#robotics Logs
Jun 30 2012
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00:34 rrywolf curls up on katsmeow-afk for bed
01:37 rue_more too bad we dont eat grass, there is more than enough of it in the world
01:39 ace4016 use it to feed the cows
01:39 ace4016 and technically...wheat is a cereal which is a grass...
01:39 ace4016 so we do eat grass :P
01:40 ace4016 (mainly the seeds, but that's besides the point)
01:40 rue_more I meant lawn grass
01:40 rue_more imagine how many plates of supper you could make from mowing the lawn once
01:41 ace4016 requires too much grass to fuel a human
07:47 katsmeow-afk http://thr2.pgmcdn.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2012/05/robots_feel_nothing_when_they_hold_hands.jpg
07:51 Skwint ah, but do humans?
07:51 Skwint or are we just programmed to act like we do?
08:11 rizlah I do not
08:11 rizlah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzK3FBRczRo
08:43 Tom_itx what's a safe size stranded wire to use with 80v @ 7A
08:43 Tom_itx DC if it matters
08:45 katsmeow-afk deja vu
08:46 Tom_itx this says #8 but the connector isn't that big
08:47 katsmeow-afk #8 will run cool at 25amps
08:47 Tom_itx i only need 7
08:47 Tom_itx i think i used #14
08:48 katsmeow-afk 14awg is fine
08:49 Tom_itx it's only a foot long or so
08:49 katsmeow-afk and 14awg shold fit almost every connector ever made, cept for data-pcb connectors
08:49 Tom_itx and there's 1 pair to each driver
08:52 katsmeow-afk we have had this convrsaton at least 2x before, i do not know what to say to please you
08:53 Tom_itx i wasn't asking you to please me
08:53 Tom_itx i had a connector issue
08:53 katsmeow-afk if you were leased, you'd use the previous answer, but you are looking for a better answer, ergo you are not pleased?
08:53 Tom_itx where the wire was stiff and caused the connector to miss when plugged into the pin it was on
08:53 Tom_itx but i think i fixed it now
08:53 katsmeow-afk use stranded wire, use more (smaller) wires
08:54 Tom_itx i did use stranded wire
08:54 Tom_itx i questioned their design from the beginning
08:55 katsmeow-afk it's like UPS, i put my street number in bigger lettering and on more things than required, the neighbor put NO street address on anything, and yet they get all my packages??
08:55 katsmeow-afk i have no clues
08:56 Tom_itx the only thing left to fix now is the mpg
08:56 katsmeow-afk what's a mpg?
08:56 Tom_itx which is used single ended going to a differential input
08:56 Tom_itx manual pulse generator
08:56 Tom_itx (encoder)
08:56 katsmeow-afk o
08:56 katsmeow-afk pendant thing
08:58 tsmeow-afk feels physically ill knowing the neighbors are trashing her stuff, and UPS set up the situation for them to do so, and it's all legal and
09:02 Tom_itx it's no fun to have bad neighbors. i've had them in the past but not to that degree
09:02 katsmeow-afk all i can possibly do now is spend more money making even bigger address signage, in garish colors
09:03 katsmeow-afk the neighbors were not part of the transportation contract to deliver packages to me, UPS violated terms of delivery
09:04 katsmeow-afk the side effect of not ever getting the package now, in original or mint condition, is an unrecoverable event
09:04 Tom_itx i suggest you go to the Birmingham UPS office and make an offical request for delivery to your address explaining multiple missed deliveries
09:04 katsmeow-afk been there, several times, done that, several times
09:04 katsmeow-afk it's why i know where the office is
09:05 Tom_itx does FedEx screw up too?
09:05 Tom_itx request your packages sent via FedEx
09:05 katsmeow-afk they often refuse to dliver, send delivery notices to the neighbors, and have returned packages
09:06 katsmeow-afk i did get one package from them this week
09:06 katsmeow-afk they usually cost more and there's little option for asking a seller of any variety to pick a different shipping company
09:06 Tom_itx cost can be measured in non delivered packages too
09:07 katsmeow-afk i have offered MANY times to pay for double boxing, double bubblewrap, and the seller refused, and that's how i got at least one free oscilloscpe, because they didn't ship prperly, UPS trashed it
09:08 katsmeow-afk i got a scope with the bent buttons poking out thruu the cardboard box, the selelr said that was ok packaging
09:09 katsmeow-afk gotapackage sent usps, the box was crushed down to 1/2 size, which prolly took over a ton of force to do, but because they used peanuts and not bubblewrap, USPS refused to pay for it, even tho they ack'd that they did the damage to it
09:10 katsmeow-afk got to read the fine print, all carriers have it: item cannot be damaged by a 4inch knife or screwdriver impact to the box, and item can tolerate being dropped 6ft onto concrete from any and all angles
09:10 katsmeow-afk otherwise, it wasn't packaged properly, and payment under insurance can be refused
09:11 Tom_itx i'm sure their lawyers learned that terminology from experience
09:11 katsmeow-afk witht hat usps crushing, bubblewrap wuld not have saved the 7a26's either, but it was the "out" for voidng insurance
09:12 katsmeow-afk yep
09:12 Tom_itx i'd rather not discuss it because there's nothing i can do to help and i feel it upsets you to keep hashing it out. i sympathise with you though.
09:13 katsmeow-afk dogdamnit, there's a package at the postoffice which won't be delivered, it's the 1gpm pump to get water from the "dry" creekbed, i haveto drive into town to get it, even tho the mail carrier will be driving by here in 3 hours
09:14 katsmeow-afk they also have the permeate pump now
09:15 Tom_itx who does?
09:15 katsmeow-afk usps
09:15 katsmeow-afk the post office
09:15 Tom_itx at least it's being held for pickup
09:15 katsmeow-afk the mail carrier (aka mailman) will be driving by here to NOT deliver either item in 3 hrs
09:15 katsmeow-afk it isn't
09:15 Tom_itx maybe that's best
09:16 Tom_itx considering the grief you have with deliveries
09:16 katsmeow-afk i haveto go there and wait till the carrier returns from rounds and checks it back in as undeliverable
09:17 katsmeow-afk calling now
09:18 katsmeow-afk i haveto do special proceedures to get snailmail ?
09:19 Tom_itx my mail lady said she wasn't supposed to leave packages unless they could be hand delivered
09:19 Tom_itx and she knows us and gets along well with us
09:20 Tom_itx i've had to track her down a few times in the past
09:20 Tom_itx including when i got my metal box
09:20 Tom_itx but i'm not in a rural area so she's usually still in the neighborhood and will gladly give it to me
09:22 katsmeow-afk got a "Saturday sub mail carrier" today who said she'd bring the items out and deliver them
09:23 katsmeow-afk damn, special services! delivering items!
