#robotics Logs
Mar 03 2012
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00:21 rue_house https://www.circuitlab.com/editor/
00:21 rue_house hey
00:23 zhanx just got out of work
00:24 zhanx having a well well deserved beer i work 18 hours today
00:24 zhanx workded
00:24 zhanx worked
00:42 rue_house theBear,
00:43 rue_house I just simulated the adc from http://elm-chan.org/works/srp/srp.png in https://www.circuitlab.com/editor/
01:15 rue_house 'm running the simulation at 100Khz clock rate, and its not a great responce
01:15 katsmeow-afk toldyaso
01:16 rue_house I think it would do better at the 16Mhz its designed for
01:17 rue_house the simulator dosn't like doing 5ms of circuit simulation that has a 1Mhz source in it
01:17 katsmeow-afk i suspect it's won't, due to 2 cheap lowpass filters in the audio path
01:20 rue_house its pretty good for an online simulator tho
01:22 rue_house the reverse capacitance of a diode will always fall to (wards) 0pf as it gets closer to conduction (from reverse bias) yes?
01:23 katsmeow-afk i forget, it's after midnite
01:23 katsmeow-afk besides, i ate sleepy pills
01:23 rue_house hmm the responce of the adc is much better when I dial up the simulation interval
01:24 rue_house oo thats not bad
01:25 rue_house (digital clock at 16Mhz, and simulation time slice at 5us)
01:29 rue_house digital recreation of the stream would require modeling the RC circuit that the ADC compares against
01:30 katsmeow-afk you know at 16Mhz, the 32k ram will last only 2ms ?
01:32 katsmeow-afk use a megabyte, get 62ms of delay
01:32 katsmeow-afk at 16Mhz, you should be able to remove those lowpass filters too
01:33 rue_house I'm just kinda interested in the circuit as a curiosity
01:33 katsmeow-afk o
01:33 rue_house think I can make a collpitts oscillator in one
01:34 rue_house the simulator?
01:37 katsmeow-afk .
01:42 katsmeow-afk .
01:56 rue_house the oscillator isn't simulating
02:04 GuShH rue_house: you need to get it started
02:04 GuShH it won't oscillate otherwise in an ideal situation.
02:05 GuShH send a pulse, start at 0v, etc.
02:05 GuShH add variance to the capacitance and inductance values, etc. in reality lots of oscillators work because of these differences in values
02:05 rue_house hmm
02:11 rue_house last week I was working on a breadord live and inserted a jumper across a 30V 440uF cap...
02:12 rue_house another dead row on the breadboard
06:20 theBear just cleaning up tabs... found the description for that delta sigma circuit.. http://elm-chan.org/works/srp/report_e.html
09:37 e_bed stret
09:38 theBear hey buddy.....
09:38 theBear look at the last thing i said when yer in the mood
09:39 Tom_itx sorting disks... see any reason to keep novell?
09:39 theBear nostalgia ? i still got qemm somewhere
09:39 theBear and win3.1 and 3.11a
09:40 Tom_itx nostalgia takes up room
09:40 Tom_itx how much nostalgia do i need?
09:40 theBear yeah, but, yer asking the wrong guy for the answer you want :)
09:40 Tom_itx oh, you keep it all too ehh?
09:40 rue_bed I think I got rid of my copy of netware
09:41 Tom_itx i got a 25 user and several 2 users
09:42 rue_bed its worth nothing cause people like you dont throw it out to make it rare :)
09:42 theBear man, you shoulda seen before i moved state... it was ridiculous
09:42 theBear hehe
09:44 Tom_itx dammit. you're not helping here
09:44 rue_bed how about keep disk 1, but you have to put it in a frame
09:45 Tom_itx well i gotta keep nt4
09:45 Tom_itx still use it to verify for other installs
09:45 rue_bed can it even read the new ntfs?
09:46 Tom_itx new?
09:46 theBear the new one isn't ntfs is it ? i thought it was a new partition table system
09:46 rue_bed iirc they changes ntfs mid xp
09:46 theBear efi compatible or something
09:46 Tom_itx what was ms frontpage for?
09:46 e_bed sh
09:46 rue_bed dont use that os anymore
09:47 rue_bed frontpage is for editing webpages
09:47 rue_bed I use firefox
09:47 theBear yeah, even modern frontpage sucks balls and ruins webcode... set that one on fire :)
09:48 theBear before about 2005 it was even worse
09:48 Tom_itx 97 :)
09:48 theBear hehehe
09:48 Tom_itx omg i found tetris!!
09:48 theBear keep that!
09:48 rue_bed KEEP THAT
09:49 rue_bed hahaha
09:49 theBear i miss welltris
09:49 Tom_itx :)
09:49 Tom_itx here's some unopened cam software
09:49 rue_bed oo
09:50 rue_bed one of hte shareware ones or something real
09:50 Tom_itx real
09:50 Tom_itx never used it
09:50 rue_bed I remember as the internet was comming out there were shareware disk racks, like $2/program
09:50 Tom_itx it may be a demo i can't tell
09:50 rue_bed what name?
