#robotics Logs
Mar 28 2012
#robotics Calendar
00:43 rue_house geesh
00:43 rue_house gnight
00:45 rue_bed gnight
00:45 theBear cya buddy, and remember, avoid facebook, it's all bad
00:45 rue_bed its good for finding people
00:46 rue_bed I dont live on it, twitter, or.... flicker
00:46 theBear yeah, but even after many years i can't help but feel the disadvantages outweigh the benefits... i've seen it cause a lot of damage, plus, i got more people i don't wanna find me tahn the other way round.... if i'm desperate i can always make someone else look for me
00:46 rue_bed but nobody has made a media site for sound bytes
00:47 theBear i like that 4square thing, but i only got 2 'friends' and it doesn't let you chat or socialise, at best comment on where you are right now
05:39 orlok Ahh, figure it out
05:39 orlok i called it serial.py
05:40 orlok ok all better
09:11 sw0rdfish hey
09:12 sw0rdfish tobber too much spam man
09:12 sw0rdfish katsmeow-afk, you there?
09:12 rue_house tobbor automatically restarts every 24 hours
09:12 sw0rdfish omg you're not gonna believe it but I found such a cool site(s) for robotics projects and stuff
09:12 sw0rdfish for absolute beginners
09:12 sw0rdfish at low prices :D
09:12 sw0rdfish i'm soo exciteddddd
09:15 rue_house your not gonna share?
09:16 rue_house hahaha I wonder what it would take to use a few avrs and make a multicore arm emulation machine
09:18 sw0rdfish oh lol
09:18 sw0rdfish i got drowned in that page
09:19 sw0rdfish I'm looking through both the beginners and intermediats list of stuff
09:19 sw0rdfish hold on
09:19 sw0rdfish its actually simple i don't need to copy t he link its... robotshop.com lool
09:19 sw0rdfish oh and thank gawd they ship worldwide wohooo!!!!
09:21 rue_house ugh its just robot shop?
09:21 sw0rdfish so look I wanna get into somethin like nano tech + green energy, anyways, when I go to school... and those wind turbine stuff in the beginners section are just amazing.
09:21 sw0rdfish and this one rue_house http://www.trossenrobotics.com/beginner-robot-kits.aspx
09:22 rue_house sw0rdfish, if you have a 4V battery with a resistive load of 1000ohms attached to id, what current is being pulled from the battery?
09:22 sw0rdfish ta hell?
09:23 rue_house yea...
09:23 sw0rdfish where did that come frmo?
09:23 sw0rdfish from*
09:24 sw0rdfish rue_house, yeah ok I think I see whats goin on here .... you tryin to check if I'm prepared for what I wanna study for?
09:24 rue_house sw0rdfish, find the syntax error in this line of C code: for(i==0; i != 5; i+=2) {
09:24 sw0rdfish ^^?
09:24 rue_house or the error, sorry
09:25 sw0rdfish tell me first
09:25 sw0rdfish did I guess right?
09:25 rue_house yea...
09:25 sw0rdfish cool :)
09:25 sw0rdfish well wow
09:25 rue_house may I suggest you learn some foundation stuff?
09:25 sw0rdfish thats what I'm trying to do sir
09:25 rue_house namely anything
09:25 rue_house ok
09:25 rue_house catch ya later, I have to go to work
09:25 sw0rdfish and wow C and php are just soo damn close in their syntax... think PHP is written and based on C
09:25 sw0rdfish ok...
09:26 sw0rdfish I'm gonna first probably just read some beginner robotics books
09:26 sw0rdfish rue_house, ^^
09:26 sw0rdfish and keep studying my math and physics :)
09:26 rue_house no, play with batteries, switches, and lights,
09:26 sw0rdfish the error was i==0 should be i = 0
09:26 rue_house play with maing things
09:26 rue_house sw0rdfish, 1 point
09:27 rue_house can you find any other errors?
