#robotics Logs

Jun 23 2012

00:15 katsmeow-afk 6 results found for Automotice
00:36 rrywolf curls up on katsmeow-afk for bed
04:22 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk, pendant: http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant8.jpg
04:32 Tom_itx zhanx, P.30 31 show a pannel layout for a Fadal: http://www.compumachine.com/Support/Downloads/Fadal/Parts%20manual/Standard/0060__VMC_4020A.pdf
08:34 katsmeow-afk Tom, i know what your handheld portable cnc controller thingie is called, the reason i stumble is the definitions of "pendant" i have always worked with are listed on http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pendant
08:36 katsmeow-afk i remember you working on that pendant (does it have a lanyard on it so you can hang it around your neck, or a clip to wear it on a belt?)
08:36 katsmeow-afk if it isn't hanging down from something, my head balks at calling it a pendant
08:40 katsmeow-afk pendulous is synonymous with cernuous, drooping, hanging,,, it's related to pendulum, and to "chain or cord around the neck, with ornaments on it"
08:43 katsmeow-afk it's like worshipping a pet 4-legged god, the god being worth more love and finances than human children, the idea that in some countries human female babies are worth so little it's acceptable they be tossed out as garbage,,, some things i cannot wrap my head around
08:44 katsmeow-afk all that said, you did an amazingly nice bit of work on that "pendant" cnc controller
08:46 katsmeow-afk http://www.compumachine.com/Support/Downloads/
09:28 katsmeow-afk THIS JUST IN ==>> JEDEC Publishes First International Thermal Testing Standards for Light-Emitting Diodes (LEDs) JEDEC 23 May 2012 <<== LEDS HAVE BEEN AROUND OVER 40 YEARS (and now we can finally test them!)
09:32 GuShH jedec is run by half dead hams
09:32 GuShH katsmeow-afk has a thing for all humans, I just hate a couple huge groups of them.
09:38 katsmeow-afk specs on ddr3 super low power, super low voltage: 1.2 and 1.8 vcc power, and signal lines can change low-hi or high-low in 45 PICOseconds
09:39 tsmeow-afk stops rea
09:45 katsmeow-afk naturally, jitter would be measured in femtoseconds
09:46 katsmeow-afk no wonder some 7A29 come with variable delay lines in them
09:48 katsmeow-afk if one of your scope probes was 0.001 inch different length than the other, your measurements would be affected
09:50 katsmeow-afk the ddr3 in question is due out later this year, for laptops, and the 7A29 was obsoleted in the 1990's
09:50 katsmeow-afk i cannot wrap my limited mind around that disparity either
09:52 ShH hands katsmeow-afk some co
09:55 GuShH katsmeow-afk: why isn't there a picture of you holding a rifle in front of your house at your site?
09:55 katsmeow-afk because i cannot be there holding the rifle AND be taking thepic at the same time?
09:55 GuShH a) timers b) tripods, rocks, anything c) you are smarter than that
09:56 GuShH worst case scenario, mirror.
09:56 katsmeow-afk smarter than showing a pic of me holding a rifle out in front of my place?
09:57 GuShH lol
09:57 GuShH katsmeow-afk: I like humor...
09:59 katsmeow-afk lemme remind you, ONE neighbor sic'd rotts on me on my own property, and the law upheld his right to do so, and my paranoia is generated and bounded by that scenario (and fuzzy around the general stupidity of humans and .gov public policies)
09:59 GuShH doesn't mean you should live in fear, or let them win
10:00 katsmeow-afk only way to win in the usa is with money and good lawyers, have neither
10:01 katsmeow-afk you do not win with fence, rifles, dogs, religion, those are short term defensive solutions with attached problems
10:02 katsmeow-afk using fence, rifles, dogs, religion as offensive weapons is very problematic
10:03 katsmeow-afk using them offensively is what finally brought down the neighbors, but i do not know that is a permanent situation
10:03 GuShH katsmeow-afk: have they tried to buy your place for pennies yet?
10:03 katsmeow-afk they did
10:04 GuShH what is in your land exactly.
10:04 GuShH aside from you, who they see as a weak person.