09:51 Tom_itx espirit next generation cam
09:51 rue_bed never heard of it
09:51 Tom_itx you're not exactly waist deep in cam either
09:51 Tom_itx caldera
09:51 rue_bed throw out caldera
09:52 Tom_itx star office
09:52 theBear mmm often with 'classic' old bbs names, like the nightowl collection
09:52 rue_bed :) keep a photo maybe
09:52 Steffanx Tom_itx also still keeps his old floppies?
09:52 theBear who doesn't ?
09:52 Tom_itx oh hell yes
09:52 Tom_itx i did finally toss some 360's
09:52 e_bed remembers the name nightow
09:53 theBear heh, until recently i was the only guy in town that could still read 5 1/4" disks :)
09:53 Steffanx theBear does?
09:53 Tom_itx i still have one sir
09:53 rue_bed I have a 'format if needed, less than 100% ok throw out' pile
09:54 rue_bed I wonder how the apple IIe floppies are holding up
09:54 theBear heh, not good without a bake
09:54 rue_bed heh, HOWLLLLLL
09:55 rue_bed I should take it out of the box and try sometime
09:55 rue_bed I'd have imaged them if I could have
09:55 Tom_itx mmm
09:55 Tom_itx delphi
09:55 rue_bed what year?
09:56 rue_bed 2003+ might be savable
09:56 Tom_itx no idea
09:56 rue_bed pascall is a pretty good language
09:56 rue_bed never got popular enough
09:56 Tom_itx :) ver 3
09:56 e_bed sh
09:56 theBear indeed, i can barely even remember it.... tho in the dos days i did more than a little
09:56 rue_bed it generated quite nice assembler
09:57 rue_bed I could usually tell from the assembler if a program had been written in pascall
09:57 theBear i was too young to check asm back then, then again, only a year or 2 later i read that m6800(0?) book that taught me everything i ever needed to know about that kinda thing
09:57 Tom_itx ms 3.11 office pro
09:57 Steffanx :D
09:57 m_itx sends that to Stef
09:57 Steffanx Yay
09:59 Tom_itx carr lane catalog with dwg and iges on disk
09:59 e_bed sits up, hits his head, and lays back
10:00 m_itx shoves all the disks to the side and installs te
10:00 e_bed glares at theB
10:01 theBear what ? hehehe in bed eh rue ? :)
10:01 theBear hehehehee
10:01 theBear i haven't had a bunk since i moved here a year and a half ago
10:01 theBear kinda miss it, but i don't have to explain so much to girls anymore :)
10:01 rue_bed IT DONS'T WORK WITHOUT A 10' CIELING
10:02 theBear well, raise the ceiling, obviously
10:02 theBear last one there was JUST enough room for a large and a small adult body to lay atop one another without touching the ceiling
10:03 theBear obviously fully dressed and not moving, that would be indecent
10:03 rue_bed trailers have low cielings
10:03 theBear you live in a trailer now ?
10:03 rue_bed my place is half trailer
10:03 rue_bed leaks heat like a *****
10:03 theBear stick a clear plastic dome on top where yer head hits the roof
10:04 rue_bed heh, there are structural 1x3's in the way
10:04 theBear then instead of hitting your head you can kinda periscope above your room
10:04 theBear 1x3 ? structural ? pfft
10:04 rue_bed its a trailer
10:04 rue_bed the inside walls are 2x2
10:04 theBear so surely it expects more bumps than a regular building :)
10:04 rue_bed outside are 2x3
10:05 theBear oooh, cavity walled trailer ? crazy foreigners, that's kinda cool
10:07 rue_bed there is a bit of insulation in there, maybe R4
10:07 rue_bed maybe 3
10:08 theBear mmm.. i aint done insulation for a long time, i forget r's... tho i think about 2-2.5 is common here
10:08 rue_bed guh
10:08 rue_bed less than 20 is sad here
10:08 rue_bed 2 is like what, same as a fridge?
10:09 rue_bed or hot water tank?
10:10 theBear like i say, i don't remember
10:10 rue_bed the insulation in this trailer is 2-3cm thick
11:18 rue_house http://www.marginallyclever.com/2012/02/linear-interpolation-vs-trapezoid-motioninterpolation/
11:18 rue_house aggvav8ted still didn't fix the typo
11:21 rue_house I suppose I should write a velocity profiler for my interpolator
11:24 rue_house katsmeow-afk,
11:24 rue_house http://hackaday.com/2012/03/03/tutorial-series-shows-you-everything-you-need-to-salvage-transformers-from-microwaves/
11:24 rue_house interested?
