#linuxcnc Logs
Nov 30 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:20 AM Deejay: moin
01:47 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:35 AM Tom_L: morning
05:20 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:24 AM Tom_L: got an error with 'file edit'
05:33 AM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> Hey, i have a bug where sometimes g61 gets replaced with a ridiculously large path blending tolerance
05:33 AM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> even though it still says g61 is still the active gcode
05:33 AM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> -still
08:38 AM rdtsc: condense it down to the smallest repeatable example, and if sure it's a bug, ask at https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues
08:39 AM JT-Cave: https://youtu.be/4omkGHa8fg4
08:42 AM Tom_L: was that the passenger side?
08:42 AM JT-Cave: no, that's the drivers side
08:43 AM Tom_L: makin good progress
08:45 AM JT-Cave: passenger side is done except the tie rod assembly... waiting on the back ordered tie rod tubes
08:47 AM rdtsc: for easier disassy of stubborn bolts, spray seafoam penetrant about an hour before; recently saw where that worked better than ATF+acetone, WD-40, and everything else
08:54 AM JT-Cave: I use break free
09:45 AM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
10:14 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
11:19 AM roycroft: hello, folks who use lasers
11:19 AM roycroft: i have a sanity check question
11:19 AM roycroft: for my laser enclosure i have an acrylic shield that has the proper protection rating for my blue diode laser
11:20 AM roycroft: i'm getting a 1064nm laser module for the machine, and the current shield does not block that wavelength
11:21 AM roycroft: if i get a vinyl film shield that is rated for the new laser module and apply that to the top of the acrylic shield, i should be good to go for both wavelengths, no?
11:21 AM roycroft: i underestand that visible light transmission will be significantly reduced, but that's ok
11:31 AM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
11:48 AM CloudEvil: Yes, you can stack protections like that.
11:48 AM CloudEvil: Just blacking it out and using a suitable camera may be another option
12:11 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
12:27 PM roycroft: i may do that
12:27 PM roycroft: it will cost about $250 for the 1064nm film
12:28 PM roycroft: and i have already been pondering using a camera - lightburn can index with a camera
12:34 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
12:52 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> Hello, I try to set up my index on the home limit but I'm not sure the pulse is working. I don't manage to see it activated in Hal show. Maybe it's because it's very short
12:53 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> Is there a way to record what happen on a pin to check if it has been triggered or not for a very short period?
12:53 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> Hal scope?
12:58 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc-old/tuning/encoder.html
01:01 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> spindle brake
01:01 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/teWRXcwjVoUQxPFKeZoGUKDX/20241130_200811.mp4
01:01 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> now i need a custom gcode to turn it on and off
01:02 PM JT-Shop: not found
01:02 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> file doesnt upload?
01:02 PM JT-Shop: dunno
01:02 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> it works for me on discord client :/
01:03 PM JT-Shop: spindle.N.brake bit out TRUE when decelerating
01:05 PM Tom_L: the img bridge to discord is broke on irc
01:05 PM Tom_L: vid png etc
01:05 PM xxcoder: sort of. if direct upload to discord its fine, but if its link to elsewhere it doesnt
01:06 PM xxcoder: videos seem completely broken though
01:06 PM xxcoder: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970073318810075149/1312491570741903472/20241130_200811.mp4?ex=674cb087&is=674b5f07&hm=022a19bec01fe0fafbcf23f159a419f15027315e6d0a3931365a8d6811009e14&
01:06 PM xxcoder: should work
01:09 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> im gonna use it with orient m19
01:10 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> for drilling
01:10 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> and for emergency stop
01:12 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> i calculated that if the torque listed for the brake is correct, the weight of my cat will be able to rotate the spindle at 1.2meter long lever
01:12 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> * with
01:13 PM lcnc-relay: <sodakaustik@discord> i will test it tomorrow with a basket.
01:23 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> roycroft: what size IR window do you need?
01:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> https://www.gobosource.com/gos/rosco-dichroic-filter-rosco-permacolor-8100-iruv-filter-mirror-p-3916.html
01:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> if you just need a small viewing window
01:41 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I'm a little bit lost on my index home configuration. I don't understand how I need to declare it in my Hal file
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/NhmMjQwoTqLkZKuGQiGkfaAo/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_cdd481f8-114e-4b82-aaa1-eedc99395224.jpg
01:52 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I tried hm2_7i96s..gpio.036.in but I get an error message
01:52 PM xxcoder: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073318810075149/1312504289238712401/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_cdd481f8-114e-4b82-aaa1-eedc99395224.jpg?ex=674cbc5f&is=674b6adf&hm=b91b3af2e1ef2e9f9e343a8e3eea22c887fc538dd067948ae646b3484fd63c32&=&format=webp&width=493&height=657 working image link
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I physically wired my index pulse on the i/o36
01:59 PM Tom_L: vibram, spindle index?
01:59 PM Tom_L: # For Spindle Sync
01:59 PM Tom_L: net spindle-index-enable <=> hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.01.index-enable
01:59 PM Tom_L: net spindle-index-enable <=> spindle.0.index-enable
02:00 PM Tom_L: those are the signals
02:00 PM Tom_L: note spindle.0.index-enable is bidiretional
02:01 PM Tom_L: doesn't look like it's for spindle in your case
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> No sorry axis index for homing
02:02 PM Tom_L: yeah i see that now
02:02 PM Tom_L: i dunno much about using index for homing.. mine is just switches
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/BKkXUtodBfdzcCAiyAKzBULp/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_426c095b-8d7f-4083-b2cd-d3c7179ed9e6.jpg
02:02 PM Tom_L: pcw could help
02:03 PM Tom_L: can't see those on this side of the river
02:03 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I don't find how to declare this index i/o
02:03 PM Tom_L: might ask on the forum etc or search there for index homing etc
02:03 PM xxcoder: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073318810075149/1312507039481729065/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_426c095b-8d7f-4083-b2cd-d3c7179ed9e6.jpg?ex=674cbeef&is=674b6d6f&hm=8a6ea1c038449d4a2ec66de6f83190fcf7207f3609b2814c0e8aabbd2609c69b&=&format=webp&width=877&height=657
02:04 PM Tom_L: you have that set for in and you're trying to use it for out
02:04 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I will try the forum yes, because I run out of Google search
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> Hum
02:05 PM Tom_L: i have seen it discussed here but don't recall how it went
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I used this post https://forum.linuxcnc.org/49-basic-configuration/43009-problem-homing-with-index?start=0
02:07 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> I used this post https://forum.linuxcnc.org/49-basic-configuration/43009-problem-homing-with-index?start=0
02:08 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> But changed the i/o obviously
02:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2023-11-25.html
02:10 PM Tom_L: search 'index' there
02:11 PM Tom_L: 10:30 AM pcw-home: If you are not using encoder feedback, but are homing to index with a step/dir system, you must use firmware with step/dir index and connect index-enable to stepgen index enable rather than encoder index enable
02:12 PM Tom_L: possible you may need different firmware?
02:12 PM Tom_L: i dunno
02:12 PM Tom_L: zmrdko was the victim
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> Yes I have a custom. Firmware 🙂
02:13 PM Tom_L: or ask him on discord
02:13 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> But I don't understand how to declare the line
02:14 PM Tom_L: all the paste.debian are dead there now, too far back
02:15 PM Tom_L: 10:00 AM lcnc-relay: <zmrdko (@_discord_397707718582075420:jauriarts.org)> Hello 👋, so I’m trying to make work index homing on 7i95T and delta b2 servo. Jogging works, but homing does not detect index signal.
02:15 PM Tom_L: start reading there
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> On discord?
02:20 PM Tom_L: in that log i just posted
02:20 PM Tom_L: zmrdko is on discord you might ask him
02:21 PM Tom_L: was anyway
02:22 PM Tom_L: https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/jauriarts.org/ZwSYgDIFGtfcgrUjPOIvLOeZ
02:22 PM Tom_L: part of his config
02:30 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> thank you; i asked pcw on the forum because I dont understand
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> bvecause i have 5 StepGen Index possibilities
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <vibram@discord> and i don't see how i declare thati use the i/o36
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> Endstop/Limit switch wiring question, I'm using a MESA 7C80 and have NPN NC inductive sensors. They have 3 wires:
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: Brown = V+
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: Black = LOAD
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: Blue = 0V
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: The MESA Manual states:
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: Inputs 0..15 use input common 0 (TB2 pin 1), while inputs 16..23 use input common
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: 1 (TB2 pin 2)
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: For PNP type sensors or switches with a common positive, the input common pin
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: is grounded and the sensor or switch applies a positive voltage to the input pin to activate
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: the input.
