#linuxcnc Logs

Dec 06 2024

01:36 AM Deejay: moin
04:47 AM Tom_L: morning
04:51 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:01 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:18 AM rmu: what's the matter? channel-flooding from "ignorant" discord/matrix posting (large-ish) code?
06:07 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/coordinates.html
06:21 AM JT-Cave: 18°F
06:40 AM Tom_L: 23F
06:41 AM Tom_L: another nice addition.
06:44 AM JT-Cave: thanks
06:44 AM JT-Cave: I'm calling an audible and not washing the car before going to the midway
07:29 AM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrzhUjcLTFs
07:47 AM Tom_L: is that lcnc?
07:55 AM rdtsc-wk: !logomatic
08:01 AM rdtsc-wk: Nice JT, you can have a QLineEdit for each axis
08:03 AM rdtsc-wk: was wondering about that the other day
08:03 AM JT-Cave: I was reading your mind...
08:04 AM rdtsc-wk: oh, do you have the million dollars in small unmarked bills on their way also? :)
08:05 AM JT-Cave: emailed them yesterday
08:05 AM rdtsc-wk: oh good, I'll need it... about to order over $500 in electrical parts soon.
08:05 AM JT-Cave: there is steam coming off the chicken water bowl
08:06 AM rdtsc-wk: do them fancy chickens have a heated bowl?
08:07 AM JT-Cave: yup
08:08 AM JT-Cave: I tested a lot of different options for water over the years and a dog bowl wins out
08:08 AM rdtsc-wk: nice, now you just need to get one of unterhausen's old robots to clean it :)
08:11 AM JT-Cave: with only 2 hens left it doesn't take long to clean up after them
08:12 AM JT-Cave: and today it will be poopsicles for sure
08:13 AM bjorkintosh: what happened to the other ones?
08:13 AM JT-Cave: they died
08:15 AM bjorkintosh: oh damn.
08:15 AM JT-Cave: it happens
10:35 AM skunkworks: lol.. I swear. Sometimes I wonder how I get anything to work. I use servers to keep an eye on the server room temp. I have a script on one of the servers that sends me a text when the proccessor temp goes about a threshold...
10:36 AM skunkworks: I moved this server to a different location in the plant - just in case..
10:36 AM skunkworks: so - I thought - I have the bash script - I will just copy it to an other server.
10:37 AM skunkworks: It would email me - but the text wouldn't work (it is just emailing to my number through verizon.
10:38 AM skunkworks: finally remember that verizon doesn't pass emails through unless there is a sender address (this is using sendmail and postfix..)
10:39 AM skunkworks: looking through bash history - I figure out that there must need to be a generic file with the mapping..
10:40 AM skunkworks: so - I add the generic file like the other server - add it to the main.cf - restart postfix.
10:40 AM skunkworks: nothing works.
10:40 AM skunkworks: remove the line from main.cf - works again..
10:41 AM skunkworks: finally figure out through a google search that you need to run 'postmap' ... that wasn't in my bash history.
10:41 AM skunkworks: linux is hard.
10:43 AM rdtsc-wk: I prefer the term 'quirky'
10:44 AM skunkworks: lol.. I mean - it is awesome. And I usually get there.. but sometimes the rabit holes are quite deep
10:45 AM rdtsc-wk: speaking of deep rabbit holes, just ran into an issue on the X1 Carbon where anything lower-temp than ABS wasn't sticking to the bed... come to find out, this can be caused by failed heatsink grease on the ceramic nozzle heater of all things
10:46 AM skunkworks: uh.. interesting. You have a ceramic nozzle?
10:47 AM rdtsc-wk: no it's SS but the heater is ceramic
10:47 AM skunkworks: was it just not getting to the temp that it should have been?
10:47 AM skunkworks: huh.. Have to put that in my back pocket..
10:47 AM skunkworks: (I have an x1 carbon)
10:48 AM rdtsc-wk: well the nozzle cycles temperatures several times before printing finally begins; thinking the last cool-down cycle causes the nozzle to shrink slightly, and it can't warm up fast enough before printing starts.
10:48 AM skunkworks: did you fix it?
10:49 AM skunkworks: the first layer on the x1 is amazing..
10:50 AM Tom_L: nice looking printer
10:50 AM skunkworks: it is amazing.
10:50 AM Tom_L: do you switch colors manually?
