#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 29 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:01 AM roycroft: great - i'll work on fine-tuning one of those days
12:15 AM xxcoder: ok
12:15 AM xxcoder: honestly I have no firm day so if you need to go outside those 3 day its also fine
01:54 AM Deejay: moin
01:58 AM lcnc-relay: <meisterdippel@discord> moin
02:57 AM lcnc-relay: <TurBoss> goog morning
02:59 AM lcnc-relay: <TurBoss> * good
04:06 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:11 AM Tom_L: morning
06:14 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> Morning
06:14 AM lcnc-relay: procedure day, so no food or drink... 😦
06:18 AM JT-Cave: https://ibb.co/jvxvCyv
06:21 AM JT-Cave: I think flex is at the point that I need to check for name changes when that happens
06:21 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> good idea, but how to keep track of ALL the changes 😉
06:21 AM JT-Cave: only object name changes usually cause a problem so only one at the moment
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09:04 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> travis_farmer@discord how is your mom? Mine is currently fevering from the flu she caught from my son.
09:14 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/JmGOLzIgStNOhpadKlPOuJXQ/PXL_20241029_140536244.MP.jpg
09:14 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/LVCzfoyWSxfPGqlgYNjAdbrF/PXL_20241029_140528326.MP.jpg
09:14 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lol - a few generations between...
09:16 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> (still printing shoretrooper parts..
09:55 AM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> Sorry, was having a medical procedure done in the big city...
09:55 AM lcnc-relay: mom is doing better, still not eating a whole lot due to the ulcer, but drinking a ton of milk.
10:12 AM roycroft: we're forecast to have a respite from the rain today
10:13 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> we have rain marching in tomorrow
10:13 AM roycroft: we've had pretty heavy rain, for the most part, for a week
10:13 AM roycroft: saturday we had a break, and i was able to haul a load of stuff from the old property in my pickup
10:13 AM roycroft: i did not get home until late at night, though, so i put up an ez-up over the pickup bed, which was good because it rained all night
10:15 AM roycroft: 15mm of rain tomorrow, 21mm thursday, 17mm friday
10:15 AM roycroft: it's going to get wetter
10:15 AM roycroft: and we'll have snow in the passes again
10:15 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> lucky you
10:16 AM roycroft: willamette pass has some snow on the side of the road right now - i just checked at tripcheck.com
10:16 AM roycroft: the road itself is bare and wet
10:17 AM roycroft: but it's below freezing there, so that could change
10:26 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> snowing on Mt Ashland
10:26 AM roycroft: well that was lovely
10:27 AM roycroft: we just had a brief power outage
10:27 AM roycroft: but my upses did not kick in for whatever reason
10:30 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> roycroft: check the weather here https://www.windy.com/?37.988,-122.153,4,i:pressure,m:eSWacKO
10:31 AM roycroft: when i can
10:31 AM roycroft: my imac is still starting up
10:31 AM roycroft: it takes a while to reboot and fully restore things, especially after an ungraceful shutdown
10:31 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> imac???? wtf
10:32 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> pos
10:34 AM roycroft: i'm really happy using macs as workstations
10:34 AM roycroft: they're unix machines
10:34 AM roycroft: but with real apps
10:34 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> what ever floats your boat....
10:35 AM roycroft: having choices is good
10:50 AM rdtsc-wk: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/R7ZiEcpblVE/maxresdefault.jpg
10:57 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, PR #165
11:26 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> well - the monoprice mini plugged up
11:27 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> So - I replaced the plugged hot end of the ender 3 with dads. went pretty smooth and now printing again
11:27 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I should work on that.
11:41 AM JT-Cave: OK
11:42 AM JT-Cave: pr done :)
11:44 AM rdtsc-wk: For PETG, try soaking the hot end in tetrahydrofuran (THF), an industrial PVC solvent (if you can find some.)
11:50 AM roycroft: i use acupuncture needles to help clear hot end nozzles
11:50 AM roycroft: they're available on ebay really cheap
12:15 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> almost 60 outside. time for a short, easy ride... bbl
12:16 PM roycroft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/161922587704
12:16 PM roycroft: you can get a "random sample" box there really cheap
12:17 PM roycroft: the deluge is over here for now
12:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> one is plugged with pla - the other with petg
12:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I wonder if I purchased a new hotend..
12:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I would have to look
12:21 PM roycroft: i have a "tornado" hot end on my ender5
12:21 PM roycroft: it's an extra-large hot end, and can take really big nozzles
12:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I have a whatever came with the ender3 hot end.. Which looks exactly the same as the one on dads older ender3
12:22 PM roycroft: when i was squirting out those fastener/hardware storage boxes by the hundreds, i was not concerned so much about quality as how fast i could extrude them
12:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> oh - like it is a bigger diameter?
12:23 PM roycroft: the hot end is longer
12:23 PM roycroft: not bigger diameter
12:23 PM roycroft: iirc
12:23 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> ah
12:24 PM roycroft: i'd have to compare them side by side - the tornado and the stock one
12:24 PM * JT-Cave hears a nap calling his name
12:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> mom just had some chicken soup.. She looks better and ate well
12:25 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> still achey...
12:26 PM roycroft: xxcoder: are you about?
12:26 PM * roycroft suspects it may be a bit early in the day for xxcoder
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12:30 PM roycroft: https://www.filastruder.com/collections/all-hotends/products/revo-cr-kit?variant=39617263566919
12:31 PM roycroft: that's what i have
12:31 PM roycroft: i used a 0.8mm nozzle for the fastener/hardware boxes
12:31 PM roycroft: but i run a 0.4mm nozzle in it for most things
12:32 PM roycroft: the vendor is not the friendliest in the world, but they're competent, and their product works fine
12:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> huh - do they come with the mating plugs? I don't think mine have plugs at the hot end
12:36 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> (Does yours have plugs?)
12:36 PM roycroft: i recall having to do some rewiring when i got mine
12:36 PM roycroft: but i don't recall exactly what i had to do
12:36 PM roycroft: it has plugs now
12:36 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> That would be nice - I replaced the whole wiring harnes this morning..
12:36 PM roycroft: i can swap the old hot end back in if need be
12:37 PM roycroft: the illustration on the web page shows plugs
12:37 PM roycroft: but again, i don't recall what i got
12:37 PM roycroft: i added some extra cooling fans to mine, which was part of the rewiring work
12:37 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> The circuit boards are similar between the 2 enders - but not exactly the same . lol
12:38 PM roycroft: i do recall that after doing the rewiring, the rest of the install went fine and the hot end works great
12:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> It fixed the noisy fan problem 😉
12:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/SxwEdFMkMhkDtNlUVphyIJcw/PXL_20241029_173723584.jpg
12:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> little stringing - but for this it doesn't matter
01:02 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Lowered the temp on the next one
01:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/cycGwbNXKYsQiscTAERdXWBv/PXL_20241029_175805816.MP.jpg
01:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> first layer porn
01:07 PM xxcoder: nice worm ;)
01:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I have switched totally to tree supports..
01:09 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lol - coworker who has an ender 5? IIRC can't get out of his way for printing. He has to level the bed every time he uses it..
01:10 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I told him I rarely level the bed.. Only after a screwing with the hot end or such..
01:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> he is also a control freak.
01:11 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> (and he doesn't believe me)
01:11 PM roycroft: i have an ender 5
01:12 PM roycroft: i leveled the bed when i moved it to my new house half a year ago
01:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> yep.
01:12 PM roycroft: prior to that i leveled it when i bought it, maybe 3 years or more ago
01:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> This is the first time I have leveled the bed in probably a year or more... (moved it here and changed the hot end)
01:12 PM roycroft: oh, wit
01:13 PM roycroft: wait
01:13 PM roycroft: i did relevel it when i installed the new hot end a couple and a half years ago or so
01:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> right
01:13 PM roycroft: i have found that the ender 5 is a bit fiddly to set up initially, as i suspect most 3d printers are
01:14 PM roycroft: but once it's dialed in it just works
01:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> yes - same. (although the bambu has been amazing)
01:14 PM roycroft: it's the only 3d printer i've owned, so i don't have anything to compare it to
01:14 PM roycroft: i should be getting a delta printer very soon
01:14 PM roycroft: that will be interesting
01:15 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I thought the ender 3 was easy.. (compared to the monoprice mini) but the bambu really is print and forget. It prints a bunch of test lines and uses lidar? to check the calibration.
