#linuxcnc Logs
Jan 22 2025
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:54 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:30 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram@> hello
01:44 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@> the different types of VCP drive me crazy
01:46 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@> gladevcp pyvcp qtpyvcp qtvcp
02:39 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@> https://github.com/multigcs/riocore/tree/dev/riocore/configs/demo
04:16 AM Tom_L: morning
04:29 AM Tom_L: https://www.cnccookbook.com/ultimate-benchtop-cnc-mini-mill-part-7-spindle-drawbar-and-toolchanger/#powered-drawbars
06:25 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
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07:59 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko@> ccatlett1984@: im looking for someone, who has working ethercat setup with servo motors with incremental encoders and successfully configured index homing (most likely using servo internal homing procedure)
08:05 AM JT-Cave: the forum is your best bet for that
08:05 AM * Deejay just installed his new tool length probe. works like a charm. about three thousands of an mm repeatability
08:06 AM lcnc-relay: <zincboy_ca_on@> Make sure you warm up your spindle 🙂
08:53 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram@> zmrdko@: very interesting for me too, let me know if you open a post
09:32 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko@> vibram@: Actually I already did
09:33 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko@> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/54937-delta-b3-index-homing
09:33 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko@> But I did not get rodw’s attention
09:37 AM JT-Shop: I've never seen rod on here and he lives down under
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram@> this is why i remember your profile picture
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram@> i already looked at your post
10:29 AM lcnc-relay: <schoch_@> fuck winter
10:51 AM roycroft: i'm growing weary of winter myself
10:51 AM roycroft: it's almost spring though!
11:41 AM unterhausen: somebody put something bad in their garbage and they had to dump the truck in someone's driveway
11:41 AM unterhausen: I always feel guilty when that happens
11:45 AM roycroft: what?
11:45 AM roycroft: i've never heard of that
11:45 AM roycroft: what kind of stuff do folks put in the garbage to cause that?
12:04 PM Rab: Never seen that...the idea of a garbage truck unloading in my driveway poses an unprecedented maniac terror, I think I'd sell my house.
12:05 PM xxcoder: what just dump at random house?
12:05 PM xxcoder: sounds like lawsuit lan
12:05 PM xxcoder: land
12:05 PM Rab: Maybe a strong smell of propane?
12:06 PM Rab: Excessive blood?
12:07 PM Rab: Cries for help?
12:09 PM roycroft: if it was something really dangerous i should imagine they would dump it as soon as they discovered it
12:10 PM roycroft: but yeah, dumping on private property is an invitation to a lawsuit
12:10 PM roycroft: dumping on public right of way is probably safer
12:11 PM Rab: I don't exactly understand the mechanism of discovery. Waste gets hidden and compacted pretty quickly. If the operator can still see it, there's usually still time to fish it out.
12:11 PM Tom_L: most of em don't leave their cab unless they have to
12:11 PM Tom_L: automated arms
12:12 PM Rab: To dump the whole truck there would have to be signs like smoke or other vapor, something leaking from the truck, etc.
12:13 PM roycroft: yeah, smoke or really nasty fumes
12:14 PM roycroft: where i live now the refuse company do not provide bins, and they do not have lift arms on their truck
12:14 PM Rab: We have various kinds of both automated and human-assisted trucks here, I think recycling is the latter. Probably so they can spot undesirable materials. I've had oil jugs and other forbidden items left in the can.
12:14 PM roycroft: so the operator has to manually dump the customer provide bins
12:15 PM roycroft: i don't understand how they recycle here
12:15 PM roycroft: mondays and tuesdays are recycle days, and the same truck that picks up the garbage on wednesday-friday picks up recycling
12:16 PM roycroft: everything - glass, plastic, paper/cardboard gets dumped in the same compartment
12:16 PM roycroft: when i lived in eugene they had special trucks for recycling and kept things segregated
12:16 PM roycroft: both places haul the recycling to the same facility
12:17 PM roycroft: it seems to me that trying to separate pieces of paper from tiny sharp pieces of glass would be problematic
12:17 PM Rab: We have single-stream recycling here as well, and supposedly it's sorted by hand on the other end. Must be a huge and inefficient operation. But it might be the only way to cope with plastic bags which foul the machines, etc.
