#robotics Logs

Oct 30 2011

00:04 Tom_itx ok i think it may be set
00:04 Tom_itx how to compile now...
00:08 zhanx build all clean, then run, it makes it compile
00:09 Tom_itx within eclipse?
00:09 zhanx um no, with the moon being in front of the sun, and the earth aligned
00:10 Tom_itx alot of menu stuff isn't active
00:10 Tom_itx i have the main.c file open
00:10 Tom_itx including the build all one
00:14 zhanx John is currently drinking, I cannot assist you.
00:15 zhanx PM him for the rest of the stuff you want to know so he can get you tomorrow
00:16 Tom_itx it can wait
00:16 Tom_itx do you change the workspace for the different projects or just put them under it?
00:18 zhanx JJ said different project
00:18 zhanx use the template he gave you as defualt, and make a new project off of it
00:19 Tom_itx even for the examples?
00:19 zhanx the build enviroment is right but the compiling might be wrong based on your machine
00:19 zhanx no examples you should compile
00:23 atom1 An internal error occurred during: "C/C++ Indexer".
00:23 atom1 org.eclipse.cdt.cross.arm.gnu.linux.IsToolChainSupported.isSupported(Lorg/eclipse/cdt/managedbuilder/core/IToolChain;Lorg/osgi/framework/Version;Ljava/lang/String;)Z
00:24 zhanx tomorrow JJ will find out your tool chain path and redo the master template IOT compile
00:25 zhanx its a linker error, and easy to solve but not in his drunken current state. ....we need an adult
00:25 Tom_itx mkay
00:25 Tom_itx gnite
00:25 zhanx JJ is currently kissing a Beaner
01:39 rue_mohr rue we need to feed you
01:40 rue_mohr but, I dont want to eat?
01:40 rue_mohr your need to eat now for later
01:40 rue_mohr hu?
01:40 rue_mohr if you dont eat now, eating later wont get rid of your hunger
01:40 rue_mohr oh
01:40 rue_mohr so?
01:40 rue_mohr I dont want to eat
01:41 rue_mohr simply impossable
01:41 rue_mohr hu?
01:41 rue_mohr your simply impossable
01:41 rue_mohr go make some food already
01:41 rue_mohr what do you wnat me to make
01:41 rue_mohr I dont eat, how the hell should I know
01:42 rue_mohr well, telling me to just go make food isn't really helpfull
01:42 rue_mohr we made a list
01:43 rue_mohr if your so eager to have me make food, make a robot to tell me what to make
01:43 rue_mohr I'm cold
01:43 rue_mohr put a rug on the floor
01:43 rue_mohr mmm
01:43 rue_mohr will you cut it for me?
01:44 rue_mohr suppose you want me to try to make you some food while I'm at it
01:44 rue_mohr sure
01:44 rue_mohr no, no that wasn't an offer
01:44 rue_mohr nono, get to it
01:44 rue_mohr but...
01:44 rue_mohr cmon...
01:44 rue_mohr but...
01:44 rue_mohr git to it
01:44 rue_mohr I...
01:44 rue_mohr you offered
01:44 rue_mohr no... I.... ugh...
01:44 rue_mohr you know if you dont I wont
01:45 rue_mohr I DONT EVEN EAT, THIS ISN'T FAIR
01:45 rue_mohr I'll wait here
01:46 rue_mohr ):] want me to cook? ok FINE.
01:46 rue_mohr (:/
01:46 rue_mohr oh I'll cook you somehting...
01:46 e_mohr wonders if he should be wor
01:53 RyanS I think you should be worried you've been talking to yourself for the last six minutes :)
01:59 rue_mohr or should we be worried nobody else has said anything in the pas 6
01:59 rue_mohr t
01:59 rue_mohr heh, always making up for my lost letters?
01:59 rue_mohr someone has to do it
01:59 RyanS Either is possible
01:59 rue_mohr you fixed that shift key good
02:02 shimi hi rue...
02:41 rue_shop I would suggest these valves are touchy, but if I can do position control of a solinoid, I'm not gonna imagine I cant do this
02:47 rue_mohr YES it works!
02:48 rue_mohr I can use buttons, open loop, to move the muscle in and out at a controlled speed!
