#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 12 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
08:27 AM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> i have my second CT scan scheduled in 2 weeks, and they still have not told me what they found in the first to warrant a second...
08:40 AM skunkworks: yes
08:40 AM Tom_L: and the other is the probe tip
08:40 AM skunkworks: right
08:40 AM Tom_L: ok thanks
08:40 AM Tom_L: the routines don't edit any values do they?
08:41 AM Tom_L: just move to position and display the debug message?
08:41 AM skunkworks: yes
08:41 AM Tom_L: cool
08:42 AM Tom_L: i was thinking of putting the probe tip value in an ini section so it would be easy to modify for different tips
08:42 AM skunkworks: I am pretty sure that is 1/2 probe diameter too - But I would have to check
08:42 AM Tom_L: so maybe he had a 6mm tip?
08:42 AM Tom_L: which seems awfully bit
08:42 AM skunkworks: pretty sure
08:42 AM Tom_L: big
08:43 AM skunkworks: My big probe is 5 I think..
08:43 AM Tom_L: i just don't have a probe to test with
08:43 AM skunkworks: I am home - so I can check. Just going to be a bit
08:43 AM Tom_L: iirc didn't he have a larger cnc too?
08:43 AM skunkworks: yes - moriseki jr
08:43 AM Tom_L: that makes more sense then
08:44 AM skunkworks: because I am pretty sure I have 2.5 in the gcode
08:44 AM Tom_L: a mini mill wouldn't want a 6mm tip
08:44 AM skunkworks: lol - the green machine is using a renishaw probe with a 2mm tip I think.. or maybe 1
08:44 AM Tom_L: most tips are metric aren't they?
08:44 AM Tom_L: you're spoiled like that
08:44 AM skunkworks: I haven't seen many - but they have all been etric
08:44 AM skunkworks: metric
08:45 AM Tom_L: same here
08:45 AM rdtsc-wk: Travis, they love to run the CT machine; I had two recently also, and a MRI. Better to know and not have to worry, suppose.
08:46 AM Tom_L: ok i'm goin to the shop and see if i can remember how to add a button to the side pannel
08:50 AM rdtsc-wk: probe dia (mm) <-- use with -[dia/2]/25.4] or... probe dia (in) <-- use with -[dia/2] or... make them enter the probe radius
08:51 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> sure - I think he through those routines together and they worked and never were touched.. 🙂
08:51 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It should be a parameter at the top of the program somwhere
08:52 AM rdtsc-wk: For reference SW: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/touch_probe_sim/subroutines/
08:52 AM skunkworks: lol - microsoft seems to be having problems.. our office365 is acting goofy.. (we have maybe 10 users on it)
08:54 AM rdtsc-wk: mrec was having an impossible time with them getting a cert signed or something like that... ended up pulling everything and cutting all contact
08:55 AM skunkworks: https://downdetector.com/status/microsoft-365/
08:56 AM skunkworks: I have started just looking there..
08:56 AM skunkworks: kids where having problems connecting to minecraft the other day.. Checked there first before going down the rabit hole..
08:56 AM rdtsc-wk: 24k reports in the last 24k wow
08:57 AM rdtsc-wk: er 24h
08:58 AM skunkworks: reddit is talking about at&t fiber being the issue
08:59 AM mrec: rdtsc-wk: someone from microsoft reached out to us, they're super slow but seems like they're looking at it
09:00 AM mrec: not sure who initially handled our ticket but the response really looked like AI generated
09:01 AM mrec: we're fully authorised in their scam partner portal yet still nothing works the links are missing in the workspace (I know the actual links but they just throw me back to the main overview).
09:03 AM mrec: I just want them to cross sign a windows driver that's all, I don't want to join their scam certificate programs or even become a partner
09:04 AM mrec: I'm happy with Linux and MacOS
09:05 AM rdtsc-wk: well that does sound like a pretty complex request (for a front-desk agent to receive - perhaps they did initially push the "AI Handle This" button, lol
09:06 AM mrec: they have automatised that, the problem is that the hardware program doesn't show up for us
09:06 AM mrec: basically just a flag in the database ... user has access to it yes or no.
09:08 AM mrec: https://youtu.be/pdCHRd1nasg
09:09 AM mrec: they aren't deleting entries from their database, they're possibly just flagging it as deleted some pages in the website use it others don't and that's the problem.
