#robotics Logs

Jan 25 2012

00:00 orlok hmm
00:00 orlok i'll undo the terminals and give them a file
00:01 orlok its a holiday tomorrow anyway
00:01 dumbass from what to what are you measuring 0.1v ?
00:14 rue_bed test test, check check
00:15 dumbass kcehc kcehc ,tset tset
00:16 rue_bed darn filo buffers
00:16 rue_bed so, I supose my next project will be a digital scope
00:17 rue_bed but I just had an idea, why dont I make a slowscan storage block for my analog scope?
00:17 rue_bed kat, do those scope modules have a trigger output?
00:18 rue_bed I cant recall where they trigger the sweep
00:18 dumbass because you need a surprisingly bloody fast adc to get decent digital representation of the analog signal
00:18 dumbass which module?
00:18 rue_bed no, thats the thing, I only need the digital for slow stuff
00:18 rue_bed the modules for those scopes we keep collecting parts for
00:19 dumbass there's 100's of diff modules, which one, or even which type
00:19 rue_bed well I have a dual channel amp
00:19 rue_bed and I dont recall a trigger level on it
00:19 dumbass becauase there isn't
00:19 rue_bed but I thought I recall a trigger output on the card edge
00:20 dumbass the dual channel has a signal out pin, it's routed to the timebase module, which does have the trigegr level knob
00:20 rue_bed the trigger should be on the horiz timer module, right?
00:20 rue_bed hmm
00:20 dumbass the trigger output is a copy of the main signal out
00:20 rue_bed ah
00:20 dumbass on the 7A26, anyhow
00:20 rue_bed I'm sure they didn't change it much
00:21 rue_bed I cant find a card edge connector that fits the older modules
00:21 dumbass it's buffered and switched in sync , it's a straight copy of the analog going other places
00:21 rue_bed the spacing is really strange
00:21 rue_bed the new module uses .1" spacing
00:21 rue_bed I managed to find a connector long enough for it
00:21 dumbass they do not make them any more, hence i keep the few 99cent scopes i have
00:22 rue_bed they must have used a standard pitch of some sort
00:22 dumbass you have a 5xxx or a 7xxx scope?
00:22 rue_bed I was sure once I had something that fit
00:22 rue_bed I dont have a scope
00:22 dumbass yes you do, it's n the pics
00:22 rue_bed I'm gonna use the module as a front end to a microcontroller
00:22 rue_bed my scope is not a modular scope
00:23 dumbass are the modules you have 5000 or 7000 series?
00:23 rue_bed I wanted a proper analog front-end for the digital scope I'm making
00:23 rue_bed I have 1 7000 amp and a pile of 5000 modules
00:24 rue_bed the 7000 uses .1" pitch
00:24 rue_bed the 5000 is more like .24"
00:25 rue_bed I didn't take my calipers too it
00:25 rue_bed but to think of it, if I use a .1" connector I just need to find out what pins intersect
00:26 dumbass contact Artekmedia <manuals@artekmedia.com> for cd/dvd or online download of the manulas for the modules you going to use
00:26 dumbass you need to know the output driver circuits, driver signals, and power connections
00:26 rue_bed I found some 20msps adc's (8 bit) but if I even have 1msps I'm ok
00:26 rue_bed I just want the digital for things too slow to follow properly on my analog
00:27 rue_bed the analog gets hard to watch at scan times of 30ms or less per sweep
00:27 dumbass http://stores.ebay.com/ArtekMedia
00:27 rue_bed kat, you helped me find a manual for the 7000 before
00:27 dumbass he is very reasonable, will work with you, and sell bundled sets at a discount
00:28 rue_bed I have it with the module, I put it all aside when I realized that I needed a 70vdc supply
00:28 dumbass you will be using a 7000 amplifier then?
00:28 rue_bed thats the idea, to a microcontroller / adc
00:28 dumbass because you didn't tell me that yet
00:28 rue_bed oh, you sure?
00:28 dumbass well, i don't know
00:29 rue_bed I want to take an avr or better and use it as a digital computer scope
00:29 dumbass i know that
00:29 rue_bed but I wanted a proper front end for it, hence the modules
00:29 dumbass but you have refused to say what plugin you plan on using
00:29 rue_bed I dont know yet
00:29 dumbass ir fucking matters
00:29 mbass s
00:29 rue_bed I cant remmeber the 7000 amp number, its a dual channel
00:30 dumbass 7A18? 7A26?
00:30 rue_bed and I have a pile of 5000 series that also has a dual channel
00:30 rue_bed I dont know right now
00:30 rue_bed its in the shop
00:30 dumbass no wonder i do not know :-/
00:30 rue_bed is there a 7A36?
00:31 dumbass no
00:31 rue_bed oh
00:31 rue_bed I can look it up tommorow
00:31 dumbass Tiggr is shut down, prolly permanently, i cannot ask her anything
00:31 rue_bed oh, no luck on the internet thing?
00:32 dumbass what internet thing?