10:04 GuShH which is not how I see you, but that doesn't matter since I'm not there.
10:04 katsmeow-afk the way the situation was set up, i'd have had them as landlords for several months after the property sale, this was unacceptable to me
10:05 katsmeow-afk small stream, 12 acres, secluded 3000 sq ft house w poured concrete exterior walls
10:07 katsmeow-afk the dump of a 30 yrs old trailer i'd have been moving to in Fla... could fit 3x into this livingroom, with space left over, and over 3ft more ceiling room too
10:07 katsmeow-afk the top floor walls are 10ft, the ceiling goes up from there
10:08 ShH_ sighs at his phone
10:08 katsmeow-afk the bottom floor is R50 insulation, a kerosene lamp is all the heat needed per room in winter
10:08 katsmeow-afk so you heard nothing i said
10:09 katsmeow-afk !logs
10:09 GuShH_ no :/
10:09 tsmeow-afk tries
10:09 GuShH_ It's been unstable all day long, and when I call for repairs they ignore me.
10:09 GuShH_ I need them to throw a new pair to my house
10:09 furrywolf grrrr, znc lost my buffer again.
10:09 furrywolf did I miss anything? heh
10:09 GuShH_ At the previous place it took cornering a guy to get it done.
10:09 GuShH_ I nearly had to punch the asshole to get him to do his work.
10:10 tsmeow-afk gves up cause GuShH_ isn't hearing in pm ei
10:10 GuShH_ I do!
10:11 katsmeow-afk thre, all copy/pasted
10:11 rrywolf stretches out on katsmeow-afk's
10:12 tsmeow-afk feels justi
10:13 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: used to live in a 6000 sq ft house, had to move because it was impossible to pay the taxes on it, they were asking 10 times minimum wage on them, monthly. it all has gone to hell in this country, the taxes are just impossible in some areas.
10:13 GuShH_ also had issues with neighbours.
10:13 GuShH_ one tried to rip me off.
10:13 furrywolf time fo a new government?
10:13 furrywolf for
10:14 ShH_ will serve them, eventu
10:14 GuShH_ furrywolf: this woman we have in charge is as corrupt as all the men that were behind her.
10:14 GuShH_ if not worse.
10:14 GuShH_ I could've ended in a ditch if it were for them.
10:15 katsmeow-afk they put her into power, and they are all she can delegate work to, or get data from, what did you expect?
10:15 GuShH_ The only solution is to kill all the politicians at once.
10:16 katsmeow-afk yea,, good luck with that
10:16 GuShH_ They could at least shoot her right?
10:16 GuShH_ They aren't even trying.
10:16 furrywolf you need a lot of people to do that.
10:16 furrywolf go round up a few thousand people who agree with you. :)
10:16 GuShH_ They all agree, they aren't insane enough to do it
10:16 GuShH_ Or have the balls to.
10:17 GuShH_ ..or the means..
10:17 katsmeow-afk she is a symptom, she'd be replaced with someone exactly the same
10:17 GuShH_ plus is there anything more illegal?
10:17 GuShH_ merely talking about it is illegal.
10:18 katsmeow-afk at least in the usa, it's not illegal, but it's still impossible to do logistically, a bad idea, and would be very pricey in several ways
10:18 furrywolf katsmeow-afk: it's very illegal in the USA.
10:18 katsmeow-afk talking is now illegal?
10:18 GuShH_ http://auto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-424543515-ford-34-hot-rod-unica-gnc-zf-motor-250-titular-_JM <<< wheres the gas cap? isn't it where the hole on the back is
10:19 katsmeow-afk hell, i been saying it's not a good idea to do any killing
10:19 GuShH_ what a retard, he runs it off compressed gas.
10:19 katsmeow-afk how is that illegal?
10:19 tsmeow-afk looks at f
10:19 furrywolf katsmeow-afk: advocating the overthrow of the US government is sedition, and illegal.
10:20 GuShH_ likewise with most countries I'm aware of
10:20 GuShH_ LPG hotrod... yeah, whatever.