01:16 PM xxcoder: monoprice mini was so easy for me, once I fixed its problems
01:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> yep..
01:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> needed more cooling, bed wiring..
01:16 PM xxcoder: bought it used for so cheap
01:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> It was bought new - first printer.
01:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> supports on the mini were always a pain. for some reason they always stuck to hard to the part. Never figured it out
01:18 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> going to the ender 3 - the supports almost fell off.. which was delightful
01:23 PM roycroft: xxcoder: i'm off by a week
01:23 PM roycroft: next week is my vacation week
01:23 PM roycroft: so 8,9,10 november work well, and i can make 4 or 7 november work if need be
01:23 PM roycroft: oh, he's gone again
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01:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/kmXMeNyxrxAXYxCezuYaqnXd/PXL_20241029_182414562.jpg
01:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> a little paint..
01:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> is needed
01:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Going through the fillament dad had bought ages ago.
01:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> sully is very happy about how this is turning out - he has been painting it.
01:35 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> we are not going to be done with all the plates - but he understands as he has been involved. He is understanding that things take time.
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01:49 PM Tom_L: he'll remember it more than if you'd just gone out and bought one
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <travis_farmer@discord> thats for sure, Tom_L. i remember as a kid having those crappy masks that were hard to see through, and came with the printed pants and shirt, all made out of plastic.
02:48 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I found some plastic mesh for the visor.. It looks suprisingly good
03:06 PM xxcoder: yay my home is warming up again lol
03:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> start it on fire?
03:06 PM xxcoder: nah just switched from one prop tank to other
03:06 PM xxcoder: I thought both was empty but seems not
03:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Grill tanks?
03:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> 😉
03:07 PM xxcoder: yep im grilling myself
03:10 PM xxcoder: I want to have electric heating but not enough power here for that
03:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> shouldn't a heat pump be more efficent than electric heat. (atleast down to a certain temp)
03:14 PM xxcoder: yeah would have to replace ac with full heat pump type
03:14 PM xxcoder: that would be even better
03:14 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> oh.. I thought you had a heat pump for some reason
03:14 PM xxcoder: prop is fine for now, lowest power usage for now
03:15 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> it is like 70 here today
03:15 PM roycroft: xxcoder: i think you disappeared as i was saying this earlier
03:15 PM xxcoder: I have that bigass ac still, plan to sell it evenually. its fancy 2 hose portable heat pump, but way too much power for this now
03:15 PM roycroft: i'm a week off on my vacation - it is next week, not the week after
03:15 PM roycroft: is that workable for you?
03:15 PM xxcoder: no problem
03:16 PM roycroft: so 8,9,10 november are my best days
03:16 PM roycroft: 5,7 november can work
03:16 PM xxcoder: whatever best for you
03:16 PM roycroft: 8 november is probably the ideal day, as it's not a weekend
03:16 PM xxcoder: 8 is fine
03:16 PM roycroft: although pdx traffic on a friday is the same as weekend trafic
03:16 PM roycroft: let me see if there's an oregon ducks game in town that day
03:16 PM roycroft: er, that weekend
03:16 PM roycroft: that also makes a big difference on traffic
03:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lowering the temp seems to have fixed the stringing
03:17 PM xxcoder: fridays always been worse for me when I drove home from work lol. some places is just insane if you happen to go with same flow
03:17 PM xxcoder: ill drive south the day before, and meet you next day
03:17 PM roycroft: hmm, november 9 in eugene
03:17 PM roycroft: i do not want to be on the freeway at all on the 9th
03:17 PM roycroft: the 8th will work though
03:18 PM roycroft: especially if we can do it early
03:18 PM roycroft: it's a 2-1/2 hour drive from here + traffic, but i can probably be in pdx by 11
03:18 PM xxcoder: I dont wake up till say 10-11 am so thats fine
03:18 PM roycroft: what brand/model is the book scanner, btw?