09:11 AM rdtsc-wk: well I hope they get it straightened out
09:12 AM mrec: I'm not putting any time into it anymore, back then I spent 3 days on it for something that shouldn't even take 10 minutes
09:13 AM rdtsc-wk: Just needs to get in the hands of somebody whom actually understands the system and knows what to do.
09:14 AM mrec: we'll see, I have other things to do sealing the waycovers of our CNC tomorrow. A guy from castrol came to our place they can do a full service about everything oil related (quoted 200$ ... cheap)
09:16 AM mrec: that machine was idle and defect for 4 years, time make some chips with it again
09:23 AM Tom_L: ok buttons added
09:30 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, does errors_pte read in debug messages too?
09:31 AM Tom_L: doesn't look like it
09:32 AM JT-Cave: no
09:33 AM Tom_L: i was getting messages back from probe but now i see they were 'error' instead of 'debug'
09:33 AM Tom_L: it does show 'info'
09:35 AM Tom_L: i bet my debug is off in that ini config
09:35 AM Tom_L: 'info' being a debug message in the subroutine
09:36 AM Tom_L: mmm they're set the same
09:38 AM Tom_L: odd
09:41 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/probe_test1.png
09:41 AM Tom_L: those are debug messages from the subroutine
09:42 AM Tom_L: but i can't seem to get them on in the rpi config
09:43 AM Tom_L: both were set with DEBUG = 0
09:48 AM JT-Shop: debug in the ini has nothing to do with using the debug print function
09:48 AM Tom_L: it's working now
09:48 AM JT-Shop: DEBUG = 0 - Debug level 0 means no messages will be printed when LinuxCNC is run from a terminal. Debug flags are usually only useful to developers. See src/emc/nml_intf/debugflags.h for other settings.
09:49 AM Tom_L: that's what i figured
09:49 AM Tom_L: not sure what was causing it
09:49 AM Tom_L: but it's working on both now
09:49 AM JT-Shop: (DEBUG, value = %d#<some_value>)
09:49 AM Tom_L: right
09:50 AM JT-Shop: time to clean chicken shit before the rains get here
09:50 AM Tom_L: if you put that in a sub it would print: info value = %d#<some_value>
09:50 AM Tom_L: with the ()
09:51 AM Tom_L: cradek relied on that to inform the user about the offsets
09:57 AM Tom_L: 'msg' also is valid for that
10:05 AM JT-Cave: msg doesn't evaluate a variable
10:05 AM JT-Cave: only debug does that
10:05 AM JT-Cave: In the DEBUG, PRINT and LOG comments, the values of parameters in the message are expanded.
10:13 AM Tom_L: right but it would display it
10:14 AM Tom_L: bbl
11:10 AM he1 is now known as hel
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11:12 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/hWHZZGILcmJlLypgvuritebJ/Screenshot_2024-09-12_105124.png
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11:48 AM rdtsc-wk: What the heck as you attempting SW? There'll be no torque at high speeds
11:49 AM rdtsc-wk: And the armature current will go way up
12:29 PM rdtsc-wk: Intel's taking one hell of a gamble, going all-in on AI chip development, still, in the midst of the 13th and 14th-gen CPU debacle which has _severely_ hurt them. They've laid off 10k! Are they too big to fail? Not so sure; CEO recently got a 46% raise to 16 million and THAT hasn't been touched of course. Will greed be their undoing?
12:37 PM Tom_L: nobody is too big to fail it just takes time
12:48 PM Tom_L: so if the coordinate system say G54 starts at 5221 and there are 10 locations but G55 starts at 5241 skipping 20 locations what are the 10 locations between those used for?
12:48 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> purgatory
12:51 PM JT-Cave: all the coordinate systems start 20 from the last one so I assume they just left room for more axes
12:51 PM Tom_L: could be
12:52 PM JT-Cave: must be nap time
12:52 PM Tom_L: getting close
02:19 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> wdtsc-wk: The original monarch 10ee spindle motor.. This is how they got it to go though the whole rpm.. Field weakening..
02:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> and you can't 'gasp' do this without the original tube motor generator circuit..