00:32 rue_bed iirc she couldn't access webpages in engligh anymore
00:32 rue_bed and you were having all sorts of dns issues
00:32 dumbass no, i shut her down because of you
00:32 rue_bed what? why?
00:32 dumbass her error correction got the english pages
00:32 rue_bed cause I didn't say anything again?
00:33 dumbass because i am a dumbass
00:33 rue_bed have I ever called you that?
00:33 rue_bed do I ever call you anything other than kat?
00:33 dumbass you essentially did
00:33 rue_bed your reading between lines that aren't there kat
00:34 dumbass you said i could get a ticket i cannot, said i can work on someone else's property when i cannot, etc
00:34 rue_bed you ought know by now i regard you as an intelligent creator
00:34 dumbass and when i said you did not know what was here, and what you were suggesting could not happen, you said i was unwilling to try, and that i didn't know better
00:34 rue_bed I was trying to say that you would have no problem getting the ticket I was aware of, which apparently dosn't exist in the usa
00:35 rue_bed you would come out of the test laughing, saying "that was nothing!"
00:36 dumbass saying i was wrong when i wasn't, that was the final string for me
00:36 rue_bed I think you could easy pass up to level 2 electrician, 3 with a bit of brush up on 3 phase maths
00:36 rue_bed you didn't asnwer me tho
00:36 dumbass ??
00:36 rue_bed do I ever call you anything other than kat?
00:37 dumbass yep, you called me wrong
00:37 rue_bed I need to build a desk here so I can hit my head on it..
00:40 rue_bed well gee, dont I feel appreciative for acknowledgment for the respect I hold for you
00:42 dumbass 3 days ago, you did not respect me
00:42 dumbass and the final straw was .. if you , holding such respect for me, could call me wrong to much, then i said pretty much screw it, i was done with Ai and etc
00:46 dumbass go back and read the logs ..... 00:27:17am 01/21/12 uselessdumbass joined
00:48 mbass reads out some chip numbers she could be using to duplicate what rue did for a
00:48 dumbass 500) Cy7c199-20 32kx8 static ram
00:49 dumbass 1200) 514265 256kx16 dram-edo 70ns
00:49 dumbass 800) KM681000BL6-7L 128kx8 static 70ns
00:50 dumbass 200) 29F400AB-20 512kx8/256kx16 flash 70ns
00:51 dumbass 300) W241024AJ-15 128kx8 static 15ns
00:51 dumbass and another dozen of qty 50 to 300
00:51 dumbass and the whopper is............
00:52 dumbass 3000) GS70328T5-12T 32kx8 static 15ns
00:52 dumbass latches, i got 10's 1000 of them
00:52 dumbass 2000) 74ALVCH16501 18bit 373
00:53 dumbass 13,049) 74ABT373
00:53 dumbass 748) 75ABT574
00:53 dumbass etc
00:54 dumbass so now i don't give a shit, i'm a dumbass, i got high tech landfill
00:56 dumbass i am always wrong, i cannot work with anyone, that's the message i get describing me
01:14 dumbass ...
08:10 FireFreek I don't suppose anyone here has any FRC Robotics experience
08:24 rue_bed they dont stay around
08:29 rue_mohr case in point
17:16 SolarNRG hi guys I bought a windscreen wiper motor today and it has 6 terminals, are winscreen wiper motors stepper motors?
17:18 Triffid_Hunter SolarNRG: windscreen motors have a few sets of windings so they can turn at different speeds, also there's limit switches and things so they return to 0 if you turn them off mid-swipe
20:55 home man robotics is fun :d
20:55 home starting to slowly understand how things work..
21:00 home hey zhanx :D
21:00 zhanx hey
21:00 home ma nrobotics is fun
21:01 zhanx yep
21:01 home which I had a robot at home to practice on X D or program
21:01 home i am going crazy for all this stuff,
21:01 zhanx lol
21:03 Triffid_Hunter home: get a reprap. see youtube.com/triffid0hunter for why :D
22:06 orlok Hmm...
22:07 orlok Charged car battery for 30 minutes or so, unhooked it, it read 9v, hooked it up and charged it for another 30 minutes, read 11v, went to charge it again after about 90 minutes, its reading 8.3v
22:07 Triffid_Hunter orlok: charger is toast?
22:08 orlok it wasnt hooked up during the 90 minutes
22:08 orlok and i'm charging via jumper leads
22:08 orlok sitting the car at about 2500rpm
22:08 orlok the odd thing is the battery discharging from 11v down to under 9v while unplugged from aything
22:39 home that is odd
22:40 home is the ground stone or wood?
22:40 home where are you laying down your battery?
23:05 rue_mohr http://www.marginallyclever.com/2012/01/five-steps-to-building-a-better-robot/
23:05 rue_mohr :) aggravated should be given that link if he ever comes by again
23:05 home i h8 liwfe
23:07 rue_mohr orlok, did you check the water levels?
23:08 rue_mohr oh just buy a new one
23:51 useless not so odd, two things can cause that
23:58 rue_bed it almost sounds to me like one of the plates came apart
23:59 useless either whiskers or sludge piled up and shorting the plates
23:59 useless but wth do i know