12:17 PM lcnc-relay: <schoch_@> it is pretend recycling
12:17 PM roycroft: actually here they do recycle
12:18 PM xxcoder: yep
12:18 PM roycroft: i know some places do pretend recycling, where it's a different truck but it still goes to the landfill
12:18 PM roycroft: but we take recycling pretty seriously in oregon, and recycling operations are monitored closely
12:19 PM roycroft: oregon passed the first bottle deposit bill back in the early '70s, and has been a national leader in recycling programs ever since
12:19 PM xxcoder: wa state is pretty good also
12:20 PM roycroft: yes, the whole west coast is
12:30 PM rdtsc-w: M
12:31 PM rdtsc-w: "Midwest" seems to be good around here. Been up to CleanTech in Michigan a few times, huge recycling plant. They have machines that do a lot of the separation, but humans are definitely involved.
12:31 PM roycroft: oh lord
12:31 PM roycroft: i just got an email from the nonprofit association of oregon
12:32 PM rdtsc-w: Smells like spoiled milk everywhere... always rinse those out before recycling lol
12:32 PM roycroft: their first legal take on the anti-dei executive order indicates that the order is broad enough that any federal funds may be withheld to any non-profit that has a dei program
12:33 PM roycroft: they are hastily putting together a seminar to address this
12:33 PM roycroft: i guess the country fair may need to rename its dei program to something else
12:34 PM roycroft: we don't normally get much grant money from the feds, but we did get a nice shuttered venue grant during the pandemic
12:35 PM roycroft: we're hoping to get some grant money to address the emerald ash borer infestation
12:36 PM roycroft: about 3/4 of our trees are oregon ash trees, and they will all die when the ash borer arrives, which could be as soon as this year
12:43 PM xxcoder: hope its granted
12:43 PM roycroft: the grants are not available yet, but we have a good chance of getting one
12:43 PM xxcoder: wa state is dealing with same thing I think. and that after that killer wasp finally wiped out
12:44 PM roycroft: the state forestry department has been deploying traps in the pdx area to help detect the ash borer
12:44 PM roycroft: we have the only traps outside that area and the only traps not installed and managed by the state
12:45 PM roycroft: the fair arborist is in pretty tight with the state forestry folks
12:45 PM roycroft: and since our land has one of the highest concentrations of ash trees in the area we're a logical place to put up the traps and do the monitoring
12:46 PM roycroft: plus, sadly, we're also the most likely place to be infested first in the area, due to the nature of our event - folks driving in from all over the state and the country
12:46 PM roycroft: the ash borer spreads about 10 miles/year naturally, but cars help them along quite a bit
12:47 PM roycroft: they are tiny and almost indetectable on a car, and hitch in radiators and wheel wells and the like
12:48 PM roycroft: there has even been talk about pressure washing every car before it enters the property, but with 7000+ cars coming in on the days of the event, that's not practical
01:13 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
02:02 PM xxcoder: nice clickspring clips video today
02:57 PM rdtsc-w: yeah the emerald ash borer devoured the midwest. we'd planted a nice ash tree in the back yard around 1995... then we had to cut it down - wasn't even fully grown yet
03:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lots of people around here burned for years on the amount of ash tree's that were destroyed..
03:07 PM roycroft: it destroys almost all ash trees wherever it goes
03:07 PM roycroft: it's even worse than dutch elm disease
03:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> oh - and all the elm a while ago..
03:26 PM roycroft: the problem here with ash trees is that there really aren't any good replacements for them
03:27 PM roycroft: we have a river running through our property, and ash trees are the best native riparian trees
03:28 PM roycroft: they like getting their roots wet and staying web/submerged, while the other trees that would otherwise be good for us - maple and oak species, primarily, and some hawthorne as well - do not bode well in riparian environments
03:31 PM roycroft: so i have a question for the folks here are are experienced mechanics or similar
03:31 PM roycroft: the torque spec for my brake bracket is 166 ft*lbs
03:32 PM roycroft: my big torque wrench only goes up to 144 ft*lbs, and i torqued them to that
03:32 PM roycroft: there is not room to add a multiplier extension to the torque wrench
03:32 PM roycroft: so what do i do?
03:32 PM roycroft: is 144 likely going to be good enough?