11:27 rue_house pt 2 has way too many basica in it
11:29 rue_house has nice diagrams tho
11:32 rue_house haha I love the humor tho
11:33 Tom_itx this can't be good
11:37 rue_house hahah pt1 uses a lighter for soldering
11:40 Tom_itx found a switch i didn't know i had
11:41 theBear err, relax, worse things have happened
11:43 Tom_itx my office is getting moved
11:44 theBear ok
11:44 rue_house katsmeow-afk, the videos are dry with patches of good humor
11:45 rue_house also has some pro tricks I'm not seen before
13:36 katsmeow-afk no sound here anyhow
13:41 katsmeow-afk would have been more fun if when he went to disconnect the capacitor, there was still voltage on it, like the bleeder resistor had burned open
13:41 katsmeow-afk yep, always use the wrong tools first
13:42 katsmeow-afk those itty bitty transformers are great for putting in 2U rackmount boxes
13:42 theBear did someone say video about disassembling microwave ovens and it didn't include checked the cap is bled ? that's irresonsible as hell
13:43 katsmeow-afk bear, yep, in fact "someone" did say that ==>> katsmeow-afk!~someone@unaffiliated/katsmeow
13:43 theBear :)
13:44 katsmeow-afk guy needs a wobblier camera tripod, to keep in sync with his workbench
13:44 theBear heh, you almost talked me into watching it
13:45 katsmeow-afk i dunno if they said in the audio, the very construction type of not interleaving the EI pieces makes the core act more like a choke
13:46 katsmeow-afk the gaps in the iron magnetic path putting it back together are significant
13:47 theBear mmm... the few transformers i've reassembled i squeeze up REAL hard, tap the last few laminations in with a hammer, usually get all or only 1 not in there
13:48 katsmeow-afk MOTs are not interleaved tho, never are
13:48 theBear mmm.. never done one myself
13:48 katsmeow-afk they are pretty stiff as is, very stiff if the shunts are driven out
13:49 katsmeow-afk i built a tester and got multiple readings at 10 diff currents at 2kv, they are pretty respectable devices, even for all the faults
13:51 katsmeow-afk if you need a high power transformer, and can fan cool it, buying a new microwave to rewind when on sale beats buying one from Mouser, Digikey, Newark, etc
13:52 katsmeow-afk they prolly didn't mention in the audio: when winding multiple secondaries, each one subtracts some voltage (when under load) from all the rest, so calculations cannot be precise
13:54 katsmeow-afk i wound a big mot to make 10 12vrms secondaries, tested it by putting them in series and powering a 900w portable room heater
14:00 Tom_itx any reason to keep an ancient cablemodem?
14:00 katsmeow-afk keep the pcb for parts?
14:01 katsmeow-afk power plug, ram, leds, lan jacks
14:01 katsmeow-afk walwart that came with it
14:05 katsmeow-afk "mincrowave" ?
14:28 katsmeow-afk o, a "devil king" i am soooo scared
14:29 Arthas666 lol
14:53 gartt What would cause something rated for 15 amps pull 80 from the wall outlet?
14:53 Tom_itx a short somewhere
14:54 gartt Tom_itx: Ah, thanks. Old camera stuff from the 70s/80s
14:55 gartt So something loose inside is likely making contact where is shouldn't?
15:17 theBear jeez, you pulled 80a out of the wall and the wall didn't melt ?
15:39 reesk92 haro
16:29 reesk92 haya Tom_itx
17:05 rue_house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4BoEam3iY&feature=related
17:05 rue_house why are people making KCLO4?
17:09 rue_house just homebrew firecrackers? there's dedication
17:21 katsmeow-afk prolly like ammonia, you can't get it legally
17:24 rue_house oh
17:24 rue_house today has been a day that makes me want to crawl into a hole
17:24 rue_house alot like yesterday
17:24 rue_house and last week
17:24 rue_house and the week before
17:26 tsmeow-afk
17:26 katsmeow-afk i went off on anotehr Walmart emloyee today
17:27 Tom_itx did they have it coming?
17:27 katsmeow-afk yep
17:28 katsmeow-afk she insisted several times that i needed her help going thru an open door, and it was difficult to do, all the while people were walking thru it with no appearance of difficulty
17:29 katsmeow-afk i myself was halfway thru when she stoppedme
17:29 katsmeow-afk and while she was explaining to me how difficult it was, some guy breezed thru with no effort at all
17:34 katsmeow-afk so i shoved the grocery cart the rest of the way thru, and looked at it, and suggested to her it was a lot easier than she thinks it is
17:34 katsmeow-afk she said she was being thoughtful by repeatedly suggesting i cannot get thru an open door without a caretaker
17:35 katsmeow-afk a 6ft wide 8ft tall open doorway
17:35 katsmeow-afk so yeas, for stopping me and then insulting me, i went off on her
17:39 zhanx evening
17:40 zhanx an sweet
17:43 katsmeow-afk eveing
17:43 tsmeow-afk takes a running leap into a pile of skit
18:20 katsmeow-afk .
18:33 XSerpentX sup true players
18:33 anx looks for the pla
18:34 tsmeow-afk imagines true pla
18:34 XSerpentX where is lord rue
18:35 tsmeow-afk ponders a scaled up tennis ball shooter thing, firing bowling balls, and wondering if that is by default a we
18:35 XSerpentX i saw a bowling ball mortar before
18:35 katsmeow-afk i saw a bowling ball trebuchet
18:35 zhanx nope kat its a toy
18:35 katsmeow-afk really? kool!
18:36 katsmeow-afk lets see some dope in a fiberglass skiff try to take me on on the open seas :-))
18:36 zhanx lol
18:37 XSerpentX i bet u i could take u in my windsurfer
18:37 zhanx know kat she can make antipersonall devices easy
18:37 katsmeow-afk what's a windsurfer, and why would it take on a steel hulled 40ft boat?
18:38 XSerpentX cuz i'm a pirate?
