#robotics Logs

Mar 05 2012

00:15 rue_house katsmeow-afk, on weekends I have eggos and on weekdays I have porridge
00:23 iR0b0t1 It is a dev board.
00:23 iR0b0t1 What else did you want to know?
00:30 rue_house its arm based
00:31 rue_house its also overpriced
00:31 rue_house I hope your not using it to flash an led
11:40 reesk92 heya
11:41 Steffanx Lo
11:51 reesk92 i got a new toy i cant wait to use
11:53 tsmeow-afk disagrees, yo can wait to use it till after you're done talking about it t
11:56 reesk92 i bought a pair of transmit and recive ir diodes and im gonna combine them with a arduino to controll my robot that uses anouther arduino
11:56 reesk92 i can even add a ethernet shield for a web interface
11:56 katsmeow-afk sounds cool
11:57 reesk92 i just hope its not as hard as getting the reciver to ick up a tv remote signal as i wont be using that option and going for making my own transmitter and codes
11:58 katsmeow-afk prolly the same problems, actually
11:59 reesk92 yeah
12:00 reesk92 the sucky part is the tx and r ir leds look identical
12:00 tsmeow-afk would use rf, maybe 200mw at 100mhz or so for inside, and more power out
12:00 reesk92 hmmm
12:01 reesk92 actually they are different a little
12:01 reesk92 tx has the+ on the right
12:02 reesk92 and rx has the + on the left
12:03 reesk92 tx is a white lense dot rx a dark lense
12:05 katsmeow-afk you know about using a modulated carrier when using IR , right?
12:06 katsmeow-afk and using a shield that blocks visable light and lets in IR ?
12:07 reesk92 nope i gotta learn all this
12:07 katsmeow-afk good thing i mentioned it then
15:01 reesk92 hayo
15:08 reesk92 !slap Big-Al
15:08 reesk92 awww
15:08 reesk92 i wished that still worked i hav nt slapped anyone with a fish in ages
15:13 m_itx slaps reesk92 around a bit with a large t
15:27 reesk92 ohhhhh
15:27 esk92 slaps Tom_itx with his penis and takes him like the bitch he knows he
15:27 reesk92 hows that did i do it right?
16:10 Steffanx That 92 in reesk92 is a reference to his birth year isn't it?
16:13 KongfuPanda hi Steffanx, how are you?
16:13 Steffanx Fine fine
16:13 Steffanx You?
16:14 KongfuPanda good, thanks
16:15 KongfuPanda finally wrote some stuff in matlab that allows me to track particles in 3D
16:16 Steffanx Fancy
16:17 Steffanx Video on youtube?
16:17 reesk92 yup
16:18 KongfuPanda yes plox
16:18 Steffanx Whatever a plox may be
18:37 katsmeow-afk fail : Sri Lankan man dies trying to win burial-alive record
18:57 katsmeow-afk "I consider anyone who types that word a moran. "
18:58 katsmeow-afk Acronym for Peace, Loot, Or XP
18:58 katsmeow-afk Used by players of the MMO Wizard101. PEACE is for bringing peace to The Spiral (W101 virtual world). LOOT = Stuff you win in-game which you then immediately sell for in-game currency. XP = Experience Points, which are needed to level up. Widespread use as a battle cry, greeting, goodbye, or as equivalent to "Live Long and Prosper" or "May The Force Be With You."
19:26 reesk92 im back
19:48 rue_house who knows what this string is for
19:48 rue_house "PTGMk munp"
19:49 Tom_itx related to what?
19:49 rue_house hint: if there was another letter, it'd be f
19:49 m_itx is too pooped to figure much of anything
19:54 reesk92 what kind o data would be possible to send through ir on arduino im planning to make a ir remote for it but wanted to know i other stuff was possible like maybe sending sensor data over ir to the controller
19:55 rue_house with or without a fiber optic carrrier?
19:55 katsmeow-afk bits are bits, you can assign any meaning to them you want
19:55 reesk92 it would be without
19:55 reesk92 my setup would be
19:55 rue_house hmm
19:56 Tom_itx well kat
19:56 Tom_itx i got my headers
19:56 rue_house well, any kind of data you can express in binary
19:56 katsmeow-afk if you send 10100101010101 it could be a sensor data or a motor drive signal or "Tom" in some new language
19:56 reesk92 a robot uing a atmegs 2560 with a ir transmiter and reciever
19:56 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk, would that work if you inverted it too?