02:50 hackkitten yay :)
03:08 rue_mohr I'll post youtube vid
03:28 rue_mohr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7rxZD09rcc
03:33 rue_mohr ????
04:07 rue_mohr dont youtube playlists automatically play thru?
04:10 rue_mohr ah, they do if you start with the first one
04:27 rue_mohr theBear, your not asleep right?
04:27 rue_mohr 10pm?
04:30 rue_mohr I need to be carefull or my progress on the mecha is gonna get too far ahead of the control system
08:09 Tobias| https://www.technologyreview.com/energy/38866/?mod=chthumb
08:16 coppermine anyone know where I can buy a 4inch diameter wheel that fits a 6mm motor shaft directly?
08:16 coppermine or without a mounting hub
08:40 theBear rue_mohr, i been sick in bed all week
08:40 theBear including all yesterday and today bar a short break in the middle
08:41 theBear just read the old "diy h bomb" document on yer site... haven't seen that thing since before i was a teenager <grin> scary to think that back then i saw the deficiencies in the process and worked out how to make one that would definately work.... this time round i also see the humour :)
08:42 theBear think it's been slightly updated to suit differing us businesses that now hold various grades of uranium vs what was around in the 80's tho....
09:53 theos :/
11:49 rue_bed theBear, yea, thats why I posted it, I couldn't find an old copy
11:49 rue_bed it comes from the olde internet
11:49 rue_bed the internet before commercialization
11:49 rue_bed the internet back in the ftpsearch days
11:50 rue_bed when ANY file was public
11:50 Tom_itx rue_bed can you take a quick look at avr
11:50 Tom_itx fedora compiler problem
11:50 rue_bed hmm
14:22 rue_mohr ok
14:23 Tom_itx get everybody fixed?
14:23 mumptai why is this channel publicly logged?
14:23 rue_mohr too much of a mess for me to strighten out
14:24 Tom_itx so the public can see what happens here
14:24 rue_mohr mumptai, cause its nice to jump into the channel and see whats been going on, or look back a year at how a problem was solved
14:24 rue_mohr and I am gonna write an ai that will be able ot read it all and answer questions its seen the answers to
14:25 rue_mohr you can look back on everything ever done here in the last 6 years or so
14:25 mumptai so i better leave
14:25 rue_mohr why?
14:26 rue_mohr are you afraid of soemting?
14:26 mumptai yeah, logging for future use
14:26 Tom_itx it has been for quite a while, freenode just asked us to mention it
14:26 rue_mohr were you gonna use this channel to oranize a plane hijacking?
14:27 rue_mohr or the bombing of a major building?
14:27 Tom_itx that's only 2 that have complained
14:27 rue_mohr did he leave?
14:27 rue_mohr huh
14:27 rue_mohr I suppose he is a terrorist, oh well
14:28 rue_mohr zhanx, ! go get him!
14:28 rue_mohr go on, git that terrorist, go get him! get him good!
14:29 rue_mohr well, it also makes it really easy to take sessions helping people and make howto's out of it
14:32 rue_mohr Tom_itx, did you see the video last night of the controlled bi-directional movement of the airmuscle?
14:33 Tom_itx no
14:33 rue_mohr damn
14:33 rue_mohr it the crowning achivement so far
14:35 zhanx link
14:35 zhanx go get who
14:36 rue_mohr hold up alrelady I got distracted by a crumby video of someone elses air-muscle
14:36 zhanx ok
14:36 Tom_itx sober up?
14:37 rue_mohr hey... whwere is it...
14:37 Tom_itx too much beaner salad last night?
14:37 rue_mohr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7rxZD09rcc
14:37 rue_mohr heh, kept scrolling past it
14:38 zhanx lol
14:38 zhanx yea ben was sitting at my desk, no telling what he said
14:38 zhanx rue your hand looks deformed
14:39 Tom_itx safety gloves??
14:39 zhanx i know right, rue is being safe
14:40 Tom_itx never know what a balloon can do to ya
14:41 zhanx throw a surprise party and have clowns over?
14:41 Tom_itx lemme finish shuffling some papers and i'll try to finish this arm setup
14:41 Tom_itx wanna fix up the make for me?
14:42 zhanx ok let me get my place cleaned back up and find my laptop
14:42 Tom_itx those pink panties not yours ehh?