10:50 AM rdtsc-wk: when it works, which it has been great
10:50 AM rdtsc-wk: have a co-worker tearing into it now
10:51 AM rdtsc-wk: let him get all greasy :)
10:51 AM skunkworks: the only issue I have had is sometimes the cheap filiment breaks off in the ams
10:51 AM skunkworks: not had it happen with bambu filiment
10:51 AM rdtsc-wk: If you get the AMS thing on top Tom, it can switch colors automatically
10:52 AM skunkworks: I have not printed a multi-color print yet.
10:52 AM Tom_L: that's cool
10:52 AM Tom_L: is that like an ATC?
10:52 AM skunkworks: yes
10:52 AM rdtsc-wk: printed some drink coasters with customer logos on them, worked great
10:52 AM skunkworks: you waste a bit of filiment each time it changes colors..
10:53 AM skunkworks: rdtsc-wk: how many hours do you guys have on it?
10:53 AM rdtsc-wk: it has a purge 'chute' where these discarded bits go... affectionately termed the 'poop chute' by many lol
10:54 AM skunkworks: my kids call it robot poop
10:54 AM skunkworks: it is so fast.. (compared to my old printers)
10:54 AM rdtsc-wk: hmm is there an hour meter anywhere? well we got it about a year ago, and have went through probably a dozen spools of various materials
10:55 AM skunkworks: I have it on an oak desk and it rattles the desk as it prints
10:56 AM rdtsc-wk: just printed some 16mm motor shaft covers and some 9mm inserts to repair a Lenze drive cover (we're constantly printing small do-dads to fix something or another)
10:58 AM rdtsc-wk: If you ever print PC (very high-temp polycarbonate) be careful of the bed temperature - start bed temp off 20 degrees low - sticks to engineering plate hard and will leave permanent marks
12:10 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:27 PM skunkworks: rdtsc-wk: point taken. I have had only 1 thing not stick to the bed.. (small part on a table full of parts)
12:27 PM skunkworks: again. amazing
12:28 PM skunkworks: (although I got a whatever it is called bed for the ender and it is close to the same.
12:28 PM skunkworks: PEI I think
12:29 PM roycroft: i got a glass bed for my ender5, and i use a small amount of hair spray on it occasionally
12:29 PM skunkworks: I have had petg stick pretty hard to the plate
12:29 PM skunkworks: I have never tried glass. (I have one for the ender)
12:29 PM roycroft: i have no problems with parts sticking or not sticking - they seem to have just the right amount of stiction
12:30 PM roycroft: but i only use pla and petg
12:30 PM skunkworks: On the monoprice mini - I just use painters tape.
12:30 PM roycroft: when a part finishes printing, if i want to remove it right away i have to use a putty knife to remove it
12:31 PM roycroft: but if i wait until the bed cools it comes right off with just a small amount of hand pressure
12:31 PM roycroft: and btw, i found some unscented hair spray, so the room doesn't get all nasty when i use it
12:31 PM skunkworks: yah - the plate on both the ender and the bambu - you just start removing it and things pop off. It is nice
12:31 PM rdtsc-wk: Have the X1C hotend rebuilt and being tested - yup, heatsink grease was a crusty dry mess.
12:32 PM skunkworks: lol - I think I have some around here when I had a potato gun..
12:32 PM skunkworks: found out aqunet was the best.. Second ingredient was butane? I don't remember
12:33 PM skunkworks: rdtsc-wk: I hope to remember that
12:33 PM roycroft: yeah, i think the stuff i have is aquanet
12:34 PM roycroft: yes, that's what i have
12:35 PM * roycroft was lazy and checked a web images site instead of going out to the studio to look
12:35 PM rdtsc-wk: that's not being lazy, that's being efficient :)
12:35 PM roycroft: i know what the can looks like, but wasn't totally sure of the name
12:42 PM Guest25: hello there... I'm trying to get some info for a project, anyone in the New York area by any chance ?
12:43 PM roycroft: if you're talking about the new york city area, i think there are about 13 million people there
12:44 PM skunkworks: rim shot
12:46 PM Guest25: true, but I only care about one of the 82 on this forum.
12:55 PM rdtsc-wk: out of those 82, I think about 75 of them are ghosts, bots, or otherwise inactive. Do we have any regulars from NY? Dunno, Ohio here.