03:18 PM xxcoder: at hime usually 9-10 but being unconfortable at other location yah im not going to sleep well lol
03:18 PM roycroft: i forget if you told me before
03:19 PM roycroft: if you did i've orgotten
03:19 PM xxcoder: its first generation not sure what model was
03:19 PM xxcoder: a second lkemme look up
03:19 PM roycroft: first generation is the brand?
03:19 PM xxcoder: no, the model
03:19 PM xxcoder: lading kickstarter
03:21 PM xxcoder: uh might be from indiegogo looking there now
03:22 PM xxcoder: duh I can see the box from here. czurtek
03:23 PM roycroft: ok, they're a pretty well-known book scanner company now
03:24 PM roycroft: but their current products are really cheap
03:25 PM xxcoder: still trying to load site lol. very bad latency atm
03:25 PM roycroft: ok, i'd like to have a better idea what it is
03:25 PM roycroft: but i don't need to know this instant
03:26 PM xxcoder: mine looks like ET series lemme see what list of models it have
03:27 PM roycroft: if it's the et series it will probably be fine
03:27 PM roycroft: if you can find the specs at some point that would be great
03:28 PM xxcoder: yeah lemme look at box
03:28 PM roycroft: and it would be good to know if you have the flattening software, or if the current flattening software works with that model
03:28 PM roycroft: that's one of the most important features if one is going to scan actual books
03:28 PM xxcoder: pok it is et16
03:28 PM roycroft: windows/macos/linux - it doesn't matter the platform
03:28 PM xxcoder: not pro or anything
03:29 PM roycroft: they currently have an et16 plus
03:29 PM roycroft: it's probably close to that
03:29 PM xxcoder: think "standard et16" was out of production for while. yeah likely
03:30 PM xxcoder: honestly 150 is fine since its older modelk
03:31 PM xxcoder: dont matter to me all that much since youre also getting cnc router which is far more expensive for free lol
03:32 PM roycroft: yeah, i just want to make sure i can use the scanner
03:32 PM roycroft: and you're right - it's still a great deal no matter what
03:33 PM roycroft: i'm not trying to talk you down on price
03:33 PM roycroft: just trying to find out if the scanner will fit my needs
03:33 PM xxcoder: yeah, just telling you I dont worry lol
03:34 PM roycroft: i've emailed them asking about the software
03:35 PM xxcoder: hopefully its still supported
03:37 PM roycroft: does it have any or all of the document mat, finger cots, side lights, foot pedal?
03:39 PM xxcoder: 18535 ms latency wheee
03:40 PM xxcoder: foot pedal im not sure but everything else should be in yeah. not sure if "et16 standard" has light attachment
03:40 PM roycroft: boeing must be doing a simulation of how to cut costs and still not have the plane blow up very often, and are consuming all the bandwidth in the sea-tac area
03:42 PM xxcoder: lol
03:43 PM xxcoder: wifi is very very noisy here
03:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lol.. i just watched the bambu run out of fillament.. i have never seen fillament move so fast
03:44 PM roycroft: ok, i found the software for the et16 (not plus)
03:45 PM xxcoder: opened box up, dont look like it has power source? which isnt good news
03:46 PM xxcoder: it has pedal and hand clicker for taking pictures
03:47 PM xxcoder: seems can buy one online thankfully
03:48 PM xxcoder: will cut price a bit to tke account of that
03:48 PM xxcoder: it has both old and newer finger cots
03:52 PM xxcoder: ok it has no light attachment, not surpised as pro is one that adds it I think. only power plug is missing
03:53 PM xxcoder: the head have lights if I recall right, been years since last used it
04:05 PM roycroft: yes, there is a light built into the head
04:05 PM roycroft: i'll see if the side light attachment fits the original et16
04:05 PM roycroft: the side light is good when scanning books - it lights up both sides more evenly than the one built into the head
04:06 PM roycroft: it looks like the software for the et16 has the curve flattening feature
04:06 PM xxcoder: it does
04:19 PM * JT-Shop takes 5 and listens to Ra Ngol Ra Hang
04:26 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, how's the build going?