09:24 katsmeow-afk it is just so rare that something goes right when humans are involved
09:24 Tom_itx have you considered putting a 'call box' at your gate? i work for a few ppl that have long drives with gates that do that
09:24 katsmeow-afk yep, they will not wait
09:25 katsmeow-afk they also will not call when getting near the subdivision
09:26 Tom_itx well, as i said earlier there doesn't seem to be anything i can help with as you have thought and persued every avenue
09:27 katsmeow-afk and i am sorry t say you are correct in what you said
09:44 m_itx turns the sun on in rue_bed's
09:45 e_bed hides under pi
09:45 Tom_itx 4 legged pillow?
09:45 rue_bed 12-2=10-2=8 currently 7.5
09:45 rue_bed =.5 in bed
09:52 rue_bed 41 60
09:53 rue_bed cats find it too hot on bed
09:53 rue_bed it seems
09:54 Tom_itx 5v, i need a 2.5v divider
09:54 Tom_itx for logic level current
09:54 rue_bed 1k
10:10 rue_bed 59 60
10:10 e_bed rolls over for a 1 min
10:54 rue_more abcdefg(dp)
10:55 rue_more http://www.sciencelobby.com/components/images/7segment.gif
10:58 katsmeow-afk Previous research, such as some data from a 300-computer cluster, showed that memory modules had correctable error rates of 200 to 5,000 failures per billion hours of operation. Google, though, found the rate much higher: 25,000 to 75,000 failures per billion hours.
10:58 katsmeow-afk 75,000 failures per billion hours doesn't sound like much, for reduced to Tiggr's 10 puters, it's an error every 55 days
10:59 rue_more correctable
11:00 e_more lights a fire under the cha
11:00 rue_more typedef struct segments_s {
11:00 rue_more unsigned a: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned b: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned c: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned d: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned e: 1;
11:00 katsmeow-afk if you have ecc
11:00 rue_more unsigned f: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned g: 1;
11:00 rue_more unsigned dp: 1;
11:00 rue_more } segments_t;
11:00 m_itx introduces rue_more to pastebi
11:01 m_itx pees on the fire and rolls over for another
11:01 e_more knocks the head off a fire sprinkler to clean off the f
11:01 rue_more water is a bit dirty at first, but let it run long enough and its all good
11:04 e_more tries to remmeber what to have for breakfast on the wee
11:06 rue_more hahaha, I'm writing a 7 segment font editor
11:06 katsmeow-afk bacon, eggs, and baked potatoe skins
11:06 katsmeow-afk else, a blt, cecause that's easier for a robot to fix
11:06 rue_more I dont have any bacon, the eggs are so old, they hatched, left, and died of old age, and the potatoes are still under the ground
11:07 rue_more but I want
11:07 Tom_itx cap'n krunch
11:08 rue_more I'v apparently developed a reaction to milk...
11:08 ShH is pissed
11:08 m_itx doesn't
11:08 ShH gives Tom_itx the fi
11:08 rue_more ?
11:08 GuShH He doesn't care!
11:09 m_itx gives GuShH the
11:09 ShH puts on his steel toe boots and runs toward Tom
11:09 e_more slips in a pane of g
11:09 ShH trips on rue_more's dead chic
11:10 katsmeow-afk that could be panefiul
11:10 e_more cringes and looks for the
11:10 rue_more heh
11:10 GuShH the mop turned to dust.
11:10 m_itx watches the cat drag the dead chicken
11:10 rue_more wheres a videocamera when you need one
11:10 rue_more GuShH, whats failing you
11:10 GuShH this dude at the home depot argued with me that selling something at less than 50% was not worth it and that he would rather throw it away than have me or anyone have it.
11:10 tsmeow-afk goes to see if the water pump was delivered
11:11 rue_more GuShH,
11:11 GuShH had I not counted to 10 I would've snapped.
11:11 rue_more there are people who will not let you have their garbage either
11:11 katsmeow-afk rue, cannot put a video camera in the mailbox, that would violate the dog's right to privacy
11:11 GuShH they try to sell returned chainsaws, etc. for 80% of their new value, with missing parts.
11:11 katsmeow-afk bbl
11:11 GuShH rue_more: it's not garbage though.
11:11 rue_more they cant understand that
11:11 rue_more _cant_
11:12 rue_more not possable with their mental model
11:12 GuShH rue_more: I wanted to make a case by having him look at the dripping oil and the missing parts and how no one would ever spend 80% of it's new value on it, but he refused to walk away from his desk.
11:12 rue_more heh
11:12 GuShH rue_more: should I start calling until I get to talk to someone with rank or should I go mental on the dude
11:12 rue_more buy it, remove half the parts, and return it for your money back
11:12 GuShH you don't have warranty on those items
11:12 GuShH that's also another point I made clear.
11:13 rue_more heh
11:13 GuShH you cannot invest 2k on something that could well be garbage.
11:13 GuShH he shrugged and said he didn't care, he would rather throw it away than have to sell it for under 50%....
11:13 GuShH what kind of retarded monkey thinks like that?
11:13 rue_more heh
11:13 rue_more lots of them
11:13 rue_more its really sad
11:13 Tom_itx maybe you should shop at Menards instead
11:13 GuShH also argued theres no revenue for him if it sells for under 50%
11:13 rue_more "THATS MY GARBAGE, LEAVE IT ALONE!"
11:14 GuShH I just played it cool I don't want to end up in jail for some low life idiot.
11:14 GuShH rue_more: they are either returned units, units that were on display or units that got returned and sent to a repair shop, then back.
11:14 Tom_itx not over a stupid chain saw
11:14 rue_more make the issue worse till he cant maintian his standing
11:14 Tom_itx i got a weed eater that way once
11:14 GuShH rue_more: oh I could, I could start buying shit, damage it and return it like all these people do.
11:14 Tom_itx they'd superglued the gas filler cap shut
11:15 rue_more hahaha
11:15 Tom_itx it was a display model
11:15 Tom_itx they didn't want anyone stealing the cap
11:15 GuShH Tom_itx: I got my first chainsaw like that, it was at 30% of it's price and I had to simply replace a 4 dollar part.
11:15 GuShH they steal the caps here
11:15 GuShH I actually mentioned that and they didn't care
11:15 Tom_itx thus the superglue
11:15 rue_more why not just remove the cap before its put on display?
11:15 rue_more duh...