12:55 PM skunkworks: WI
12:56 PM Guest25: thanks, I just got to this forum, I live in the New York area.
12:58 PM rdtsc-wk: Nice. Some members here are retired or (like me - at work), so will pop in and out and may take awhile to respond
01:03 PM Guest25: As crazy as it sounds, I got here because I was doing some research on crawl space digging... I got a quote of 300K for a 1000 sq feet
01:04 PM skunkworks: so - your thinking a gantry machine? ;)
01:04 PM * roycroft is in oregon, about as far away as one can be from ny in the lower 48
01:04 PM Guest25: basically
01:04 PM Guest25: I giant CNC haha
01:05 PM skunkworks: neat! I think the software would be the easy part..
01:05 PM Guest25: agree,
01:05 PM Guest25: I would have to hang from the joists
01:06 PM Guest25: :It
01:06 PM roycroft: yay - my home automation book is allegedly out for delivery
01:06 PM roycroft: my laser head is not arriving until next week, though
01:06 PM roycroft: it was shipped from norcal to here via dhs
01:06 PM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w0EE0aOPz0&t=1s
01:07 PM roycroft: er, dhl
01:07 PM roycroft: so it's taking a week and a half for what takes other carries 2 days to deliver
01:07 PM skunkworks: fun
01:08 PM roycroft: you can just install a big monitor and blast away at the crawl space to enlarge it
01:08 PM roycroft: maybe with a nozzle with a 6" inlet and a 4" outlet
01:08 PM bjorkintosh: roycroft: which book did you get?
01:08 PM skunkworks: is the gantry going to do the digging?
01:08 PM roycroft: that should build plenty of pressure
01:09 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1801815291/
01:09 PM roycroft: it looks like a good book
01:09 PM roycroft: i hope it is
01:11 PM Guest25: basically a head with a heavy duty rotary hammer drill and a vacuum.. how hard can it be ? :)
01:11 PM * roycroft has not spent that much on a book recently
01:19 PM Guest25: how I create a user here ?
01:20 PM skunkworks: you don't really have to create a user.. but you can change it by /nick NewNickname
01:21 PM Guest25: ah got it
01:21 PM skunkworks: or https://docs.releng.linuxfoundation.org/en/latest/liberachat.html
01:21 PM Tom_L: if you want it to stick register it
01:22 PM skunkworks: what Tom_L said
01:23 PM Guest25 is now known as winston_doubleth
01:23 PM Tom_L: tested single point threading... werks
01:24 PM Tom_L: yt to come
01:26 PM winston_doubleth: I have to go to do more digging.. shoot me a message if you think it's possible! winston.doublethink at the big G
01:29 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MML9uMz7hvA
01:30 PM bjorkintosh: ah home assistant.
01:30 PM bjorkintosh: so far I have one smart plug for turning on the coffee machine in the morning, and turning it off after some time.
01:31 PM bjorkintosh: as long as I remember to prep the coffee the day before, coffee is pretty much ready when I wake up.
01:31 PM roycroft: yeah, home assistant was suggested to me here, and when i looked into it it seemed it might work well for me
01:31 PM bjorkintosh: so using the cheapest coffee machine from dollar general with a smart plug, I have the ideal set up.
01:31 PM roycroft: i don't intend to fully-automate my house, at least not in the short term, but a few things would be nice
01:32 PM roycroft: it's really dark by my front door, for example, and i have some steps to go up to get to the door that are slippery when wet and very dangerous when it's below freezing
01:32 PM bjorkintosh: I considered doing it for my monitors and audio setup too. but I can just turn it on and off from the extension.
01:32 PM roycroft: being able to turn on the porch light with my phone as my car approaches the driveway would be nice
01:32 PM roycroft: as well, when i step into the house, i have to walk across a room to get to a light switch
01:32 PM bjorkintosh: oh. I thought you were installing a floor heater to melt it.
01:33 PM xxcoder: yeah that was my thought also
01:33 PM roycroft: having a light turn on in the living room as i approach would be nice also
01:33 PM xxcoder: it dont need to heat much, just keep above 32f. say, 36f something
01:33 PM roycroft: i installed home assistant, and it immediately found my tvs and my octoprint server
01:33 PM bjorkintosh: from your phone?
01:33 PM bjorkintosh: or the web app?
