegal suite
22:57 delinquentme what are these called https://dlnmh9ip6v2uc.cloudfront.net/images/products/1/0/9/8/9/10989-05.jpg
22:58 Tom_itx clips
23:02 Tom_itx delinquentme, http://www.saleae.com/accessories
23:03 delinquentme nailed it !
23:03 delinquentme <3
23:03 Tom_itx get the LA while you're at it
23:07 delinquentme can I get those test clips cheaper than 20 bucks?
23:08 Tom_itx oh probably but it was a place i knew had them
23:10 Tom_itx http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
23:10 Tom_itx http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/XKM%20RED/461-1010-ND/528231
23:10 Tom_itx maybe not
23:11 Tom_itx http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/XKM-S/461-1012-ND/528233
23:11 Tom_itx the saleae looks like a decent price
23:57 theBear hehehehe, super long nuts and sex bolts... i laughed for years at sex bolts, but i was also using them and under 10, but after a long break, it still cracks me up ;)