18:38 zhanx kat like a surfboard with a sail on t
18:38 zhanx it
18:38 katsmeow-afk oh
18:38 katsmeow-afk <crunch>
18:38 zhanx yep
18:40 XSerpentX once i commodere your ship, i'll make you my wench
18:40 XSerpentX and we can have some bastard offspring
18:40 zhanx if you commodere the ship
18:40 zhanx odds are... loss of limb is higher
18:40 XSerpentX i'm a high level, of course I will
18:40 katsmeow-afk i am still trying to fnd the word "commodere"
18:41 XSerpentX wow...how dare you
18:41 zhanx to take over
18:41 katsmeow-afk spelling, zhanx, spelling
18:41 zhanx my weakness
18:41 katsmeow-afk commandeer
18:41 XSerpentX i thought that was how
18:42 XSerpentX but don't worry, if we miss spell it long enough they will change it
18:42 katsmeow-afk and you thought spear guns were not hidden in doors and fired by computer, right?
18:43 zhanx or worse
18:43 XSerpentX i'll have lord rue manning the turret on my windsurfer
18:43 katsmeow-afk up thru the steel grating
18:43 XSerpentX no survivors with him
18:43 zhanx kat with mock up my subs with ordinance
18:43 zhanx will*
18:43 zhanx stealth via materials
18:44 XSerpentX ya but i'm the handsome pirate hero
18:44 katsmeow-afk i really like the idea i can escape a 70mph cigarrette boat by traveling only 20ft, but it will make for an impossible sailboat if built to do that
18:44 XSerpentX so i will always win
18:45 XSerpentX and then all ur bases is belong to me
18:46 katsmeow-afk im most coastal waterways, if the boat is 20ft down, your windsurfer will never find it
18:47 XSerpentX ..the force will guide me
18:47 katsmeow-afk to your doom
18:47 XSerpentX i forgot to tell you i'm a handsome jedi pirate hero
18:47 katsmeow-afk just not a bright one?
18:48 XSerpentX that's what my helmet is for, +39 to Intelligence
18:48 katsmeow-afk pirates an be extremely oppressive to women, so nearly no women join, so for a pirate to have an active sex life, he'd haveto be gay
18:49 zhanx +1
18:49 katsmeow-afk witness: Johnny Depp's character in pirate movies
18:49 XSerpentX hence why i want to make you my wench when i commodeer your ship
18:50 katsmeow-afk still cannot spell that, eh?
18:50 zhanx like i said good luck with that
18:50 XSerpentX it's ok, i know your into it
18:50 zhanx kat is a crazy crazy robot building captain
18:50 zhanx her ai will rule you
18:50 XSerpentX what robots do u have
18:50 XSerpentX i have a roomba
18:50 zhanx just a few
18:50 katsmeow-afk not gonna tell you
18:50 XSerpentX and a survielence bot i mad
18:51 zhanx i build my own dont buy them
18:51 XSerpentX cool
18:51 XSerpentX like what
18:51 zhanx like legged evil spider bots
18:51 XSerpentX cool
18:51 XSerpentX what else
18:51 zhanx and subs, tracked and other crap like that
18:52 XSerpentX neat, u have cameras on ur subs?
18:52 katsmeow-afk was the NR-1 ever tracked?
18:52 zhanx gonna build another sub bot this summer to explorer lake erie
18:52 zhanx nope
18:52 XSerpentX oh
18:52 XSerpentX u should cam that
18:52 zhanx i do cam them
18:52 zhanx the nope was to the NR-1
18:52 XSerpentX god, i really enjoyed a cam on a pan and tilt
18:52 XSerpentX like that was heaven
18:52 XSerpentX mouse controlled
18:52 katsmeow-afk roumour was it could move along the bottom, and there have been tracked crawlers like that
18:53 zhanx the USS orlock 2 will be better than USS orlock 1
18:53 XSerpentX kat, it's ok if the only robot you made is a custom vibrator..you can tell us
18:53 zhanx XSerpentX: kat specializes in custom AI
18:53 XSerpentX oh yeah, like what
18:54 zhanx ask her about tiggoe
18:54 zhanx tigger
18:55 XSerpentX you guys should market stuff that syncs to music
18:56 XSerpentX that's cool
18:56 zhanx sure then i would have to shut down my personal cloud server to test it
18:56 XSerpentX what do you do with your personal cloud server
18:57 zhanx everything
18:57 XSerpentX liekw aht
18:57 zhanx but its private and not tracked
18:57 katsmeow-afk now i know what hapened:
18:57 katsmeow-afk Posted in Hosting, 21st February 2012 16:31 GMT
18:57 katsmeow-afk Scroogle - a not-for-profit search engine that offered users something of a pro-privacy antidote to Google - has been killed off by its creator.
18:58 XSerpentX ok?
18:58 XSerpentX so what
18:58 XSerpentX google has done alot for the world
18:58 katsmeow-afk ok?