11:15 GuShH It makes you want to smash their skull against their shitty ikea quality desk
11:16 Tom_itx i don't need a chainsaw anyway i have 3
11:16 e_more should get a chai
11:16 Tom_itx 2 really nice ones and one really old nice one
11:16 GuShH meh no one offered it to you
11:16 Tom_itx one is small for taking up in the tree with you
11:16 ShH fr
11:16 GuShH IN the tree?
11:16 Tom_itx and a nice pole saw
11:16 GuShH midget!
11:17 GuShH stay away from my rotten trees!
11:17 Tom_itx i'm not 80' tall
11:17 GuShH bah I need a drink, or something.
11:17 Tom_itx i stood on an 8" branch once that gave way
11:17 rue_more standing ont eh wrong side of the cut?
11:17 ShH ponders going back to the store with ... ba
11:18 Tom_itx no, it was rotten
11:18 Tom_itx but the bark was still there
11:18 GuShH lol how would you ever stand on the wrong side
11:18 rue_more the coyote does it all the time
11:18 Tom_itx there are those kinds out there...
11:18 GuShH people that should get shot: people standing on the wrong side of the branch, home improvement store managers.
11:18 Tom_itx and society tries to save them
11:18 rue_more but when buggs does it, the tree falls and the branch stays suspended
11:18 Tom_itx i wish they would quit that
11:19 rue_more anyone with any ailment or injury should have to give up all their family money and possesions to help them?
11:20 GuShH Tom_itx: hippies? potheads?
11:20 GuShH greenies
11:20 rue_more void drawSegments(sevenSeg_t this) {
11:20 rue_more }
11:20 rue_more hmmm
11:20 GuShH this as what
11:21 rue_more a sevenSeg_t
11:21 Tom_itx rue_more just use a bsd
11:21 ShH grabs some sn
11:21 Tom_itx bcd
11:21 Tom_itx chip
11:21 GuShH rue_more: pointer of?
11:21 rue_more no I want the 7's with the hooks
11:21 rue_more no
11:21 rue_more typedef union sevenSeg_u {
11:21 rue_more segments_t segments;
11:21 rue_more unsigned char code;
11:21 rue_more } sevenSeg_t;
11:21 ShH needs to destroy something to get the anger
11:22 e_more gives GuShH an axe and points him to the firewood
11:22 rue_more your just pissed cause you want it.
11:22 rue_more and they want too much for it
11:24 GuShH rue_mohr: anyway it all started because they keep placing shit with no price tags and I was told it would've been tagged by today morning when it wasn't and I'm really sick of people and their bullshit, they have no word whatsoever for anything.
11:24 rue_mohr is it wallmart?
11:24 GuShH everyone seems to do it, ie. not work at all.
11:24 GuShH and try to dispatch you
11:24 GuShH or ignore you
11:25 rue_mohr so why do you go there?
11:25 GuShH no other choices
11:25 e_mohr goes to make break
11:25 rue_mohr start a repair shop
11:25 GuShH I might.
11:25 rue_mohr most people never come to pick their stuff up
11:25 GuShH not if you try to rip them off they don't
11:26 rue_mohr just make them sign a policy that says after 14 days from notification, their stuff is yours to do with what you like
11:26 GuShH I should start recording every conversation I have with these assholes
11:26 GuShH as legal proof
11:26 rue_mohr in a month you will have all the stuff you could ever want
11:26 GuShH I keep thinking "no, they can't be all bad, no need to get the phone out and record"
11:26 rue_mohr record them
11:27 rue_mohr esp if the phone says "this call may be recorded..."
11:27 GuShH what he said about throwing shit away rather than selling it to customers would've been gold to get him fired.
11:27 rue_mohr YOU may record that call, they just said so
11:27 GuShH this was in person.
11:27 rue_mohr yea, but esp on the phone its doable
11:28 GuShH bah I better get doing things
11:39 Tom_itx yeah, go back to the store and pound that guy's ass
11:40 GuShH Tom_itx: not worth it
11:40 Tom_itx well there may be hope for you yet
11:40 GuShH I meant doing things at home.
11:43 Tom_itx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lunksapjAEI
11:44 GuShH watching youtube videos is the opposite
11:44 Tom_itx it may change your mood
11:44 GuShH That's a hard thing to do
11:47 Tom_itx rue_mohr might like this one more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go43XeW6Wg4&feature=fvwrel&NR=1
11:55 rue_mohr ITS POURING RAIN
11:55 rue_mohr :(
11:55 Tom_itx it could be pouring much worse things
11:55 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/hail/hail5.jpg
11:56 rue_mohr cute
12:17 katsmeow-afk no pump yet, and it's too hot to wait on it up there
12:18 katsmeow-afk [12:07] <katsmeow-afk> Updated: 12 sec ago
12:18 katsmeow-afk [12:07] <katsmeow-afk> 102.7 °F
12:18 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk
12:18 Tom_itx you're hawt
12:18 katsmeow-afk firecast is for 111F
12:18 katsmeow-afk err, forecast
12:18 katsmeow-afk it's to howt to speel rite
12:18 Tom_itx i think the first spelling was correct
12:19 katsmeow-afk there was a forest fire n Leeds, it blanketted Bham with smoke, took them TWO DAYS to find the FOREST FIRE
12:19 katsmeow-afk a news crew finally went out and found it for them
12:45 rizlah lol
12:56 furrywolf yay, sold my spare charge controller. only got $100 for it, rather less than the $170 I spend, but oh well, at least it's gone.
12:56 furrywolf s/spend/spent
12:58 katsmeow-afk should have sold the spare charges and kept the cntroller?
12:58 katsmeow-afk </joke>
12:59 katsmeow-afk (parse error)
13:07 furrywolf yay again, just talked to one of the guys with the ni-fe batteries... I should hopefully be able to get them from him in a week or two.
13:09 furrywolf 40 300Ah Kursk Accumulator cells, will give me 600Ah @ 24V... $500 of electrolyte later.
13:13 katsmeow-afk 14kwh of storage?
13:14 furrywolf yes
13:14 katsmeow-afk 120amps for an hr at 120v
13:14 furrywolf it's not much, but it's a heck of a lot better than my current crappy batteries...
13:14 katsmeow-afk what do you mean "not much" , it's huge!
13:14 furrywolf as off-grid solar systems go, it's medium.
13:15 katsmeow-afk it's 5amps 24-7
13:15 furrywolf ?
13:15 katsmeow-afk all you need now is to make sure it's all charged with solar
13:15 katsmeow-afk 120amps for an hr = 5amps for 24 hrs
13:16 furrywolf during winter here, we get ~2 peak sun-hours/day average, so I can only figure on 5kwh/day charging, if that. during bad weather, much less.