03:32 PM roycroft: do i put an impact wrench on them and hammer on them for a few seconds to be sure?
03:32 PM Tom_L: i'd call it good
03:33 PM roycroft: do i take the vehicle somewhere that has a torque wrench rated to 166 ft*lbs?
03:33 PM Tom_L: just keep it under 200mph
03:33 PM Tom_L: if you're worried about it yes
03:33 PM roycroft: 144 ft*lbs is 90% of the spec
03:33 PM roycroft: i figured that was probably close enough
03:34 PM roycroft: it's not like if i only torque to 165 they're going to spin off the first time i hit the brakes hard
03:34 PM rdtsc-w: fine thread anyways, lots of clamping power with 90% the torque
03:36 PM xxcoder: well I would drive it for 100-200 miles and then try re-torque it, see if it got any looser
03:36 PM xxcoder: then again after a while later see if its all good. if good then stop worrying about it
03:37 PM roycroft: not fine thread
03:37 PM roycroft: it's coarse thread, but the bolts are big
03:37 PM roycroft: 12mm
03:38 PM * roycroft will not worry about it for now, and will work on getting the caliper cleaned up, new brake pads installed, and the caliper installed today
03:39 PM roycroft: i'll need to bleed the brakes, i suppose
03:39 PM roycroft: well, i don't suppose - i know
03:39 PM roycroft: but the one i'm replacing is the closest to the master cylinder, so i'll probably only have to bleed that one
03:39 PM xxcoder: remember that quote from car maker: "I design cars to go, not to stop"
03:39 PM roycroft: i hate using brakes
03:40 PM roycroft: using brakes is flushing money down the toilet
03:40 PM roycroft: i prefer to anticipate the speed i need to travel at and be at that speed when needed
03:40 PM roycroft: brakes are mostly for the final few seconds when i need to stop
03:41 PM roycroft: i irritate people a lot because of my driving habits
03:41 PM roycroft: i don't intend to, but the overwhelming majority of motorists do not drive efficiently
03:41 PM roycroft: when the speed limit is going to be reduced ahead, i decelerate and downshift so that i'm at the new posted speed when i get to the sign
03:41 PM bjorkint0sh: roycroft: how do you come to a stop?
03:42 PM xxcoder: pople keep forgetting that there is third option after brake and gas: neither.
03:42 PM xxcoder: bjorkint0sh: he lkiterally just discribed it ;)
03:42 PM roycroft: almost everyone else goes at their current speed, and slams on the brakes when they get to the sign
03:42 PM bjorkint0sh: i'm curious because I had to drive a forklift without brakes.
03:42 PM roycroft: yes, i did just describe it
03:42 PM roycroft: i said that i apply the brakes when coming to a final stop
03:42 PM bjorkint0sh: oh I see now.
03:43 PM bjorkint0sh: precision driving huh?
03:43 PM roycroft: but i reduce speed by decelerating and downshifting as much as possible
03:43 PM xxcoder: if I see im coming up to red light, I take foot off gas and let my car slow down, so I brake less
03:43 PM roycroft: it's efficient driving
03:43 PM roycroft: right
03:44 PM bjorkint0sh: I do that sometimes.
03:44 PM roycroft: my prius had regenerative braking, so i wasn't flushing all that momentum down the toilet whenever i stopped - most of it went back into the battery
03:44 PM bjorkint0sh: even in an automatic, it's not that hard.