10:20 katsmeow-afk a) i didn't, and b) i suggested it could not be done by force and C) it's perfectly legal to vote for opposition political parties
10:21 katsmeow-afk ergo, i engaged in the conversation, and broke no laws
10:21 GuShH_ why are you turning it on you all of a sudden
10:21 GuShH_ I said I'd be in trouble just for talking about it.
10:21 katsmeow-afk furry said *I* wold be also
10:22 GuShH_ Don't know, we were talking about Argentina.
10:22 GuShH_ If anything please come and take over the country.
10:22 GuShH_ (That also ought to be illegal)
10:23 furrywolf no, our government says it's perfectly legal to invade and occupy foreign countries, as long as we're the ones doing it.
10:23 GuShH_ lol
10:23 GuShH_ Illegal for me though.
10:23 katsmeow-afk nah, i did suggest taking over Somalia, and converting the entire country into a robot and Ai factory, allowing all side effects to benefit the locals there
10:23 GuShH_ uh... you've got my vote.
10:24 GuShH_ katsmeow-afk: do you get water from a well or collect rainwater?
10:24 GuShH_ poor thing, all rusted out... http://auto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-150665885-liquido-ford-a-featom-1929-en-marcha-original-_JM
10:25 katsmeow-afk ocean water converted to clean cooling water becomes drinking water, excess solar power is given to locals, training robots to do work is used to grow food and make thngs for locals, etc,,, in exchange for freedom to use the land and "alt power" as desired
10:25 ShH_ likes classics, but can't really afford to restore
10:26 katsmeow-afk GuShH_, i did have county water, but they demonstrated i was not worth a phone call to keep the water turned on, so i am using other water sources
10:26 furrywolf I'd much rather take over somolia myself, and start some form of government that actually benefits the people.
10:27 katsmeow-afk http://designerthinking.com/water.html
10:28 katsmeow-afk governments need money to run, hence a robot/Ai factory using ocean cooling and equatorial sun heat
10:28 GuShH_ bleh I should be doing stuff
10:31 furrywolf so should I, but I'm tired, and despite being on kat's lap haven't gotten any pets at all!
10:31 ace4016 http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-10/15/robots-punching-humans
10:31 ace4016 sounds kinky
10:31 tsmeow-afk was multitasking with all available
10:32 katsmeow-afk weren't they doing that pain thing last year?
10:33 ace4016 that article is dated 2010 :P
10:34 GuShH_ I'm fixing the concrete box where the gas meter goes, someone/something broke it and a new one costs too much. I think the best way to tie all the pieces together would be to drill holes and use twisted wire, then concrete on top... I tried just tile mix, didn't seem to work properly, then concrete with wire mesh, also failed.
10:34 GuShH_ so I should get the drill...
10:35 katsmeow-afk ok, 2 yrs ago
10:35 GuShH_ they make them out of fillter material and concrete mix, which ends up being quite brittle since it's mostly filler with a thin layer of concrete for aesthetics
10:35 GuShH_ the filler comes from the beach, from what I could see... but now they're using styrofoam, which is even worse.
10:36 katsmeow-afk beach sand is coated with organics which tend to be hard for the lime to adhere thru
10:37 GuShH_ they want you to pay 300 ARs for a styrofoam box covered in concrete
10:38 GuShH_ 2mm of concrete.
10:38 GuShH_ If you sneeze it may break.
10:38 GuShH_ So why bother, I'll just fix this and cover it with a thick layer concrete.
10:39 GuShH_ couple holes for the reinforcing wire and it should last for many years.
10:39 katsmeow-afk will the weight of your fix crush the existing structure?
10:43 tsmeow-afk goes away to engage reality
14:04 yahweh hey Rue, what are you up to today?