18:58 katsmeow-afk so what
18:58 zhanx ok XSerpentX everything you can do online is filtered through my server
18:58 XSerpentX ok
18:59 XSerpentX so a dns proxy server
18:59 zhanx plus i have access to my movies and music to my phone and i can program stuff and compile it when i am bored
18:59 XSerpentX great
18:59 XSerpentX ok so a vpn server
18:59 XSerpentX and isn't that like a really bad idea
18:59 zhanx access to a full complier etc via phone with everything that is not tracked, if i want a feature i add it
18:59 XSerpentX assuming they are nilligetiment iracy movies
19:00 zhanx no i copy my blue rays to my computer
19:00 XSerpentX how is it not tracked
19:00 zhanx why pirate i have a job
19:00 zhanx i own the server
19:00 XSerpentX so how is it cloud
19:00 XSerpentX i thoughyt u meant EC2
19:00 XSerpentX or something
19:00 XSerpentX when u say cloud
19:00 zhanx many people can access it, and its a few computers on it
19:00 zhanx my cluster etc
19:00 XSerpentX oh
19:01 XSerpentX when u say cloud server i think like u have a VM on a datacenter
19:01 zhanx i have a 13 computer cluster
19:01 XSerpentX cool
19:01 XSerpentX what os
19:01 zhanx 12 slaves and a master and its linux ubuntu
19:01 XSerpentX oh
19:01 zhanx so its a cloud
19:01 XSerpentX neat, i was thinking of doing that for my webserver
19:01 XSerpentX i guess
19:02 XSerpentX i think it's just a cluster
19:02 zhanx a personal cloud
19:02 katsmeow-afk xhanx has more puters than i do now?
19:02 XSerpentX yeah..kinda hazy on that "cloud" deff
19:02 XSerpentX i have more then both of you
19:02 XSerpentX easy
19:02 katsmeow-afk sure you do,, pics?
19:02 zhanx cloud is multi computers on a dual or more internet access which i have 2 internet sources
19:03 XSerpentX yeah, ur really stretching that buzz word tho
19:03 zhanx true
19:03 zhanx but like i said personal cloud
19:03 XSerpentX i have at least 40 pcs
19:03 zhanx 40?
19:04 XSerpentX at least
19:04 katsmeow-afk pics or it doesn't count
19:04 XSerpentX my roomate is a model, and we use to joke, if she ever had more shoes then I have computers, we could have a problem
19:04 zhanx i got 13 in one box, a game machine, 3 laptops and my school computer
19:04 zhanx my college is windows only which sucks
19:05 katsmeow-afk i have over 10 on the shelf
19:05 XSerpentX yeah, mine are a combo of linux and windows
19:05 XSerpentX i use to have a macbook
19:05 XSerpentX but i sold it
19:05 zhanx kat we are about even on computers but 40.....
19:05 XSerpentX i wish i still had it
19:05 XSerpentX this vm is not the same
19:06 katsmeow-afk zhanx, i don't believe him
19:06 XSerpentX i own a computer service company
19:06 XSerpentX as well i service libraries all over canada
19:06 zhanx kat you need to cluster your computers to save on power
19:06 XSerpentX no way
19:06 XSerpentX i don't beleive that shan
19:06 katsmeow-afk cluster? closer together?
19:07 zhanx i run 2 off one psu
19:07 XSerpentX na
19:07 XSerpentX i seriously doubt that
19:07 XSerpentX they will only draw the power they need
19:07 katsmeow-afk i can't, got the mobo full up on ram and the cases full up on hds
19:07 XSerpentX so a single server will need say 110W
19:07 XSerpentX 2 will draw 110
19:07 XSerpentX 220W
19:08 XSerpentX ur ups should show this info
19:08 zhanx kat, i forgot your a data hog, mine are ssd for processing
19:08 XSerpentX kat, u got a file share?
19:08 katsmeow-afk no
19:08 XSerpentX oh
19:08 XSerpentX i'm looking at buying a new server
19:08 XSerpentX for file storage / mysql
19:09 zhanx just get some atom boards.
19:09 zhanx used the best price / gig of ram
19:09 XSerpentX eww
19:09 XSerpentX no thx
19:09 XSerpentX http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182253
19:10 zhanx cheap low power your only accessing them not using them
19:10 XSerpentX http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115083
19:10 XSerpentX http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139262
19:10 zhanx http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121442
19:10 zhanx cheap and works
19:10 katsmeow-afk i was doing a distributed data storage across a gigabit lan, but one of the "upgrades" from M$ linked ICS to the firewall , cutting my 650mbs (sustained) on the lan in half, and then cut the number of concurrent connections to 10,, and damnit i have more than 10 puters on the lan here
19:10 zhanx its a server not a desktop
19:11 zhanx kat can you roll back.. ( i have to make time to teach you linux)
19:11 XSerpentX yeah
19:11 katsmeow-afk no, there's a couple patches online to undo the concurrent issue tho
19:11 XSerpentX god
19:11 XSerpentX ms servers are retarded
19:12 katsmeow-afk i never seen a WORKING nix box
19:12 XSerpentX ?
