#robotics Logs
May 26 2012
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00:05 katsmeow-afk so, gotta take it all apart, dry it, and do my usual fix-it-first-and-permanently procedure: epoxy the connectors together
00:12 rue_mohr r0?
00:19 katsmeow-afk esrever osmosis
00:19 rue_mohr hmm
00:20 rue_mohr !assist art/woke.png
00:20 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/art/woke.png
00:20 rue_mohr damn
00:20 rue_mohr !assist art/wokeup.png
00:20 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/art/wokeup.png
00:21 rue_mohr like it or not, there is cartoon 1
00:22 katsmeow-afk with clothes on!
00:22 rue_mohr :)
00:35 rue_mohr ok
00:35 rue_mohr !assist art/parameters.png
00:35 tobbor Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/art/parameters.png
00:35 rue_mohr ?
00:40 e4016 pats rue on the
00:41 rue_mohr I'll come up with good ones later
00:44 rue_mohr grr think I'm catching a cold
00:49 katsmeow-afk heh
01:21 katsmeow-afk i think one of the check valves is already worthless
01:21 katsmeow-afk it's real high resistant to blowing thru
01:23 rue_mohr yay, for the first time I can get values back from the servos
01:24 katsmeow-afk that's valuable :-)
01:28 rue_mohr ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
01:28 rue_mohr ? ? ?
01:28 rue_mohr ? Servo reports paramiter 1 with value 512 ? ?
01:28 rue_mohr ? ? ?
01:28 rue_mohr ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
01:28 rue_mohr paramiter 1 is position
01:29 katsmeow-afk but which servo?
01:30 rue_mohr you can only query one at a time
01:30 rue_mohr so its the last one you queried
01:31 rue_mohr Servo reports paramiter 0 with value 547 <- paramiter 0 is the current sense, its not connected to anything right now
01:31 katsmeow-afk o
01:32 rue_mohr Servo reports paramiter 2 with value 3 <-- paramiter 2 is the firmware version
01:32 rue_mohr Servo reports paramiter 2 with value 4
01:32 rue_mohr one board has a new firmware version
01:34 rue_mohr the firmware version was more meant as a way of autodetecting servos
01:34 rue_mohr if you dont get a reply, nobodys home
01:35 tsmeow-afk
01:38 katsmeow-afk i forgot the The New Christy Minstrels too :-(
01:39 katsmeow-afk Spanky & Our Gang !
01:40 katsmeow-afk oh, i got it
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 000: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 001: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 002: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 003: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 004: version 4
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 005: version 4
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 006: version 4
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 007: version 4
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 008: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 009: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 010: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 011: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 012: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 013: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 014: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 015: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 016: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 017: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 018: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr Servo 019: version 3
01:51 rue_mohr sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
01:54 tsmeow-afk offers a nice handcrafted box of congratulations to
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 000: position: 524
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 001: position: 864
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 002: position: 507
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 003: position: 512
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 004: position: 512
01:54 rue_mohr Servo 005: position: 870
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 006: position: 860
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 007: position: 505
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 008: position: 511
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 009: position: 803
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 010: position: 503
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 011: position: 496
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 012: position: 519
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 013: position: 828
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 014: position: 616
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 015: position: 524
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 016: position: 947
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 017: position: 836
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 018: position: 820
01:55 rue_mohr Servo 019: position: 807
01:55 rue_mohr ------| End of list |------
01:55 rue_mohr SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
01:56 rue_mohr now, if I could just upload sets of positions to it....
01:58 e_mohr does a backup of the
01:58 rue_mohr well, that does about all its supposed to
01:58 katsmeow-afk did you get a leg to move?
01:59 rue_mohr yes, all of them move
01:59 rue_mohr today i even managed to sheet a shaft off one of the motors
01:59 rue_mohr fixed already
01:59 katsmeow-afk sheet = shear ?
02:00 rue_mohr yes
02:00 rue_mohr plasic shafts
02:00 katsmeow-afk oh
02:00 rue_mohr its the second one to break
02:00 rue_mohr but buddy is like 7 years old now
02:01 katsmeow-afk but buddy has never been off the table?
02:01 rue_mohr ....