19:56 reesk92 it would comunicate to a aruino uno
19:57 reesk92 which i can make controller modules for like a game controller for movement
19:57 reesk92 or ethernet ofor web controll
19:57 Tom_itx katsmeow-afk, thanks for the tip on those
19:57 tsmeow-afk wonders what Tom is u
19:58 Tom_itx 6'1"
19:58 katsmeow-afk if you send 10100101010101 it could be Tom's heigth
19:59 katsmeow-afk wow, there really is a (Rick) http://www.santorum.com/ to pay homage to the senator running for president
20:00 reesk92 i would like to keep the method cheap which is why im reluctant to use a xbee cause there kinda expensive
20:00 katsmeow-afk if you cannot find a cheap protocol, you could bitbang the data out
20:00 reesk92 id make my own protocol
20:01 reesk92 its the sending method im looking at
20:04 rue_house reesk92, you just need to be carefull of the modulation type you use
20:05 rue_house the recievers have AGC amplifers that only respond properly if the recieved signal is below a certian duty cycle and on-time limit
20:05 reesk92 do you know of any tutorials i can follow that cover making ir without using a tv remote
20:05 rue_house reesk92, you just wan tot make a data link?
20:06 rue_house I have a really neat idea I want someone to try
20:06 rue_house are there microcontrollers on both ends of the link?
20:07 Tom_itx why don't you try your idea rue?
20:07 rue_house time
20:07 reesk92 yes
20:07 reesk92 a mega on the robot
20:07 Tom_itx what's your idea?
20:07 rue_house reesk92, what transfer rate do you require min?
20:07 reesk92 a uno on the controller
20:07 rue_house oh I dont know if my idea will work with an arduino
20:07 rue_house we could try
20:07 reesk92 im not sure it would only need to be enough to send movement commands for now
20:07 reesk92 fwd
20:08 reesk92 bckwd
20:08 reesk92 left
20:08 reesk92 right
20:08 rue_house ok so verry low transfer rate
20:08 reesk92 yes
20:08 rue_house 1ms delay will not be a problem
20:08 rue_house do you have an IR ireciever?
20:08 rue_house is it 38Khz?
20:09 reesk92 i belive so let me check
20:10 reesk92 oh wait
20:10 reesk92 not a reciver
20:10 reesk92 i have a t and rx diode
20:10 reesk92 http://www.maplin.co.uk/infrared-transmitter-and-receiver-10379
20:11 rue_house oh , hmm
20:11 rue_house thats harder
20:12 rue_house if you do not use a modulated link, light noise messes up your signal
20:13 reesk92 aww crap
20:13 rue_house you want ot use them remote from a distance of about 3m yes?
20:13 reesk92 about that yeah
20:14 Tom_itx rue_house what's the formula from ac to dc for voltage?
20:14 Tom_itx 1.8?
20:14 rue_house *.14
20:14 rue_house er
20:14 rue_house *1.4
20:15 Tom_itx so 32vac would net ~44.8 vdc
20:15 rue_house reesk92, do you have access to a
20:15 rue_house vcr, dvd player, tv, or satillite tuner that you can strip for parts?
20:18 reesk92 yea
20:18 rue_house good
20:19 rue_house it has the IR reciever you need
20:19 rue_house you can use the ir led you have
20:19 Tom_itx i got one of those back when RS still had parts
20:19 rue_house let me show you what the think you want looks like
20:20 rue_house reesk92, http://search.digikey.com/ca/en/products/GP1UM281QK0F/425-2021-ND/720145
20:20 rue_house find something like that on the front of the circuit board behind a dark window
20:21 rue_house http://search.digikey.com/ca/en/products/GP1UV701QS/425-1850-ND/559837
20:21 rue_house another common stype
20:21 rue_house (a stype is both a style and a type if any of you are wondering)
20:22 reesk92 is that for t or rx
20:22 rue_house thats rx
20:22 rue_house your led will work fine for tx
20:22 rue_house or, if you havnt' bought it arleady, find an old remote and steal the led out of that
20:23 rue_house second hand stores usually have baskets of remotes for a dollar each
20:23 Tom_itx how many have you got?
20:23 rue_house ... I only collect the ones that have arrow keys...
20:24 reesk92 dont the t and rx need to be matched
20:25 rue_house not much
20:25 rue_house there are 'colours' of IR, but I havn't seen a pair just *not work* beofre
20:25 rue_house I have seen some you can only get a few meters out of, verses some you can get a lot of meters out of
20:26 rue_house when I made my robot drivable with a tv remote I was really impressed with the range
20:28 rue_house reesk92, well? you dind't kill yourself there did you?
