#robotics | Logs for 2011-10-21

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[00:00:03] <aggrav8d> you translate it's radius from the planet.
[00:00:08] <rue_mohr> then I rotate that by the angle of the moon rel to the planet
[00:00:11] <TransX2> ZORK?
[00:00:27] <rue_mohr> then I create the planet
[00:00:49] <rue_mohr> then I rotate them both for the rotation of the planet
[00:01:08] <rue_mohr> then I translate them the planets radius from the sun
[00:01:22] <rue_mohr> then I rotate them for the planets position around the sun
[00:01:29] <aggrav8d> rue, the last 10 things you've said have all been incomprehensible smashings of technical terms. I still don't know what the fuck this example is suppose to illustrate.
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[00:01:53] <rue_mohr> as you can see, by the time I'm that far, the moons rotations are just part of what gets rolled into the mix
[00:02:21] <rue_mohr> aggrav8d, how I compound build relative positions in the way I do kinematics
[00:02:26] <aggrav8d> sorry, but you dragged me out of bed like you were going to solve my problem, then pretend you're surprised i'm online, then ask me a ton of questions because you don't know what the hell my code does. I'm sorry, but I have to go to bed, I have an important meeting tomorrow.
[00:02:30] <rue_mohr> aggrav8d, have you ever used povray?
[00:02:59] <rue_mohr> oh sorry, didn't know you were in bed, gee
[00:03:12] <aggrav8d> I'll be happy to take all the time in the world after my meet tomorrow to try and untangle what I'm doing. I bet you'll spot it in two seconds, then.
[00:03:13] <rue_mohr> maybe we can catch tommorow and work on it
[00:03:20] <aggrav8d> sorry if i'm being a dick, i gotta go.
[00:03:25] <rue_mohr> gnight
[00:03:30] <aggrav8d> gnight
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[00:03:51] <TransX2> Can you help me?
[00:03:59] <rue_mohr> what do you want to know
[00:05:12] <TransX2> I wanna know what i need to know if i want to start a career in programming?
[00:05:31] <rue_mohr> TransX2, the first thing you need to know is if your a programmer
[00:05:44] <rue_mohr> some people aren't, and it dosn't matter how much they try, their not.
[00:06:19] <rue_mohr> TransX2, tell me a break up of the task of planting a tree.
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[00:07:15] <TransX2> Well, i mean, is programming allot of math, is it easy to get a job, what about software programming?
[00:07:54] <TransX2> I learned about logical thinking and all that.
[00:07:57] <rue_mohr> programming is just modeling in computer language of whatever the computer is to do
[00:08:12] <rue_mohr> if your doing math stuff you need to be familiar with the math your using
[00:08:17] <TransX2> I took a basic class about programming in java
[00:08:29] <rue_mohr> if your operating machenery, you have to know how the machenery works
[00:08:35] <rue_mohr> TransX2, tell me a break up of the task of planting a tree.
[00:09:17] <TransX2> First you till the soil, then dig a hole then place the seed in the ground. Lol
[00:09:34] <TransX2> If seed grows,
[00:09:36] <rue_mohr> this is important cause its soemthing you do in programming
[00:09:45] <rue_mohr> no, you didn't cover the seed
[00:09:50] <rue_mohr> or water it
[00:10:04] <rue_mohr> and trees are usualy not grown direct from seed
[00:10:08] <TransX2> System.out.println("Yay!");
[00:10:48] <rue_mohr> you need to be good at breaking down tasks and building up a process of graduated operations to perform the task
[00:11:10] <TransX2> Well, i didn't know all the steps, the point was to do it in logical order, right?
[00:12:11] <rue_mohr> lets try again, give me a breakdown of the process of feeding a pet
[00:14:36] <TransX2> Locate the food, open bag, pick up bowl, place on table, pick up bag of food, tilt, pour into dog bowl, place bag down, pick up bowl, set on ground for dog, close bag up, put bay away.
[00:15:10] <TransX2> *pour food out of bag into dog bowl
[00:15:25] <TransX2> How was that?
[00:19:20] <rue_bed> ok
[00:20:09] <rue_bed> so, tell me how the dependencies of these operations work, aka, what do you need to be sure works to be sure something else has a chance at success?
[00:25:16] <rue_bed> do you want to use another process example?