14:42 zhanx hope not
14:43 zhanx my gf had to work last night i might be a bit of trouble if they were
14:43 Tom_itx good she can't read the log
14:44 zhanx why what ben type
14:45 Tom_itx blame it on ben!
14:45 zhanx never mind i see it
14:45 zhanx wonder if dave knows that
14:46 zhanx ok bbl
14:46 Tom_itx k
14:52 rue_mohr so hopefully I can have servo control soon
14:52 Tom_itx start collecting printer linear encoder strips
14:52 Tom_itx and you can have pid
14:52 rue_mohr no, I use a pot at the point
14:52 rue_mohr this is canada, we use pot!
14:54 rue_mohr lots of people seem to have potentiomiters hooked to their air-muscle joints, but I dont see anyone with servo action
15:21 Tom_itx ok ready to get down to bidness here..
15:21 m_itx looks for his sidekick z
15:26 shimi n
15:36 john8 hola
15:38 rue_mohr hi
15:38 tobbor Hello rue_mohr
15:40 john8 i have a fucking quadrocopter programmed to enter every house in the world using sollar energy and can make really really hard noises using a tiny really hard speakers
15:40 john8 thats my atomic bomb
15:40 john8 and i think about connecting it to the internet
15:40 john8 so all of the world will be equal
15:41 john8 what do u say ppl?
15:42 john8 lets connect tinny atomic nanotechnology bombs
15:42 john8 to every thing :0
15:43 john8 lets connect the water pie of china to a helicopter carrying little bob to the internet
15:43 john8 pipe
15:43 john8 so everyone wil be equal
15:45 john8 lets connect a tree to a model who needs to get dressed and put on her dress some mini whith nanotechnology atomic bombs
15:46 john8 and send her to do what she wants
15:46 john8 shen deda sheetzi
15:47 john8 ssomeone?
15:47 john8 u dead ppl?
15:47 Tom_itx yes
15:47 john8 hey tom'
15:48 john8 u arose from the deads?
15:48 Tom_itx no
15:48 john8 kidding
15:48 john8 so how is it going tom?
15:49 Tom_itx horrible
15:49 john8 do u in favor of connecting atomic bomb to the internet tom?
15:49 Tom_itx no we don't condone that here
15:49 john8 why horrible take life easy man
15:50 Tom_itx not the reply you expected?
15:50 john8 whats here man? r u in the miniature world of cha?t
15:51 john8 everyone can do it without asking us evertime and everywhere
15:51 john8 so increase your thinking range mate
15:51 john8 we r now in a chat
15:51 Tom_itx you sound line an aussie
15:52 john8 but miliards of ppl thinking many thinks and doing many things art this second'
15:52 john8 no im not an asssuie
15:52 john8 but for u i will be like one with beer as usual
15:53 john8 i have friends from aussie most of them r girls
15:54 john8 who miss somthing
15:54 john8 they miss the A-bomb
15:54 john8 tom how old r u?
15:55 Tom_itx 187
15:55 john8 r u affraid of making atomic bomb? just a question'
15:55 john8 187 is good'
15:55 Tom_itx why did you join robotics?
15:55 john8 im657
15:56 john8 just to show u the "power" of robotics this day
15:56 Tom_itx or to be a troll?
15:56 john8 also
15:56 john8 trolll or ball
15:56 john8 lol
15:57 john8 anyway thing that in the sae second that u got outside u can be hostage of someone that can pass beside u a the same moment
15:57 john8 and need money or just got crazy'
15:58 john8 u will dont know ever 100% what a human stand in front of u is plan to u'
15:59 john8 use your robotics skills and build a mini cellular heli that can activate the russian tsar bomba
16:00 john8 and if u want link it the internet and also tp pet lol
16:01 john8 r u affraid of somthing tom?
16:02 john8 get your weapon before its will be to late
16:03 john8 tom think that while u r travel to somewhere u can be in jail for stuoid things'
16:04 john8 sldo if uu kill someone with your car by mistake its can be by mistake'
16:04 john8 maybe u looked for a moment on the radio-just exxample
16:05 john8 thats why u need robotics and a-bombs in a case that u did somthing by mistake and all of the wordd is after u
16:07 john8 tom
16:07 john8 ?
16:07 john8 here or die>?
