#robotics Logs

Apr 13 2012

07:39 SolarNRG Afternoon
07:40 Steffanx Hi
08:56 rue_house katsmeow-afk, dont forget to say that phase offsets like that are why everything is migrating to serial like pcie
09:12 rue_house theBear, if its just barely out of phase it'll be 50hz
09:13 rue_house cause you will prolly find the camera is actually 24.9- hz
09:14 rue_house runt the video thru a peice of 50 ohm cablevision wire
09:14 rue_house I'v had pretty good success with twisted cat3
09:15 rue_house dont use china audio coax, the shield dosnt surround the signal, it just kinda tags along
09:16 rue_house and your lucky if so much as 7 strands make it from one end to the other of a 5m cable
09:16 rue_house oops I think I picked up a bug in vancouver
09:17 Steffanx uh?
09:21 rue_house !thislog
09:21 tobbor This one: http://rueshouse.dyndns.org:82/~ircjunk/irclogs/html/%23robotics-2012-04-13.html
09:24 DanFrederiksen rue_house, still running your solar cells? still works well?
09:28 rue_house they are stilll up, I havn't hooked them to a battery yet
09:28 rue_house I'm hoping to do that this year
09:28 rue_house they are still in good shape tho
09:35 katsmeow-afk i am wondering if what i have been feeling the last couple days is what humans call "a cold", i think it is, based on symptomology
09:38 katsmeow-afk no matter what else i may have wrong with me, as a rule i do not stoop to getting common colds, i are not that kinda kat
09:52 katsmeow-afk task for a robot: using TIA , you take orders for pizza from humans exiting sports games, and by the time they are at their tailgate, you have their custom pizza made and delivered there
09:53 katsmeow-afk TIA = total ...arwareness, you need to know they'll pay for it (credit rating or charge card data), their future location to deliver to
10:08 katsmeow-afk 13 April 2012 Last updated at 13:44
10:08 katsmeow-afk First Raspberry Pi computers to be delivered
10:08 katsmeow-afk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17703852
10:08 katsmeow-afk Eager fans who were the first to order a machine should get their Raspberry Pi by 20 April.
10:09 Steffanx "Costing only £16" ..........
10:09 Steffanx ....
10:09 katsmeow-afk ok?
10:09 Steffanx Yeah, it sucks how they repeat the over and over again, without mentioning that's without VAT (and shipping + extra)
10:10 Steffanx *the = that
14:45 SolarNRG Good evening gentlement
14:46 SolarNRG I have uploaded my first item for sale on ebay today, with a starting bid of only 1 pound, its a jig saw have a look: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270956173081?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
14:46 SolarNRG If you live in Scotland I'll sell it to you cash in hand
14:48 SolarNRG ok I'll take that as a no then
16:35 katsmeow-afk btw, the only part of the url that's useful is : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270956173081
16:54 katsmeow-afk many countries, including the United States, banned the use of sperm whale vomit in the 1970s.
16:55 katsmeow-afk In the case of whale vomit, some consumers find the idea of using regurgitated squids and ocean slime, no matter how good it might smell, a bit repulsive.
16:55 katsmeow-afk But since 2005, the practice became legal again in the U.S., but only because the substance can be collected along the coastline through carefully monitored programs.
17:11 ace4016 what do they use whale vomit for?
17:12 katsmeow-afk perfume, cosmetics
17:13 katsmeow-afk humans are wierd, ya kow
17:13 katsmeow-afk only species known to kill a whale, remove it's ribs, and strap them to the outside of their females, to make them look better in some way
17:14 katsmeow-afk or use whale vomit to glue lead (the toxic white metal) to their faces to look more intelligent and royal
17:14 katsmeow-afk humans are wierd, ya know
17:19 katsmeow-afk anyhow, it was in the news Tiggr found
17:20 ace4016 hehe
17:20 ace4016 i prefer my women without makeup...but i'm apparently werid
17:20 ace4016 weird*
17:26 Skwint I prefer them without whale bones too
19:37 rue_house well I have the new alternator for my truck
19:37 rue_house I usppose I can put it in anytime I like
20:46 katsmeow-afk i hope Tom is ok with the tornadoes du jour
20:47 Tom_itx it was sunny and nice this evening
20:47 Tom_itx we're in for it tomorrow though so i hear
20:48 theBear hehe, you run on mums carpet with yer muddy boots again ? <grin> "ooooh, you're in for it tomorrow young tom !"