19:12 XSerpentX u need to get out more
19:12 katsmeow-afk why? i know no one using nix
19:12 XSerpentX really
19:12 XSerpentX dang
19:12 XSerpentX where do u live
19:12 katsmeow-afk in fact, i don't know wnay one else in Alabama that has a computer
19:13 XSerpentX oh..i see
19:13 XSerpentX i'm coming to texas in april
19:13 katsmeow-afk that's your problem
19:13 XSerpentX genna go to grand canyon and such
19:13 XSerpentX anyways, kat
19:13 XSerpentX linux is awesome
19:13 XSerpentX no stupid restrictions
19:14 XSerpentX no like, give us money all ur money for mediocre software that linux gives u for free
19:14 XSerpentX it's really not that hard at all
19:15 XSerpentX just follow the howtoforge on linux servers
19:15 zhanx ok
19:15 XSerpentX i created my webserver / mysql in like 1 day years when i was retarded
19:16 zhanx need to get my bag ready for tomorrow guess i am doing the prescreen for combatives in the morning
19:16 katsmeow-afk i wrote web servers, including a threaded on in __MIRC__
19:16 XSerpentX cool
19:16 zhanx the senior just broke his leg snow boarding
19:16 XSerpentX what's that mean
19:17 XSerpentX u like receive connections
19:17 XSerpentX and transmit the http files?
19:17 katsmeow-afk yeas
19:17 XSerpentX cool, they had a tutorial for that for the arduino
19:17 katsmeow-afk that's what an http server does
19:17 zhanx kat ask tigger wear i put my kick pads please
19:17 zhanx i moved and everything is still in boxes
19:17 katsmeow-afk she'd still down from the move back here, sorry
19:18 zhanx dang
19:18 zhanx wait found my ufc bag they are in it
19:19 XSerpentX u train zhan?
19:19 zhanx yep
19:19 zhanx i am a little guy so i have to train hard
19:20 XSerpentX cool, what styles are you best at
19:20 zhanx lately crutch style
19:20 katsmeow-afk heh
19:20 zhanx just finshed knee brace style
19:20 XSerpentX injured?
19:20 zhanx right knee too a bad hit in football on it
19:20 XSerpentX ahh
19:20 XSerpentX shitty
19:21 zhanx happens as a line backer
19:21 XSerpentX ...?
19:21 zhanx brace is off now tho
19:21 XSerpentX what is your definition of "little guy"
19:21 zhanx came off last Wednesday
19:21 zhanx well i am only 241 right now so i am little
19:22 XSerpentX that's considered large here in canada
19:22 zhanx i am little
19:22 XSerpentX god dam u americans are fat
19:22 XSerpentX no offence
19:22 zhanx i am not fat, right kat?
19:22 katsmeow-afk for sure
19:23 zhanx my height and weight was friday i was 8%
19:23 zhanx body fat
19:23 zhanx stupid injury
19:23 katsmeow-afk tell him how short you are and how little you usually bench press
19:23 zhanx lol
19:23 katsmeow-afk ;-)
19:24 zhanx how about i just grab a weapon and show him what i do for a living ?
19:24 XSerpentX sure, answer all the above
19:24 zhanx in the army i am a airborne ranger
19:25 zhanx i pick up heave things and put them down
19:25 zhanx i am 6'4"
19:25 zhanx as wide as a door, but that only means never judge a book by its cover, some people are smart and appear to be dumb
19:26 zhanx you can never tell what is behind the eyes of the person till they open their mouth and either suck all the oxygen out of the room or appear smart
19:27 XSerpentX cool
19:27 XSerpentX i bet if i were in the army i'd be a ranger
19:27 XSerpentX i'd be a good captain too
19:27 zhanx its a bit of work i just fix things now
19:27 XSerpentX is there such thing as a Ranger Captain?
19:27 zhanx captain is a hard job, try mine for one day
19:27 zhanx i have 64 soldiers in my platoon
19:28 XSerpentX cool
19:28 zhanx manage them but you want to be an 0-3
19:28 XSerpentX what's that
19:28 zhanx there is a such thing as a ranger captain (o-3 is captain pay grade)
19:29 zhanx ranger is a school
19:29 zhanx anyone can do it
19:29 zhanx or attempt it
19:29 XSerpentX oh
19:29 zhanx all my captains have been rangers
19:30 katsmeow-afk 80% washout rate
19:30 XSerpentX really
19:30 zhanx of the 20% that make it 50% are recycled
19:30 zhanx i took 10 weeks to make a 9 week course
19:30 zhanx i was above average
19:30 XSerpentX i think from what i've just read ranger fits my skillset and personality best
19:31 zhanx can you run
19:31 XSerpentX fast
19:31 zhanx as in?
19:31 zhanx 2 miles 10 minutes fast?
19:31 XSerpentX as in i played professional league soccer
19:31 zhanx ok but can you carry a load at that speed
19:31 XSerpentX depends the load
19:31 zhanx say 40 kilos
19:31 XSerpentX i'm fit and strong, but i'm no muel
19:31 katsmeow-afk soccer is mostly sprints, i layed league soccer too
19:32 XSerpentX i'd struggle carrying a person that far
19:32 zhanx you have to be both
19:32 katsmeow-afk i useto be able to run with 100lbs, cannot now, damned injuries
19:32 zhanx i can carry weigh as far as needed (well knee will decide that now)
19:33 zhanx but normal ruck march is 150 pounds 12 miles in 2 hours
19:33 zhanx i barely made that monday
19:33 zhanx but made it
19:33 XSerpentX yeah, i'm not that strong
19:33 katsmeow-afk 6mph is a slow jog?
