#robotics Logs

Apr 14 2012

00:01 e_house lies on the floor and rolls over, looks at the world upside down for a
00:21 tsmeow-afk ponders going to bed e
00:21 furrywolf good idea. I might do that myself.
00:21 rrywolf curls up and y
00:21 katsmeow-afk someone is snapping up hydraulic gear motors on ebay real cheap
00:22 katsmeow-afk i can't outbid them, but these look like they could be used to make an arm that can lift a car battery
00:23 katsmeow-afk with gear reduction, naturall, these motors have only 3/4 shafts
00:24 katsmeow-afk http://www.ebay.com/itm/251037183566 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261000815386 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261000817422
00:24 katsmeow-afk they already got 2 , there's 3 left, 2 are identical units
00:26 furrywolf bbl, wolfy bedtime.
00:27 tsmeow-afk goes to verify her nestbox is warm
00:27 rrywolf contemplates curling up in katsmeow's
00:28 katsmeow-afk you want this cold?
00:29 katsmeow-afk it's not pleasant
00:29 furrywolf it probably can't be transmitted from kitties to wolfies. :)
00:29 katsmeow-afk besides, i travel around, i use the whole nest box when alseep
00:30 furrywolf bbl
00:30 theBear no thankyou
00:30 tsmeow-afk made a 6ft wide 8ft long nest box, with sides so the blankets don't ever hit the floor,, this nest box has room
00:31 theBear maybe if you take turns with the cold and sleep alternately you can both be cool
00:31 theBear lol
00:31 tsmeow-afk sne
00:31 eBear imagines katsmeow-afk circling her little box then curling up ready for slee
00:31 katsmeow-afk heh
00:37 tsmeow-afk goes afk,, and may goto
00:37 katsmeow-afk zzzzzzzzzzz
00:45 rue_house it costs money to have a min listing price, but if you have secondary accounts you can 'buy' your items with, you can nonally make it look like there is a bidding frenzy to jack up the price of a real bidder, but you can buy your own item if the real bidder dosn't offer what you want as a minumum sale price
00:45 e_house glares at kat for a
00:49 rue_house THATS why the same seller turns up with more 3 days later
00:50 rue_house if you can find out the winning bidder, ask them right after they won the item how the sellers shipping was,
00:50 rue_house because its the same person they will say the shipping was GREAT, but you will notice that there is no way it could have been shipped in that period of time
02:43 brunost hi! can anybody help me verify if this at least looks like a correctly implemented PID controller? http://pastebin.com/xEuTbZtg
02:47 Triffid_Hunter brunost: usually a good idea to keep the timebase constant, and make D track the feedback rather than error so you don't get a massive D term if you change target suddenly
02:49 Triffid_Hunter brunost: apart from that, you have lastError = error at the top, a return in the while loop (which one is redundant?), few other things that aren't gonna work too well
03:00 brunost Triffid_Hunter: disregard the whileloop, that was part of some old testing, just saw that
03:05 brunost also as the function shouldnt have the loop there it will be called at a set rate so the timebase shouldn't be an issue...
03:07 brunost and in my head lastError = error makes sense as error would still be what it got set to last time the algorithm ran....?
03:08 brunost am I really that far off track? S:
03:12 Triffid_Hunter brunost: naw just minor tweaks. there's an awesome article about a recent rewrite of arduino's PID implementation, dig that up and have a read
03:13 brunost I think I know what article you're on about. I tried to implement the beginners PID controller from that
07:37 Skwint I have a battary connector with circle-diamond shape (a bit like a tamiya except fatter and the square is at 45 degrees)
07:37 Skwint anyone know a name for it?
07:48 delinquentme if I want a reliable computer on a chip type MC ... such as a beagleboard or a raspberry PI
07:48 delinquentme what are some specifics I should look for in ensuring that it can run with the highest uptime / reliability?
08:47 delinquentme katsmeow-afk, do you happen to have an image of the anti-backlash spring riggging for acme nuts?
08:47 delinquentme also how would you pick the spring / nut orientation?
09:54 binarylegit I have a battery with 16 gauge leads and a motor controller board which will only accept up to 14 gauge. Is it safe to solder some 14 gauge onto the end of the 16 gauge?
