#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 12 2025

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:46 AM Deejay: moin
03:49 AM memleak: Deejay, get some sleep!
03:49 AM memleak: brb lol
03:56 AM memleak: back
03:57 AM memleak: i hate how starting a vpn messes up irc for 5 minutes so i gotta disconnect and reconnect each time..
03:58 AM memleak: i guess it's legal to pirate your own content to catch other pirates if you own the rights to the media, i.e. HBO
03:59 AM memleak: not that i pirate anything of course, as that's very bad and goes against my morals
04:44 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> after alot of ifs, buts etc
04:44 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> first cuts with mesa, linuxcnc and alu in the machine
04:44 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> sounds horrible but the result was quite nice πŸ™‚
04:54 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> surace feels pretty ok too, happy days!
05:07 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> * surface
05:07 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> sliiight chattering due to bad adhesion
07:29 AM lcnc-relay: <onceloved.cn@> Why can’t the forum be opened?
07:47 AM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
07:47 AM Unterhausen: your country may be blocking the forum since we are so revolutionary
07:47 AM lcnc-relay: <unterhausen@> how does a message show up through the relay on irc, but not here?
08:24 AM lcnc-relay: <onceloved.cn@> Unterhausen: It's fine now. Maybe it's a network problem.
08:26 AM Tom_L: Unterhausen, a disturbance in the force
09:41 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNwFNrF8OhM after some testing and tweaking πŸ™‚
09:42 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> pretty pleased now with how it sounds when cutting
09:42 AM Tom_L: you should somehow cover those ballscrews
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> i have an idea but I cant find bloddy 0.3-4mm PP sheets to fold
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> * bloody
09:43 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> might try simple walls
09:44 AM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/Machinery-Rubber-Flexible-Bellows-Diameter/dp/B0CGVCJLCG?gQT=1
09:46 AM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126019889527
09:46 AM Tom_L: flat ends
09:47 AM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@> I'm using the stuff without the flat ends, for the ball screw on the y axis of my desktop mill.
09:48 AM Tom_L: https://dynatect.com/product/telescopic-spring-guards/
09:49 AM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@> That's kind of cool, although I don't think I would have the clearance for that around the ball screw on my z-axis.
10:05 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> wanted to fold a bellow that covers both rail and screw
10:37 AM rdtsc: oddname_skane, could try 3D printing a set of stackable (split) sleeves out of PETG... sounds like a "devil is in the details" kind-of-project heheh
10:39 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> That would eat too much length πŸ™‚
10:40 AM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> But otherwise good idea
10:44 AM lcnc-relay: <andypugh@> The telescopic covers are the way to go for ballecrews, simple reliable and self-cleaning. But you have to make provision for them at the initial design stage.
10:46 AM rdtsc: How about a split-brush which clips on near the ballnut... maybe held on with magnets - remove and clean periodically
12:34 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:31 PM jpa-: oddname_skane@: even just a fixed wall will really help a lot
01:32 PM jpa-: if you make it out of thin sheet metal, you can bend the upper edge inwards to stop any chips that try to slide over it
01:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the emco compact 5 lathes just have a metal shield over it. (I agree though - a telescoping spring would be better
01:44 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/J98dg3cjravQQfpE6
01:44 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (ball screw not installed)
01:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> but - obviously that has to also be part of the design.. the ballscrew nut housing is shaped so that it tucks under the guard
01:46 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> I will find a solution πŸ™‚
01:46 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> meanwhile, is there list of commands one can connect in ini etc?
01:47 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> i have this plugin, arduino connector and want 2 custom buttons setup for cycle start and paus
01:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5bR64HqwDeLbPRD79
01:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that would be in hal.
01:49 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> yeah hal it was, sorry .D
01:49 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> * πŸ™‚
01:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> start here maybe https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/gui/halui.html
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> halui.program.run this should be cycle start?
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> looks like it
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> cool, then I understand πŸ™‚
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> you might have to be in program auto..
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> halui.mode.auto
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> but it has been a long time
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> (you probably have to make sure you are in auto for the program run pin to work)
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> yeah that I have to be
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> its extra safety πŸ™‚
01:54 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - some might argue that.. (this has been a discussion off an on for ages) why are there modes...
01:54 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> rather press a jog move by mistake rather then starting a cycle with running spindle etc πŸ™‚
02:05 PM xxcoder: good artian make video today
02:09 PM Tom_L: oddname_skane, i've got cycle start pause/resume on my pendant if you can sift thru the hal file
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> I could πŸ™‚
02:09 PM Tom_L: quite a bit going on with checks for things
02:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/configs/NEW_MILL/
02:10 PM Tom_L: most likely in my_jog.hal
02:10 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> yeah found it πŸ™‚ thanks
02:11 PM Tom_L: my_jog_A is the same with rotary added
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> aha
02:12 PM Tom_L: anything there _A is rotary
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> I really only need cycle start / pause on 2 buttons πŸ™‚
02:12 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> so first hal will most likely help me plenty
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> designing interfaces is pretty fun, might make a new controller in the futurer with a super slick touch interface and more physical buttons instead
02:13 PM Tom_L: most are initialized in the main file
02:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/pendant/new/Pendant2.jpg
02:14 PM Tom_L: for reference
02:14 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> ah
02:15 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> nice
02:16 PM Tom_L: you may need pullup/down resistors on the buttons
02:16 PM Tom_L: those are all inside the box
02:16 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> now you are way ahead of my in the future πŸ˜„
02:16 PM Tom_L: i don't recall what all needed it
02:16 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> * me
02:16 PM Tom_L: to hold the pin in a specific state
02:16 PM Tom_L: until the button is pushed
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> I see
02:18 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> in theory I dont really need a pendant, I can flip my controller round the corner so I have good acces when tinkering inside I noticed
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> a "manual use pendant-probe" would be nice, a nice unit with a touch-off zone and buttons for Z only
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <oddname_skane@> that could be usable
02:29 PM Tom_L: pendants are very nice to have
02:30 PM xxcoder: yep. I found that I missed em instantly when I was testing cnc router that didnt have em lol
02:34 PM Tom_L: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_70&product_id=116
02:34 PM Tom_L: then there's that
02:35 PM Tom_L: if you're using mesa cards..