02:21 PM rdtsc-wk: lol nice... 900-some RPM at 100% torque... is that like a 10-pole motor or something? very unusual
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it is a brushed open frame rather large motor..
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> with wound field coils
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.bedair.org/Monarch/IMG_1953.JPG
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> not mine.. but it looks exactly like that
02:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 2hp lol
02:25 PM rdtsc-wk: Oh it's geared, well belted, that explains it. Sure don't make 'em like that anymore
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/cTevIfNjmSwlIUfeSNfdAvet/PXL_20230618_200637796.MP.jpg
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> oh - 3hp
03:29 PM rdtsc-wk: p.s. you'll get the most usable power when armature and fields are 1.0 obviously - might help for some niche job
03:29 PM rdtsc-wk: Think the oshpark boards came Tom; will be assembling a 7c80 power latch tonight.
03:36 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> sure - anything above or below about 950 rpm is going to be less power
05:03 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbD_WTlDJg
05:13 PM Tom_L: hah got some change back today and one coin says Queen Elisabeth brittish caribbean 1957 on it
05:13 PM JT-Shop: I thought you didn't have a probe...
05:13 PM Tom_L: ya do what ya gotta do
05:13 PM JT-Shop: :)
05:14 PM Tom_L: i'll test the tool touch off once i get it set up
05:14 PM Tom_L: i had to edit the retract distances for that long ass travel switch
05:16 PM JT-Shop: I got some 1/4" vacuum tubing and it turns out I need some 3/8"
05:16 PM Tom_L: for?
05:16 PM JT-Shop: headlights on the 82
05:16 PM Tom_L: oh
05:17 PM Tom_L: that's keepin you a bit preoccupied lately
05:17 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:17 PM JT-Shop: ordered front calipers and pads and hoses today
05:17 PM Tom_L: i thought you already had em
05:17 PM Tom_L: set of 4
05:17 PM Tom_L: guess it was a set of 2
05:17 PM JT-Shop: did the rears first
05:18 PM JT-Shop: there is one newish and one that looks like it's 42 years old and they can't make up their mind how much braking they provide
05:18 PM JT-Shop: sometimes it pulls a tad to the left sometimes not
05:21 PM JT-Shop: interesting maybe but the headlights are down when vacuum is on the control valve and up with no vacuum
05:22 PM Tom_L: maybe a safety default
05:24 PM JT-Shop: sounds plausible, there is a bypass valve to stop the vacuum with the headlights off to repair lights
05:27 PM JT-Shop: a guy on the C3 forum sent me a bunch of info on vacuum systems and other stuff
05:28 PM Tom_L: does that have a vacuum reservoir for the headlights?
05:29 PM JT-Shop: yup looks like a 303 can lol
05:29 PM Tom_L: if not they might pop partway up idling at a light :)
05:33 PM JT-Shop: took a bit of head scratching to figure out the vacuum routing lol
05:33 PM Tom_L: i bet
05:35 PM JT-Shop: when it finally clicked it all made sense
05:36 PM Tom_L: oh, that probe test was run on that very latest RTAI memleak built
05:36 PM JT-Shop: cool
05:36 PM Tom_L: i think memleak and ntulinux are the same
05:41 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> yup
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05:52 PM Tom_dev: Linux bookworm 5.4.279-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 9 19:17:37 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux
06:07 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> JT-Shop: thank you!
06:08 PM JT-Shop: did you order the 7i97t?
06:20 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Yes
06:21 PM JT-Shop: thank you!
06:21 PM JT-Shop: for some reason paypal didn't process it until sometime today
06:21 PM JT-Shop: I've had that happen a few times
06:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> That is ok.. it is more of an experiment... I have a 7i77 - bit the 7i97 is so much more convenient
06:24 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> But
06:25 PM JT-Shop: cool
06:26 PM * JT-Shop calls it a day
06:40 PM Unterhaus_ is now known as Unterhausen
06:40 PM Unterhausen: I have a wrist off of a robot with 2 harmonic gearboxes, but I have no idea how it goes back together
07:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> lol
07:01 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> just wing it - that is what I do
07:44 PM Tom_L: JT-Cave, there should be a jog override in case an axis gets jammed
08:05 PM _unreal_: I gave up on freecad a long time go
08:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It is definitely better than it used to be
09:02 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away
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