03:44 PM xxcoder: my brakes last a LONG time. I had old car all brakes replaced, and it was still half life by 12 years later when it got totaled
03:44 PM roycroft: the other thing that is annoying about how most folks drive is that they accelerate very slowly from a stop
03:44 PM xxcoder: my current car still have everything orginal since I bought it in 2016. pads is still half life
03:45 PM roycroft: which is extremely inefficient and in a combustion vehicle creates a lot of pollution
03:45 PM roycroft: the efficient way to drive is to accerate as quickly as possible to one's desired speed, then engage the cruise control and stay at the same speed until it's time to slow down
03:45 PM rdtsc-w: so the 12mm has a pitch of 1.75mm? betting it's finer than that
03:46 PM rdtsc-w: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/4b/a2/014ba2e12f500e4ed276a0f48c185692.png
03:46 PM roycroft: it's pretty coarse - 1.5 or 1.75
03:46 PM xxcoder: me, I let go of brake, let car start moving for a second, then accerate to speed
03:46 PM roycroft: and i'm pretty sure it's 1.75
03:47 PM roycroft: i'm not going to remove one to measure, though - it was a lot of work getting them torqued down as well as i did
03:49 PM roycroft: a 1.75mm thread pitch is roughly 14tpi, and a 1/2" coarse thread bolt is 13tpi
03:49 PM roycroft: the bolts look close to 1/2"-13, so i would bet on 1.75mm
03:50 PM Tom_L: measure 10 threads with a caliper and you'll know pretty quick
03:53 PM roycroft: sure, if i wanted to remove one of the bolts
03:53 PM roycroft: and if i did that i'd just pull out a metric thread gage and know instantly
03:54 PM roycroft: no math required for that
04:01 PM roycroft: debugging configs for these phones is not fun
04:02 PM roycroft: disable device on phone switch; disable auto-provisioning server; reset phone to factory defaults; reboot phone; upload vpn config; reboot phone; enable vpn; reboot phone; enable auto-provisioning server; reboot phone; enable device on phone switch; reboot phone
04:02 PM roycroft: then i can see if the setting i changed worked
04:02 PM roycroft: if not, i get to repeat the above process
04:02 PM roycroft: it's about a 20 minute turn-around time
04:03 PM roycroft: and the phone gets a new ip address every time i reset it to factory and every time i change the vpn settings
04:13 PM rdtsc-w: "If I'd only known, I would've been a carpenter instead." Albert Einstein
04:19 PM xxcoder: https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/1i7jwpu/bricklayers_now_opensource_for_orcaslicer_and/
04:19 PM xxcoder: interesting. it shaggers the layer lines so fusion strength is much higher
04:22 PM roycroft: youtube is useless for now
04:22 PM roycroft: every other video is a hating on bambu labs video
04:22 PM roycroft: and the rest are all about the new president
04:23 PM Tom_L: you must have a limited playlist
04:23 PM xxcoder: interesting. well I usually dont click on recommanded so it doesnt matter to me. you can get rid of suggested channels though, go to homepage of youtube, theres menu each video "dont recommand this channel" or whatever
04:24 PM Tom_L: some time today someone should mention linuxcnc here
04:24 PM xxcoder: seems quiet today on lcnc subject
04:24 PM Tom_L: some noob might think he's in the wrong spot
04:25 PM bjorkint0sh: oh doubtful.
04:25 PM bjorkint0sh: how hard would it be to port lcnc to something other than linux?
04:25 PM xxcoder: depends on target os
04:26 PM xxcoder: beos type probably not too hard, besides kernel. mac and windows good luck
04:26 PM xxcoder: templeos good luck!
04:27 PM xxcoder: reactos, you probably can, since kernel is open source also, but its far from finished and lots work anyway
04:27 PM roycroft: i'm not sure why one would want to port it to another os
04:27 PM bjorkint0sh: roycroft: the standard reason.
04:27 PM xxcoder: me either
04:27 PM bjorkint0sh: "because".
04:28 PM roycroft: but then again, i don't understand why some folks try to run things other than linuxcnc on their linuxcnc machines
04:31 PM bjorkint0sh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOEcyYsiHc Simon Winchester | The Perfectionists: How Precision Engineers Created the Modern World
04:31 PM bjorkint0sh: https://www.amazon.com/Exactly-Precision-Engineers-Created-Modern/dp/0008241767
04:31 PM Rab: bjorkint0sh, Machinekit might be a starting point for that since the hardware stuff was already rewritten from scratch for the BeagleBone.
04:32 PM bjorkint0sh: Rab: ah I see.
04:32 PM bjorkint0sh: Rab: at the moment it's just a thought exercise, regarding how easily one can port the OS to *bsd or Plan9, for instance.
04:32 PM bjorkint0sh: not the OS, the kernel of lcnc.
04:33 PM Rab: Looks like the Machinekit repos were archived in 2020, so it seems to be good and defunct.
04:33 PM * Rab afk
04:35 PM roycroft: i think a plan9 port would be near impossible
04:35 PM roycroft: there's no rtk for that
04:35 PM xxcoder: oh machinekit died? wonder why
04:36 PM bjorkint0sh: real time kernel?