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: For NPN type sensors or switches with a common ground, the input common is
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: connected to +5 to +36V and the input pins are grounded to activate an input.
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: Am I correct that I should wire Blue wire to the sensor pin, the Brown to input Common (which will be 36v+ in this case)? and leave Black unterminated?
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/cTBqmWZLqPqTVljnVThhWedR/image.png
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/WUBOWnTimZuHUnpWdZwctbZL/image.png
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/bggaGQIKtaXUkBzkskRfXDvK/image.png
03:32 PM xxcoder: working image links for irc https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073318810075149/1312529281376714796/image.png?ex=674cd3a6&is=674b8226&hm=5d18b46adab06f33e722767681e706fffc7ff11fa51c23167c7f7168482f0f68&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=603&height=452 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/970073318810075149/1312529281959592087/image.png?ex=674cd3a6&is=674b8226&hm=87335652ab097e714c6fbd5c4cc733eb0d3ed8d197dceefadce9c8bd7ebe29aa&=&format=webp&
03:32 PM xxcoder: quality=lossless&width=1165&height=657
03:33 PM xxcoder: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/970073318810075149/1312529281699549215/image.png?ex=674cd3a6&is=674b8226&hm=81932439801d7ba1b817eb0b18ee11ee3b29ce2534bd1f82a9556778e7257b8f&
03:34 PM lcnc-relay: <xxcoder@discord> I hop bridging for images stuff is fixed soon lol
03:38 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> looks like i should be wiring as follows, according to this link:
03:38 PM lcnc-relay: https://wiringall.com/npn-proximity-sensor-wiring.html
03:38 PM lcnc-relay: Brown = 36v+ (from PSU as well as to Common for sensor pin)
03:38 PM lcnc-relay: Blue = GND (from PSU)
03:38 PM lcnc-relay: Black = sensor pin input
04:22 PM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> 36v+??? looked to me like 24v+
04:25 PM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> my guess is, it can handle up to 36V, but most industrial hardware uses 24V logic
04:28 PM rdtsc: which sensor exactly? link
04:42 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> xxcoder@discord I wish that the bot issue was in my top 100 list of problems 🙂
04:44 PM xxcoder: sucks
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> travis_farmer@discord: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0160VLI7Q
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: motors are all 36v, MESA board accepts up to 40V.
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: avoiding another PSU or DC/DC convertor if possible
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0160VLI7Q
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: motors are all 36v, MESA board accepts up to 40V.
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: avoiding another PSU or DC/DC convertor if possible
06:09 PM Guest22: We have a custom-made linuxcnc machine at hackerspace that currently runs linuxcnc ~2.7.14 and is scheduled for rebuild and upgrade, but i am lazy af and hate having to run across the whole workshop to send the gcode over ssh and back all the time, is there an easy way to send the gcode from freecad as if i would with 3D printer with ability to
06:09 PM Guest22: stop and pause it remotely? (technically if i can just update debian on the machine and it will persist the various configurations then i could update the linuxcnc as well
06:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> setup samba
06:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> then you would have a network drive to drop ngc files to
06:13 PM rdtsc: ccatlett, BLK sensor output to input 0-15, common TB2 pin 1 to 0V. LED on input 0 should glow and go out when sensor is actuated. Then use "hm2_7c80.0.inmux.00.input-00" or "hm2_7c80.0.inmux.00.input-00-not" in your HAL file.
06:23 PM rdtsc: Guest22 if considering upgrading LinuxCNC, I'd personally advise to backup the hard disk to a flash drive and remove it from the machine; sometimes the install and reconfig can be quite tricky. Could just try to upgrade LCNC outright which might work - but having that hard disk ready to go in case it doesn;t work can save your bacon.