20:28 rue_house unplug the thing your stripping the parts out of before licking the circuit board
20:28 rue_house its hard to explain a numb toung, literally
20:28 reesk92 lol
20:29 reesk92 im not that retarded
20:29 reesk92 now if you dont mind
20:29 rue_house katsmeow-afk, I saw leaves playing on a street today
20:29 reesk92 im having a nice glas of this lemonade i found
20:29 esk92 drinks from the bottles labeled ferric chlo
20:29 rue_house I only mind duiring the weekend, the rest of the week I just dont have time
20:30 e_house points at reesk92 "he has the good stu
20:30 tsmeow-afk l
20:31 rue_house "its hard to explain a numb toung, literally."
20:33 rue_house ok kat, I think you can do this: what is this string: "PTGMk munp"
20:34 rue_house I wrote it this morning and it took me a min when I got home from work to realize it wasn't junk the cats had typed
20:35 katsmeow-afk but it's nix, and i don't do nix
20:35 rue_house nope
20:35 rue_house stare at it a while, dont try too hard
20:35 rue_house the clue is: the next letter is f
20:37 katsmeow-afk i dunno
20:37 rue_house its gonna hit you in a little while
20:37 tsmeow-afk d
20:37 rue_house you will wonder why you didn't notice right away
20:40 katsmeow-afk i dunno
20:41 katsmeow-afk i have a lot of stuff on my lil mind atm, why don't you just tell me?
20:45 rue_house cause I think its too good a mind puzzle to just give away
20:45 rue_house I think it'll occur to you in the next 12 hours
20:45 katsmeow-afk well, i dunno what a munpfa is
20:46 rue_house "PTGMk munp"
20:46 katsmeow-afk i STILL do not know
20:47 rue_house I'm sure it'll occur to you within 12 hours
20:47 katsmeow-afk i am sure it won't, and you won't tellme, and this is just a cruel tease
20:47 rue_house sorry, Its a good puzzle, enjoy it!
20:48 rue_house I dont think I can give you a hint without giving it away
20:48 katsmeow-afk i am not enjoying it, that's the thing
20:48 rue_house dont like puzzles?
20:49 rue_house I like to ponder the nonsense of the universe looking for a pattern
20:49 reesk92 what kind of motors are in a vcr
20:50 rue_house there are 2 dc 9-12V motors and a 3 phase servomotor
20:50 rue_house sometimes just one dc and some clutches
20:50 rue_house 'galaxy to electron' thats a hint that I dont think gives it away
20:52 rue_house if that hint gives it away, I appologize
20:52 reesk92 whilst im getting that ir thing out the vcr i may as well harvest some other goodies
20:53 rue_house does it have a 4248 motor driver sip?
20:53 reesk92 how should i know ive yet to open it
20:54 reesk92 if it does?
20:54 rue_house 3 screws at the back, lift lid straight up
20:54 rue_house have to spread the sides a bit while lifting
20:54 reesk92 you are forgetting alot of steps
20:55 reesk92 dont wake parents its 3am
20:55 reesk92 dont make neighborus think im robbing the place
20:55 rue_house ?
20:55 reesk92 ect
20:55 rue_house }:]
20:55 reesk92 its 3am here
20:55 e_house walks about in circles banging on a
20:56 XSerpentX where my sluts at
20:56 m_itx calls the law for someone disturbing the p
20:56 reesk92 rue stop it or ill shove the vcr up your ass and use you ass a bench vice
20:56 reesk92 lmao
20:56 rue_house :)
20:56 XSerpentX How dare you
20:56 XSerpentX I got this kid, Lord Rue
20:56 reesk92 hush XSerpentX
20:56 rue_house XSerpentX, can you work out the mind challange?
20:56 reesk92 or ill use you as a solder pump
20:56 rue_house I think the less you think about it the more likey you are to discover the answer
20:56 XSerpentX mind challenge?
20:57 reesk92 meh
20:57 XSerpentX I am the Legendary General, SerpentX!