02:02 rue_mohr well now that its working this much I need to break it all
02:02 rue_mohr the motors need a minor wire swap,
02:02 rue_mohr a trace needs to be cut on the driver boards
02:02 rue_mohr and I have to make 5 more overload/current sense boards
02:04 rue_mohr I have to find the servo command dispatcher program I wrote
02:04 rue_mohr and tie it into the bvh player I made
02:04 rue_mohr and make a bvh model for buddy
02:04 rue_mohr then I should be able to get some dancing going
02:04 rue_mohr and I win the challange I set out ... years ago now
02:05 katsmeow-afk :-)
02:05 rue_mohr but its been about 12 hours since I ate, so that takes some prescedence
02:06 katsmeow-afk i am tempted to put water pressure on the ro stuff again, it's been an hour for the 5 minute epoxy to dry
02:06 katsmeow-afk i'll do that while you consume nourishment
02:12 katsmeow-afk ok, no leaks
02:13 katsmeow-afk i set a gallon jug and a timer
02:13 katsmeow-afk surprising amount of bypass water, i have got to find a use for that, like plant watering, toilet flushing, etc
02:22 rue_mohr :) good show kat
02:23 katsmeow-afk <curtsey>
02:25 rue_mohr hmm I overwhelmed myself with progress
02:25 rue_mohr I better go out and kill the servo power tho
02:26 e_mohr waits for the rice to
02:30 katsmeow-afk if i wantes some 6inch long pieces of 1/4 or 5/16 or 3/8 or 7/16 stainless steel tubing, where would i look?
02:31 rue_mohr a pulp mill
02:31 rue_mohr ?
02:31 katsmeow-afk i don't have one of those
02:31 rue_mohr :/
02:31 katsmeow-afk why would they have them?
02:31 rue_mohr I dont get much stainless
02:31 rue_mohr they use stainless cuase of the chemicals they use
02:32 katsmeow-afk in 6 inch long pieces?
02:34 katsmeow-afk ah : http://www.ebay.com/sch/nybrewsupply/m.html?hash=item43a6feffb7&item=290564538295&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562
02:35 katsmeow-afk pricey shipping
02:56 katsmeow-afk ok, timer didn't
02:57 katsmeow-afk i reset it all, and put the bypass line in a 5 gal bucket
02:57 katsmeow-afk the first RO water smelled like pvc pipe cleaner and glue
02:58 katsmeow-afk but it did a gallon in 45 minutes
02:59 katsmeow-afk so 32 gallons/day , which i can use to wash veggies and dishes and things
03:38 katsmeow-afk ok, looks like 3 gallons of bypass water for each gallon of clean water, every 45 minutes
03:46 katsmeow-afk as soon as i can find which box has the cables to connect camera to computer, i'll take some pictures and post them up
11:49 rue_bed any01746531, do you know if its ok for arsnic?
11:52 rue_bed hmm
11:52 rue_bed I guess the next version of the manual control for buddy should be command line based
11:53 Tom_itx what are we doing today Mr rue?
11:53 Tom_itx btw good on the cerial working
11:53 rue_bed then I can get more complex with it
11:53 rue_bed mm!
11:53 Tom_itx only 3 chips got updated though
11:54 rue_bed the robotics kid that always shows up canceled for today, and neither of the other ones said they were gonna come, so I guess its off for today
11:54 Tom_itx gone fishin..
11:54 rue_bed each controller does 4 channels, so one controller is ver 4, rest are 3
11:55 rue_bed 4 has extra debugging and a bug fix
11:55 rue_bed the regular is working with the local cablevision channel, he does the camera op for them from time to time
11:56 rue_bed I should see if he's interested in building the boom arm robot that I designed
11:57 e_bed stret
11:57 Tom_itx bad sleep night here
11:57 Tom_itx ached all night
11:57 rue_bed were you trying to perform the skate board jump that homer failed?
11:59 Tom_itx no
11:59 rue_bed were you working under a truck?
12:01 rue_bed or maybe you were moving that power supply
12:01 rue_bed ?
12:01 rue_bed just too active yesterday?
12:01 rue_bed tornado and the house fell on you?
12:02 rue_bed tried to slow yourself down with a tree while skiing?
