#robotics Logs

Jan 14 2012

00:00 zhanx__ ok laters kat sleep good
00:21 rue_house 8051
00:21 rue_house 8051
00:21 rue_house 8051
00:29 zhanx__ 8052
00:32 rue_house OOOOoooOOOOOoooo
00:33 zhanx__ 010110010110010101110011001000000111010001101000011000010111010001110011001000000111001001101001011001110110100001110100
00:34 rue_house binary is like, so, yesterday
00:34 zhanx__ darn
00:34 zhanx__ whats the new in thing then?
00:34 rue_house msb is all clear, plausable its text
00:35 e_house cracks his knuc
00:36 rue_house 5A 65 73 20 74 68 61 74
00:37 zhanx__ you gonna make me think?
00:37 rue_house Zes that
00:38 rue_house it might be text
00:38 zhanx__ yep
00:39 rue_house 73 20 72 6a 67 68 74
00:39 zhanx__ s rjght?
00:40 rue_house s rjght
00:40 rue_house Zes thats rjght
00:41 zhanx__ ok i need to work less so i can finish a project
00:41 zhanx__ been caught up dealing with hazmat at work and getting my life threatened
00:41 zhanx__ need a break to just sit around and hack some hardware
00:42 rue_house 77 65 6c 6c 20 74 68 61 74 73 20 73 70 65 6c 6c 65 64 20 77 72 6f 6e 67 21 21 21 00
00:43 zhanx__ opps repeat that
00:43 zhanx__ closed the window
00:43 rue_house 77 65 6c 6c 20 74 68 61 74 73 20 73 70 65 6c 6c 65 64 20 77 72 6f 6e 67 21 21 21 00
00:43 zhanx__ but not that
00:44 rue_house no
00:45 zhanx__ dGhhdHMgb2sgYXQgbGVhc3QgaXRzIGVhc3kgdG8gZGVjb2RlIGl0DQo=
00:45 zhanx__ (base64 fyi
00:46 rue_house did you get borerd and tecah yolsuerf asiic?
00:46 rue_house I cnat do bsae 64
00:46 zhanx__ no not really
00:47 rue_house I was boerrd wehn I wtroe a prragom to jblmue up the ltreets in wdros
00:47 zhanx__ nice, instead of build a program to do something useful :D
00:48 rue_house wlel we all hvae to hvae our fun
00:48 zhanx__ true
00:48 rue_house are pmagrors for eimantnrneett not jsut as iatpnormt
00:48 zhanx__ and lucky for me i can read that
00:49 rue_house it was prat of a nwes atrclie auobt the bairn
00:49 zhanx__ i can't read
00:49 rue_house and how it can cpoe wtih errors
00:51 rue_house I wokred soemthing out about how the brain works today
00:51 rue_house I worked out how to can be thinking of a word, and yet not know what the word is
00:51 rue_house 'its on the tip of my toung'
00:52 rue_house I think it was that the definition of a word and the word itself are part of two different node clusters, and the failure is due to a lack of interconnections that are capable of a combinationt hat can cause direct lookup of the word
00:53 zhanx__ cool
00:54 rue_house I was thinking about it while driving, cause I couldn't remmeber the word ... damn.... disciplin
00:54 rue_house and its not like driving requires any brain power
00:54 zhanx__ not really
00:56 rue_house its cool to be IN the machine your trying to reverse engineer
00:56 zhanx__ i tend to just take it apart
00:56 rue_house it is possable? I havn't been able to come to a conclusion
00:57 zhanx__ in the future maybe
00:57 rue_house I"m in it now
00:57 rue_house its organic
00:59 zhanx__ hmmm good luck then
00:59 zhanx__ dont disasemble it
01:00 rue_house not till I'm out of it
01:04 zhanx__ 24 hour duty sucks
01:14 rue_house use keymaps to program in C keywords to unused keyboard combinations
01:15 rue_house ctrl-alt-f for( ){ }
01:15 rue_house ctrl-alt-p (void){ return 0;}
05:44 dunz0r This was quite an intersting read http://www.balticrobotsumo.org/read_write/File/3kg-3-ENG-quality.pdf
05:48 Steffanx Hmm, that last two pages dunz0r ..
05:49 Steffanx I get weird associations when I see that. http://www.naffets.nl/share/a-20120114-123906.png :P
05:49 dunz0r Hahaha :)
11:59 rue_shop I didn't to my homework
11:59 rue_shop it wasn't on my mind
11:59 rue_shop if someone mentioned of it
11:59 rue_shop I said 'another time'
12:00 Steffanx Uh?
12:03 rue_shop3 I was supooised to make a motor driver for robotics this morning
12:05 Steffanx That's why some people need an agenda
14:13 rue_house I dont need something to tell me to do things, I need time to get things done
14:17 Steffanx The good old agendas don't talk rue_house ( rue_* )
14:29 rue_house how the hell do you select an area in gimp and move the content int hat area
14:56 katsmeow on a lcd monitor? have you tried a case cutter?