20:57 XSerpentX what is this petty test of intelligence you speak of
20:57 rue_house whats the strings meaning : "PTGMk munp"
20:57 esk92 turns on chuck norris
20:57 reesk92 i win
20:57 Tom_itx rue_house i completely forgot about it
20:57 reesk92 wanna try again
20:57 reesk92 oh ho you win how about anouther i win before you even try
20:57 reesk92 i win
20:57 reesk92 **
20:58 esk92 uses the sun as a suposit
20:59 rue_house know showing off
20:59 esk92 does not have genitals just by looking at a woman he can not only get her pregnant but can deliver the baby
20:59 reesk92 i like chuck noriis references
20:59 XSerpentX can i get a definition of "Strings meaning"?
20:59 rue_house ok, get it back on topic or we will have to kick you
20:59 rue_house that is a strign with legitimate meaning, so what is it?
21:01 katsmeow-afk 12ft mecha : http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/105/0/0/ROBOT_by_Fil3D.jpg
21:01 rue_house the non-wcb one where you sit in it :)
21:01 reesk92 rue why do you ask if it has a driver sip
21:02 rue_house katsmeow-afk, hmm, hips cant gyrate
21:02 XSerpentX umm
21:02 XSerpentX well my first answer is that is SPICE in the StrConv function
21:02 XSerpentX so since that is the actual spice used
21:03 XSerpentX i will say = True
21:03 rue_house no
21:04 rue_house katsmeow-afk, the model brings up an interesting idea
21:04 reesk92 i think i might make a reflow oven it looks o much easier way to solder
21:04 rue_house with a gripper that is geometric, you dont have to be able to rotate the wrist to grab something in any direction, you just change the fingers that are used for the grab
21:05 XSerpentX Convert::SciEng supplies an object for converting numbers to and from scientific notation with user-defined format ting. Two different styles of fix are supported, standard SI and SPICE:
21:05 XSerpentX SPICE = P T g x k ‘’ m u n p
21:05 katsmeow-afk i tried that, XSerpentX, rue said no
21:05 XSerpentX ok
21:05 XSerpentX the x is wrong
21:05 rue_house when did I say no?
21:05 XSerpentX ok so...I see capitals with lower case
21:05 XSerpentX so i guess it's not an abbreviation?
21:06 katsmeow-afk [20:36] <katsmeow-afk> well, i dunno what a munpfa is
21:06 katsmeow-afk [20:36] <rue_house> "PTGMk munp"
21:06 XSerpentX spice
21:06 XSerpentX like for encrypting
21:06 XSerpentX wait
21:06 XSerpentX that's salt
21:06 XSerpentX md5 + salt
21:06 XSerpentX my bad
21:07 XSerpentX ok so it could be missing some of it's vowels
21:07 XSerpentX and be sounded out
21:07 rue_house no its right
21:07 XSerpentX so it's not to be rearranged?
21:08 rue_house nope
21:08 rue_house the next letter is f
21:08 XSerpentX is it encrypted?
21:08 rue_house nope
21:08 reesk92 i think theres videos on hak 5 about salting hashes
21:08 reesk92 damnit now im hungry my mcdonalds hash browns
21:09 rue_house its not diced, salted, fried or baked
21:09 XSerpentX can i change the frame of reference?
21:09 rue_house its not even seasoned
21:09 rue_house you may apply any frame of reference
21:10 rue_house katsmeow-afk, cool image, good find.
21:10 XSerpentX ok i choose to apply a rocks frame of reference, to the rock it is beyond it's comprehension and not of importance; which is true
21:11 e_house apllies paper, paper beats r
21:12 rue_house ' tho we dont scientifically know why'
21:12 XSerpentX it wraps around it
21:12 erpentX shows rue, how the paper wraps around the
21:12 rue_house does that smother it to death?
21:12 tsmeow-afk sees dead r
21:13 XSerpentX no the paper has +50 to damage and a =20% fortitued vs rocks
21:13 rue_house ah
21:14 rue_house so because scisors are derived from rock, their inferior?
21:14 XSerpentX and cuz jesus said so
21:14 rue_house ah
21:15 XSerpentX and if you play the atomic bomb, you get to grab the girls boob
21:15 tsmeow-afk s
21:15 XSerpentX kat wants to play
21:15 XSerpentX i know what i'm genna use ;) ;)
21:16 rue_house I only exist for about 1 more hour
21:16 katsmeow-afk no, i think i do not want to play
21:16 katsmeow-afk what's the girl say about the grabbing?
21:16 XSerpentX ..only on the 2nd date?