10:00 ace4016 or splice it
10:01 ace4016 you'll only have to worry about current draw and if it spikes up near the current limit of 14 (because then your 14 gauge will be a fuse)
10:01 ace4016 err...16 gauge
10:01 ace4016 will be the fuse
10:04 binarylegit ok, what do you mean by splice?
10:06 ace4016 there are little pieces of metal you can crimp or solder the wire to neatly and a bit more secure than just a solder joint
10:06 ace4016 (solder joints are weak points in wire)
10:06 ace4016 it might not matter in your application though
10:15 binarylegit oh ok, thanks
10:31 amigojapan I dont know if anyone is interested, but I finally finished documenting my Arduino LED display... anyone interested, in building one, look at my web page http://amigojapan.github.com/Arduino-LED-Matrix-Display/
11:11 rue_house amigojapan, thanks
11:12 amigojapan rue_house: thanx for looking at it. will you build one?
11:17 Tom_itx tornados on the way
11:18 Tom_itx if they are starting up in the morning it's gonna be a bad day
11:18 Tom_itx they never start up til evening
11:33 delinquentme hey do any of you guys know a good way to rig up a solder blower?
11:33 delinquentme to unsolder components?
11:37 Tom_itx delinquentme, get a hot air gun from the hardware store
11:37 Tom_itx $20
11:37 delinquentme and just point it at whatever component and pull it?
11:38 delinquentme yeah actually I have one
11:43 delinquentme Tom_itx, is that the process?
11:43 Tom_itx yeah
11:43 Tom_itx heat 'around' it as much as possible
11:43 Tom_itx so you don't overheat it
11:49 delinquentme is it safe to assume that the latency between two objects connected with 2 feet of network cable is going to be minimal?
11:50 delinquentme like i can expect to not have dropped commands right?
12:06 Tom_itx speed of light
12:07 Tom_itx almost
12:09 DanFrederiksen delinquentme, better buy a real reflow hot air solder station. quite cheap
12:10 Tom_itx meh, use the tools at hand
12:11 DanFrederiksen isn't it a little clumsy?
12:11 DanFrederiksen delinquentme, maybe something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aoyue-8032-Hand-Held-Hot-Gun-HOT-AIR-desoldering-Tool-station-220V-/370556719002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5646e6cf9a
12:11 Tom_itx not really
12:11 DanFrederiksen how do you direct a heat gun to a single component?
12:11 Tom_itx good aim
12:11 DanFrederiksen hehe
12:12 Tom_itx make a nozzle for the tip
12:12 DanFrederiksen go with the real thing. no whack hack required
12:12 Tom_itx yeah spend the bucks
12:12 DanFrederiksen 55$..
12:12 Tom_itx opposed to something he already has
12:13 DanFrederiksen maybe for a one time deal. otherwise get proper gear
12:13 DanFrederiksen when it's so affordable
12:42 delinquentme . I haven't searched out the cheapest STM with USB.
12:42 delinquentme STM == ?
12:59 Steffanx I guess he means STM8/32 delinquentme
13:00 Steffanx (ARM) microcontrollers
13:00 delinquentme Steffanx, I think i gathered that he was talking about this aforementioned board: http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATA_BRIEF/DM00037955.pdf
13:01 delinquentme however he failed to realize that to control 12 of those ... I'll need a board with 12 usb outputs
13:01 delinquentme which IDK if they even make those
13:01 delinquentme ... I guess I could cut into the cables and wire them up in another manner....
13:03 delinquentme http://www.sparkfun.com/products/765 i could just get 12 of these!
13:58 katsmeow-afk spead of light in cable can be as low as .95, easily
13:59 katsmeow-afk and solder *suckers* beat solder blowers, if you can, because they don't blow solder up under parts where you can't remove it
13:59 m_itx invites kat over for a tornado p
13:59 katsmeow-afk i would, but i have this bad back, and a cold
13:59 Skwint solder suckers are cheap and easy - I've never even heard of a solder blower!
13:59 katsmeow-afk delinquentme wants a blower
14:00 katsmeow-afk all the storm is in Kansas , Tom, where's the party?