12:02 rue_bed worked as a doorman for wallmart on a super sale event?
12:03 rue_bed throwing brush into a chipper and forgot to let go?
12:03 rue_bed abducted by aliens?
12:03 rue_bed new excersize machine?
12:04 Tom_itx just age
12:04 rue_bed oh
12:04 Tom_itx or some new ailment
12:05 Tom_itx the power supply works good
12:06 Tom_itx just wish i had the day to work on it more
12:06 Tom_itx gotta be 'domestic' a while
12:08 rue_bed the roommate was asking for help with his computer yeterday and I pointed out he was detracting from my take-over-the-world time, and that if I died 1 minute before taking over the world it would be completely his fault
12:09 Tom_itx i've already taken over the world
12:09 Tom_itx i gave it back when i saw what shape it was in
12:09 rue_bed yea there isn't much to work with
12:10 rue_bed I think I need to work on full scale mockups of the 12' mecha
12:10 rue_bed otheriwise I dont think I can get the design right
12:11 Tom_itx some guy devised a multi year plan to recreate a working star trek enterprise
12:11 Tom_itx 20 year plan
12:11 Tom_itx i should have posted that
12:12 Tom_itx he was a respected engineer and the plan sounded feasable
12:13 rue_bed I dont know if there is enough flashing lamps, red, green, and blue paint to finish it tho
12:13 rue_bed what about the design flaws, the enterprise only has 1 bathroom
12:14 Tom_itx i never see them eat
12:19 rue_bed I need to get the mecha control cage well started this summer
12:19 rue_bed I have to get that roller cast
12:20 rue_bed I need to come up with a thermocouple or something to check the aluminum temp
12:20 rue_bed tho it sounds like the best time to pour is when its still a little over freezing
12:21 Tom_itx why?
12:21 rue_bed its a tossup between it not getting into the corners cause its too thick and it being so hot it shrinks alot when its in the mould
12:26 Tom_itx preheat the mold
12:28 rue_mohr cant
12:28 rue_mohr the foam expands and blows the plaster apart
12:28 rue_mohr and its too big
12:32 Tom_itx ok, have a good day. i'm gone for a while
12:53 katsmeow-afk saw the piece on building the Enterprise, the gotcha is getting the rockets to lift all that weight into orbit
12:57 katsmeow-afk Recent University of Colorado Boulder college graduate Zoey Ripple, 21, was unarmed and intoxicated when she entered the multimillion dollar home of Doreen Orion and Timothy Justice through an unlocked screen door on Wednesday night. So the homeowners shot and wounded her.
12:57 katsmeow-afk The Boulder County District Attorney said that Ripple isn't the only drunk college student to wander into someone's home--there are some 12 to 15 cases each year, which often lead to violence.
13:01 katsmeow-afk given two scenarios: ONE 1Ghz puter with a Tbyte of ram versus a THOUSAND 1Mhz puters with 1Tbyte of distributed ram, why do i keep thinking the 1000 1Mhz puters will do a bruteforce search of the Tbyte faster than the single 1Ghz puter?
13:14 katsmeow-afk The Postal Service wants to reduce its workforce by 150,000 by 2015, though Saunders said he had "nothing to announce" regarding potential buyouts for other USPS employees.
13:15 katsmeow-afk 50,000 per year for the next 3 years
13:33 e_mohr recovers from his sh
13:34 katsmeow-afk all that dihydrogen monoxide all over you? you realise that stuff can kill you if you breathe it?
13:35 katsmeow-afk most cats know about that stuff and avoid it at all costs
13:40 charolastra_ it's also poisonous if ingested in large quantities
13:42 katsmeow-afk and it can dissolve almost anything, it's used in almost every cleaning liquid ever made!
13:42 katsmeow-afk even 2000 yrs ago, people washed their clothes in it
13:45 charolastra_ that was ok because it was organic, but nowerdays ....