20:49 katsmeow-afk i dunno where int he state you are, but there's some storm with 55k ft cloudtops, spouting hail and mesocyclone warnings right now
20:49 Tom_itx theBear ever been in a tornado?
20:50 Tom_itx i welcome you to visit sometime
20:50 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk, whereabouts?
20:51 katsmeow-afk i was looking at it from insode Tiggr, i'll look for an url for you
20:51 theBear Tom_itx, nah, we don't get much serious weather at all everywhere i been
20:51 theBear and i'd love to visit, you never know with me :)
20:51 Tom_itx you'd be in for a real treat
20:52 theBear heh, quite the host eh ? (oh i'm on fire with the bad wordplay today)
20:52 katsmeow-afk http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/Radar/law.gif
20:52 theBear heh, satellite never looks anything LIKE that colourful here :)
20:52 katsmeow-afk more color : http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/RadarSummary/law.gif
20:52 Tom_itx south
20:53 Tom_itx closer to lorez
20:53 theBear best we get is maybe a 10 whatsit-gradient across half a HUGE state causing some mild winds <grin>
20:53 Tom_itx http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?animate=true&location=USKS0523
20:53 Tom_itx ict
20:54 Tom_itx theBear, one of our worst: http://www.kansas.com/static/slides/050507tornadoaerials/
20:54 Tom_itx 7 miles wide
20:54 Tom_itx iirc
20:55 theBear lol, that's the one that got that umm, the yellow brick road girl and toto isn't it ?
20:55 theBear that is actually quite outrageously devastating
20:55 Tom_itx then there was the one ~10 yrs prior
20:55 Tom_itx it took the whole town
20:56 Tom_itx ~10 yrs prior one was down for ~45 min
20:56 katsmeow-afk tomorrow is supposed to be as devestating, but they don't know where .. yet
20:57 katsmeow-afk i willbet you almost anything the town was rebuilt using the same construction practices, leaving it as vulnerable for a 2nd go round
20:58 Tom_itx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0hMnvayVwo&feature=related
20:58 Tom_itx the andover one
20:59 katsmeow-afk what's a sympton distinguishing pneumonia from the common cold?
20:59 Tom_itx deeper cough?
20:59 Tom_itx water on the lungs?
20:59 theBear umm, serious 'stuff' coming from your lungs/chest vs throat/nose i guess
20:59 theBear but you can still have a 'lung cough' from a bad flu/cold without having pneumonia
21:00 katsmeow-afk a wheeze/gurgle at the end of exhaling?
21:03 katsmeow-afk what i can't figure out , from all the tornado pics online, the streets are always clean, no matter how much the buildings are wrecked, no matter how many or how tall the piles of cars are,t he streets are clean
21:05 Tom_itx it's like a vaccuum
21:05 Tom_itx it drops the debri miles from the pickup site sometimes
21:06 Tom_itx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andover,_Kansas_Tornado_Outbreak
21:06 Tom_itx the only F5 that year
21:06 Tom_itx maybe the only one recorded?
21:06 Tom_itx covered 46 miles
21:07 katsmeow-afk someone else had F5 before, i remember it peeled the roads off the ground
21:07 Tom_itx it stripped trees like a fellebuncher
21:07 Tom_itx fellerbuncher
21:07 tsmeow-afk
21:08 Tom_itx i was at home when that one passed by
21:08 katsmeow-afk ouch, the weather forecast for tomorrow looks like that was back then
21:08 Tom_itx about 5mi south of me approx
21:09 Tom_itx the greensburg was also an EF5
21:09 Tom_itx but the scale was changed
21:11 Tom_itx i was wrong, it was 1.7 miles wide
21:11 Tom_itx 22 miles
21:12 Tom_itx 2.7km in roo miles
21:12 Tom_itx it was wider than the andover one but andover was on the ground longer
21:15 katsmeow-afk maybe there won't be so much damage tomorrow
21:16 Tom_itx i swear by the indians belief in the fork in the river
21:17 katsmeow-afk splitting the weather?