21:17 katsmeow-afk shit
21:18 XSerpentX my friend wants to go tip cows
21:18 rue_house tell him thats immoral
21:19 XSerpentX ..it's a she, and she's only like 95lbs
21:19 XSerpentX i told her it's not genna work out
21:20 XSerpentX you guys play any sports?
21:20 rue_house I hate sports
21:21 rue_house sports to into overtime and screw up the good movie I wanted to watch
21:23 XSerpentX wow rue, ur never genna get your own personal beer cart girl, with that attitued
21:26 rue_house dont need to, I dont drink beer
21:27 XSerpentX PTGMk munp
21:27 XSerpentX is it english?
21:28 rue_house 'yes'
21:29 rue_house its of greek origin...
21:29 XSerpentX am i close ith audio spelling?
21:30 rue_house didn't know that
21:30 rue_house no
21:31 XSerpentX Good Luck?
21:32 rue_house no
21:33 XSerpentX does it have anything to do with Malay
21:33 rue_house not specifically
21:35 Tom_itx how long you gonna drag this out?
21:35 rue_house someone will get it
21:35 Tom_itx i'm not trying
21:35 rue_house I think it';; be kat as she dosn't fall asleep tonight
21:35 rue_house or you
21:36 katsmeow-afk i'm not trying
21:36 XSerpentX is it something world?
21:36 rue_house then you both have really high odds of working it out
21:36 rue_house something world?
21:36 XSerpentX yeah
21:37 XSerpentX like ____ world
21:37 rue_house no
21:37 XSerpentX does it have to do with world..or earth or something
21:37 rue_house has to do with everything
21:37 rue_house I dont want to give out too many clues or I'm gonna give it away
21:38 XSerpentX is it like end of the world..
21:38 XSerpentX apocolpyse
21:38 XSerpentX molecules
21:38 XSerpentX balance of nature
21:38 XSerpentX happyness
21:39 XSerpentX life
21:39 katsmeow-afk http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/018/4/1/hand_made_steel_robot_by_sinoera-d4mu1o5.jpg
21:39 rue_house I think your more likey to work it out if you dont try
21:39 rue_house OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo kat, thats big!
21:39 XSerpentX yeah..it's welded sold tho isn't it
21:39 XSerpentX if only they knew there was a guy named rue, that could put real motors and microcontrollers in there
21:40 katsmeow-afk real motors for real big cost real amounts
21:40 XSerpentX for real
21:41 rue_house mines gonna be about 1/4 the weight of that thing
21:41 rue_house if not less
21:41 XSerpentX omg
21:41 XSerpentX your not building one are u
21:41 rue_house ...
21:41 XSerpentX oh god,
21:41 rue_house wel....
21:41 XSerpentX i surrender
21:41 rue_house why are you asking?
21:41 XSerpentX because when your robot army comes
21:42 rue_house I TAKE OVER THE WORLD
21:42 XSerpentX i will join you
21:42 rue_house er, sorry, reflex
21:42 XSerpentX can i be your captain
21:42 XSerpentX or
21:42 XSerpentX maybe if i'm good,
21:42 XSerpentX General of the Eastern Division
21:42 XSerpentX i'll take china for u
21:43 katsmeow-afk shouldn't you first build robots to build robots?
21:43 rue_house the only target is china, duh
21:43 rue_house you take china and you have the world
21:43 katsmeow-afk forget China, conquor Somalia first, many countries will thank you
21:44 rue_house by the nuts, and semiconductors, and bottles, and cups, and vacuum cleanrs...
21:45 XSerpentX well
21:45 XSerpentX the closest thing i can come up with
21:45 XSerpentX to your meaning full string
21:45 XSerpentX is "pekerjaan mun"
21:45 rue_house katsmeow-afk, if you were in better shape do you not think you could have some fun building stuff like that?
21:45 XSerpentX which means world domination
21:45 rue_house no
21:46 XSerpentX is it a formula
21:46 rue_house no
21:46 XSerpentX is it a demon?
21:46 rue_house only for you!
21:46 XSerpentX hmm
21:46 katsmeow-afk http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs38/f/2008/325/d/8/d89cd093992d1291fe495e20381761b0.jpg
21:47 rue_house katsmeow-afk, I think the hands were a bit of a copout
21:47 katsmeow-afk rue, yeas
21:47 rue_house OOOO
21:47 XSerpentX neat
21:47 XSerpentX i've seen that kinda robot before
21:47 XSerpentX in a movie?