04:36 PM bjorkint0sh: I think it's possible.
04:37 PM bjorkint0sh: http://iwp9.org/2e/Real-time.pdf We describe our experience with the implementation and use of a hard-real-time scheduler for use in Plan 9 as an embedded operating system.
04:51 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> @Rab the archived repo is for the unifed machinekit
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> they split it into 2 repos, HAL and CNC, all HAL is there, and the other cnc related stuff is in CNC
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> its also a third repo to use linuxcnc gui with machinekit
04:53 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> but it is still actively used by pocketNC for their machine
04:56 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> it also looks like they use machinekit on tormach 6axis robots to connect it to ROS
05:06 PM bjorkint0sh: interesting.
06:02 PM Unterhaus_ is now known as unterhausen
06:03 PM unterhausen: @11F, it's colder in Celsius
06:04 PM unterhausen: nvr mind, it's still .6 degrees warmer in celsius
06:05 PM Tom_L: you should be in shorts then
06:05 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> um
06:05 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> and negative
06:05 PM Tom_L: thermometers are integer
06:05 PM Tom_L: :)
06:06 PM Tom_L: unsigned int
06:07 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> its only -11c at my house right now
06:07 PM unterhausen: yeah, it's colder in Celsius, I was right the first time
06:07 PM Tom_L: do the polar plunge
06:07 PM roycroft: it's colder in celcius until you get to -40
06:07 PM unterhausen: dogs would come in and then they were limping because their feet got cold
06:07 PM unterhausen: wouldn't
06:08 PM roycroft: well, it's not colder
06:08 PM roycroft: but the temperature is lower in celcius than in fahrenheit until you get to -40
06:08 PM unterhausen: I dunno, feels colder if it's negative
06:08 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> first one, then the other i like to say
06:08 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> yeah because it is cold
06:09 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> anything negative is cold
06:09 PM roycroft: it feels pretty hot when it's 30 degrees
06:09 PM unterhausen: it was -5F last night. I was surprised the hvac was still putting out heat
06:09 PM roycroft: -6c here last night
06:09 PM xxcoder: modern heat exchangers is quite good
06:09 PM roycroft: frosty cold
06:09 PM unterhausen: modern heat pumps are good, installers are not
06:10 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> how well do new car tv dashboards do in these temps?
06:10 PM roycroft: i'm convinced that hvac installers intentionally leave tiny leaks in the refrigerant lines
06:10 PM roycroft: in commercial units at least
06:10 PM roycroft: i have never worked out of a data center that did not need refrigerant service multiple times/year
06:11 PM * roycroft heads out to work on a brake caliper in his fairly cool, but not cold, shop
06:11 PM lcnc-relay: <thorhian@> I don’t know why you would have problems a car tv dashboard at only -5 ~-10 degrees.
06:12 PM rdtsc: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LCOdXmOhoUU
06:12 PM Tom_L: saw that the other day
06:12 PM xxcoder: interesting idea
06:13 PM Tom_L: he shouldn't be starting the hole with a drill anyway
06:13 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> like lcd stuff is wierd in the cold
06:13 PM xxcoder: yeah need center drill
06:13 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> my wierd 2012 nissan orange things did wierd in the cold
06:15 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> whats the runout on a laser
06:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> when I was a kid - my calculater watch stopped showing the display when I was sledding.. I kinda freaked out until I finally figured it was because of the cold..
06:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> i am having a great visual of that
06:21 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> sam, did the lathe crash when you were threading or was it a dry run>
06:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> ?
06:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (my name is sam)
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> sorry i just call you that in my head cos you have many alias
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> skunkworks8841@
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> That is ok - I just don't know what you are referencing..
06:27 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> you were doing threading test?
06:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - I don't think so. I don't know what you are talking about. (it has been a long day)
07:09 PM unterhausen: I learned to center my tailstock from tublecain, I'm not proud of it
07:10 PM unterhausen: I was watching lathe videos recently, and I now downvote everyone that faces their part but doesn't have the tool centered
07:10 PM unterhausen: I don't want to watch them face their part, but how hard is it to center their tool exactly?