01:33 PM roycroft: there's a home assistant phone app
01:34 PM roycroft: as long as my phone can connect to my wifi network it should be able to work
01:34 PM * roycroft should test that
01:34 PM roycroft: since i have home assistant installed in a virtual machine
01:34 PM roycroft: i can install the phone app and see if it can find my tvs and octoprint server
01:35 PM roycroft: as well, in my studio there are no overhead lights, and again, i have to walk across a dark room to get to a lamp
01:35 PM roycroft: being able to turn lights on there before i go to that room would be nice
01:35 PM bjorkintosh: which plugs did you get?
01:35 PM roycroft: i have nothing so far
01:36 PM roycroft: it's a big reason i'm anxious to get that book
01:36 PM bjorkintosh: I've heard good things about shelly: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/shelly/
01:36 PM roycroft: i haven't done home automation stuff since the x10 days, with serial ports and mains line signalling
01:36 PM roycroft: that was a good 30 years ago
01:36 PM bjorkintosh: though, I ended up with tplink kasa before I heard of shelly.
01:36 PM roycroft: the technology has changed since then
01:37 PM roycroft: and i'm going to start really slowly
01:37 PM skunkworks: linus tech tips is trying to automate his home using home assistant
01:38 PM bjorkintosh: 4 plugs for 18 dollars is cheap enough.
01:38 PM skunkworks: dad bought a bunch of x10 stuff in the 80's. It kinda just didn't work for the house as we had all flourecent lighting and the switches didn't like turning them on and off..
01:38 PM bjorkintosh: x10 is from the '80s??
01:38 PM roycroft: i wonder if i can easily monitor linuxcnc with home assistant
01:39 PM roycroft: it appears to not only monitor, but is able to somewhat control octoprint
01:39 PM skunkworks: wasn't that x10? I would have to look
01:40 PM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
01:40 PM bjorkintosh: skunkworks: I have no idea. I didn't know home automation was available back then.
01:40 PM skunkworks: oh yes..
01:40 PM bjorkintosh: but it makes sense. there's nothing new under the friggin sky
01:40 PM bjorkintosh: (and the sun too)
01:40 PM roycroft: x10 is what i used, and yes, that was in the '80s
01:40 PM Unterhausen: I upvoted Tom_L new video and it still shows 0 upvotes. I guess I don't count
01:40 PM bjorkintosh: you have to be in der hausen to vote
01:41 PM bjorkintosh: roycroft: monitor lcnc in what sense?
01:42 PM bjorkintosh: X10 was developed in 1975 by Pico Electronics of Glenrothes, Scotland, in order to allow remote control of home devices and appliances.
01:42 PM bjorkintosh: Oh my goodness.
01:42 PM bjorkintosh: the damned thing is nearing retirement age!
01:42 PM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm33KB2Th9M
01:43 PM bjorkintosh: damn. the altair and apple 1 were hot back then.
01:44 PM bjorkintosh: so you're telling me the future has been possible since '75 and I only started using a smart plug (checks notes), 3 months ago??
01:44 PM * roycroft has a pretty decent archive of scanned byte magazines, going back to the mid-70s
01:44 PM roycroft: i should put some of them online - they are interesting reads
01:45 PM bjorkintosh: yes they are
01:45 PM bjorkintosh: roycroft: https://vintageapple.org/byte/
01:45 PM Unterhausen: I am getting rid of all my x10 stuff
01:45 PM Unterhausen: I used to have their computer, which was pretty cool at the time
01:46 PM skunkworks: I did the same - part of the clear out after dad died.. (or I gave them to my uncle - I don't remember)
01:46 PM Unterhausen: All the controllers are dying, probably because caps don't last 40 years
01:46 PM roycroft: oh, good - someone has already done that
01:46 PM roycroft: now i don't have to
01:50 PM bjorkintosh: funny. the first one I clicked on has two articles from 1980 about home automation: https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/198002_Byte_Magazine_Vol_05-02_Graph_Theory.pdf
01:50 PM bjorkintosh: one's an automated oil heater. the one's about a dimmer.
01:53 PM bjorkintosh: oil heater. computer controlled wood burning stove.
01:53 PM skunkworks: I miss radioelectronics
01:54 PM * bjorkintosh have I not had enough coffee??
01:54 PM bjorkintosh: what's radioelectronics?