13:16 katsmeow-afk ouch
13:17 furrywolf I'd like a larger battery bank, to store surplus power during good weather for use during poor weather.
13:17 furrywolf blah. the supreme court has somehow ruled that it's perfectly valid to fine people for not purchasing a service from a private company.
13:18 katsmeow-afk they do that anyhow, it's called "social security retirement"
13:19 furrywolf now, if you can't afford health insurance, they're going to fix the problem by taking your money.
13:22 katsmeow-afk but if you annot afford a term life insurance, they tax you for social security, and even if you have health insurance now, they tax you for medicare/medicaid
13:22 katsmeow-afk it's no different, just more
13:24 furrywolf but those don't force you to purchase a service from a private company as the only option. it's not "if you don't have private insurance, we'll force you to sign up for the government insurance", it's "if you don't have private insurance, we're going to fine you lots of money, and you still won't have insurance".
13:27 katsmeow-afk you know the gov will pick up the cost if your income is so low you cannot afford it?
13:27 furrywolf I know there's not a chance in hell of that part actually happening.
13:28 furrywolf the government is very good at taking people's money, and very bad at giving them any.
13:28 katsmeow-afk then how do people who never paid into social security ever get it? (and they do)
13:29 furrywolf they get by dealing with specialized lawyers, private medicare supplement plans, etc, etc, etc, and getting just enough money to pretend to live as long as they only shop at stores that give senior discounts.
13:31 furrywolf have you ever met someone on social security who thought they had enough money to live comfortably? instead they're all just barely scraping by, and talking about how every cent they have to spend is a problem because of their fixed income...
13:31 katsmeow-afk they are either living wrong, didn't plan on having a reduced income, or someone is harrassing them out of money
13:32 furrywolf yeah... you must not know many people on social security.
13:32 katsmeow-afk i didn't plan on an asshole neighbor, or misrepresented Fla property, or threats of assualt if i put up solar panels, or not being able to use my proerty for solaor or farming
13:33 furrywolf normal payments are ~$500/month, which barely pays for a trailer park space and electricity.
13:33 rizlah Threats of assault over solar panels? Do tell
13:33 katsmeow-afk if they are on $500/mo, they get free electricity and food programs
13:34 katsmeow-afk rizlah, solaor panels give free elecricity, ergo you are stealing from the power co and deserve retribution
13:34 rizlah People think like that?
13:34 furrywolf around here the free electricity program only gives you a once-a-year payment, and it's only to random people, implemented by an idiotic system where the first X callers on the second saturday of every month get money, while everyone else doesn't, so people have to sit there hitting redial every 3 seconds hoping to be one of the lucky few who get through.
13:34 katsmeow-afk plus, apparently anything that makes electricity is loud, causing you to harrasss the neightbors, which again: you deserve to be assaulted
13:35 furrywolf you usually spend 4-5 hours hitting redial, then get the message saying all the money for that month is gone.
13:35 katsmeow-afk i also expected to be able to selll thru asmall home store, online, with UPS/USPS pickup, but i cannot have that because of the neighbors and their gods
13:36 rizlah Your location sounds retarded.
13:36 katsmeow-afk so it's not the lack of money, it's about how the society allows you to use your resources
13:36 rizlah Grab an AR and get to work.
13:37 rizlah It was my understanding that in 'merica, you could do what you wanted on your property (solar, etc)
13:37 furrywolf the vast majority of people who attempt to use the free electricity (or propane, or natural gas - they let you pick one, and only one) do not receive anything.
13:37 katsmeow-afk yeas, they don't think using a wapont, or even yelling at a god, is justifiable in any situation
13:37 tsmeow-afk gets u
13:37 rizlah The AR bit is sarcasm, for anyone thinking it was a legit threat.
13:37 furrywolf and the amount you get is $300ish.
13:37 rizlah Need to watch what you say these days.
13:37 furrywolf once per year. if you're lucky.
13:38 furrywolf the free food program is being cut back drastically. I don't know anyone on it, but it's getting harder and harder to get, and the amounts are smaller, while the cost of food keeps going up.
13:38 katsmeow-afk furry, here it's a program with the powerco, you present proof of income, and sign on, and they don't send you a bill................. i do not qualify
13:39 furrywolf nothing like that here.
13:39 rizlah furrywolf: A single person can easily survive on 75¤/w food
13:39 rizlah _easily_
13:39 rizlah You cannot possibly eat more than 75 worth of food in 7 days.
13:39 rizlah You simply cannot.
13:39 furrywolf rizlah: would be nice if it were that high. it's more like $75/month.
13:39 katsmeow-afk yeas the food situation is 100% ripoff, if i had been allowed to have a garden, this land would have paid for itself by now,, but instead i am bankrupt now
13:40 furrywolf the last person I knew to get it was getting $120/month for a family.
13:40 katsmeow-afk i mean really, dogit, i am hauling dirt onto the roof to get around the perception that growing food in the earth is "spying on the neighbors"
13:41 rizlah LOL
13:41 rizlah "spying on the neighbors"?
13:41 furrywolf I usually try to live on $5/day food, but it's hard. I went to buy a loaf of bread last week, and put it back on the shelf when I saw it was $7!
13:42 katsmeow-afk and there's only a couple advantages, and tons of cost, to growing food on the roof: it costs to contain the dirt, but the gods cannot pee on it or roll in the veggies or dg upt he potatoes
13:42 furrywolf food is ridiculously expensive around here.
13:42 furrywolf I often end up spending $7ish a day on food, as $5 just doesn't work...
13:43 katsmeow-afk yep, gardening = standing/crawling/sitting around the property line spying on the neighbors, even if done in plain view, in a garden, which was there years before before the neighbors moved in
13:44 furrywolf I couldn't believe the loaf of bread was $7. it wasn't even a large loaf. :(
13:44 furrywolf nor was it organic.
13:44 katsmeow-afk that place on the property line has deep real soil anot hardpan clay, and it approximately flat, while most of my land is 45 degree mountain clay and rock
13:44 katsmeow-afk $7? you are shopping the wrong place
13:45 furrywolf Safeway. about the cheapest around here.
13:45 furrywolf the other options are mostly health food stores, where the bread is $4-$7/loaf too.
13:45 furrywolf I went with a $4.39 loaf, the cheapest they had.
13:46 katsmeow-afk rizlah, here's a pic of 25ft of the house, showing how the ground is too steep for planting : http://designerthinking.com/images/house/IMG_0592.JPG
13:46 katsmeow-afk so i put the garden where i could plant
13:46 furrywolf note I'm only including real bread, not 99% air white bread, which is $2.something/loaf.