14:01 Tom_itx so far it's west of me
14:06 katsmeow-afk heh, the usa is down for maintenance : http://classic.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=usa
14:06 Steffanx hehe
14:08 katsmeow-afk OKLAHOMA CITY -- A tornado watch has been issued for several counties in northwest Oklahoma.
14:08 katsmeow-afk The National Wearther Service issued the watch for Alfalfa, Ellis, Garfield, Grant, Harper, Major, Woods and Woodward until 6 p.m.
14:10 katsmeow-afk UPDATED: 12:39 pm CDT April 14, 2012
14:11 effanx opens wolframalpha to convert that
14:12 katsmeow-afk KOKO says all your weather will happen Sunday, and will be east of you
14:13 Steffanx http://www.chasertv.com/wall/ me loves the internet :)
14:16 katsmeow-afk Steffanx, i took these on the roof of my house, where i "stood my ground (i had some ground up there in 5 gal buckets to grow a garden))" to fight off the storms : http://designerthinking.com/storm.html
14:19 Steffanx Wha you are scary katsmeow-afk :P
14:19 Steffanx ( me comes to that conclusion after i read the homepage )
14:20 katsmeow-afk yea, life sucks, what can you do?
14:20 Steffanx Nice photo's though, a little noisy the the idea is nice
14:21 katsmeow-afk i didn't do the composite, it was really noisey, i cleaned it best i could and cropped it for the webpage
14:22 Steffanx The photos of smoke.. you live there?
14:22 katsmeow-afk delinquentme , spring preloaded nuts on allthread on page 3-4 , all the math you'd ever need for threaded rod positioning, etc : http://www.probotix.com/downloads/pic_design_leadscrews.pdf
14:22 katsmeow-afk yeas
14:22 katsmeow-afk i don't smoke tho
14:22 delinquentme awesome timing
14:22 delinquentme just got back
14:23 Steffanx me is jealous now.. it's sooo flat over here
14:23 katsmeow-afk <curtsey>
14:24 katsmeow-afk pics of their version of what the rest of us make at home for 5% of the cost, begin on page 3-6
14:25 katsmeow-afk acme pics on 3-11
14:25 katsmeow-afk as you can see, it's so easy it's hard to describe
14:25 rue_house hey
14:25 Tom_itx it's pretty flat here too
14:25 tsmeow-afk drops hay on
14:26 rue_house *blink*
14:26 katsmeow-afk it's fresh Burmuda, it's the best!
14:26 Steffanx At least your stereo images work :)
14:26 katsmeow-afk yeas, sad i don't have that boat anmore
14:27 delinquentme o yeah so the earlier question
14:27 delinquentme on belts ... there going to degrade over time
14:27 katsmeow-afk blew my back loading the trck, could not load the boat stuff, had to leave it, gave it away for labor to have the truck loaded the next trip
14:27 delinquentme are there smart ways of managing that dust?
14:28 katsmeow-afk what dust?
14:28 katsmeow-afk belts on what?
14:29 delinquentme just belts in general
14:29 delinquentme like during use
14:29 delinquentme i have them operating above samples that need to remain as clean as possible
14:29 katsmeow-afk easiest all purpose answer: used cog belts (timing belts) , dust comes from sliding wear/friction, properly set up cogs won't have that as a big problem
14:29 Steffanx And WTF @ mailbox story katsmeow-afk :S
14:29 katsmeow-afk above samples: place in belt guard enclosures
14:30 katsmeow-afk Steffanx, i hate the "humans" here
14:30 Steffanx humans ..
14:31 katsmeow-afk there is a guy not too far from me, his forest supplies all his diesel fuel, since back when it was $1.56/gal, he stopped buying it,, and assholes here won't let me use my land for anything, not even a garden
14:31 katsmeow-afk the dogs don't like me using my land, and you know they all worship dog here
14:32 katsmeow-afk diesl and gasoline, he has 6 trucks, he quit *buying* fuel, he makes it himself
14:32 katsmeow-afk i keep saying,t his land was supposed to work for me, but humans got in the way
14:34 delinquentme most used format USB plug?