09:27 sw0rdfish maybe you can guide me which stuff to get and which books to read
09:27 sw0rdfish I'll pastebin for you the list of robotics books I got... I got like 15
09:27 sw0rdfish of them
09:28 sw0rdfish btw second error I spot is the last one should be i+2 and not i+=2
09:30 sw0rdfish rue_house, I guess you went? and speaking of basic mechanics stuff... someone mentioned a book let me go grab it, called "introduction to mechanics"
09:30 rue_house nope but close
09:35 sw0rdfish you mean thats not the error rue_house ?
09:37 sw0rdfish btw I don't know C... but like half of php and their syntax for the 'for' loop is the same I believe as it is for many other things
09:41 sw0rdfish you prolly went and I'ma work on my php now... later!
09:45 katsmeow-afk LOT OF 18 UNITS P/N D8049HC NEC IC DIP40 PINS ; User ID: kfiros17 ; Auction ; 0 Bids $9.99 + $11.95 shipping
09:45 katsmeow-afk LOT OF 18 UNITS P/N D8049HC NEC IC DIP40 PINS ; User ID: kfiros17 ; Buy It Now or Best Offer $69.99 + $8.95 shipping
09:45 tsmeow-afk thinks,, $10 or $70 for the same item,,,
09:46 sw0rdfish lol until I saw the last line I thought you were a robot or something
09:47 sw0rdfish cuz you came out of no where printing some random stuff...
09:47 sw0rdfish well an irc robot I mean :P
09:47 katsmeow-afk it's not random
09:49 sw0rdfish capacitors...
09:50 katsmeow-afk ?
10:02 sw0rdfish nothin, lol.
12:35 SolarNRG Hi guys
12:35 SolarNRG Did you like my python reference?
14:13 SolarNRG Any of you guys know how to hook this thing up to my arduino? http://i.imgur.com/5BraS.jpg
14:13 SolarNRG http://i.imgur.com/i9wqr.jpg
14:13 SolarNRG The 2nd one is the label
14:13 LoRez with wire?
14:14 LoRez server's 500ing
14:14 katsmeow-afk optoisolate the avr from the high voltage
14:16 SolarNRG What is teh avr?
14:17 SolarNRG I want to plug a pin or two or three from my arduino into a circuit that makes this valve open and close
14:18 katsmeow-afk doesn't the arduino have an avr on it?
14:18 LoRez katsmeow-afk: not if you've drunk the arduino kool-aid
14:18 katsmeow-afk aaoohh, and i didn'ty
14:18 katsmeow-afk SolarNRG, look for a relay shield then
14:21 katsmeow-afk example of how i get so depressed: i ordered and paid for a pool to store 3000 gallons of water in so i can flush the toilets again, they ship it FedEx, FedEx drives it by my driveway 3x and then returns it to the sender
14:30 SolarNRG This any good: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-Channel-Solid-State-Relay-Module-Board-OMRON-SSR-AVR-DSP-Arduino-250V-2A-/180848899408?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D270934208556%26ps%3D54
14:30 SolarNRG Says it can handle 250v and up to 2 amps
14:35 katsmeow-afk i dunno, i do not do arduino
14:37 SolarNRG OK but if a small signal goes into that it'll turn on a mains connection, like a light switch for instance, right?
14:48 tsmeow-afk screams something about f
14:49 katsmeow-afk solar, if you don't kow how a relay works, you better stay away from the mains
14:49 katsmeow-afk seriously, if you do not know, have someone else do it for you
14:50 katsmeow-afk i will not advise you on powerline stuff when you don't have a clue
14:53 SolarNRG Turn off the fusebox first?
14:53 katsmeow-afk i will not advise you on powerline stuff when you don't have a clue
14:53 SolarNRG I have installed a lightswitch before
14:53 SolarNRG And I've installed a socket
14:54 katsmeow-afk solar, if you don't kow how a relay works, you better stay away from the mains
14:54 katsmeow-afk seriously, if you do not know, have someone else do it for you
14:54 katsmeow-afk i will not advise you on powerline stuff when you don't have a clue
14:55 SolarNRG I have done a low votage relay before, but it was an ac relay and I could get the motor to switch on but not off
14:55 SolarNRG It had 5 connectors
14:56 SolarNRG I hooked up 4 of them
14:56 katsmeow-afk just randomly hooked up wires?