04:28 PM JT-Shop: got some of the wiring logic sorted out for the drives, laying out the components on the subpanel, getting the steel to make the enclosure stand tomorrow
04:28 PM Tom_L: do you have to rewire the whole thing or can use some of the exhisting wiring?
04:29 PM Tom_L: to the equipment
04:29 PM JT-Shop: I plan on pulling new power wires to the motors and the remote stations
04:29 PM JT-Shop: I'll use a 480v feed that is there
04:32 PM Tom_L: probably best to avoid any unforseen problems
04:32 PM JT-Shop: lol
04:33 PM Tom_L: i was at a chuch once where they were rewiring the church organ that got blown out because of incorrect wiring
04:33 PM JT-Shop: that happens a lot
04:33 PM Tom_L: somebody prior had wired a pannel wrong
04:34 PM JT-Shop: my other brother John was working on a school light and they switched the neutral... it was quite shocking
04:36 PM Tom_L: i bet
04:38 PM JT-Shop: went to get the alignment on the C3 and the lower ball joints are original and worn out so I'm rebuilding the whole front suspension
04:38 PM Tom_L: i kinda saw that coming
04:38 PM Tom_L: based on it's service record with the brakes etc
04:38 PM JT-Shop: there's no point in not doing while it's apart
04:38 PM Tom_L: nope
04:40 PM JT-Shop: about $500 in parts to completely rebuild it with ball joints, control arm bushings, shocks, springs, tie rod ends, idler arm, sway bar bushings and I'm prob fogetting something
04:42 PM Tom_L: not too bad
04:43 PM Tom_L: i chalkline the center of the tires before and after to get it in the ballpark
04:43 PM JT-Shop: good quality parts too like moog
04:43 PM Tom_L: yup
04:43 PM Tom_L: then you can take it wherever to be done
04:43 PM JT-Shop: ?
04:44 PM Tom_L: measure the front and rear centerline of the tires
04:44 PM Tom_L: just to get in the ballpark
04:44 PM JT-Shop: ah yeah I have a guy that does alignments that I take it to
04:44 PM Tom_L: right, this is just to get close
04:45 PM JT-Shop: yup just get the toe in somewhat close and the rest is up to Jerry
04:48 PM Tom_L: i had an impalla once the rear was off so far they had to slot the frame to get it close
04:48 PM JT-Shop: holy crap
04:49 PM Tom_L: i don't think i'd ever been wrecked
04:49 PM JT-Shop: the upper control arms don't have any shims and Jerry was concerned
04:49 PM Tom_L: one was a driver's ed car when they closed the program and got a super deal on it
04:49 PM Tom_L: the boys drove those until they got their hondas
04:50 PM Tom_L: wound up trading one and giving one to a niece
04:50 PM Tom_L: afik she's still driving it
04:54 PM JT-Shop: time to go work on the C3
05:06 PM roycroft: i am going to start painting shop walls in about 2 minutes
05:10 PM * JT-Shop watches videos on removing tie rod ends
05:12 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lol
05:13 PM JT-Shop: https://youtu.be/qlDQsiwxKAs?t=411
05:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> the best thing I learned was hitting the side of the steering knucle with a hammer.. the taper pops out
05:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> but I suppose your suspention knuckle is aluminum..
05:16 PM xxcoder: what not brass duster?
05:18 PM JT-Shop: steering knuckle?
05:21 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/gwkaKUxrDgWphYIIsPUNJhDN/1000002520.jpg
05:21 PM Tom_L: you have a 'fork' to remove them right?
05:21 PM Tom_L: wedge the fork between the joint and beat the crap out of it
05:22 PM Tom_L: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/y7IAAOSwHxhkwbs8/s-l650.jpg
05:24 PM Tom_L: makes life alot easier
05:26 PM Tom_L: i got a one time kit for the A arm bushings from HF.. it worked for me one time :)
05:26 PM Tom_L: which was enough
05:35 PM Tom_L: or get their fancy tool :)
05:35 PM Tom_L: but
05:36 PM Tom_L: if they've been on there a long time, they'll need that 'shock' to pop loose
05:37 PM JT-Shop: I don't have a pickle fork
05:37 PM Tom_L: it makes it much easier
05:37 PM Tom_L: you can try a fairly good size ball peen hammer and hit the side, but that doens't always work
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: pickle fork works like magic.