14:34 Steffanx min
14:34 Steffanx i
14:35 e_house looks around to try to work out where the hay CAME
14:37 Tom_itx it's tinder
14:37 rue_house kat
14:37 katsmeow-afk rue
14:37 delinquentme Steffanx, mini a or b?
14:37 rue_house are you sure he's not reprocessing resraunt oil?
14:37 delinquentme proably mini b huh
14:38 katsmeow-afk i'm sure, for gasoline he makes methane on demand, ducts it to the carb
14:38 Tom_itx kat you need a couple pet gators
14:38 Steffanx oh, B i think
14:38 katsmeow-afk every 6 or 8 years it's suddenly news aagin and they show it on tv
14:39 katsmeow-afk for the diesel, i dunno, i have not been able to contact him, i haven't really tried, i think he's prolly as redneck as my neighbors
14:39 rue_house it implies tht the news agencies completely turn staff over every 6 to 8 years
14:39 katsmeow-afk yeas
14:40 katsmeow-afk thing is, it's not been real news since ww1 (?)
14:40 rue_house they sould call those lead screws 'backlash resistant' not ' anti-backlash'
14:40 katsmeow-afk why?
14:40 rue_house split nut with spring between the two halvs
14:41 katsmeow-afk why? <rue_house> they sould call those lead screws 'backlash resistant' not ' anti-backlash'
14:41 rue_house split nut with spring between the two halvs
14:41 katsmeow-afk don't haveto split a nut, just use two
14:41 rue_house http://www.probotix.com/downloads/pic_design_leadscrews.pdf
14:41 rue_house ?
14:42 katsmeow-afk i use couplings, they are like 1" long (or longer) nuts
14:42 katsmeow-afk why? <rue_house> they sould call those lead screws 'backlash resistant' not ' anti-backlash'
14:43 Skwint anti backlashism isn't PC
14:44 katsmeow-afk if the spring is adjusted to 5% over the load, the spring will always overpower the backlash pressure
14:50 katsmeow-afk i managed to record some of this show on 8mm, but have no 8mm to play it back any more, and cannot find it online : http://www.tv.com/shows/mann-and-machine/
14:52 katsmeow-afk the spike used in Matrix to plug humans into the Matrix, was (possibly) first used on this show, the gyndroid plugged it into her ear
14:52 katsmeow-afk altho Robocop used one on his fist
14:52 katsmeow-afk and i think $6mill Man used one once early on
15:00 katsmeow-afk http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/pal531/People/catgun.gif
17:22 katsmeow-afk http://daviddrummond.com/live-chasecam.html
18:23 DanFrederiksen ace4016, independence day
18:23 DanFrederiksen will smith
18:24 katsmeow-afk if you goto http://imapweather.com/ then move to and zoom to Oklahoma, you'll see lots of car icons, move mouse to one to see if they are streaming live, click to view video of the storm there live
18:25 katsmeow-afk you can click on some round tornado icons too, to see pics or video
18:25 sw0rdfish DanFrederiksen, wow
18:26 sw0rdfish you watched battleship
18:26 sw0rdfish is out in the cinemas where you live?
18:26 sw0rdfish already
18:26 katsmeow-afk my screen looks like a car wreck with so many icons
18:26 binarylegit can anyone suggest any good robot hobby blogs?
18:27 sw0rdfish www.letsmakerobots.com
18:27 sw0rdfish DanFrederiksen, I heard about it yesterday... I was contemplating whether to go to the cinema for it or for the avengers.
18:27 DanFrederiksen sw0rdfish, yes. and it's terrible. it's well made but it's as believeable as dick cheney
18:28 sw0rdfish LoL!
18:28 DanFrederiksen it's a recruitment video for idiots who'll join the navy
18:28 sw0rdfish you in europe?
18:28 DanFrederiksen yes
18:28 sw0rdfish I don't think its out in usa yet
18:28 sw0rdfish ahh
18:28 sw0rdfish yep.
18:28 DanFrederiksen it's deeply disgusting to anyone of intelligence
18:29 sw0rdfish that bad?
18:29 sw0rdfish seriously?
18:29 sw0rdfish damnnnn
18:29 DanFrederiksen very
18:29 sw0rdfish I guess I might as well forget about it, then.