14:56 SolarNRG yeah
14:57 SolarNRG systematic
14:57 SolarNRG until i had the right combo
14:57 SolarNRG same way i got my stepper motor to turn
14:57 katsmeow-afk if you do that on the mains, you'll prolly die in a permanent way, or burn the house down
14:58 SolarNRG Yeah don't touch it when the fusebox is on
14:58 SolarNRG I know about that
14:58 katsmeow-afk don't fucking randomly patch wires together either!!!!
14:58 katsmeow-afk shit!
14:58 SolarNRG Yeah but this module it has the terminals clearly labelled, it isn't like a chip where the datasheet is in martian
14:59 SolarNRG but I still don't know what the 5 wires on the valve do
14:59 katsmeow-afk THAT'S MY POINT
15:01 SolarNRG How can I find out?
15:01 SolarNRG I'm guessing yellow is earth
15:01 SolarNRG right?
15:01 katsmeow-afk no clue, it could be anything
15:02 katsmeow-afk it could be anything because most countries have their own national electrical code for specifying colors, and the code may not have been followed anyhow
15:04 SolarNRG can i multimeter it?
15:04 SolarNRG check for resistance?
15:04 katsmeow-afk you? i dunno, but that won't tell you much
15:07 SolarNRG I got a reading in the 20komhm range with brown and blue!
15:08 SolarNRG I think brwon is used for mains live and blue is neutral
15:08 SolarNRG but it still doesn't tell me what orange and grey do
15:09 katsmeow-afk i think you're going to blow up something
15:10 katsmeow-afk bye
16:56 Tom_L http://www2.electronicproducts.com/How_to_Build_a_Twittertape_Machine-article-fajb_twittertape_march2012-html.aspx
17:33 katsmeow-afk hmm, odd NEC directions : The latch type relays should be initalized at appointed position before using, and should be enegized to specific polanity by a bone polabity to avoid wrong operation.
18:00 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk got quite a bit done on the file
18:23 tsmeow-afk
18:24 Tom_itx i think i'll see if what i have compiles
18:30 katsmeow-afk roflmao : http://imgur.com/r/funny/lFIn4
18:46 atom1 woops
18:46 atom1 kat!
18:46 atom1 katsmeow-afk,
18:46 katsmeow-afk tom?
18:51 Tom_itx i was playing in garf
18:51 Tom_itx and forgot
18:54 katsmeow-afk forgot what?
18:55 Tom_itx kat, is < and > < > respectively?
18:55 katsmeow-afk yeas
18:55 katsmeow-afk with the following ;
18:55 Tom_itx it needs the ';'?
18:55 katsmeow-afk < and >
18:55 Tom_itx oh ok
18:55 katsmeow-afk all such tags end in a ;
18:58 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/katsmeow/
18:58 Tom_itx it wasn't a total bust
18:58 Tom_itx there's the new code and logs from both bots
18:58 Tom_itx html is the working bot
18:58 Tom_itx .log is the test file
18:59 Tom_itx needs more formatting
18:59 Tom_itx oh
18:59 Tom_itx the working bot doesn't log joins and parts. maybe i should enable that for a while
19:00 katsmeow-afk i believe you can put the style="color:#%00x%00x%FFx" into the class, or at least into the css for the page
19:01 Tom_itx it's the same color for all tags right now but there is a function to use other colors i'm not currently using
19:02 Tom_itx and the href for the timestamp needs to be added
19:02 Tom_itx what that does it moves that line to the top of the brouser when you click on it
19:02 katsmeow-afk why an href? the timestamps are clickable?
19:03 Tom_itx in the running bot they are
19:03 katsmeow-afk err.. umm,, k
19:04 Tom_itx i may not get alot done tonight. i' tired
19:04 Tom_itx m
21:43 Tom_itx rue_house, what book did you get on python?
22:01 rue_house th oriley book
22:19 XSerpentX >:E
22:31 katsmeow-afk are we all as tired as Tom is?
22:32 katsmeow-afk please make it stop
22:32 rue_house make what stop
22:34 katsmeow-afk the tired