05:38 PM JT-Shop: looks like pittsburg has one at hf for $20
05:38 PM Tom_L: for that stuff HF is fine
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> got a Harbor frieght ???
05:38 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:39 PM Tom_L: or you can come get mine... i don't plan on doing any front end work
05:39 PM JT-Shop: easier and faster to go to horrible freight
05:39 PM Tom_L: :)
05:39 PM Tom_L: get a rough idea of fit..
05:40 PM Tom_L: they make more than one size
05:40 PM JT-Shop: prob shock the arm with double hammer blows and use some penatrating oil
05:40 PM Tom_L: you can try that
05:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I got one years ago for my Benz
05:40 PM JT-Shop: pickle forks?
05:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yup
05:40 PM Tom_L: try shocking it... might save ya a trip
05:40 PM Tom_L: if you got enough room for a decent swing at it
05:41 PM JT-Shop: shock is out just need to get the ball joint off
05:41 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: are you replacing the ball joint? if yes, heat helps..... but only if you're replacing
05:41 PM JT-Shop: complete front end rebuild
05:42 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> thought you are working...?
05:42 PM Tom_L: 2nd shift
05:42 PM JT-Shop: https://youtu.be/qlDQsiwxKAs?t=634
05:42 PM Tom_L: saw that one
05:43 PM Tom_L: be careful with the springs
05:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Wack the side where the taper of the ball joint goes through
05:44 PM JT-Shop: there seems to be a flat spot where you wack it
05:44 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> you could also back up the other side with a maul.
05:45 PM Tom_L: i was gonna suggest that too
05:45 PM Tom_L: i've never had to
05:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> it usually comes out pretty easy. I have done it a ton now. It really beats a pickle fork or pounding on the nut end
05:45 PM Tom_L: i've done it both ways, with the hammer alone and the fork
05:46 PM Tom_L: yeah, don't beat on the nut
05:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> if you are re-using the ball joint - a pickle fork kinda destroys it.
05:46 PM JT-Shop: all new
05:46 PM Tom_L: he's getting new parts
05:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> I am just saying - I have done bearings where I wanted to re-use the ball ends..
05:47 PM Tom_L: if you had an air 'hammer' that might work too
05:47 PM Tom_L: mine isn't big enough for that type of stuff
05:47 PM JT-Shop: all the parts "could" be 42 years old so better to just have a new base line
05:48 PM JT-Shop: I know the lower ball joints are 42 years old
05:48 PM Tom_L: what about the A arm bushings?
05:48 PM Tom_L: changing those too?
05:49 PM JT-Shop: yup control arm bushings will be new
05:49 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
05:50 PM rdtsc: I was just going to say "air hammer = quick work"
05:50 PM Tom_L: be damn careful around the springs
05:51 PM Tom_L: it's actually a good idea to have the shock at least hanging there when you take those out
05:51 PM Tom_L: so they don't end up on the other side of the wall
05:53 PM JT-Shop: Les Cartel Postales Sonores
05:55 PM JT-Shop: Cartes
05:57 PM JT-Shop: https://lescartespostalessonores.bandcamp.com/track/ra-ngol-ra-hang
06:04 PM JT-Shop: upper ball joint is loose
06:05 PM JT-Shop: 3 wacks with a 20 oz ball peen
06:06 PM Tom_L: cool
06:06 PM Tom_L: A arms won't be quite as easy
06:07 PM JT-Shop: the control arm bushings?