18:30 DanFrederiksen it's basically one big blowjob to idiots in uniforms. old vets, handicapped vets and young morons who fuck up their lives because they are stupid and then think they will be great in the navy
18:30 DanFrederiksen just like gay gay abrams' star trek movie
18:30 DanFrederiksen satan couldn't have done it better himself
18:30 ace4016 lol
18:31 sw0rdfish lol wtf
18:31 sw0rdfish star trek of 2009?
18:31 DanFrederiksen yes
18:31 sw0rdfish was that bad too?
18:31 sw0rdfish I didn't watch that one.
18:32 DanFrederiksen yes. not quite this bad but close enough. same MO. some moron screw up in a bar, chasing skirt and then he's asked to 'enlist'
18:32 DanFrederiksen enlist in starfleet son. make something out of your life...
18:32 DanFrederiksen satan's playbook
18:32 DanFrederiksen USA is going to hell
18:34 sw0rdfish lol
18:34 Tom_itx preacher dan
18:40 katsmeow-afk there was an earthquake in Ok today
18:40 Tom_itx woot
18:40 Tom_itx may as well get it all in at once
18:41 katsmeow-afk 3.0. 5km down
18:41 katsmeow-afk http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc00093g8#summary
18:44 katsmeow-afk there was one on the 9th, 12th, and 14th
18:44 Tom_itx can i successfully ghost a linux drive?
18:45 Tom_itx or should i just install it all again
18:45 Tom_itx maybe reseating the memory and io cards will fix it
18:45 Tom_itx we'll see
18:47 KongfuPanda what does it mean to "ghost" a linux drive?
18:48 katsmeow-afk copy it
18:48 Tom_itx make an image of it
18:49 KongfuPanda oh, like make a backup
18:49 Tom_itx backing to a thumb drive is gonna take forever
18:49 Tom_itx KongfuPanda, no
18:50 Tom_itx ghosting a drive, you can plug the new drive in and boot from it
18:50 KongfuPanda like make your own distribution of linux?
18:51 katsmeow-afk a ghosted drive is an exact sector by sector clone
18:51 katsmeow-afk it's not a copy of a text file where the file may be anywhere on the drive
18:51 KongfuPanda oh I see, so basically clone the drive
18:51 KongfuPanda with partition tables and stuff
18:51 katsmeow-afk you plug in a ghost drive and it thinks it's the one and only one of itself
18:52 katsmeow-afk the image file is portable, you can save it,a nd place it onto other drives
18:52 ace4016 so what you're saying is that ghost don't know they're dead?
18:52 katsmeow-afk right
18:54 ace4016 oh what an afterlife
18:55 KongfuPanda oh, it's so late already 00.45
18:55 KongfuPanda I'm off to bed, night robotics people !
18:55 ace4016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VShmtsLhkQg on being creative
19:21 zhanx ping
19:34 ace4016 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPfUFMmiS5A&feature=related
19:53 sw0rdfish hmmmmmm
19:53 sw0rdfish any new yorker here?
20:10 katsmeow-afk http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/4/11/12/enhanced-buzz-9330-1334162355-16.jpg
20:15 Tom_itx can i read the chmod number of a file?
20:15 katsmeow-afk i believe you can, you know your maths
20:16 tsmeow-afk wonders if Tom took all the water : http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/2010/pictures/full-size/global-water-volume-large.jpg
20:24 katsmeow-afk the Itaipu Dam ouputs two 7,000MW 600KvDC powerlines
20:24 katsmeow-afk that's 7,000 Megawatts, 600,000 volts DC <<== DC
20:25 katsmeow-afk TWO lines totalling 14,000 Megawatts, in Direct Current
20:27 katsmeow-afk in Canadia, Prince Edward Island is served by an underwater DC line, and Vancouver has an underwater DC line to the usa
20:30 DanFrederiksen 14GW is serious power
20:30 DanFrederiksen thorium reactors sound promising though
20:32 rue_house kat, new levels of crazyness discovered
20:33 rue_house it seems the rear drive wheels of the mower (tractor) I have use PLASTIC BUSHINGS .... their both almost worn thru
20:33 rue_house honestly I'd scoff if they were cintered bronze, BUT PLASTIC
20:33 katsmeow-afk i believe it, they are cheaper to make
20:33 rue_house why not just use a ball bEARING!?!?!