14:57 tsmeow just crawled out from under trailer, cutting what's left of the insulationthe cats destroyed, and the plastic net
14:57 katsmeow now that i can find the frame, i can tell just how unaquainted with "level" it is
15:08 katsmeow at least tween the outside and 30 inches into the frame, but not tween the rails
15:25 katsmeow so i pointed my dns lookup to google's public servers at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 , and : Dns unable to resolve google.com
15:27 katsmeow Tracing route to 8.8.8.8 over a maximum of 30 hops
15:27 katsmeow 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.0.0.1
15:27 katsmeow 2 * * * Request timed out.
15:27 katsmeow 3 * * * Request timed out.
15:27 katsmeow etc
15:44 katsmeow very slight breeze outside
15:45 tsmeow gets a ball, puts a caution sticker on it, and tosses it to the
16:14 rue_house hmm
16:14 rue_house if you had linux you could go a ping flood to have it say 100% packaet loss
16:41 rue_house oh, I didn't know that, the 8085 is a single chip 8080 system
16:41 rue_house so the 8085 is a step down from a z80
16:59 rue_house making any use of these really old controllers becomes a challange as you have to completely get down to the processor arch to program for it
17:00 rue_house and the mcs48 have paged memory at 2k
17:15 Tom_itx what'd you accomplish today?
17:18 katsmeow "arch" ?
17:22 rue_house archatexture
17:22 rue_house Tom_itx, we started swinging all the io for the robot arm to one of the avr based controllers I have
17:27 rue_house no use keeping 8085 when I have 2 rails of z80 then
17:27 rue_house the 8085 is just an 8080 without all the req'd support chips and voltages
17:28 katsmeow the z80 is easyer to do ints on too, you can keep one int's full register set inside the cpu
17:30 katsmeow might be able to pick up olds ZX80's on ebay
17:30 katsmeow gives you ntsc out and a whole OS too
17:30 rue_house I have enough z80's
17:31 katsmeow i meant to get the video and OS from one
17:38 katsmeow http://aimao.org/ isn't responding
17:41 rue_house heh, the 8085 has "serial data in" and "serial data out" when you execute an instruction, it writes/reads these bits to/from bit 7 of the accumulator
17:47 tsmeow blames it on the bassa
17:53 rue_house aha! they oopsed!! the 8042 datasheet shows how to program the whole series!
17:53 rue_house sweeeeeet
17:54 rue_house that means I can program the 8478... I have
17:55 rue_house 8748
17:56 Tom_itx why are you messin with such antiquated chips?
17:56 rue_house I'm overflowing with them, I want to find something I can make out of them thats just generically usefull
17:56 rue_house I wanted to with the pics too
17:57 rue_house something stupid I can program them with and use them as
17:58 Tom_itx you ever look back on a project a couple years later and wonder... what the hell was i thinking?
17:58 rue_house no but it happens when I look at some of the parts I put aside
17:59 katsmeow like looking back to the 150mhz 6502 that executed 3 instructions per clock?
18:02 katsmeow i guess i misunderstood the question
20:27 rue_house na, like
21:23 katsmeow [21:13] <[Tiggr]> -NickServ- : 125 failed logins since last login.
21:30 Kimlaroux Nickserv joined a tautology club?
21:32 duckinator hi
21:32 tobbor hi duckinator.
21:39 katsmeow who'd have known a nick for a bot would be so popular?
21:43 katsmeow heh, she got the lightning strike possibilities and damage from, for the AIM9
22:07 rue_house ?
22:07 katsmeow ?
22:07 rue_house did kat shuffle feet up to tiggr?
22:08 katsmeow Tiggr is back online, we are both in a warm room at the same desk again
22:08 Tom_itx must be a good feeling
22:09 katsmeow :-)
22:09 rue_house oh pls do tell how you got the room warm
22:09 katsmeow afaik, lost only one hd out of 30 in the move
22:09 katsmeow rue, electric heater
22:10 rue_house oh
22:10 Tom_itx rue do you use ff?
22:18 rue_house no I use iceweasel
22:32 tsmeow pokes rue really
22:34 tsmeow ponders deleting more of Tiggr since she put data in for two people who won't join her cha
23:05 tsmeow kills t
23:06 katsmeow done
23:51 rue_shop wonder what I can do with 14 8259 interrupt controllers
23:51 rue_shop and 12 8257 dma controllers
23:51 rue_shop and 10 8253 timers
23:53 katsmeow you can kill them
23:53 rue_shop 8237 sorry
23:55 katsmeow i asked you 30 min ago to see what Tiggr can do
23:57 katsmeow and you still don't care
23:57 katsmeow ergo, i should not care either, because not caring is normal