13:46 katsmeow-afk i never heard "nowerdays" before
13:49 charolastra_ hmm, that might be because it's spelled "nowadays" correctly :/
13:49 katsmeow-afk ah
13:49 katsmeow-afk that's how i always spelled it
13:55 rue_mohr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_otrgJ8Lmx4&feature=player_embedded
13:56 rue_mohr ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 8-| he said almost everything its taken me years to work out
13:56 katsmeow-afk Chromebook : how to make damned sure the gov knows everything you do as you do it
13:56 tsmeow-afk goes to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_otrgJ8Lmx4 ins
13:56 katsmeow-afk wait, i have no audio
13:57 katsmeow-afk so i disagree with eervything i hear him say
13:58 katsmeow-afk is there a transcript of what he said? is it important enough?
13:58 katsmeow-afk i don't have the bandwidth to watch it, it feeses every other second
13:59 katsmeow-afk i doubt furry can watch it eitehr
14:00 rue_mohr damnit kat, you have to get audio
14:00 rue_mohr he talks about the drive and importance of people who make things
14:00 katsmeow-afk i make things
14:01 rue_mohr a speech I wish I could make to the world.
14:01 katsmeow-afk i am not important, cept to maybe you and Tom and zhanx
14:02 tsmeow-afk yanks a feather from the duckinator, and picks her fangs clean wit
14:11 katsmeow-afk that 5kva transformer went for $5.50 , prolly because i bid $5, else it was going for $1.25
14:12 katsmeow-afk at $1.25, the guy would have made more money selling it as scrap
14:14 rue_mohr he made the money on the s&h
14:16 katsmeow-afk HD74ALVCF162834TEL , it's an 18bit latch , afaik it's 2 bits more than a 74abt373 , and it's going for 10cents/chip on ebay
14:16 katsmeow-afk nope, pickup only
14:18 katsmeow-afk would have cost me $18 in gas to go get it, but i don't require it at this time,,, later i will kick myself in the butt when i do need it
14:29 katsmeow-afk ~1983, my income was $30k, i had a job, i was good at it...... $30,000.00 in 1983 had the same buying power as $69,366.39 in 2012. but now i have no job and am not important
14:29 tsmeow-afk pokes at
14:29 tsmeow-afk savors her filtered creek w
14:45 katsmeow-afk i remember in the 1960's one could buy a 2 bedroom house in a subdivision on 1/4 acre for $15k
14:46 katsmeow-afk it's odd that now housing is outrageous, and almost any computer you buy with an OS is more powerful than any computer made in the 1960's
14:47 katsmeow-afk but the basic new car prices in the usa have only doubled, unless you buy special import microvehicles (from India, for instance)
15:06 rue_mohr and gas prices have too
15:06 rue_mohr katsmeow-afk, good show!
15:09 katsmeow-afk hmm?
15:13 katsmeow-afk we really should have C3PO's by now
15:13 katsmeow-afk or is it 3CP0 ?
15:14 katsmeow-afk or is it 3CPÔÕØOÒÓÔÕØOÒÓÔÕØ ?
15:18 katsmeow-afk if there were no trees on earth, would we all live in sintered sand castles?
15:19 tsmeow-afk imagines roving bands of 50ft wide makerbots printing out ho
15:20 katsmeow-afk a long line of makerbots crossing the sand, eating sand and leaving brick droppings behind them
15:20 Skwint that's probably not a bad guess at the future :p
15:23 katsmeow-afk rounded fuzzy pyramid apartment complexes made of sintered sand
15:24 katsmeow-afk all the terrace awnings made of pv panels (made somewhere else by other makerbots eating sands)
15:24 Skwint followed by a consequent collapse of the global economies, the death of modern civilization
15:24 Skwint and ultimately a bunch of grey bearded egyptologists trying to explain it
15:24 katsmeow-afk i dunno, civilisation can still provide otehr things
15:25 Skwint people ... we don't seem to be running out of people ...
15:25 katsmeow-afk ancient egypt isn't a good model for the future, i hope
15:34 rue_shop ok got hte fuel pipes to the smelter fixed and have it fired up
15:35 rue_shop wonder if I should try to cast this roller...
15:37 katsmeow-afk Google said it is now receiving more removal requests each week than it received in all of 2009. Last month, Google got 1.2 million such requests from 1,000 copyright holders to remove links from 23,000 websites.