20:33 katsmeow-afk cost
20:34 katsmeow-afk plus, the ball or roller bearing woul dneed lubrication, and when people leave them out in the rain, the bearings last only a year without greasing, and no one greases their equipment
20:34 rue_house well, its on the fixlist
20:35 rue_house I think the brake is missing a pad, and the last user cranked up the adjustment nut, so the lever that enguages the pads was hitting a bolt that holds the brakes in
20:36 katsmeow-afk Itaipu Dam cost $19.6 Billion to build, but to dulicate it's power by buring oil wold cost $47.7 Million, so the dam repays for itself every 411 days
20:36 rue_house I put a choke on the engine, but cut the shaft a HAIR short to get a control lever on it, so thats on the fixlist too
20:36 katsmeow-afk is this a new mower, or the one you got last year?
20:37 rue_house and I fixed the shifter, which was offset wrong after the chain was tightened back up *by sliding the transmission* I made a variable length linkage for it
20:38 rue_house this is the one I got with "good engine, screwed transmission" that had a sheered pin on the transmissions drive sprocket and an engine so hopelessly rained you could hear the piston rattle around in the cylinder when you shook the thing (ok, not literally)
20:39 rue_house I'v replaced the seat, which was a car seat by previous user (and a shot car seat at that)
20:39 katsmeow-afk rained?
20:40 Tom_itx it's a rue word
20:42 katsmeow-afk wow, rebuilding Christchurch NZ is expected to cost $17 Billion, i think it might be cheaper to give everyone a checka nd tell them to live somewhere else
20:43 delinquentme hey guys http://i.imgur.com/JVcpx.jpg
20:43 delinquentme in this ... the pressure is the same through all the tubes
20:43 delinquentme the distance traveled is the only difference between the branch pipes
20:45 katsmeow-afk ideally, but not true
20:45 katsmeow-afk the oulter lengths are not only longer, but the midpoint angle is also sharper, both slowing the water
20:49 Tom_itx rue_house how hard is it to change a network conneciton from dynamic to static in linux?
20:49 Tom_itx oh i think i remember...
20:50 delinquentme Tom_itx, that varies on the router :D
20:50 katsmeow-afk it's simple, all you do is say "rue, how do i change......
20:50 delinquentme katsmeow-afk, the midpoint angle?
20:51 delinquentme as in the middle pipes are fairly straight and the outer will be at additional angles?
20:51 katsmeow-afk the point midway twen the pipe inlet and outlet
20:51 katsmeow-afk yeas
20:51 katsmeow-afk angles add friction
20:51 katsmeow-afk friction slows water and increases back pressure
20:51 delinquentme venturi effect
20:51 katsmeow-afk plus, they are longer
20:52 katsmeow-afk nothing to do with venturis, the water hasto change direction, that takes energy, and it impacts the pipe walls more, etc
20:54 delinquentme do you guys know if theres ways to get old versions of solidworks cheaper?
20:55 delinquentme basically I like using their software ... so how do I get it as cheap as possible
20:55 katsmeow-afk easy, you say "superkuh, how do i get .....
21:01 tsmeow-afk notes she may run out of throat losenges early tomorrow mor
21:01 delinquentme ach
21:01 delinquentme no bueno
21:02 katsmeow-afk si
21:02 delinquentme stop talking :P
21:02 delinquentme NO HABLAMOS!
21:02 katsmeow-afk por que?
21:02 delinquentme tu necessitas throato losegneos
21:02 katsmeow-afk heh
21:03 delinquentme 3 years of espanol!
21:03 katsmeow-afk or something like that
21:04 katsmeow-afk Me tom� 3 a�os de espa�ol tambi�n, pero no recuerdo que gran parte de ella
21:04 katsmeow-afk tres anos
21:05 rue_house Tom_itx, it involves typing about 10 characters
21:05 katsmeow-afk cuatro a�os si contamos la escuela primaria, donde me enter� de nada
21:05 katsmeow-afk random charachers, no number tho!