21:47 rue_house yea
21:47 rue_house lost in space
21:50 XSerpentX does GMk have anything to do ith godzilla
21:50 XSerpentX or rage
21:50 katsmeow-afk doggie : http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/018/f/8/hand_made_steel_robot_by_sinoera-d4mu2ir.jpg
21:52 XSerpentX is a molecular structure?
21:53 XSerpentX like platinum something potasium
21:54 esk92 steals everyones
21:55 XSerpentX what's so good in them?
21:55 reesk92 nothing
21:55 XSerpentX oh
21:55 esk92 trys to look inno
21:55 rue_house katsmeow-afk,
21:55 reesk92 MINNNEEEE
21:55 reesk92 runs
21:55 rue_house THATS NOT A DOG, THATS A HELL HOUND
21:56 XSerpentX is it cuz ur black, just like and old habit?
21:56 reesk92 who me ?
21:56 XSerpentX ya
21:56 reesk92 fuck you bitch cakes lol
21:56 reesk92 rue knows what im doing
21:56 rue_house nice language or we will kick ya
21:56 reesk92 ask him hes white
21:56 reesk92 hell tell you for a plea bargain
21:57 katsmeow-afk http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/241/e/6/3d_Robot_by_karsten.jpg
21:57 e_house rolls over laug
21:57 XSerpentX i like that one
21:57 XSerpentX it can patrol my house anyday
21:58 XSerpentX i wish i had 500 acres for it to patrol
21:58 katsmeow-afk http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/051/0/d/jim_and_the_robot_by_spockhorror-d4qczp6.jpg
21:59 rue_house pff
21:59 rue_house I cease to exist in 9 minutes
22:00 Tom_itx no
22:00 Tom_itx the world ceases to exhist for you
22:03 Tom_L http://www2.electronicproducts.com/How_to_build_a_SpeechJammer_Gun-article-fajb_speechjammer_march2012-html.aspx
22:06 rue_house just cause I'm gonna cease to exist dosn't mean you all have to stop talking
22:07 erpentX whipes his t
22:08 Tom_itx rue_house
22:08 rue_house yea?
22:08 Tom_itx i'm still 2hrs ahead of you on expiring
22:08 XSerpentX tom, i think that would actually work
22:08 rue_house 10 seconds left
22:08 rue_house 2
22:08 rue_house 1
22:08 XSerpentX shutdown /a
22:08 XSerpentX DO IT
22:08 katsmeow-afk http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/028/1/a/robot_by_gomye-d388098.jpg
22:08 XSerpentX dam
22:09 XSerpentX Offline has taken another one
22:09 XSerpentX yeah, i think robotsex is genna be big..unfortunatly
22:09 XSerpentX it'll be perfectly legal for sure
22:10 katsmeow-afk not according to Santorum
22:10 XSerpentX it'd be cooler if humans just evolved to a higher overall social level
22:11 katsmeow-afk "adults have no reason to expect privacy from gov int he bedroom"
22:11 XSerpentX Santorum?
22:11 katsmeow-afk Santorum is a guy running in 2nd place for usa pres as republican
22:12 XSerpentX i see
22:12 XSerpentX a senator
22:13 XSerpentX hey any of u guys try any dating websites?
22:14 XSerpentX theoretically, those should work
22:14 tsmeow-afk leaves for a trip to the store, because it's late and maybe less infested with humans
22:26 orlok Hmm
22:26 lok ponders how to attach an encoder to his m
22:26 orlok well, a pair
22:28 reesk92 duct tape
22:28 reesk92 pritt stick
22:28 reesk92 blu tack
22:28 reesk92 its all good
22:29 reesk92 i personally use organic home grown adesive
22:30 reesk92 taste batter thn paste too
22:32 orlok .. no...
22:33 lok ponders - slotted wheel with rubber edge driven by friction or transparent encoder disk addatched to s
22:49 reesk92 #make
22:50 reesk92 im failing at irc command today
22:50 XSerpentX attached to shaft
22:50 XSerpentX sounds hot
22:51 XSerpentX u guys keep up ith anti piracy law?
22:51 reesk92 not really
22:52 XSerpentX frig, i'm so screwed
22:52 reesk92 i break it anyway so no matter what it is it dosent bother me
22:52 reesk92 whys that then
22:52 XSerpentX i think ur missing the point
22:52 XSerpentX you will care, when you get fined
22:53 XSerpentX the old days of piracy are dying
22:53 reesk92 nah were just getting started
22:53 XSerpentX i'm screwed because i rent to students
22:53 reesk92 tequniques will improve methods will become easier
22:54 reesk92 rent what?