15:38 katsmeow-afk thing is, it doesn, it cannot, remove the links pointing to the webpages to be removed, so it hasto remove the page url that points to the page to be removed from search
15:38 katsmeow-afk if 50 sites point to a page that demands it be removed, google hasto remove those 50 sites
15:39 katsmeow-afk http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/24/technology/google-search-copyright/index.htm
15:43 katsmeow-afk calculations say that paying $20/hr and taking average 11 hrs to remove links, costs $264,000,000 to remove those 1.2 million requests
15:44 katsmeow-afk or $8.8 million per day
15:45 home so
15:46 home I want to make a quadcopter
15:46 katsmeow-afk now, how to plant a big garden in a big hurry with no space cleared, and no money, and the dirt on the ground is only an inch deep before needing a jackhammer (for real) to dig into
15:46 home they are so sick, I would love to have the ability to fly something and monitor people :D
15:46 home or... my neighbours..hehe
15:47 katsmeow-afk home, they aren't quiet, and don't stay up long, and glide like rocks
15:48 home rover or uab..why not both
15:49 katsmeow-afk at least with wings, you could crash it back on your own property when the motor power dies
15:49 home bleh, I hate you
15:49 katsmeow-afk you crash it on their property, and they own your ass
15:49 home why you make me reconsider everything?
15:49 katsmeow-afk it's good for you :-)
15:49 home I think ill build a plane, a rover, and a ..uhmm quadcopter...
15:51 katsmeow-afk quadcpers are fine where nose doesn't matter, you can afford the batteries (even rechargeables die), and monitoring is real short time from high up where they cannot be seen or heard (meaning pricey cameras and image stabilisation)
15:53 home stupid link
15:54 tsmeow-afk hasto go do things irl
15:54 katsmeow-afk bbl
16:06 rue_shop haha I need more ingot forms
16:06 rue_shop poured two ingots and I still have half a pot of aluminum left
16:06 rue_shop and it was only half full to start with
16:10 rue_shop well, thats 2 more bars for now, but more importantly I proved its all working again
17:28 rue_mohr so I think I'll make a pvc mockup of the mecha frame
17:29 Tom_itx waste of good platic
17:29 Tom_itx plastic*
17:30 Tom_itx go for the real thing
17:31 rue_mohr na I think I need to flush out stuff I'll never know about till I try to build it
17:33 Tom_itx now that it's good and hot in the garage i guess i'll go work on the mill
17:45 rue_mohr put a smelter in the garage and you can make it good and hot whenever you want
17:46 Tom_itx that's ok
18:16 katsmeow-afk now that it's cooling off upstairs so i can work up there, i think i'll goto the lake
18:17 Tom_itx sounds like a plan
18:17 Tom_itx hope you can tolerate ppl better than me
18:18 katsmeow-afk if there's humans there, i won't last long
18:18 katsmeow-afk i been known to show up there at 1am just to avoid them
18:18 katsmeow-afk ditto grocery shopping
18:19 katsmeow-afk i propped open the back porch door earlier to let air in and up the elevator shaft hatch, that helped
18:20 katsmeow-afk got the 5gal buckets out there cleared of most weeds, but it was too hot in the sun to finish
18:21 katsmeow-afk got some wall put up behind the big lathe, which isn't finished, but when using the grinder i do not want sparkles flying into the rest of the house
18:22 rue_shop hmm what to work on next
18:23 katsmeow-afk the big lathe is supposed to be down in the cellar, where i cast a slab for it to sit on, but with the DA and the gods, i can't use it
18:24 atom1 zlog,
18:24 katsmeow-afk rue, work on a batetry that puts out as much hp per cu ft as an equal volume of diesel fuel
18:25 katsmeow-afk i need some, furry needs some, and your mecha will need some
18:25 katsmeow-afk so will your EV truck
18:25 atom1 ok, that works
18:25 katsmeow-afk it does?
18:25 atom1 or maybe not
18:26 katsmeow-afk you didn't actually ask it anything
18:26 katsmeow-afk zlog, what's 2+2 ?
18:26 katsmeow-afk zlog, i haveto loook thru the channel logs where someone else has asked and you anseered?