21:06 rue_house I got the hay for growing the potatoes
21:06 rue_house got a whole pile of recycling done
21:07 katsmeow-afk arnchaglad i dropped all that hay on you now? :-)
21:07 Tom_itx rue_house
21:07 Tom_itx wanna walk me thru it in ubuntu?
21:07 Tom_itx :)
21:07 rue_house tommorow I plan on changing the trucks alternator and doing a trip to the landfull
21:07 katsmeow-afk what's at the landfull?
21:08 rue_house Tom_itx, go to a console, cd /etc/network and open the interfaces file with whatever editor you want
21:08 rue_house katsmeow-afk, lots of great stuff, but they wont let anyone take any of it
21:08 Tom_itx i'll need root access right?
21:08 rue_house Tom_itx, always
21:08 Tom_itx how do i get root in ubuntu?
21:08 rue_house su bash
21:08 katsmeow-afk you need a robot to drop off there, rue, and it wakes up at midnite, finds stuff, and then leaves
21:08 rue_house or sudo bash
21:09 rue_house katsmeow-afk, how would that help?
21:09 katsmeow-afk the robot and stuff would be outside the landfill, so you can get it without breaking any rules!
21:09 rue_house how would the stuff get out?
21:10 katsmeow-afk the robot carries it, of course
21:10 atom1 not much in that file
21:10 katsmeow-afk a blimp would be noticed
21:10 rue_house ah, you just said it leaves, I see now
21:11 rue_house but could be filled with methane
21:12 katsmeow-afk land fill an hour from here won't let anyone leave with stuff either, so i cane in with a low trailer covered in tarp, and "still" had something on it when i pulled out, they asked, i said i looked it over and just couldn't leave it, it was in too good a shape
21:12 katsmeow-afk no one asked if i had it when i came in or not
21:12 rue_house :)
21:13 rue_house "oops I didn't mean to throw that in.."
21:13 katsmeow-afk right
21:13 katsmeow-afk "hey wait, that's mine, you can't throw that away! go get that back!"
21:14 rue_house they hav a 'share shed' at the landfill, but nobody every puts the good stuff in there, like AC compressors, or old lawn mowers, or broken bikes
21:15 katsmeow-afk the good stuff is prolly put on craigs list that nite by the landfill owners
21:16 katsmeow-afk drop off something good painted flourescent purple woth orange dots, and see if it isn't listed the next day
21:18 katsmeow-afk i need a steel box like 6x6x6 inches to put a power transformer, fan, meter in, as a portable battery charger, the one on the aluminum frame is all bent
21:18 Tom_L :/
21:18 Tom_L that didn't work
21:19 rue_house Tom_itx,did you do sudo bash?
21:20 Tom_itx yeah
21:20 Tom_itx i got an error on network restart
21:20 Tom_itx i'd paste it but it's not connected now
21:20 rue_house I didn't tell you waht to edit yet
21:20 katsmeow-afk delinquentme, told ya who to ask, didn't i? :-P
21:20 Tom_L fatal: open /etc/postifx/main.cf
21:20 delinquentme katsmeow-afk, lol that was half decent :D
21:20 tsmeow-afk goes afk for a bit, like to get lose
21:21 Tom_L no such file or directory
21:21 rue_house Tom_itx, open /etc/network/interfaces and tell me when your ready to edit ir
21:21 delinquentme and superkuh isnt in here katsmeow-afk
21:22 Tom_itx rue_house, i may not be able to
21:22 Tom_itx tornados on the way
21:22 Tom_itx gonna take care of that first
21:22 rue_house http://runawaybrainz.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/audio-crystal-cmoy-freeform-headphone.html
21:22 rue_house I like that one
21:23 Tom_itx bbl maybe
21:33 delinquentme Tom_itx, did you get the ubuntu sudo figured out?
21:33 delinquentme ctrl + alt + T = fav shortcut to open up the console
21:36 Tom_itx http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true&location=USKS0523
21:36 Tom_itx getting close
21:37 Tom_itx spotter reported a large surface unsurvivable one in that
21:40 rue_house you have tornado insurance?
21:42 Tom_itx i hope so