[00:30:55] <rue_bed> TransX2,
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[03:42:06] <Tom_itx> tom-log
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[09:13:26] <rue_mohr> aggrav8ed is making his math WAAAAAY more horrible than it needs to be
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[10:57:36] <KongfuPanda> Hello Tom_itx
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[12:54:23] <KongfuPanda> {@.@}
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[14:50:17] <amee2k> whats the minimum thickness for mild steel sheet metal to make stick welding a viable option?
[14:53:12] <amee2k> i've got some metal cases 0.5mm thick, but brazing doesn't cut it. i don't have an oxyfuel torch and my butane torch is too weak
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[17:15:40] <KongfuPanda> so what's news today?
[17:17:11] <Steffann> You don't want to know
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[17:17:56] <Tom_itx> i found the one bad apple
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[17:19:32] <Steffann> You found my macbook pro?
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[17:19:56] <Tom_itx> nope
[17:20:08] <Steffann> Hmm, then there are more bad apple
[17:20:09] <Steffann> s
[17:22:40] <Tom_itx> i should take the server down and clean it but it's been rather active so i'll wait a while
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[17:53:06] <KongfuPanda> Tom_itx, how many visits do you get per day?
[17:59:33] <Tom_itx> i meant all the join/part here
[18:01:09] <KongfuPanda> I see
[18:01:58] <Tom_itx> it's an obscure server
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[18:25:57] <TransX2> Hey rue, i just wanted to say thanks about talking to me about programming last night. Sorry, i fell asleep. Lol
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[18:38:53] <DammitCoetzee> oo, my arm came in
[18:39:10] <Tom_itx> ##stm32
[18:39:22] <DammitCoetzee> yup
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[18:40:01] <DammitCoetzee> woah, that's a lot of pins
[18:41:25] <Tom_itx> read the sheet, some won't drive an led
[18:42:18] <DammitCoetzee> it's got an accelerometer too? man, i thought it was just the chip and a usb thingy
[18:43:08] <Tom_itx> x y
[18:43:34] <DammitCoetzee> oh man, this is super cool
[18:44:27] <DammitCoetzee> guess it's time to see what the dev environment is like
[18:44:52] <Tom_itx> i haven't opened it yet
[18:45:40] <DammitCoetzee> urgh, I forgot, I have to reinstall windows... maybe I'll just read the docs for now
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[18:55:47] <Steffann> Read the license too DammitCoetzee :P
[18:57:48] <DammitCoetzee> hah, man, they are really afraid someone is gonna put a dev board inside something
[19:00:11] <DammitCoetzee> i guess they are afraid it's gonna catch fire... better unplug it while i'm out
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[20:11:57] <eTag_> any one home?
[20:12:10] <rue_mohr> oh yea
[20:12:24] <rue_mohr> we dont say anything if you dont ask a quiestion
[20:12:31] <eTag_> so....i'm building a bot...wondering how probable it is
[20:12:47] <eTag_> i want to use a desktop cpu,ram and hd
[20:12:56] <rue_mohr> dont use the case
[20:12:56] <eTag_> ide style hd
[20:13:01] <rue_mohr> !assist robots/mowerbot/
[20:13:01] <tobbor> Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/mowerbot/
[20:13:10] <eTag_> but build it on my own motherbaord
[20:13:58] <eTag_> if i designed my own motherboard for this would i need a special bios to boot?
[20:14:27] <rue_mohr> eTag_, to date, how many motherboards have you made?
[20:14:34] <eTag_> a couple
[20:14:43] <rue_mohr> tell us a little about them
[20:14:45] <eTag_> but none that i programmer after
[20:15:18] <eTag_> my first wass a mini mico process for a smallish bot...
[20:15:58] <eTag_> then i made an attempt at a desktop with dual processor but it was never completely finished...
[20:20:03] <eTag_> so what about the bios?
[20:20:21] <eTag_> or could i run it off an existing motherboard?
[20:21:08] <Tom_itx> itx
[20:21:17] <Tom_itx> atom
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[21:16:04] <rue_mohr> !assist robots/mowerbot/
[21:16:04] <tobbor> Possibly http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/robots/mowerbot/
[21:16:12] <rue_mohr> did you see that link eta...
[21:16:18] <rue_mohr> eT...
[21:16:22] <rue_mohr> &(*^&^$^%)^^&%#$%^
[21:16:54] <Tom_itx> not quick enough again ehh?
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