13:47 katsmeow-afk the downhill corner of the house is 28ft from ground to roofline
13:48 katsmeow-afk furry, i get the store brand , dunno the price, it's the cheapest wheat bread they have, i cannot eat that white stuff, i get sick
13:48 katsmeow-afk but i cannot tolerate the stupidity that i am not allowed to grow everything i can put between two slices of that bread
13:49 katsmeow-afk tomatoe, lettuce, rabbit, mustards, pickles, eggs, etc etc etc
13:50 furrywolf news today... "In other matters, the council will discuss increasing City Attorney David Tranberg's compensation from $150 to $200 per hour."
13:51 furrywolf and yet we can't afford to fix the roads, fund the schools, keep the parks open,...
13:51 tsmeow-afk hands furry an url : http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/escape-individual-mandate-hint-canada/print?id=16682421
13:54 furrywolf but canada is making you purchase government run insurance, not fining you while still providing nothing.
13:54 furrywolf the fine isn't a payment towards government insurance... it's just a fine. you receive nothing from it.
13:54 katsmeow-afk so instead of paying the "fine", pay for the insurance, it's your call
13:54 katsmeow-afk ah, but it IS directed to gov insurance, just not to *your* insurance
13:55 furrywolf insurance exceeds my income. I've already looked.
13:55 katsmeow-afk then perhaps you'll pick up thetab, as i said
13:55 rue_mohr who can help me draw a 7 segment display inascii-art
13:56 katsmeow-afk i have no doc insurance either, i cannot go vist a doc office, i am not on a soapbox preaching down at you
13:56 rue_mohr "The greatest day for private Butts was making it to major."
13:56 rue_mohr doc insurance?
13:56 katsmeow-afk +tor
13:57 furrywolf |"|
13:57 furrywolf -
13:57 furrywolf |_|
13:57 furrywolf ta-dah!
13:57 rue_mohr hmm, not bad...
13:57 katsmeow-afk _
13:57 katsmeow-afk |_|
13:57 katsmeow-afk |_|
13:57 rue_mohr bit more consistant..
13:57 rrywolf has no plans of ever paying this
13:58 furrywolf if they're not going to provide me with health insurance, they're not getting my money for health insurance.
13:58 furrywolf If they were to offer a proper government-ran health program, like britain or canada, I'd support that.
13:58 rue_mohr hahaha
13:58 furrywolf but not taking people's money without providing any service.
13:58 katsmeow-afk umm, but if you do get health insurance, then there's no "fine"
13:59 rue_mohr $62/mo to go to a doctor who says "your under 80, you walked in, your fine, go away"
14:00 rue_mohr our doctors are compitent at two things: listening to elderly people talk about the adventure their pet dog had yesterday sniffing a bush, and giving people pills.
14:00 rue_mohr if you walked in with a knife if your back, they would send you home with some pain killers
14:00 furrywolf we should have proper government health coverage... instead we take people's money, but don't provide anything. and that's not acceptable.
14:01 katsmeow-afk here, they won't write a script for pain meds, and the meds cost $3 per pill
14:01 rue_mohr they do NOT understand how to diagnose a problem and test their diagnosis
14:02 rue_mohr I want to start a biogical technician centre
14:02 katsmeow-afk my pond was supposed to have fish in it, and maybe a duck or 3, but even tho the dam is over 3/4 done, and i moved all that dirt, dogs made me stop, it was all wasted, and i haveto buy fish for dinner at horribly inflated prices
14:02 furrywolf here they charge you $35 then tell you to grow your own pain meds.
14:03 rue_mohr people who understand how things work enough, and have the tools to diagnose a problem, test the diagnosis, and treat it
14:04 furrywolf heh, you know what the supreme court really did? they got Romney elected.
14:04 katsmeow-afk the dam is ~40ft wide, 60ft thick at the base, ~12ft tall at the uphill side, and the gods get upset if i work on it and that's called harrassing the dogs to continue using my property
14:04 GuShH shoot the cunts and bury them already or stop talking about them.
14:04 katsmeow-afk furry, not if Obama can press on with "this is modeled on Romney's health care plan which he put into effect"
14:04 GuShH they can go missing and with no proof who can link it to you
14:05 GuShH and call the feds if you think everyone around is corrupt, otherwise check yourself in for insanity
14:05 rue_mohr zippo:/files/programming/c/7seg# ./a.out
14:05 rue_mohr _
14:05 rue_mohr |_|
14:05 rue_mohr |_|.
14:05 rue_mohr sorry, I went with kats version
14:06 Tom_itx -_+
14:06 katsmeow-afk why did you need ascii art for a 7-seg display?
14:06 rue_mohr I'm writing a 7 segment font editor
14:06 rue_mohr :S
14:07 katsmeow-afk o
14:07 furrywolf bah, just for that, I'll draw up a better one. :P
14:07 rue_mohr it will tell me the hex code for what I draw
14:07 rue_mohr then I can write a program to map all the segments for the 10 bit display controller
14:07 rue_mohr and test it out
14:10 rue_mohr yay! I can turn segment a on and off
14:10 rrywolf floods rue_mohr in pri
14:10 rue_mohr hahahahahah
14:11 rue_mohr thats really good furry!
14:11 GuShH rue_mohr is acting flybackish
14:11 rue_mohr do I get the last 3rd?
14:11 furrywolf no, freenode blocked it. :P
14:11 rue_mohr oh
14:11 rue_mohr GuShH, ?
14:11 GuShH he tends to rave over small things
14:12 rue_mohr did I talk about my ass or no on about a medical condition or rant about the colours of what I barfed up last night?
14:12 GuShH no
14:12 Tom_itx you rave just over homdepot employees
14:12 GuShH that's why I said -ish
14:12 rue_mohr then I'm far away from flyback
14:12 GuShH Tom_itx: that's not a small thing and I plan on doing something about it, but with no force involved.
14:12 rue_mohr furrywolf, pastebin, I think you have a filter on
14:12 Tom_itx but how should it affect us?
14:13 rue_mohr I think my ports are open
14:13 GuShH rue_mohr: hes actually talked about the colours of his barf?
14:13 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/asciiart7seg.txt
14:13 e_mohr covers his mouth and slides down in his c
14:13 GuShH what the hell
14:13 katsmeow-afk i think furry has us all on pm ignore, because he didn't reply to me either
14:13 GuShH again with the he/she thing and furrywolf.
14:14 katsmeow-afk wow, that's some ascii art
14:14 furrywolf katsmeow-afk: did you message me while I wasn't here? or do you mean when we were talking about social security, which didn't seem like something that was expecting a reply?
14:14 rue_mohr yea he one upped ya kat!