06:07 PM Tom_L: ball joints
06:07 PM Tom_L: you'll need to press the bushings
06:07 PM JT-Shop: the upper control arm ball joint is what I just got loose
06:07 PM Tom_L: oh
06:07 PM Tom_L: nice
06:08 PM JT-Shop: I think I'll pop the lower control arm ball joint loose the same way or at least try
06:08 PM Tom_L: may as well
06:08 PM JT-Shop: loosen the nut a couple of turns and wack it :)
06:08 PM Tom_L: yup
06:09 PM Tom_L: you got lucky so far
06:09 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:14 PM JT-Shop: so far nothing seems difficult to do just need to think about each step
06:15 PM * JT-Shop calls it a day
06:16 PM Tom_L: unless they decide to be stubborn, no it's not difficult
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07:32 PM roycroft: you know, one of the big problems with this tetris shop finishing is that when i am painting small sections at a time, it takes longer to do the setup and cleanup than to do the actual painting
07:32 PM roycroft: especially the primer, which is oil-based
07:39 PM roycroft: teri garr has left the building :(
07:51 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> woof
07:52 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> "but what did you get from the monster?"
08:04 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
08:15 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> https://pine64.com/product/yuzuki-avaota-a1-single-board-computer-4gb-32gb/is the ARM to RISC-V connected via serial, SPI or??
08:24 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.@discord> https://pine64.com/product/yuzuki-avaota-a1-single-board-computer-4gb-32gb/
08:47 PM Tom_L: 404 on the 1st one
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08:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/TxvMrhgKIkGsyvgUAnjWskfx/PXL_20241030_013758586.jpg
08:56 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Going for 501st?
08:56 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> shoretrooper.. (is that the 501st?)
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> LOL, 501st Star Wars Villain costuming group
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> lol
08:57 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> nope
08:58 PM xxcoder: gonna love using discord to catch upo what I missed when I was unable to connect
08:58 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Regardless, the shoretrooper looks good so far!
08:58 PM xxcoder: amazing progress on that skunk
08:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> Yes - we ran out of time - but - it will work
08:58 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> We started way too late
09:01 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/fvAYLTfALLvagqffjCZSbeJR/20191026180937_IMG_5775.png
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> That is awesome!
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Thank you!
09:02 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> my son just got excited.. 😉
09:02 PM xxcoder: nice!
09:03 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Glad he enjoyed it!
09:03 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Thanks!
09:03 PM xxcoder: any of you ever tried openwrt?
09:03 PM xxcoder: if so, you guys know default password? I found a few but none worked
09:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> yes
09:04 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> I considered it, but ended up going with pfsense
09:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> uh.. I don't remember.
09:05 PM xxcoder: np :) in in their irc trying to find out
09:05 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> Google claims it is blank
09:06 PM xxcoder: https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-quick-start/walkthrough_login
09:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> root and blank?
09:06 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> but the user is root.. If that threw you off
09:06 PM xxcoder: ill check stuff out later. dont feel like doing it today
09:06 PM xxcoder: yeah root all tried
09:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> it turned a linksys into a decently working router..
09:07 PM roycroft: i recently installed openwrt on a rpi and there was no default password - i had to set it on my first login
09:08 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841@discord> it sucked before that. Little things like if I rebooted the router - I had to also reboot the cable modem before it would connect to the internet. The second I switched to openwrt - that problem went away
09:16 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> That is the thing, most off the shelf home routers really have pretty terrible software on them with very infrequent updates, but good looking interfaces so most people will over-look those issues.
09:17 PM xxcoder: the repeator I have is basically joke
09:17 PM xxcoder: didnt really work at all, so tried openwrt
09:17 PM xxcoder: I didnt get to see much of it yet
09:18 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> I haven't played around with openwrt, but for many of the same reasons, plus just wanting more functionality for establishing a home lab/server setup, I moved to pfsense
09:18 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> And I use tplink Omada APs for mesh WIFI
09:20 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> I also blame LinuxCNC as the cause of the time and money I have in my home lab, lol
09:24 PM lcnc-relay: <mikemader@discord> I had used Linux quite a bit back in college which was quite. Life happened, and my Linux machines got put in a closet. 20 years and a divorce later, I finish my CNC build, and playing with Linux and LinuxCNC I remembered how much fun I had with it back then. One basic linux server to have fun with has now turned into 4 Proxmox servers, lol.
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09:45 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
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