04:05 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol.. I just got an email that I paid $42 to valve corp. I was wondering what hydraulic fittings that was. (took me a second that it was a game that my son wanted)
04:05 PM xxcoder: lol
04:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> my son was reading a bulldozer book my dad had. he was reading about the D11 catapillar - it is around 200klbs.. about 100 tons. I said - you know - the v2 version of starship could put that into low earth orbit.
04:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> Kinda puts things into perspecitve..
04:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> lol - he said - I don't think it would run in space... You are right sully - you are right.
04:22 PM R2D2 is now known as C3C5C8
04:51 PM roycroft: the d11 is a real beast
04:52 PM roycroft: and i bet you could make it run in space, but it would need a lot of mods
04:52 PM roycroft: not to mention a fairly substantial source of air
04:52 PM * roycroft wonders what there is to 'doze in space, though
04:53 PM xxcoder: just use it on moon or mars
04:53 PM roycroft: the rain we're not supposed to get today is here
04:53 PM xxcoder: yep mist rain here
04:53 PM roycroft: i got my axle shaft installed, but i did not get the hub installed
04:53 PM xxcoder: I had plans
04:53 PM roycroft: i'm working on other things now
04:53 PM roycroft: the hub should take an hour or so
04:53 PM roycroft: and the brakes another hour
04:54 PM roycroft: so i should have time after work tomorrow to get at least most of that done
04:54 PM roycroft: of course when the not-supposed-to-rain day has rain, one shouldn't bet on the next not-supposed-to-rain day to be that
04:55 PM xxcoder: if it rains tomorrow ill have to do it anyway
04:55 PM roycroft: as long as it's done by mid-week i'll have a chance to drive it around close to home to make sure everything is ok before heading down to the old shop this coming weekend
04:56 PM roycroft: if it continues to rain i'll set up the ez-up and do the job in the rain
04:56 PM roycroft: i'm trying to avoid that, because it's extra work and i don't want to do it
04:57 PM * roycroft heads to the back to finish the window casing
04:57 PM roycroft: it's all installed now - i just have to fill nail holes and caulk, then paint it
04:57 PM roycroft: and so far i'm really happy with it - if it looks good in paint it will be the model for the rest of my house
04:58 PM roycroft: the proportions are, i think, perfect
05:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> Nice!
05:46 PM rdtsc: D11 in space: unfortunately, metal stiction in vacuum is a concern too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pavp6dps6q0
05:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> oooh - i be
05:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> bet
05:51 PM Centurion_Dan1 is now known as Centurion_Dan
06:00 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> oil pickup probably isn't going to be very consistent either in low gravity.. Sully did say that the crawler would have to be modified...
06:01 PM xxcoder: lol it was part of plot in one of books, they had to adopt many parts of machines so theres plastic sleeves between any metal parts
06:01 PM xxcoder: moon dust is very nasty and abrastive
06:05 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> that too
06:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> it doesn't have erosion - so all the particles are sharp..
06:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@> the apollo missions found that out
06:12 PM roycroft: "one small step for *ouch* man. a giant leap for mankind *ouch ouch ouch*
06:17 PM xxcoder: tough men if they could walk barefooted on airless moon
07:54 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> big_kevin420@ https://www.olimex.com/Products/RaspberryPi/PICO/ start shipping this week
07:54 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> https://www.olimex.com/Products/RaspberryPi/PICO/PICO2-XXL/
07:56 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@> might be of interest https://linuxgizmos.com/cpico-rp2040-a-cost-effective-mcu-board-with-debugging-enhancements/
08:05 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> nice, i am working on my shitty universal breakout board , with swappable mcu
08:06 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> i can make one for the new rpi one
08:06 PM lcnc-relay: <big_kevin420@> the flexihal boys have designed a new pico board already, theres way more io than i expected
08:23 PM xxcoder: roycroft: I finally tried some of those roland sraracha. not too bad. quite sweet but also little bit spicer
08:23 PM xxcoder: ate it with airfried veggies
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <harpgreen@> guys i need helpπŸ₯² my linuxcnc received some integers from modbus (mb2hal), how can i transfer it to boolean, like 1 = true, 0 = false
09:49 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
10:11 PM Tom_L: harpgreen, possibly one of the conversion comps?
10:12 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man9/conv_u32_bit.9.html
11:04 PM memleak: wrapping up the gentoo image now, installer updates done :)
11:05 PM memleak: just updating the kernel to 6.12.9
11:05 PM memleak: it'll all be pushed tonight/morning
11:07 PM memleak: total network bandwidth required is going to be somewhere between 2 and 3GB
11:09 PM memleak: hopefully this works!
11:20 PM memleak: brb