14:14 katsmeow-afk yanoo, come to think of it, there were acii art generators written to run in mirc whiteboards years ago
14:14 furrywolf I'd wager figlet probably already has a font like this.
14:14 katsmeow-afk furry, i mean i sent pm, and you didn't see it i think, regardeless of the time
14:15 furrywolf I saw the one you sent when we were talking about social security...
14:15 furrywolf znc sucks, so if I'm not actually online, there's only a ~50% chance I get messages sent to me.
14:16 furrywolf and if I am online, but afk, it probably gets lost in the buffer, which I rarely read all the way through, just the last screen or so...
14:16 rue_mohr by the year 2040, screens had such a high resolution that most graphics were actually drawn in ascii art, with characters too fine for anyone to really read
14:16 katsmeow-afk so if i install this permeate pump and there's no pressure tank, it won't hurt anything?
14:16 furrywolf just straight into a closed valve, or into a gravity tank?
14:16 katsmeow-afk gravity tank
14:17 furrywolf up high above the filter?
14:17 katsmeow-afk until UPS tracks down where they gave away my pressure tank
14:17 katsmeow-afk no
14:17 furrywolf if it's not pumping against any backpressure, the pump won't do much useful.
14:17 furrywolf but it won't harm it, just won't help anything.
14:17 tsmeow-afk won't be in a hurry to install it
14:18 furrywolf it's a pump that uses the energy in the waste water to help pressurize the filtered water, right?
14:18 katsmeow-afk yeas
14:18 rue_mohr ISON(this.segments.a,'_')
14:18 furrywolf if there's no backpressure already, it can't help much... heh.
14:18 tsmeow-afk goes to nuke some noo
14:19 ShH thinks no one here knows how to
14:19 tsmeow-afk ponders a permiate pump pressurinsing the input to the ro fi
14:19 rue_mohr AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY NOODLES!
14:19 e_mohr scrambles out the
14:21 rue_mohr laDAMNIT
14:21 rue_mohr laMUSH
14:21 rue_mohr pardon my french
14:21 m_itx tosses some roadkill on the c
14:22 rue_mohr printf(" %c \n", ISON(this.segments.a,'_'));
14:22 rue_mohr printf("%c%c%c\n" ,ISON(this.segments.f,'|'),ISON(this.segments.g,'_'), ISON(this.segments.b,'|') );
14:22 rue_mohr printf("%c%c%c%c\n" ,ISON(this.segments.e,'|'),ISON(this.segments.d,'_'), ISON(this.segments.c,'|'), ISON(this.segments.dp,'.') );
14:22 rue_mohr mmmm
14:22 rrywolf also writes a useless ascii 7-segment program, not feeling well enough to accomplish useful t
14:23 rue_mohr fur
14:23 tsmeow-afk ponders routng the "brine" str8 up to the pl
14:23 rue_mohr http://paste.debian.net/177112/
14:23 rue_mohr I broke it, cause I'm modding it, want to rewrite draw7seg for yours?
14:24 rue_mohr http://paste.debian.net/177113/
14:25 tsmeow-afk ponders putting all the puters into a soundproofed case of their own, and having a blower push all the excess heat outside where it bel
14:25 rue_mohr http://paste.debian.net/177114/ <-- that ones compiles
14:26 furrywolf no, right now I'm working out the file format for mine...
14:26 furrywolf if it's worth wasting time, it's worth wasting time in style.
14:26 rue_mohr may I suggest 8 bits,
14:26 rue_mohr with a format like segments_t
14:27 rue_mohr I have a command prompt thing I'm thinking of throwing at this
14:31 rue_mohr |
14:31 rue_mohr |
14:31 rue_mohr 0x06
14:32 rue_mohr suppose I should split this into a library now
14:33 rue_mohr ok I can initialize it, draw it, and invert it
14:33 rue_mohr anything else to do to a 7 seg display?
14:33 rue_mohr I'm going to use a 1 byte file format
14:34 furrywolf does it to decimal points?
14:34 furrywolf do
14:34 rue_mohr which will screw me over for making a 20 segment version, but thats later
14:34 rue_mohr yes
14:34 rue_mohr my dp is on the right
14:34 rue_mohr http://www.sciencelobby.com/components/images/7segment.gif
14:35 rue_mohr I dont think I'm wrong, but technically it makes more sense to have it on the left... odd
14:35 furrywolf heh, I just realized I'm pretty much reimplementing figlet. oh well. :P
14:35 rue_mohr figlet?
14:36 katsmeow-afk you can have it on the left, just wire up the dp on the left diplay to the right display's driver
14:38 rue_mohr its funny ya know
14:38 rue_mohr I COULD just write a program to make every combo of 7 segments there is and show me the code
14:39 rue_mohr its only 256
14:39 rue_mohr oo idea
14:39 katsmeow-afk why does it matter how i mount the permiate pump?
14:39 furrywolf I'm still working on reading my input file... yours might be done sooner. :)
14:40 katsmeow-afk o, nukebox beeped, dinner is cooked, needs flavor added
14:41 rue_mohr http://paste.debian.net/177116/
14:41 rue_mohr didn't take me long to do that did it?
14:42 rue_mohr haha the code for a 7 is 7
14:42 rue_mohr I like the 0x27 7 tho
14:43 rue_mohr degrees is 0x63
14:43 rue_mohr 9 is 0x67
14:44 rue_mohr but I like the 6F 9
14:44 rue_mohr haha you can write phatt on a 7 seg
14:44 rue_mohr I like the 0x7d 6
14:45 rue_mohr now, what IS the point of finishing my program...
14:45 rue_mohr :/
14:46 katsmeow-afk why does it matter how i mount the permiate pump?
14:46 rue_mohr I dunno
14:46 rue_mohr does it?
14:47 katsmeow-afk says to mount it exactly the worst way for taking up space and routing lines
14:50 rue_mohr I just kicked the wind out of my sails
14:50 katsmeow-afk oh? why?
14:54 rue_mohr I made it show me every possable combination
14:54 rue_mohr why would I want to draw it if I can just go look it up?
14:55 katsmeow-afk same reason peole use simulators insetad of building the real thing?
14:56 rue_mohr I just needed the codes so i could write the rom code
14:59 furrywolf this is too much of a waste of time. I may bore if it very shortly. :P
14:59 rue_mohr ahaha
15:18 furrywolf I'm 95% done reading the input file. :P
15:29 furrywolf make that 80%, decided I need more features... might need to handle alphanumeric displays too.
15:38 rue_mohr !assist images
15:38 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images
15:40 katsmeow-afk man it is hot outside
15:41 katsmeow-afk no wind at all
15:47 katsmeow-afk rue, can i make a parity generator without eor gates or rom/ram ?