21:17 Tom_itx i've seen it
21:17 tsmeow-afk
21:17 Tom_itx the bad stuff most always goes east or west of it
21:17 katsmeow-afk the downside is the karma from divirting it to someone else
21:18 zhanx kat pm
21:18 katsmeow-afk did
21:58 tsmeow-afk begins adding another 250gig hd to a p
21:59 home I so want to build a rocket 0_0
22:01 ace4016 then build one
22:01 ace4016 they sell kits and have blueprints and stuff
22:02 ace4016 just don't do it near a military base :P
22:02 katsmeow-afk but i would not put a hd on ne
22:02 home well, I am more interested in retrieving the data aspect of it ...
22:02 home using an accelo to get something back
22:02 home its more for a school project :/
22:02 Tom_itx http://www.kloudbusters.org/
22:02 Tom_itx those get FAA clearance to launch
22:03 home I live in Canada
22:03 home so :/ not sure
22:03 ace4016 depending on how high you want to go, you'll have to ensure it complies with your local government
22:04 home will look that up hmmm
22:04 ace4016 and i believe the how high is a bit more of how big (as you can choose not to go up, but up and towards....)
22:05 katsmeow-afk and where, like not over important gov buildings
22:05 katsmeow-afk or airports
22:06 Tom_itx they launch literally out in the middle of nowhere
22:06 Tom_itx normally a wheatfield
22:07 tsmeow-afk wants to launch some robots to the moon, to build more robots from the free materials up t
22:09 home i first of all have to get some accelos..
22:09 home there is an accel/gyro/temp board at school..that no one is using.. urgh
22:09 home must learn how to use em :/
22:10 ace4016 they're not difficult
22:10 home I read raw data only once.
22:11 home and use a gyro that outputted voltage :/
22:11 home the question now is.. I need to actually get some...
22:14 katsmeow-afk how you know you have a bad pata cable: the Maxtor drive id's as LaXtnr5
22:19 katsmeow-afk and all my cables are still packed, because my back is still such that i cannot unpack them
22:22 katsmeow-afk how you know it's a Dell: you have set the cmos time 5x in 10 minutes
22:22 katsmeow-afk how you know you are getting tired: you ate some ibuprofen and tylenol, and can't find the cmos battery
22:36 katsmeow-afk found an ata33 cable, drive works fine
22:37 home urghgha
22:37 home burgfrog
22:38 home need some accelos.. and gyros ..hmm
22:47 Tom_itx http://www.adeptrocketry.com/A1ds.htm
22:48 Tom_itx http://www.apogeerockets.com/
22:49 home interesting.. so this requires moneyÉ
22:49 home ?
22:49 Tom_itx or brains
22:50 Tom_itx http://www.apogeerockets.com/Electronics_Payloads/Electronics/Jolly_Logic_AltimeterTwo
22:50 katsmeow-afk may i suggest a $400 helo as your first attempt at vertical flight? They'll come with all the soldering done
22:54 home might as well get a quadropter XD
22:56 katsmeow-afk http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence
23:00 home so tired..
23:00 home gotta research...and make schematics..urgh
23:00 ace4016 sleep; you'll be more productive with a free day and a rested mind
23:08 home ace4016: I slept for 14 hours yesterday
23:08 home and on time too 0_09
23:12 ace4016 then you slept too much :D
23:16 home no u...! anywayz
23:19 rue_house hum
23:27 rue_house so kat
23:28 rue_house II'v come to the conclusion that filtering data is more important than interperting what the data actually is
23:28 home rue_house: how? and hey!
23:29 rue_house the gesture code I'm working on
23:29 rue_house the code itself is working, but using mouse data is being impossable cause of the noise
23:30 rue_house so I think ai is really about filtering data
23:31 rue_house adaptive filters
23:32 katsmeow-afk well, aftr filtering out the 1000 bad data, you still need to sort and colate the 1 piece of good data
23:32 rue_house filters with a feedback mechanism that allow them to know when the result is wrong, and adjust the filter
23:33 katsmeow-afk the result of what?