08:31 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> rdtsc: noted
08:31 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> skunkworks8841@discord: getting the files on the CNC is not an issue the problem is being able to control it remotely through freecad
08:33 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> hoping that there is already some pre-existing integration rather then engineering something from scratch tbh
08:34 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> cuz i like want to make the CNC as easy to use as the prusa 3D printers through stuff like automatic homing and part location through lidar and monitoring the part and tool temperature via thermal camera for example
08:35 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> The Octoprint for CNC basically :D
08:36 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> _has long-term knowledge and experience with machining and is not random quasi engineer that came from 3D printer on a CNC and wants to turn it into a 3D printer that does metal_
08:36 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> rdtsc: wanting to save the first set of inputs for a MPG, any changes for inputs 12-23?
08:36 PM Tom_L: rdtsc, getting single point threading closer to working
08:37 PM Tom_L: ID OD RH LH multi pass
08:38 PM rdtsc: krey2892 if you have a Linux computer networked to it, might be able to SSH -Y (graphical SSH from Linux) into it and run LinuxCNC "across the network." Doesn't help getting files to it, but a neat trick nonetheless
08:38 PM Tom_L: krey2892 from 2.7 there are several config changes you can expect to make
08:39 PM Tom_L: spindle, joint are the 2 main ones
08:40 PM Tom_L: i think there's a conversion tool but when i tried it, it didn't get everything
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> rdtsc: i want rather a thing that can send commands to the linuxcnc tbh
08:42 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> e.g. having a remote (x230 laptop) and host (cnc) and sending e.g. G0 X20 from remote for the host to comply
08:42 PM Tom_L: that's kindof risky business
08:43 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> i am aware of the risks
08:43 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> and it's 1800 RPM max CNC with rapid movement of 5mm/s so you would see issues comming
08:44 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ... on the other hand there is also one massive CNC that has very heavy gantry that has 25K RPM and moves fast enough to throw the gantry through the wall.. but one CNC at the time :D
08:44 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> this seems like a poor way to solve the problem, what is the actual problem(s) that you want to solve by doing this?
08:44 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> you want to 1. send files to it. 2. interact with it
08:44 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> Being able to control the CNC remotely is the actual problem so that i have like a button in FreeCAD that has send to CNC for the CNC to then do stuff with options to stop and do movement
08:45 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> vnc isn't sufficient?
08:45 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ideally some pre-existing integration otherwite probably VNC
08:46 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> i'm fairly certain you could scrip freeCAD (making an assumption here) to upload the file via scp or sftp via a script.
08:46 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> also the idea for the other CNC is to have like a lift filled with material that can be suctioned on demand and changed automatically for the CNC to work remotely without any work
08:47 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> lights-out manufacturing is another topic entirely
08:47 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ccatlett1984@discord: How do you automatically load the file and start the CNC?
08:47 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ccatlett1984@discord: that's like future work to show the overall plan, for this smaller CNC i just want to be able to control it remotely rn
08:48 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> krey2892@discord https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/python-interface.html
08:49 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ccatlett1984@discord: so iirc making a python scripts that upload files and control the CNC that have dedicated buttons in freecad?
08:49 PM Tom_L: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/26076-remote-access-to-your-cnc-machine
08:50 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> Tom_L: was looking into that already, not really a fan of doing like a remote desktop and then controlling things there, rather integration that sends commands
08:51 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/man/man1/linuxcncrsh.1.html
08:51 PM rdtsc: ccatlett1984 for inputs 16-23 those just use TB2-2 as the common pin - same thing only different :)
08:51 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> oooo
08:51 PM Tom_L: getting closer?
08:52 PM rdtsc: "hm2_7c80.0.inmux.00.input-16"
08:52 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> Tom_L: seems to be what i want, so basically different frontend?