01:56 PM Tom_L: Unterhausen, i should have used a coarser thread in wood... made it a little harder to start the bolt
01:57 PM Unterhausen: your cycle needs a lead-in
01:57 PM Tom_L: i just added that
01:57 PM Tom_L: it stops .050 above the top now and feeds from there
01:58 PM Tom_L: thread count * pitch +.050
01:58 PM Tom_L: since internal threads start at the bottom and go up
01:59 PM Tom_L: actual lead in is an arc from the hole center
01:59 PM Tom_L: it's hard to see on a small thread
02:01 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps573HmrkJ4
02:01 PM Tom_L: at ~.53 there
02:04 PM Tom_L: i didn't wanna add the z rapid until i was done testing
02:04 PM Tom_L: cutters ain't free
02:27 PM rdtsc-wk: wonder if you can thread-mill foam :)
02:29 PM roycroft: if it's firm enough
02:29 PM roycroft: or your cutter is delicate enoguh
02:30 PM bjorkintosh: machinable foam, rdtsc-wk?
02:30 PM bjorkintosh: like this? https://www.mcmaster.com/products/machinable-foam/
02:31 PM rdtsc-wk: exactly bjorkintosh, just at the Lowe's or Home Depot prices :)
02:32 PM rdtsc-wk: up-side is, can sand, fill, and finish... then use it for lost-foam casting.
02:36 PM rdtsc-wk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kySWXUkRg-8
03:34 PM Tom_L: get some machinable wax
03:49 PM Tom_L: https://machinablewax.com/
03:53 PM Tom_L: https://machinablewax.com/machinable-wax-blocks-1-5-38mm-thick/
04:57 PM acer is now known as _unreal_
04:57 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, whats up
05:00 PM _unreal_: blaaaaaaa... so I just messed with my daughter. I was enjoying am enjoying coronas with lime. and I got a lime that was rather "dry". My daughter 15yo was just kind of looking at me. and I had a half a lime sitting on the cutting board. I decided to just pick it up and bite off half of it. She looked at me with horror as I "happily enjoyed it". I'm currently suffering from ZEST over load ;). but the look on my daughters
05:00 PM _unreal_: face was worth it. I also offered her a lime. she was like WHAAAA NOOOOO EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
05:01 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, YOU LIVE?
05:05 PM t4nk_fn: partially
05:06 PM t4nk_fn: not far from my bed
05:06 PM * t4nk_fn spanks _unreal_ around with the non-decorated side of a cutting board
05:06 PM _unreal_: t4 MSG
05:09 PM _unreal_: t4nk_fn, ?
05:17 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:36 PM roycroft: i was hoping to finish painting the door this afternoon, but the first coat is not dry yet
05:36 PM roycroft: even though the shop is heated, with the humidity up close to 100% paint still dries slowlly
05:37 PM roycroft: i may not get it installed this weekend after all
05:37 PM roycroft: maybe it will be dry later on this evening
05:37 PM roycroft: meanwhile, my home automation book just arrived, so i can go study that for a while
05:39 PM roycroft: meanwhile, after 9 days, my laser head has made it from norcal to socal
05:39 PM * roycroft reminds dnl that oregon is not mexico
05:39 PM roycroft: dhl
07:46 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
07:51 PM rdtsc: Roycroft's adventures.... mine was go to wifey's christmas function (that she didn't want to go to) or put up eaves lights and inflatables.... the latter won, now she's back... either I'll brb or good night...
07:53 PM rdtsc: +rpi updates, +mabox updates
08:00 PM rdtsc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-JOeKrUyU
08:13 PM roycroft: my big adventure coming up is trying to find the baggies with my shed door hardware and my studio wall cabinet hardware
08:13 PM roycroft: both of those projects are almost complete, but need their hardware to finish u
08:13 PM roycroft: p
08:13 PM xxcoder: nice
08:13 PM xxcoder: bit of adventure for me today lol
08:14 PM xxcoder: upgrade my ups for first time with lifepo4 batteries I got on black friday
08:14 PM xxcoder: just finished testing it, it lasted nearly 3 hours, compared to pretty shot lead acid batteries at 30 min, and 1 hour and half at new
10:03 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
10:47 PM CloudEvil: :)
10:47 PM CloudEvil: Are these the internally balanced ones?
10:48 PM xxcoder: batteries has BMS yeah
10:49 PM xxcoder: npot all lifepo4 can be in series but ones I got can be
10:49 PM xxcoder: limited to 4