23:33 rue_house the result of the filter
23:33 katsmeow-afk o
23:34 katsmeow-afk my brian geels lile it's altready off
23:35 katsmeow-afk i wreaked havoc on vegetation today
23:35 katsmeow-afk was nice to be outside
23:35 rue_house hmm
23:35 rue_house be nice to your back eh?
23:35 katsmeow-afk spraying poison on healthy plants
23:36 katsmeow-afk i was taking it easy
23:36 katsmeow-afk back is gonn ahurt some no matter what
23:37 tsmeow-afk coughs up alung ad stuffs it back
23:38 rue_house oh I'm an idiot
23:38 rue_house the filter I need is a chaotic state machine
23:38 katsmeow-afk news to me
23:38 rue_house its a self programming filter
23:38 rue_house damn
23:39 rue_house so I HAVE to write a chaotic state machine
23:39 katsmeow-afk how wide is a car rado?
23:39 rue_house not 18"
23:40 katsmeow-afk ok
23:40 rue_house FROD radio or standard radio?
23:40 rue_house FORD
23:40 rue_house Chevvy?
23:40 katsmeow-afk what's a frod?
23:40 katsmeow-afk i dunno
23:40 rue_house FROD is a Fix Or Repair Daily thats broken
23:40 katsmeow-afk just daydreaming of how i want the arms on the capitans chair to be
23:41 rue_house tell me about them please
23:42 rue_house why do I get so many ads to make my dick bigger but none about increasing sp**m output?
23:42 katsmeow-afk i think a small laptop screen (to access media on other puters), mouse to drag what to play on whatelse, hardware vol/tone/bal and eq controls
23:42 rue_house dont like touchscreen?
23:42 rue_house the multitouch stuff is nice
23:43 katsmeow-afk i wouldn't put much faith n thos dick ads, rue, everyone gets the ads, and half the population doesn't even have one
23:43 rue_house if someone leaves an iphone around take a chance to play with the interface
23:43 katsmeow-afk that's bad marketting
23:44 home i have an iphone
23:44 rue_house I dunno, this one says if I cut off and send in just one inch, I'll get 8 inches mailed back to me!
23:44 katsmeow-afk the laptop i have is barely color, it's dreadfully slow, and it never heard of touch screen
23:44 home I want to use its accelos
23:44 katsmeow-afk besides, i wanna see BIG icons on it, without reading glasses
23:44 rue_house hmm
23:44 home ah, being old :)
23:44 rue_house you could make a touchscreen tho
23:45 rue_house duunno, how...
23:45 rue_house pretty sure the iphone uses capacitance
23:45 katsmeow-afk so i figure, unfld the laptop so the keybd is below the rest of the electronics, slip a usb keybd in a pocket i can pull out and lay anywhere, the screen stays on the arm of the chair
23:46 e_house
23:47 katsmeow-afk it *is* getting difficult to watch tv, when i don't know where that dvd is, or why the vhs isn't in the right box, or which puter has that avi, etc etc
23:50 katsmeow-afk after this fiasco of a move, i have lost two 320 gig hds, and i have no idea what was on them atm
23:50 katsmeow-afk one drive i know whas a bad cable, and if lucky it isn't a total corruption
23:51 katsmeow-afk the other has refused to id itself
23:51 rue_house I fear it proved the only people worse than your enamy are the people offering to help you
23:52 rue_house I think there is a really bad mental effect from long term mental overthreading
23:52 katsmeow-afk they help only in their own world bubble, and my bubble isn't theirs
23:53 rue_house I think even some of the people really genuinly trying to help you are just aiding screing things up for you
23:54 katsmeow-afk who is trying to help me now?
23:54 rue_house they didn't say where to mail the inch...
23:54 katsmeow-afk ?
23:54 rue_house katsmeow-afk, depends how you look at them
23:54 katsmeow-afk how i look at WHO ?
23:54 rue_house anyone
23:55 katsmeow-afk is anyone trying to help me?
23:57 rue_house if it benifits them more than the expense of issuing the help
23:57 katsmeow-afk what?
23:57 rue_house but dont for a second think that benifits and expenses are measured in dollars
23:58 rue_house I understand the root reason anyone does anything