19:33 zhanx need to be
19:33 zhanx yep
19:33 XSerpentX i'm only 165lbs
19:33 XSerpentX so carrying heavy loads would be my weakness
19:34 zhanx XSerpentX: half my soldiers are 150-180 and can do it
19:34 katsmeow-afk i miss running, the breeze in my hair, etc
19:34 XSerpentX i think tho my intelligence, skillset, and leadership would more then make up for it
19:34 zhanx kat i hope i get to start again wed, it when i see the surgeon
19:34 XSerpentX well if they can do it, i can do it, i've never been outmatched
19:34 zhanx XSerpentX: its not that its experience
19:34 katsmeow-afk if they offer a new knee, make sure it's non-magnetic
19:35 zhanx i got the new knee in dec, its full of screws
19:35 zhanx stupid thing is twice the normal size
19:35 XSerpentX geez, that sounds bad
19:36 katsmeow-afk you remember me telling you ~10 months ago that you could be wearing out your joints from too much muscle working them?
19:36 zhanx yep i remember and i said it wont happen as i squat'd 1200
19:36 zhanx and now look at me
19:36 katsmeow-afk yep, happened
19:36 zhanx can even squat
19:36 XSerpentX i have no injuries and i'm thankful
19:36 zhanx cant
19:36 XSerpentX i'm also EXTREMELY careful
19:36 XSerpentX about that
19:37 zhanx XSerpentX: i hopped in on special teams due to an injury and got injured
19:37 XSerpentX geez
19:37 zhanx took an illegal hit to my knee etc
19:37 XSerpentX that's unlucky
19:37 zhanx yep
19:38 zhanx one play 3 people out of football for life
19:38 XSerpentX one guy nearly smashed my face off when i use to play football
19:38 XSerpentX i still have a scar on my shoulder
19:38 XSerpentX i was a wide receiver
19:38 zhanx dude that hit me, we found out later broke his neck
19:38 XSerpentX amatuer?
19:39 zhanx dude i hit i gave brain trauma to for life and semi pro
19:39 zhanx and me with my knee i am out
19:39 XSerpentX yeah, i avoid that kinda stuff
19:39 katsmeow-afk with artificial knee, you should be back in
19:39 zhanx kat if i break it they cant replace it
19:40 zhanx tis a risk verus fun
19:40 katsmeow-afk it's just that eventually, you will need all joints replaced, and that's just not possible in today's medicine
19:40 XSerpentX i personally would never risk it
19:40 zhanx well i might get a new shoulder soon
19:40 XSerpentX is this real?
19:40 zhanx guess the surgeon missed a few bullet fragments
19:40 zhanx yep
19:40 katsmeow-afk you mean shatter the connection to the bone? replace the entire bone
19:41 XSerpentX i didn't know this stuff happens commonly
19:41 zhanx replace the bone hasn't been done has it?
19:41 XSerpentX biology is like the other side of the world for me
19:41 XSerpentX i do follow stem cells tho
19:41 zhanx gang green in my shoulder now
19:41 XSerpentX u know they are creating hamburger from stem cells
19:41 katsmeow-afk replacing the ends has been, and replacing the shaft has been, but not in the same bone
19:41 XSerpentX they don't have to kill animals
19:42 XSerpentX kinda lame, use, but interesting
19:42 zhanx well i got a fake knee etc but they said if i break that i might not have a leg and all that fun stuff
19:42 XSerpentX i wish they would get to the good stuff, like clone my gf so i can have two girls and not be cheating
19:42 katsmeow-afk muscle from stem cells != hamburger from stem cells , specially not since they used petri dishes, not a burger factory
19:43 XSerpentX kat did u read what i just wrote about cloning my gf?
19:43 XSerpentX that is funny right
19:43 XSerpentX well..at least i think so, i tease my gf about doing that
19:43 katsmeow-afk no
19:44 XSerpentX ya..none of the girls think that is funny for some reason
19:44 iR0b0t1 My team finished 7th at the Kansas City FIRST regional :3
19:44 katsmeow-afk hence, gay pirates
19:45 iR0b0t1 Although we think we might go on to Nationals, due to a bad ref call.
19:45 katsmeow-afk congrats, iR0b0t1
19:45 zhanx my gf thinks i should be on the real fear show
19:45 zhanx since i eat bugs in the house
19:45 XSerpentX oh...wierd
19:45 zhanx iR0b0t1: awesome job man
19:45 XSerpentX u should be on "My freaky habbits"
19:45 iR0b0t1 Bugs eating your food? Eat them, they've been stealing your nutrients!
19:46 zhanx see iR0b0t1 gets it
19:46 XSerpentX i guess, that makes sence
19:46 zhanx sense
19:47 iR0b0t1 See the dust bowl wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they had just eaten the damn locusts.