22:54 XSerpentX rooms
22:54 XSerpentX that come with internet
22:54 reesk92 hmm
22:54 XSerpentX it'll be dam hard to stop the them
22:54 XSerpentX and my name will be released since i own the internet account
22:55 XSerpentX i guess if i really needed
22:55 reesk92 theese days there after heavy pirates not sudents who steal a few albums
22:55 XSerpentX i could filter thru opendns
22:55 XSerpentX define heavy pirate
22:55 reesk92 downloading like 50 films a week selling them off on the local market
22:56 reesk92 i mean seriously eating bandwidth
22:56 XSerpentX i think also reesk, its not genna get easier
22:56 XSerpentX it's genna get more complicated
22:57 reesk92 well for average people it will
22:57 reesk92 look at every single console ever made
22:57 reesk92 new technology to stop piracy
22:57 reesk92 5 weeks later
22:58 reesk92 theres 50 game download sites and just as many cracks to circumvent
22:58 XSerpentX yeah, but the circumventing is more difficult
22:58 reesk92 people will just get more sophisticated with there downloads
22:58 XSerpentX look at ubisoft games
22:58 XSerpentX offline launchers
22:58 XSerpentX fake local account servers
22:59 XSerpentX not ur standard razor1911 drag and drop days anymore
22:59 XSerpentX not to mention steam multiplayer cracking
22:59 reesk92 people will look into encryption ssh tunnels bouncing off proxys
22:59 XSerpentX ye, that's what i was thinking
22:59 reesk92 well steam has a good system tbh
22:59 reesk92 i could probably pirate the games
23:00 reesk92 but there cheap enough
23:00 reesk92 and decent games
23:00 reesk92 so id rather buy them
23:00 reesk92 i mean they will give you there entire game library for 100 bucks
23:00 reesk92 the valve pack is like 30 bucks
23:01 reesk92 i wish i had actual cds
23:01 reesk92 but meh ill survive
23:01 reesk92 cause if a company goe bust oh well i still have the cd
23:01 reesk92 if steam goes ill be crewed
23:01 XSerpentX or if they ban ur account
23:01 reesk92 ban me for what
23:02 XSerpentX i let my lil brother use my counterstrike account
23:02 XSerpentX and he got suckered by those account theives
23:02 XSerpentX and i never got my account back
23:02 reesk92 thats a rare case though
23:02 XSerpentX steam are assholes
23:02 reesk92 unless your being dump or a freind is
23:02 reesk92 then you wont get banned
23:03 reesk92 if your legitimatley buying games they wont ban tyou
23:03 reesk92 also i dont quite see how they can ban you
23:03 reesk92 isnt that theft
23:03 XSerpentX yeah banned is the wrong word
23:03 reesk92 thats like saying thanks for buying our games we will take them back now ty
23:03 XSerpentX the thief changed the account email address, password, and secre question
23:03 reesk92 ahh
23:03 XSerpentX and i reported it to steam
23:03 XSerpentX and they did nothing
23:03 reesk92 steam arnt assholes
23:03 reesk92 the hackers are
23:04 reesk92 steam are at fault a lil though
23:04 reesk92 thats just like your freind stealing your ps3 and gamestop doing nothing
23:04 XSerpentX different
23:04 reesk92 they could of done something though ill agree
23:05 reesk92 verify your credit card
23:05 reesk92 id verification
23:05 reesk92 ect
23:05 XSerpentX it was pre
23:05 XSerpentX it was from the time, u buy it from walmart
23:05 XSerpentX and type in the seriel #
23:05 reesk92 hmmms
23:05 reesk92 i can see there point
23:05 reesk92 its hard to tell whos telling the truth
23:06 XSerpentX yeah, thats true
23:06 reesk92 lesson learnt
23:06 XSerpentX that what?