08:53 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> well looking through ideally i need to see an output from the normal camera, thermal camera and probably camera on the tool head as well but that can be separate integration if needs be
08:54 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> krey2892@discord: sounds like you would be better off making a webserver, and have it do the interactions (while displaying your cameras)
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://github.com/multigcs/linuxcnc-web
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> Like to elaborate the integration what we have for the 3D printing farm rn is this local webserver, that has the cameras shows on the page and when e.g. opening some 3D printer it has this like command controls that have the cameras, options to do scripts and various other options basically seems like a home assistant but for 3D printer
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/dduEzXrnBOLNMvqPSiylxXod/image.png
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://github.com/multigcs/linuxcnc-web
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/MSRJEbNZVbDafToyEuGwnYdn/image.png
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> kinda trying to get something similar for the CNC tbh
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> but the commands are enough to get the integration in freecad
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPX5JfDFO0
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPX5JfDFO0
08:59 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> so that for example i have a 3D printer with ERCF (multimaterial solution) and when i am working on a CNC i can schedule a 3D printer to make me a replacement part for my notebook without having to leave the CNC and having full situational awareness over what it's doing so that kind of intergration
08:59 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
08:59 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ccatlett1984@discord: that seems pretty good, though seems kinda less funcitonal in comparison to klipper
09:00 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> (the command control from the previous image = klipper3D)
09:00 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> krey2892@discord: you mean, Mainsail (as that is the UI component), but this is very early in design (a few months old)
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> actually it seems that there is a fork of klipper that works on integration with CNCs https://github.com/naikymen/klipper-for-cnc that seems like it would be perfect
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> actually it seems that there is a fork of klipper that works on integration with CNCs https://github.com/naikymen/klipper-for-cnc that seems like it would be perfect
09:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Have you run a CNC?
09:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I always was wondering why people kept saying 3d printing was so easy.. just send and print.. until I finally got a 3d printer.. yes. Mostly just click to print.
09:13 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> krey2892@discord: klipper batches commands to the controller, you do NOT want that on a CNC
09:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Coming from a CNC background.. now I finally understand the frustration 3d printer people have coming to CNC - wondering why you can't just 'click and print'
09:15 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> yep, automated "glue gun" has way fewer variables to worry about
09:16 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> i came from CNCs to 3D Printers and kinda trying to get the ease of use on CNC so that we don't have like big workshop filled with equipment to do machining only for most of the people to be hiding in the social area and dancing around 3D printers and constantly asking me to make them something out of metal tbh xD
09:16 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> like we have a 3D printer for metal but people are afraid of it as it's kinda radioactive and kinda sucks rn
09:35 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> ccatlett1984@discord: it doesn't seem to do that on the 3D printer that we have
09:35 PM t4nk_freenode is now known as t4nk_fn
09:35 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> the controller on the current CNC is mesa PCIE card in x86 computer with debian btw
09:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> krey2892@discord: Clipper batches commands as it sends them to the MCU.
09:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> You also are unable to exit a macro once you have entered one, other than an emergency stop.
09:37 PM lcnc-relay: <ccatlett1984@discord> Klipper batches commands as it sends them to the MCU.
09:38 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> oh i see, though that seems manageable through software no?
09:53 PM lcnc-relay: <thorhian@discord> Klipper isn’t at the level of true hard realtime control that LCNC has. People get by with printer tier firmwares, but it’s not going to offer the control you want or need on anything bigger/heavier/more powerful than your typical hobby CNC router.
09:53 PM lcnc-relay: Honestly I wish there was more work to get LCNC ready for high end printers, stuff like the easy input shaping, pressure advance, etc you get on printer firmwares like klipper, unless some people are going to convert the python linux side klipper code into a real time Linux application using a real time Linux kernel and stop batching commands.
10:05 PM lcnc-relay: <thorhian@discord> I should be able to rotate a knob (a physical or digital one) that is hooked up the speed override on the machine and see it speed up or slow down as I turn it while it’s running. When I hit pause, it should pause _now_, and not after it gets done with its last few tasks in the buffer. I shouldn’t need to e-stop to do that. Klipper, to my knowledge and experience with my Voron 2.4, can’t do those things.
10:05 PM lcnc-relay: Klipper is awesome btw, and it’s made printers way better over the years.
10:16 PM Tom_L: ain't nuthin like the real thing baby
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10:55 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> thorhian@discord: You are making it sound even better to me rn
10:56 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> what's the current state of LCNC on 3D printers btw.. The idea i have in my head rn is to get people from this hackerspace to help with adjusting klipper for realtime and run LCNC on them.
10:57 PM lcnc-relay: <krey2892@discord> I assume that arm/riscv support is not problem right?