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> big_kevin420@ hah https://linuxgizmos.com/unit-dualmcu-one-with-rp2040-for-real-time-and-esp32-for-wireless-connectivity/
07:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> rp2040 + esp32 on same board
07:33 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> $15
07:37 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> unterhausen: they use specially designed connectors that leak if over tightened or under-tightened
07:37 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> ever see an installer with a torque wrench?
07:38 PM roycroft: grr
07:38 PM roycroft: more drama
07:38 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> not even sure if they have ever heard of brazing let alone being capable of performing the process
07:39 PM roycroft: i got a visit from the local constabulary while attempting to work on the pickup
07:39 PM roycroft: i was accused of mail theft
07:39 PM roycroft: it was the person who claimed to have some kind of sales agreement for my house
07:39 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> of your own mail?
07:39 PM roycroft: it took a bit, but we got to the truth
07:40 PM roycroft: that i do not steal mail
07:41 PM rdtsc: yikes
07:42 PM xxcoder: geez. that is pretty wtf
07:42 PM rdtsc: going on 10 years here, and still get mail for three people whom no longer live here. I've written "not at this address" dozens of times, even had a laminated note on the mailbox for a year or two, before it withered away
07:43 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> well the polizei here pick the low hanging fruit first
07:44 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> "can you come into the station" means: we are too lazy to come and get you
07:45 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> they did drive to his location at least
07:45 PM roycroft: wtf was that?
07:46 PM * roycroft appears to have gotten kicked off the network and then auto-rejoined, but does not have any idea why
07:46 PM roycroft: at any rate, i had to show them the deed to the property and my id to prove that i live here and control the mailbox
07:46 PM xxcoder: ping timeout
07:47 PM roycroft: even though they already should have known that i own the property - that's something their dispatcher looks up ahead of time
07:47 PM roycroft: weird
07:47 PM roycroft: i saw no sign of latency
07:47 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> transparent from Discord
07:47 PM roycroft: it's all sorted, for now at least
07:47 PM xxcoder: if house you own now have been empty for a while, they might have been using it as drop box
07:47 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> now they have proof of where to find you
07:48 PM roycroft: and i got my brakes installed, but after that calamity it was too dark to do the brake bleeding
07:48 PM roycroft: xxcoder: i went through this when i first moved in
07:48 PM roycroft: i had a realtor hounding me about this alleged sales contract to the other person, which was never produced
07:48 PM roycroft: i got my realtor to cool the other realtor's jets
07:49 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> lots of house theft going on
07:49 PM rdtsc: optical collision on fiber backbone somewhere in Albuquerque? heh
07:49 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> house/property
07:50 PM roycroft: but from what i gather, this person used to rent the place, allegedly had some kind of verbal agreement (which they later claimed was a written agreement that has never been produced) to purchase it, stopped paying rent, got evicted, moved back in and squatted for a while until they got evicted again right before i bought the house
07:50 PM rdtsc: they say a deed is about worthless - best figure out something better
07:50 PM roycroft: the person is also related to some of my neighbors, and to the contract letter carrier who is responsible for delivering mail to my house
07:50 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> the friends and family plan
07:51 PM * rdtsc sighs wistfully...
07:51 PM roycroft: which would explain why, after i bought the place and moved in, i would continue to get mail for the evicted squatter, and would not get my own mail, even though i protested to the post office several times
07:51 PM roycroft: it took contacting my congressional rep's office to get that sorted - they basically called the local postmaster and said they must deliver my mail to me
07:52 PM roycroft: i thought all that was in the past until this crap today
07:52 PM rdtsc: if you don't kill 'em with kindness, it will just continue indefinitely
07:53 PM rdtsc: the neighbors and postal worker, that is
07:54 PM roycroft: i'm trying to be polite and friendly with all, and am approaching this as a problem that needs to be solved without blaming anybody for what happened to get to this point
07:54 PM roycroft: which is exactly how i feel - i just want the problem fixed, and i don't care how it came about in the first place
07:54 PM roycroft: i am NOT going to share my mailbox with some vagabond, though
07:55 PM roycroft: that is a non-starter
07:55 PM roycroft: if the neighbors and relatives care so much about this person they can rent a post office box for them
07:55 PM roycroft: or one of the neighbors can receive mail for them
07:56 PM roycroft: i suspect this isn't about mail at all though - i suspect the person thinks that by receiving mail here they can make some claim to ownership of the property
07:59 PM xxcoder: if thats the case, thats pretty heavy disconnect. I have lived at various apartments, and gotten mail there, but I never considered it as proof of partial ownership of apartment, let alone the entire complex
08:00 PM rdtsc: put a ring camera or something on the mailbox
08:00 PM xxcoder: I would put one inside mailbox also
08:01 PM xxcoder: just in case guy is camera wise and wears coverings
08:01 PM roycroft: the person has been evicted from this house twice, and yet maintains they have a valid sales contract for the house
08:01 PM roycroft: that's somewhat delusional
08:01 PM roycroft: and signs of being quite disconnected
08:01 PM rdtsc: did you tell this to the constable?