14:38 katsmeow-afk rue is way afk
17:05 GuShH katsmeow-afk: some part of your site points to this http://designerthinking.com/html.html which doesn't exist
17:06 GuShH I think it's the programming section
17:09 katsmeow-afk right, i deleted it when css happened, because it was about useing html to do page layout, and in IE5/6 days, it was non-compliant
17:10 katsmeow-afk i have the page locally
17:11 katsmeow-afk years ago, it wasn't possible to make a paragraph start indented in IE, except to use alot of <nobr> ...... </nobr> , and thet was usually screwy,, but i found using<dd> worked well, so i mentioned that, and other things
17:12 katsmeow-afk now, this works:
17:12 katsmeow-afk <STYLE TYPE="text/css">
17:12 katsmeow-afk 
17:12 katsmeow-afk </STYLE>
17:13 katsmeow-afk <p class="par">paragraph starts this way .... ends this way.</p>
17:14 katsmeow-afk IE would not resize pics in <tables> , but FF was really slow if you placed width="100%" in an <img tag
17:16 katsmeow-afk neither would let you make a "bulleted" paragraph and NOT wordwrap up under th ebullet, except in a table, and then you weren't restrcted to the stock <li> image any more either
17:16 katsmeow-afk i should edit the index.html anyhow, none of the new pages this yr arelinked from it
17:17 GuShH I think I unleashed a part of katsmeow-afk
17:17 GuShH ...part of which I have not seen to date.
17:17 katsmeow-afk ?
17:18 GuShH well one simple comment led to a rant!
17:18 katsmeow-afk not a rant, i exlained why the page was missing
17:18 GuShH yes and then you ranted about IE being shit
17:18 GuShH which it is, and always will be.
17:19 katsmeow-afk well, in those days, ff was worse shit
17:19 katsmeow-afk it wasn't even FF, ir was Mozilla
17:21 katsmeow-afk i stillmix <tables> and css, which you can see in the source for any of my prettir newer pages, whichever works, i aim to make it look nice on FF, and then it sometimes works on IE as well
17:21 katsmeow-afk as side effect is peole tell me it then renders nice on mobi devices too
17:22 GuShH :P
17:22 GuShH I haven't worried about that in a long time, I just went for a common cms / blog platform
17:23 GuShH ...gave up in a sense, and in another sense I didn't want to be coding all the time, just want to post whatever randomness comes out of my head.
17:23 katsmeow-afk i wanted to do pages like i do
17:24 GuShH You always do things the way you want.
17:24 GuShH Why wouldn't you -_-
17:27 katsmeow-afk i need to go do thngs some more, bbl
20:23 ferdna I WANT A WELDER!!!
20:24 furrywolf so get one?
20:31 zhanx or get a couple of batteries and a charger
20:44 GuShH ferdna: you'll need a welder for your welder too.
20:55 ferdna furrywolf, i can't i am poor...
20:55 ferdna GuShH, how is that?
20:56 ferdna zhanx, i need a welder not a batt charger
20:56 ferdna i was thinking:
20:56 ferdna http://www.ebay.com/itm/221053573977?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
20:57 GuShH ferdna: because just owning welding equipment doesn't make you a welder.
20:57 GuShH and that said, it's not just a welder you need, you need the supplies and safety gear too.
20:57 ferdna lol
20:57 GuShH as well as many other tools that are a must-have
20:57 ferdna i get it now
20:57 furrywolf I'd highly suggest starting with MIG, not tig or stick.
20:57 ferdna GuShH, anyone who welds is a welder... =P
20:58 ferdna furrywolf, i've done stuff with stick...
20:58 GuShH furrywolf: too expensive for someone who can't afford even a smaw unit
20:58 furrywolf oh, so you already know how to weld.
20:58 ferdna furrywolf, no, not really.
20:59 ferdna but i've done some stuff with it...
20:59 GuShH he just shorted the electrode to the work piece and watched it turn red and melt
20:59 ferdna lol
21:00 furrywolf most of those cheap inverter welders can't do ac output, which means some rods suck and you can't tig aluminum.
21:00 furrywolf I don't see enough controls to make me think that one can.
21:00 ferdna i've done windows bars....
21:00 GuShH stick takes a lot more of practice since the entire shebang is in that particular piece, both the shielding and the electrode, you don't get to hold one steady and feed the other... so the coordination when feeding and pushing the puddle is what gets most people.
21:00 ferdna fences
21:00 ferdna and some other stuff...
21:01 GuShH that and probably arc length.
21:01 furrywolf I gave up on stick... my hands are too shakey. can't keep the arc lit without sticking the rod.
21:01 GuShH moar amps!
21:01 furrywolf I can do mig... acceptably. I won't call myself good, but things don't break.