18:27 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:27 katsmeow-afk ya know, if everyone in here said zlog just once, it would flood you off the irc
18:28 rue_shop zlog
18:28 tsmeow-afk has useless expereince working bots on
18:28 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:28 rue_shop zlog
18:28 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:28 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:28 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:28 katsmeow-afk zlog
18:28 rue_shop :)
18:28 katsmeow-afk zero flood control in that bot
18:28 rue_shop or the op would kick us for abusing the bot
18:29 katsmeow-afk i hate it when humans do that to Tiggr
18:29 atom1 limit switches must be backwards
18:29 katsmeow-afk if zlog was a mirc bot, i cold send Tom code on how to fix that
18:29 atom1 i'd swear i had those working
18:30 rue_shop it only tries to move into the limit switch when its up against it?
18:30 atom1 no
18:30 atom1 it won't release the machine to me because it thinks they are tripped
18:30 katsmeow-afk a hammer usually fixes that
18:32 katsmeow-afk afk,, maybe, but i doubt it, i go wading, or swimming, or fall off the dock, or something
18:32 atom1 ok it seems things are backwards on these drivers
18:33 katsmeow-afk i don't even know how much water is in the lake atm
18:34 katsmeow-afk but i think it may call for a lawn chair to go sit in it, a compromise tween wading and,,,,,,,,,, something
18:34 katsmeow-afk bbl
18:34 atom1 i gotta go find my notes on this
20:20 rue_shop EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FOO PAAANDA!
20:49 rue_mohr I started scratch building a sensor out of mouse parts for the mowerbot caster rotation sense
20:49 rue_mohr wonder if I can use veroboard instead of cutting a custom pcb
20:50 atom1 meh don't be lazy
20:50 rue_mohr if it works does it really matter?
20:52 rue_mohr the bigger problem is how to get the signal off the castor wheel
20:53 rue_mohr id love to do an optic link down the middle of the pin, but this one uses a solid pin, and its a small one too
20:55 atom1 rue if you're measuring 2 ac phases on a scope, what should your trigger setting be?
20:55 atom1 A&B?
20:55 rue_mohr whicher one you want to reference from
20:55 atom1 doesn't matter
20:55 atom1 but i wanna see if they're 180 out of phase
20:55 rue_mohr lock on to either one and you will see
20:56 atom1 http://imagebin.org/214022
20:56 rue_mohr their in phase
20:57 atom1 they shouldn't be though should they?
20:57 rue_mohr I dont know what they are
20:57 atom1 220v ac
20:57 atom1 both phases
20:57 rue_mohr from neutral, they should be opposite
20:58 atom1 how can i test that?
20:58 atom1 or view it rather
20:58 rue_mohr with a multimeter do you get 120V from groud to either leg but 240V between them?
20:59 rue_mohr I cant tell if your 'invert' button is on or off
20:59 atom1 me either
20:59 atom1 not my pic
20:59 atom1 we checked for that though
21:00 atom1 you should be able to view the phase difference
21:00 rue_mohr yup, one should be upside down
21:01 rue_mohr assuming its in america
21:01 rue_mohr if its in england and australlia they only have 1 phase
21:01 atom1 what settings are wrong then?
21:01 atom1 no
21:01 atom1 usa
21:01 rue_mohr I dont see anyting set wrong
21:01 rue_mohr but I cant tell what alot of the things are set to and I odnt know how the probes are conneted
21:01 atom1 channel 2 'alt' instead of chop?
21:02 rue_mohr my first question would be to push the 'invert' button and see if it looks right
21:02 rue_mohr second would be to put both probes on the same signal and look at that
21:02 rue_mohr that would sort out any signal inversion or fancy triggering
21:03 atom1 yeah
21:09 rue_mohr should I try to cast that roller without a proper temp guage to measure the alum temp?
21:10 atom1 i got noise on my limit switch lines
21:10 atom1 tried bypassing the current limit resistor so they got full 3.3v
21:11 rue_mohr http://www.dansworkshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/40-Starting_to_shake_out_the_castings.jpg
21:11 rue_mohr ahahahahaah hahahaha
21:11 rue_mohr hahahaha
21:11 rue_mohr its a plastic wheelbarrow.
21:11 rue_mohr hahahahahahahahahahaha
21:14 rue_mohr 660c
21:14 rue_mohr hmm
21:15 rue_mohr I cant remember what my rtd probes are rated for
21:15 atom1 not sure what to do about these switches
21:15 rue_mohr what switches?