23:06 reesk92 dont use prepaid crds
23:06 reesk92 use paypal
23:06 reesk92 then you can prove your identity and stop payments to the system in emergencies
23:07 reesk92 steam on the other had
23:07 reesk92 hand
23:07 reesk92 should look into improving security
23:07 reesk92 like using a crypt key
23:08 reesk92 like they do in wow
23:08 reesk92 its not 100% but unless your lil bro is gonna mail them the crypt key then there ot getting in easily
23:09 XSerpentX yeah
23:09 reesk92 ultimatley the responsiblity falls with you
23:09 XSerpentX well in all fairness, piracy is wrong
23:10 reesk92 yeah i guess id be pissed if someone stole my stuff
23:10 XSerpentX but, i don't think giving them abilities to scan us
23:10 rue_house so is the business practise of microsoft
23:10 XSerpentX and watch our traffic is right
23:10 reesk92 although in some cases its victim less
23:10 XSerpentX i also don't agree with neural advertisements
23:10 reesk92 like say timmy downloads cod mw3
23:10 reesk92 you could say hes stolen 50 buck from the developer
23:11 reesk92 well timmy has not much money
23:11 reesk92 so he wouldnt of bought the game anyway
23:11 orlok copyright infringement != stealing
23:11 orlok and of course piracy is wrong, they are pointing goddamn guns in peoples faces
23:11 orlok thats why the US military sends out SEAL's to shoot them in the head
23:11 orlok THATS what happens to pirates.
23:12 reesk92 some stuff is way overpriced for what it is though
23:12 reesk92 i mean adobe crap
23:12 reesk92 500 dolalr for there creative sweet
23:12 XSerpentX yeah
23:12 XSerpentX pretty pricye
23:12 reesk92 wtf did you do to a piece of software you bought from macromedia for a few g
23:12 reesk92 to make it worth that
23:12 XSerpentX websites pretty much
23:12 reesk92 and tbh i prefered the macromedia version
23:13 XSerpentX the artists don't really get any money tho
23:13 reesk92 look at os software
23:13 reesk92 they make high quality software for free
23:13 orlok "they"?
23:13 reesk92 ubuntu 11.10 is stunning
23:14 XSerpentX i bet some ppl in here contributied to linux
23:14 reesk92 yeah
23:14 reesk92 it was a join effort
23:14 XSerpentX i'm an artist
23:14 XSerpentX music artist
23:14 XSerpentX with a released album
23:14 reesk92 linux could charge for this and people would pay or it
23:14 XSerpentX i know i got pirated
23:14 reesk92 but they dont
23:14 XSerpentX and i haven't gotten any $$$
23:14 orlok lol
23:15 XSerpentX god my own gf copywrited me
23:15 reesk92 hey is rape copyright
23:15 reesk92 cause your making clones without there permission
23:15 XSerpentX ya
23:15 orlok ... you two make my eyes bleed with your misuse of words
23:15 reesk92 uh oh
23:16 XSerpentX reesk, we should rape some girls then sue them for copywrite infringement
23:16 reesk92 errm your not grasping the consept
23:16 reesk92 they would need to rape us for us to do that
23:16 reesk92 otherwise were just giving them coppys
23:17 XSerpentX hmm
23:17 XSerpentX so no raping the girls?
23:17 reesk92 lets now
23:17 reesk92 not
23:17 XSerpentX wow
23:17 XSerpentX that is a froidian slip
23:17 reesk92 and thats probably copyright
23:17 XSerpentX reesk, i want to pin you down from behind
23:18 XSerpentX and whisper into you ear "...I'm an assman"
23:18 reesk92 and i want to undergoe genetic engeneering to have teeth in my asshole now
23:19 orlok no, you just need an anal dentata.
23:19 reesk92 ok
23:19 reesk92 STOP
23:19 XSerpentX lol
23:19 reesk92 how did we go from students downloading music to anal teeth
23:19 XSerpentX same way i always end up watching teen girls strip on youtube
23:20 reesk92 i love youtube
23:20 reesk92 its so funny whn you read comments and see
23:20 reesk92 how did i go from watching a networking video to hentai rape porn
23:22 reesk92 hey ive had a idea for a arduino project for you XSerpentX
23:22 reesk92 use a ethernet shield and sd card to log network traffic
23:23 XSerpentX sounds easy
23:24 orlok depends on the sort of traffic you want to log and what sort of ethernet interface you actually have access to
23:24 orlok but i'd also say using something libe a rasberry pi would be simpler
23:26 reesk92 i want a rasberry pi
23:26 reesk92 yeah you could just run fedora and tcpdump on that
23:29 reesk92 although packet data for downloads would be alot
23:29 XSerpentX hey that's cool
23:29 XSerpentX cute lil guy
23:29 reesk92 what?
23:29 XSerpentX rasberry pi
23:29 reesk92 yeah
23:30 reesk92 it makes a awesome portable pc or server
23:32 XSerpentX ya
23:32 XSerpentX only 25$?