21:03 furrywolf http://fw.bushytails.net/wellbit01.jpg looks like the only picture of my welding I have. was done with an underpowered welder (using a little 110V job on 1/4" steel...).
21:04 GuShH furrywolf: did you line the well with pipe after drilling?
21:04 furrywolf yes. otherwise it collapses, and you have a slight depression in the ground, not a well.
21:05 GuShH how deep did you go
21:05 furrywolf 30ft
21:05 GuShH and you get bacteria free, heavy-metal free water?
21:05 furrywolf was planning on 40, but the mud pump seized.
21:05 GuShH I think at 10 meters here I would get piss water.
21:06 furrywolf it's crystal clear and seems good, but I haven't had it tested.
21:06 GuShH 50-60 is the norm for good quality water, anything under that will get you high calcium content and possibly bacteria as well.
21:06 GuShH (here, where I'm standing)
21:06 furrywolf my neighbor at my last place had a 10ft well.
21:07 furrywolf it fed a 2hp pump all day long without going dry.
21:07 furrywolf except during the end of summer, where you could only run the pump at full flow for a couple hourse.
21:07 furrywolf hours
21:07 GuShH where was all the water going to?
21:07 furrywolf irrigation, horses, washing stalls, etc.
21:11 GuShH at 10 meters it's very easy to get leakage from a septic system leachfield...
21:11 furrywolf yep, especially since I backfilled the hole with mud instead of concrete.
21:11 GuShH which is how you get bacteria in the water, primarily
21:11 furrywolf I needed a larger bit; didn't leave enough room on the sides to get concrete down.
21:12 GuShH :(
21:12 GuShH I need to figure out a way to test the water here, since I don't want to give a lab 500 bucks (they're nuts)
21:13 GuShH bacteria wise I could get an agar dish and see what grows... but I don't have a fancy microscope or knowledge..
21:13 furrywolf lab here is only $25, but I want to do some things before testing the water, like put a lid on the storage tank. right now it gets rainwater and crap in it too.
21:14 furrywolf there's also an air leak in the suction line somewhere.
21:14 GuShH I've read the procedure the lab makes you do to get the samples, they even say you should heat up the faucet with a torch to eliminate bacteria from it.
21:14 GuShH (what if it's plastic?)
21:15 furrywolf lol
21:15 GuShH I would get the sample from the inlet line at the tank and another one at a random faucet, test them both.
21:16 GuShH checking for bacteria may be doable at home if you are careful when taking the samples but... what about heavy metals, etc?
21:16 GuShH there are lots of factors that make water safe, or not.
21:16 furrywolf yes. but I want to seal the tank and stuff first, because otherwise I _know_ it will fail, since it gets organic matter in the missing lid on top of the tank.
21:17 ShH wants to do it him
21:18 GuShH I recently got up to the water tower (new place, I'm still figuring things out) at least the tank is covered with a concrete lid, but I need to replace the floater for the pump switch.
21:18 furrywolf my plan is to carbon filter then R/O the water, and assume whatever comes out is good.
21:18 GuShH I should get a couple filters in there, but the piping is steel and I don't have the tools to do it.
21:19 furrywolf pipe wrenches are cheap.
21:19 GuShH well, I need to cut a chunk out, then thread both sides.
21:19 GuShH I can't do the latter.
21:20 GuShH I could if it were plastic...
21:20 furrywolf most hardware stores, at least here, will thread ends for you if you buy the pipe from them... so unscrew it to the next coupler and replace the whole 10ft section.
21:22 GuShH doesn't sound practical
21:24 furrywolf keep in mind cutting a chunk out means you need a union to put it back together, too.
21:24 GuShH maybe I could replace one section with pvc
21:24 furrywolf if you're just installing an RO system, use a saddle tap.
21:24 GuShH furrywolf: the idea is to inline a couple filters, right now there are a few big pipes straight from the tank down to the ground and into the house
21:33 furrywolf or any other low-flow drinking water only system.
21:33 furrywolf and my internet connection seems to be failing. blah. bbl.
21:34 GuShH yeah I just got [23:22] furrywolf: or any other low-flow drinking water only system. after my last message.