19:47 iR0b0t1 By killing and dumping them they wasted so much food :(
19:47 zhanx she said if i can eat her cooking i can eat anything
19:47 iR0b0t1 sounds like a keeper :|
19:48 zhanx i cook around here
19:48 zhanx she burns the food
19:48 XSerpentX ya
19:49 XSerpentX i'm hungery
19:50 zhanx for 50 thousand i will use a fork on worms
19:51 XSerpentX i bet u tribes in afrika eat worms, etc just normally
19:51 zhanx yep and they taste good
19:52 zhanx i have eaten rotten raccoon before
19:52 XSerpentX yeah, it's odd some of the things north american culture has put on us
19:52 zhanx i was starving so that helped
19:52 XSerpentX was this just for fun, or u needed to
19:52 XSerpentX to survive
19:52 XSerpentX on a mission or something
19:52 zhanx mission
19:52 XSerpentX ok
19:52 XSerpentX that's acceptable then
19:52 zhanx this show is easy
19:53 XSerpentX once my uncle shot a raccoon
19:53 XSerpentX and it had 2 babies
19:53 XSerpentX so he brought them home, and we raised them
19:53 XSerpentX they are pretty cool
19:53 XSerpentX like little ninjas
19:53 zhanx crazy i would eat them
19:53 XSerpentX ahh they were just babies
19:53 zhanx so
19:54 XSerpentX ..u guys have grocery stores where u live right?
19:54 tsmeow-afk ate rattles
19:55 XSerpentX zhanx, i would not let u babysit my kids if i had any
19:55 XSerpentX just a lil FYI
19:55 katsmeow-afk do your kids lok like racoons?
19:55 zhanx rattlesnake is good
19:56 XSerpentX never had..
19:56 zhanx in chili its awesome
19:57 XSerpentX i'm pretty reserved when it comes to trying new things
19:57 XSerpentX that are gross
19:57 XSerpentX rattlesnake i would try tho
19:57 zhanx my gf is fill out my my app i guess without my input
19:57 zhanx gator is awesome also
19:57 XSerpentX i'll have to try some when i'm in texas
19:58 zhanx try crawfish
20:01 erpentX hunting for food.. with girlfriend in kit
20:03 zhanx eat pine cones
20:03 zhanx good and tasty
20:03 katsmeow-afk pine nuts, yeas
20:04 zhanx i eat the full thing thanks but i am me
20:04 katsmeow-afk and the new white growth of new pine needles
20:04 zhanx the white stuff is good also
20:04 katsmeow-afk ditto cattail roots
20:05 zhanx oh stew them with catfish is awesome
20:05 tsmeow-afk makes a
20:05 XSerpentX wow u guys are making me feel like a snottball
20:06 XSerpentX i don't know what has happened to me in the last couple years
20:06 XSerpentX i'm turning into a rich snob
20:08 XSerpentX well i'm genna go play some NHL ttyl
20:08 katsmeow-afk have funs
20:09 zhanx kats glad you changed your nick back
20:10 zhanx so 40 computers
20:10 katsmeow my water pumps came in, but it was 48F outside and really windy, so i did nothing with them
20:10 zhanx really 40
20:11 katsmeow 80F yesterday
20:11 zhanx jealous
20:11 katsmeow i really didn't wanna push my back after wrenching it so badly in early Feb
20:11 zhanx true
20:12 katsmeow it's a permanent injury, i can only make it less painful, i cannot fix it
20:12 zhanx sucks
20:12 zhanx brb
20:13 katsmeow anyhow, rain to roof to raintanks to leaf filter to pump to particulate filter to carbon filter to sinks to greywater tanks to toilet flush
20:13 katsmeow all the water gets used at least twice
20:14 katsmeow one clean pump, one grey pump, under $100 for both pumps total
20:15 zhanx dude finally got here with the flowers i order for delivery at 10
20:15 zhanx wtf
20:16 katsmeow 10pm, made it!
20:16 zhanx it was 10 am
20:16 zhanx :(
20:16 katsmeow oh, oops
20:16 katsmeow gf ok with it?
20:16 zhanx yea
20:16 zhanx well i never said anything on it
20:16 zhanx so i am a win now
20:17 katsmeow :-)
20:17 zhanx 12 hours late
20:17 zhanx i was gonna go and get a refund tomorrow etc
20:17 zhanx she said i got 20 minutes and have to go
20:17 katsmeow evening isn't a bad time to get unexpected flowers
20:19 zhanx nope
20:19 zhanx i told her i thought you needed flowers cause you had a rough week and it would help make it better
20:21 katsmeow while the thought counts, just fyi, i realise how impractical cut flowers are and how fast they die and are gone forever, and their cost
20:21 tsmeow likes live plants be
20:21 zhanx i know
20:22 zhanx but like you you said its the thought etc
20:22 katsmeow :-)
20:22 zhanx either way i was a win today
20:22 tsmeow nods and pats zhanx on the
20:22 zhanx ok kats later mentor i needs to go
20:22 katsmeow be safe
20:22 zhanx see you tomorrow on here
20:22 katsmeow yeas
20:23 zhanx night
22:13 katsmeow "With $1,200 in materials and 140 hours of labor, the company claims it can create a robot that produces 5 gallons of biodiesel per day without the use of chemicals, using only power from the wind and the sun."
22:15 katsmeow "The first test system sank under the furious assault of a male swan caught up in the heat of mating season rivalries."
22:24 katsmeow damnit, that land in Fla would be ideal for this, making ~5 gallons of biofuel a day
22:48 rue_house wow I missed a lot of conversation today
22:48 rue_house too much to go read now
22:54 katsmeow http://www.kurzweilai.net/evi-trumps-siri-for-general-knowledge