21:16 atom1 limit on the mill
21:16 atom1 it's a poor wiring job at best i think
21:16 atom1 at least for noise
21:16 rue_mohr redo it
21:16 atom1 i'm gonna
21:16 atom1 i was hoping to have an enclosure for it first though
22:15 rue_mohr ok i mowed the side lawn
22:15 rue_mohr and the driveway
22:30 rue_mohr http://lejpt.academicdirect.org/A11/071_080.htm
22:30 rue_mohr according to this, alum should be cast as cool and slow as you can
22:32 atom1 i suggested preheating the mold sir
22:32 rue_mohr I cant
22:32 rue_mohr I have no way to heat a block of sand thats 1.5 cubic feet
22:33 atom1 your oven
22:33 atom1 you don't use it anyway
22:33 rue_shop I'm not tainting the oven
22:34 atom1 haha!
22:34 atom1 ok this is coming along nicely here
22:34 atom1 except the switches
22:34 rue_shop besides, it cant get hot enought o amek a difference
22:35 atom1 500f?
22:35 atom1 that would
22:35 katsmeow-afk the scope prob is the trigger is set to "BOTH" , set it to A or B
22:36 atom1 ok
22:36 atom1 we used a meter after all for that
22:37 rue_shop tom, how long do you think it would take to bake a 1.5 to 2 cubic foot sand block till the middle reached even 100c
22:37 atom1 couple hours
22:38 rue_shop and, the foam would expand and destroy it all
22:38 atom1 maybe
22:38 rue_shop no it does
22:38 atom1 ok
22:38 rue_shop its been demonstrated
22:38 atom1 i forgot about the foam
22:39 rue_shop I'm trying to think of a better way to make the bender
22:39 rue_shop cause ultimitly I need the tool, not the result
22:40 atom1 ok i get 200% better performance from the steppers now
22:40 atom1 at least
22:40 atom1 and i haven't rewired them or stepped up the current on the drivers
22:40 atom1 the current is minimal right now
22:40 atom1 for testing
22:41 atom1 i could only get around 20 ipm before, now i can get at least 60
22:41 atom1 steps per rev are 40000
22:42 rue_shop cool
22:42 atom1 i should make a video once it's all set
22:43 atom1 mmm 70 ipm works fine...
22:45 atom1 drivers are barely warmer than room temp
22:45 atom1 but it's damn hot out here
22:46 rue_shop :)
22:46 rue_shop so will it half the project time?
22:47 atom1 it will certainly help that
22:47 rue_shop ok well I made a holder for the encoder wheel of the mouse and now I just have to make a new pcb board to hold the sensors
22:47 atom1 the cutting time still will be limited due to the rigidity of the machine itself
22:47 atom1 but i think it will be better
22:48 rue_shop were you having stall/slip problems?
22:49 atom1 no not before but it was because i ran it slower
22:49 atom1 occasionally i would
22:50 atom1 i can tell a vast improvement with this
22:50 rue_shop on a hot day my machine has problems
22:50 atom1 i still gotta set up all the parameters for max feeds etc which will take some time
22:50 rue_shop but the drivers are terribly primitive
22:51 atom1 i knew these weren't cheap but also knew they were the best
22:51 atom1 and i could go higher on the psu voltage but don't have one
22:51 atom1 up to 70v i think
22:51 atom1 currently at 50v
22:51 atom1 was 25
22:52 atom1 things have been on all evening and nothing is extrordinarily warm
22:52 atom1 the steppers are much cooler than they used to be
22:52 atom1 even sitting still over an extended period
22:53 atom1 z used to get much hotter
22:53 atom1 now it feels about the same as the other 2
22:59 atom1 ok, got the max velocity set to 72 now
22:59 atom1 so the G0 rapids will be 72 ipm
23:00 atom1 k, 70.5
23:01 atom1 adjusted a parameter again
23:01 atom1 not easy to figure
23:45 rue_shop I JUST SHOOK SOLDER ONTO MY FOOT, SEEING AS I'M WEARING SANDLES I NOTICE __RIGHT AWAY__
23:46 e_shop da
23:50 katsmeow-afk tsk tsk tsk