15:47 rue_mohr gerate a large cool spot and the air will move around a little
15:47 rue_mohr does it count if you make xor gates out of nand gates?
15:48 katsmeow-afk it counts badly
15:48 rue_mohr and I cant use a rom?
15:49 katsmeow-afk because it wastes ram/rom, and will need a lot for a 900bit worsd
15:51 rue_mohr I'm nodding off
15:52 katsmeow-afk What is the current listing status for datasheetcatalog.org?
15:52 katsmeow-afk Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.
15:52 katsmeow-afk What happened when Google visited this site?
15:52 katsmeow-afk Of the 34 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent.
15:52 katsmeow-afk that is certainly suspicious!
15:56 katsmeow-afk so basically, i need an 8-input eor gate with only one gate delay
15:56 furrywolf I'm not handling unicode. so there.
16:04 katsmeow-afk programming bits : http://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html
16:07 katsmeow-afk i am thiking the way to do a multi-input eor is the same way the carry propogates in the 74 series 4bit ttl adder: analog
16:08 katsmeow-afk fed the 8 bits into 8 equal current gates, and every other step in the resulting voltage is odd, the remaining are even
16:09 katsmeow-afk now, how to make that happen .....
16:13 rue_mohr na!
16:13 katsmeow-afk hmm?
16:13 rue_mohr nap!
16:13 katsmeow-afk o
16:31 katsmeow-afk "didn't say it was working, said it was tested"
17:02 furrywolf rue_mohr: still around?
17:10 furrywolf katsmeow-afk: http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/out1.txt I added your font too. :)
17:11 furrywolf now it's time to do useful things!
17:12 furrywolf it supports alphanumeric displays too, with no changes to the code, just the font file, but I'm too lazy to add them.
17:14 katsmeow-afk looks nice, but i don't understand what you'll do with this font
17:14 katsmeow-afk if for no other reason it takes up 3 or 4 or more scrreen lines
17:15 furrywolf nothing at all.
17:15 katsmeow-afk o
17:15 furrywolf it was solely to be annoying and waste time, since I haven't coded anything in ages.
17:22 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c if you want to see my ugly code
17:23 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c.txt if your browser wants to download it instead of show it
17:24 furrywolf if it were a real project, it would need a lot more error checking, but I don't care. :)
17:25 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7segfont.txt is the font file required for it to work
17:29 furrywolf hrmm, there's no reason to declare the number of segments in advance, could skip that part... oh well.
17:36 furrywolf adding 14 segment would be trivial in terms of concepts (no code changes needed, only adding the font to the font file), but I'll let rue do that. :)
17:36 katsmeow-afk sure there is, there's 12- and 16-seg displays too
17:38 furrywolf if you want to add them to the font file, go right ahead. :)
17:38 katsmeow-afk no thanks
17:38 katsmeow-afk i need to go put my hind paws up
17:38 furrywolf it can handle displays with any number of elements, including nixie-like displays with an arbritary image or bitmap for every character. :)
17:39 katsmeow-afk it's been 103F outside all day, and it feels like it may be 83F in here (puter room) now, but that's because i have not turned on an air conditioner yet this year
17:40 katsmeow-afk it's 5:30 pm, and ~10 miles down the hiway is weather station reporting 102.9 as of 40 sec ago
17:41 furrywolf heh
17:41 katsmeow-afk afk
17:41 furrywolf it's been gloomy with a bit of drizzle here today
17:41 furrywolf more weather my peppers won't grow in!
18:31 rue_bed I just had a dream that I couldn't remember where I lived
18:33 rue_bed my potatoes rotted
18:33 Tom_itx part of the dream or for real?
18:33 Tom_itx you planted them wrong
18:33 furrywolf did you see my 7-segment generator?
18:33 Tom_itx did you put a bit of sulfur by them?
18:33 rue_bed in the dream I knew I was paying a mortguage
18:33 rue_bed but there were 4 lots and I couldn't remember
18:34 rue_bed I found one I was sure of but I couldn't remember ever actually being there
18:34 rue_bed I went there and found a room to sleep in, and as I was nodding off, people came into the place
18:35 rue_bed turns out, the previous tennants lost all their money and came back
18:35 rue_bed has to be the only dream I was trying to get to sleep in
18:36 rue_bed it was odd, I knew what was on the lot, but I couldn't remmeber ever being IN the buildings
18:37 rue_bed and I couldn't remember where the lot was
18:37 rue_bed I was trying to nod off in some tall grass at the side of someones driveway
18:37 rue_bed it was night
18:38 rue_bed had a stupid cat bothering me
18:38 rue_bed the lot itself was featured in another dream
18:39 rue_bed 3 buildings, one a half rundown house, one a new rentable house, and one house waay down the lot by the sea I'v never been in
18:40 rue_bed I think living in a house too big causes a person to have strange dreams
18:43 rue_mohr wonder what happens if 'd gone to sleep in the dream
18:43 Tom_itx a 12' mech would come and squash you?
18:44 e_mohr half-eyed squints at furrys
18:45 rue_mohr wow
19:02 rue_mohr "the world is advanced by blurring the lines between reality and imagination"
19:10 furrywolf did you look at both http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c.txt and http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7segfont.txt ? now add a 16-segment display font, as I'm too lazy. :P
20:20 katsmeow-afk http://bit.ly/LIJlgj
20:20 tsmeow-afk was
20:23 katsmeow-afk http://news.yahoo.com/alabama-bans-beer-brand-over-dirty-name-label-171750979.html <<== BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — You can buy Fat Bastard wine in Alabama, but you'll have to go elsewhere for Dirty Bastard beer. The state alcoholic beverage control agency said Thursday it has banned the sale of that brand of beer in the state because of the profanity on its label.
20:23 katsmeow-afk Beer and wine are commonly sold in grocery and convenience stores and anyone can see the labels, so staff members rejected the brand because parents may not want young people to see rough language on the shelves, said Bob Martin, an attorney with the Alabama Alcoholic Beverage Control Board.
20:24 katsmeow-afk so "Fat Bastard" beer is fine for kids to see, but not "Dirty Bastard", that's way too "rough"!
20:27 ace4016 but of course
21:29 Tom_itx ok rue_mohr
21:29 Tom_itx you here?
21:32 Tom_L http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhU7S8kifJ4&feature=youtu.be
21:32 Tom_itx rue_mohr, there's your video
21:34 furrywolf rue_mohr: http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c.ascii.txt I made a program that produces itself as its output. :)
21:49 furrywolf actually, http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c.ascii-2.txt is much more readable
22:01 rue_mohr well
22:01 rue_mohr hahaha
22:01 rue_mohr your having fun
22:01 furrywolf :P
22:02 rue_mohr I was finishing some lights for the livingroom and hanging them
22:02 rue_mohr ooo you have the highsegment versions going
22:02 furrywolf I was working on gardening, then it started raining again, so I retreated back to the house again, and added 17-segment support.