16:07 Tom_itx i'm ignoring you since you are a troll
16:08 john8
16:09 -!- john8 was kicked from #robotics by Tom_itx!~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812 [john8]
16:45 rue_mohr ... wtf happened?
16:46 Tom_itx this must be noob day in avr
16:54 coppermine using calculators for DC motors I realized if you use 4WD vs 2WD the loads get cut in half
16:54 coppermine each motor takes 1/4 of the total weight
17:15 Tom_itx zhanx where the hell did you go?
17:17 zhanx ummm
17:17 zhanx sorry
17:18 Tom_itx np
17:18 Tom_itx i'm gettin worn out anyway helpin noobs
17:18 zhanx people came over etc
17:18 zhanx its cold outside so people will be over more etc
17:30 zhanx and Tom_itx by the way language? wow
18:07 Tom_itx harsh?
18:09 KonguPanda Hello people :)
18:09 KonguPanda happy Halloween :)
18:13 KonguPanda I bought like a hand drill to make some improvement to my robot
18:17 Tom_itx sry z, was kidding but reading back it doesn't appear so
18:18 zhanx tis ok tom i was messing with you never saw that language before
18:19 Tom_itx been on 'tech support' all afternoon so i'm a bit frazzled
18:19 zhanx i figured as much
18:19 zhanx and then a jackoff comes in etc
18:19 zhanx hence your mod'd up
18:24 Tom_itx rue_mohr you'd better get busy
18:24 Tom_itx http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/misc/pumkin.jpg
18:25 Tom_itx zhanx i'm really in no hurry with it
18:25 Tom_itx i may fiddle with it a bit this evening later
18:25 zhanx good cause its a bit hard to do both right now
18:25 zhanx entertaining is a pita
18:25 Tom_itx heh
18:26 Tom_itx what do i need on the windows end?
18:26 Tom_itx for downloading
18:29 zhanx stlink software its on the st site
18:29 Tom_itx ok
18:30 Tom_itx not in the zip?
18:30 zhanx nope
18:30 Tom_itx i'll get it
18:31 zhanx http://www.st.com/internet/evalboard/product/219866.jsp <- somewhere around there
18:35 Tom_itx you need their board?
18:36 zhanx nope just software its built in to the board for us
18:36 zhanx that second uC is the programmer
18:38 Tom_itx ok
18:57 rue_mohr Tom_itx, haloween is tommorow nigh
18:57 rue_mohr t
19:02 Tom_itx but are you ready?
19:02 rue_mohr no
19:02 rue_mohr I got candy today
19:03 rue_mohr lots and lots of candy
19:09 Tom_itx my favorite kind?
19:10 rue_mohr duh, my fav
19:10 Tom_itx ahh hoping for no goblins?
19:11 rue_mohr in 3 years there has been an integer number of less than 1 show up
20:38 Tom_itx zhanx, all i could find was the iar dev package
21:32 rue_mohr interactive avian recorder
21:32 rue_mohr aka PARROT
21:34 Tom_itx do you use git or svn?
22:24 rue_mohr --> rue is going to his shop now <--
22:26 rue_shop I'm over here now
22:48 zhanx crapola
22:48 zhanx broke my bed
22:48 Tom_itx z
22:49 zhanx soorry
22:49 Tom_itx what are the references to g++ in the makefile for?
22:49 zhanx g++ arm
22:49 Tom_itx i don't have that installed
22:49 zhanx g++ arm...
22:49 Tom_itx anyway.. i'm headin to sleep
22:50 zhanx sudo apt-get install g++-arm-linux-gnueabi
22:50 Tom_itx is IAR what you use in windows to download?
22:50 Tom_itx i thought i had all the c++ stuff set up i needed
22:50 zhanx well i did think you had the basics
22:50 zhanx i was wrong
22:51 Tom_itx no, this was from the livecd install for emc
22:51 Tom_itx basic
22:51 zhanx k
22:51 Tom_itx i'll mess with it another day
22:51 zhanx k, tomorrow then
22:52 Tom_itx what were you using to download in windows?
22:52 Tom_itx all i could find was IAR
22:52 Tom_itx which looks like a whole dev package
22:53 zhanx the stm32 link utility
22:54 zhanx keil uvision etc
22:54 zhanx let me find el file
22:58 zhanx ok i will be back after i change i just had hot and sour soup spilled in my lap