08:02 PM roycroft: yes, and they said they have no information about that
08:02 PM roycroft: in the end they seemed to believe me
08:02 PM roycroft: at least enough for them to leave for now
08:02 PM roycroft: without threatening me
08:02 PM rdtsc: get some video proof of your mailbox being tampered with - that's a federal offense
08:03 PM roycroft: yes, i know that
08:03 PM xxcoder: well more times that happens, the less likely cops will belive that guy and bother you
08:03 PM roycroft: it's a misdemeanor, but it's punishable by up to 10 years and a $10,000 fine
08:03 PM roycroft: a pretty expensive misdemeanor
08:03 PM roycroft: but i do plan on getting some video surveillance as i further build my home automation system
08:04 PM roycroft: the mailbox is on the street, well away from the house, but i think i can mount a camera that can monitor it
08:05 PM roycroft: and there's actually an advantage to that - the camera would be mounted fairly high up and far enough away from the mailbox that it probably won't be noticed, and if it is, it would be difficult to disable
08:05 PM roycroft: and it would have recorded plenty of activity leading up to any attempt to disable it
08:05 PM rdtsc: for the immediate need, tie a trail cam up there
08:05 PM roycroft: i'm not missing any mail
08:06 PM roycroft: i get very little mail delivered to the house as it is - i get most of my mail at my post office box
08:06 PM roycroft: i'm not worried about my mail being stolen
08:06 PM rdtsc: just to make sure no unauthorized fingers touch it
08:06 PM linext: i'm trying to run a lathe extremely slow: F1 G1 Z-0.5. It seems like F1 is the minimum no matter if it's less than 1
08:07 PM linext: is the minimum supposed to be 1 for feedrate?
08:07 PM roycroft: most of the mail that is delivered here is from satellite tv companies wanting me to buy their product and from jebus companies wanting to save my soul
08:07 PM roycroft: i'm not interested in either, so it's not a big deal
08:07 PM rdtsc: oooh a LCNC question :)
08:07 PM roycroft: but we have an on-topic question here now, so i'll bow out
08:07 PM xxcoder: dont know about minium feed, but surpised you need less than 1. 1 is quite slow as it is
08:08 PM linext: it takes about 30 seconds to reach Z-0.5
08:08 PM linext: i'm cutting stainless steel on a mini lathe
08:09 PM linext: ideally the cut would take about 100 seconds
08:09 PM roycroft: so you are trying to work harden it? :)
08:09 PM linext: if i run it in 30 seconds, it's going to be super loud
08:09 PM xxcoder: nah its in fixture, its already work hardened as soon as line looked at it
08:10 PM linext: i changed the steps per rev to 6400
08:11 PM xxcoder: I just read forum post, it dont seem to apply to g0 for olvious reasons but less than one should work
08:11 PM xxcoder: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/31230-minimum-feed-rate
08:13 PM linext: i used g1
08:13 PM xxcoder: yeah was pretty sure that was the case. not sure why it doesnt in your case, run below 1
08:15 PM unterhausen: we have a manifold in the attic that took a long time for the installers to finish. A very long time. They got help
08:15 PM unterhausen: I assume it's awful
08:16 PM rdtsc: looks like https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/32449-minimum-feed-rate a minimum feed rate can be added to the .ini
08:16 PM rdtsc: maybe 1.0 is assumed until specified
08:17 PM xxcoder: easy enough to test
08:41 PM xxcoder: well hope line issue was fixed