22:02 rue_mohr its been pouring rain here all day
22:02 rue_mohr I WANT to go weld
22:03 furrywolf the fonts can be defined with any number of segments (well, up to INT_MAX or until you run out of ram)...
22:03 Tom_itx rue_mohr ^^ did you see?
22:09 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/16seg-asciitable.txt
22:10 rue_mohr yea, you beat me again furry
22:10 rue_mohr but my only goal was a 7 segment editor
22:10 furrywolf heh
22:10 furrywolf my only goal was to avoid doing anything productive.
22:10 rue_mohr your failed
22:10 furrywolf not feeling well, weather is crappy, and I've been working way too hard.
22:11 rue_mohr yea, its pouring rain
22:11 Tom_itx don't weld in the rain
22:12 furrywolf I'm not sure this program counts as productive.
22:12 rue_mohr furrywolf, damn good considering how much time it took you
22:13 furrywolf eh, I've only spent about a third of the time working on it... I've also done some gardening, installed a level indicator in my greenhouse that shows the level of the water in the raincatch tank, ate lunch, watched an episode of mythbusters, and started sorting four boxes of plumbing fittings.
22:14 furrywolf I can't be non-productive no matter how hard I try. :(
22:16 furrywolf it's sloppy code too.
22:20 furrywolf I don't dare run it through valgrind. :)
22:22 rue_mohr not saying I wouldn't do it differently
22:23 Tom_itx did you have kids today?
22:23 rue_mohr we got al the stuff unpacked and set back up
22:24 rue_mohr cleared the stuff from around the joint that needs to be rewelded
22:26 Tom_itx i think i got the wiring fixed finally
22:27 rue_mohr adding operations to the pendant?
22:27 Tom_itx i may work on that
22:28 rue_mohr did I buy a 3/4" twist drill?
22:28 Tom_itx finished wiring and debugging the box this evening i think
22:28 rue_mohr wait, for plastic I dont need a twist drill
22:28 Tom_itx no, it will shatter it
22:28 rue_mohr not hte stuff I have
22:28 furrywolf "<rue_mohr> not saying I wouldn't do it differently" heh, don't like my ugly code?
22:29 rue_mohr 'a function shall be no longer than the amount of text that reasonably fits on one screen'
22:30 furrywolf that makes it take longer to write, and it was a quick hack. :P
22:30 Tom_itx i wish you'd load up linuxcnc and give it a whirl
22:30 rue_mohr I know
22:30 rue_mohr you did a great job for the period of time you spent on it
22:30 rue_mohr your positivly int he groove
22:30 furrywolf lol
22:31 furrywolf you know you've written too much code, when you're dynamically allocating char ***s...
22:32 furrywolf in a quick hack.
22:33 rue_mohr heh
22:34 e_mohr tries to think the last time that happ
22:36 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/7seg/7seg.c.txt has been updated when I added 16-segment fonts... added newline support, and fixed a bug with left-side decimal points.
22:36 rue_mohr Status_t stringlistFini(char *** this) {
22:36 rue_mohr while(***this) {
22:36 rue_mohr free(**this);
22:36 rue_mohr (*this)++;
22:36 rue_mohr its a disaster waiting to happen
22:37 rue_mohr but it all fairness, its part of my regular expression engine
22:37 rue_mohr string2args(char * in, unsigned int * argc, char *** argv) ;
22:37 rue_mohr void stateCounter (int factors, int * states, int * stateItter, char ** factorNames, char *** stateNames, unsigned int ittercount)
22:38 furrywolf hrmm... that seems possibly broken? won't free zero-length strings?
22:38 rue_mohr rexMatch(char ** data, char * regex, char *** results);
22:38 rue_mohr dunno
22:39 furrywolf hrmm, in fact, does that even work?
22:39 rue_mohr want a copy of the whole thing? you give it a string and the regex, and it gives you back an array of results
22:39 furrywolf that seems like one of those bits of code that works by chance, not design. :)
22:40 rue_mohr if I'm past ** I'm usually stalled about 8 mins/line of code trying to mentally resolve whats data and whats pointer
22:40 furrywolf lol
22:40 rue_mohr add recursive code to it and it goes up to about 14 mins
22:40 rue_mohr while I'm trying to figure out if a line of code is being executed before its been called on
22:41 furrywolf I do suspect that bit of freeing code up there is broken, and both leaks memory and accesses already freed memory...
22:41 rue_mohr want to play with it?
22:41 furrywolf not really. heh.
22:41 rue_mohr it looks like its being debugged
22:42 furrywolf oh, it's not your code?
22:42 rue_mohr http://paste.debian.net/177166/
22:42 rue_mohr yup its mine
22:42 rue_mohr dunno what I wrote it for
22:43 rue_mohr oooh I was using it to make a expression evaluator
22:43 furrywolf I don't know for sure if it's broken, but it feels wrong, either it's going to try dereferencing one pointer past the last element, or it won't free the last element...
22:43 rue_mohr I used a state engine, I must have given up on the regex
22:44 rue_mohr data = strdup("12 - 4 8 > 12"); rexMatch(&data, "(-?\\d+\\.?\\d*)", &results);
22:46 rue_mohr trying to pick out values from the look of it
22:46 rue_mohr It was another frustration, there isn't a regex library that you dont have to do a bunch of setup junk to use
22:47 rue_mohr I wanted something I just throw a string an a regex at, and without re-calling it, get an array of results
22:48 rue_mohr I have an idea for a hinge I'm gonna go play with
22:51 furrywolf and I should get back sorting plumbing.
22:57 rue_shop furrywolf, you only do recreational coding dont you?
22:57 furrywolf yes
22:58 furrywolf why? it's so bad I obviously don't get paid to do it? heh
23:02 rue_shop no
23:09 rue_shop hmm need a 18mm bit
23:09 rue_shop 3/4" is too big
23:10 furrywolf mill it?
23:19 rue_shop I was thinking of grinding down an extra spade bit
23:19 rue_shop but I'm not inot all that right now
23:21 Tom_itx spade bit into plastic?
23:22 rue_shop works fine
23:22 rue_shop theBear,
23:22 rue_shop theBear,
23:22 rue_shop theBear, wake up
23:23 rue_shop !?!?! $11 for a 18mm spade bit?
23:23 rue_shop I see twist bits down to $9
23:28 rue_shop aha $2, thats more like it