#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 13 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:50 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:08 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:19 AM Tom_L: morning
05:20 AM nospark: I'm having problems with a gantry racking....
05:20 AM nospark: is there a way to move joints individually after homing?
05:21 AM JT-Cave: unhome
05:22 AM nospark: what about using the hal?
05:23 AM nospark: can I manually override using joint.0.motor-pos-cmd?
05:26 AM JT-Cave: you will prob get a following error
05:26 AM JT-Cave: why not just rehome the gantry to get it square?
05:32 AM nospark: I am racking it while trying to get it to home, and I don't know why it is racking
05:33 AM nospark: the home switches are out by less than 1mm
05:42 AM Deejay: hi
05:45 AM nospark: hi
05:49 AM JT-Cave: gantry homing should turn both motors at the same speed if one is falling behind that sounds like a mechanical issue
05:50 AM nospark: It is a bug (kinda)
05:51 AM nospark: what was happening is that one home switch would touch first, and then move away in the oppisite direction, while the second axis continued to seek home
05:52 AM nospark: I would have thought that after repeated homing attempts, the axis would self equalise, but each failure was making the problem worse
05:53 AM nospark: (I mean a bug in my config, not in lcnc
06:00 AM JT-Cave: yup that sounds like a bug in the config homing directions
06:00 AM * JT-Cave prepares to ride after not finding a clear metric chip load formula
06:04 AM JT-Cave: nospark, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtWNuLWfwc this is how it should work
06:06 AM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> glad my gantry has just one ballscrew 🙂
06:19 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/feed_calc2.jpg
06:48 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, .001" chip load = .3937mm chip load.
06:49 AM Tom_L: .001 * 39.37 = .03937
06:49 AM Tom_L: i was off one place....typo
06:52 AM Tom_L: and vise versa.. .03937mm * .0254 =.0009999" or .001
06:57 AM Tom_L: rpm & time are constant
06:58 AM Tom_L: nice t-storm this am
07:13 AM Tom_L: https://conversion.org/speed/inches-per-minute/millimetre-per-minute
07:14 AM Tom_L: feedrate conversion
07:52 AM mozmck: Hi pcw-home: real time, and local. The data needs to be bi-directional and it may vary in length, but I can use fixed length packets of sufficient size.
07:52 AM mozmck: skunkworks: Hi!
08:42 AM skunkworks: mozmck: How is it going?
08:52 AM mozmck: skunkworks: going well! How are things with you?
08:56 AM skunkworks: Oh - keeping busy as always..
08:56 AM mozmck: Same here. We moved a few years ago and have been building house ever since.
08:56 AM skunkworks: oh - where to?
08:57 AM mozmck: just a couple hours east of where we were - mt pleasant tx area
08:57 AM skunkworks: still working were you worked?
08:57 AM mozmck: Yep!
08:58 AM skunkworks: Neat! Last I remeber you guys created your own gui - still using it?
08:58 AM skunkworks: lol - or I might be remembering wrong.
09:00 AM JT-Cave: yup I know how to convert back and forth from metric to inch but was hoping to just find the formula for metric for chip load as the feed and chip load are different units than inch
09:01 AM mozmck: Yes, I recently went through and updated to 2.9 from 2.7. That was a chore!
09:02 AM JT-Cave: my after ride epiphany is to convert the usual meters per minute to mm per min
09:02 AM skunkworks: mozmck: very cool!
09:02 AM skunkworks: mozmck: you should look at what jt and tom are doing with flexgui
09:03 AM mozmck: I actually just made my own homing component because the default one handles gantries very poorly.
09:04 AM mozmck: I've seen it talked about here a bit but haven't had time to really look into it more. It does look interesting though!
09:05 AM skunkworks: I thought gantry homing was baked into linuxcnc now.
09:05 AM mozmck: It is, but I consider it a bit half-baked :-)
09:06 AM skunkworks: ah - I don't know if I have ever played with it.
09:07 AM mozmck: Basically, when homing an axis with two joints and home switches, each move should be synchronized. So when a home switch on one side is activated, that side should stop until the other side switch is found.
09:08 AM mozmck: Then it can go to the next step to move off the switches and etc. The baked in method ONLY synchronizes the final move to home position. In practice this means each side can be moving in opposite directions at the same time.
09:08 AM mozmck: If you have switches with a long throw this can rack the gantry pretty badly.
09:09 AM skunkworks: then your gantry isn't wiggly enough..
09:09 AM skunkworks: ;)
09:12 AM mozmck: :-) After racking an inch or so the motor stalls on this one.
09:15 AM skunkworks: maybe something to talk to dewey about it?
09:15 AM skunkworks: I guess or open a bug if there isn't one
09:16 AM JT-Cave: I thought that's how homing worked the first one to find a switch stops
09:16 AM JT-Cave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtWNuLWfwc
09:23 AM mozmck: JT-Cave: that was with the old gantry component :-) The new stuff in 2.9 does not work like that but the first motor would immediately start backing off the switch. Some switches with long arms have a good distance bewteen on and off.
09:23 AM JT-Cave: holy crap that's bad
09:24 AM mozmck: That was exactly my thought :-)
09:24 AM skunkworks: JT-Cave: I thought that was baked in gantry homing in your video? no?
09:24 AM JT-Cave: we seem to get more and more problems introduced by folks
09:24 AM mozmck: My new homing component basically just takes the new stuff and modifies it to wait for the other joint at each state where a new move is started.
09:25 AM skunkworks: oh - your discription does say gantry componant..
09:25 AM mozmck: The code is a bit complex but I think my solution is pretty much universal.
09:26 AM * JT-Cave wonders why anyone would want to screw up gantry homing
09:26 AM JT-Cave: when it worked perfectly
09:28 AM mozmck: Apparently people are using it ok, but I'm sure they probably have a better switch setup and etc. The thing that makes it hard is making the code generic enough to handle various machine setups. So theoretically you could have 4 joints on an axis and it work and etc.
09:30 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, are you trying to combine units to one calc or keep them separate?
09:33 AM JT-Cave: https://gdptooling.com/chipload-calc/
09:33 AM JT-Cave: trying to verify my metric chip load formula
09:34 AM Tom_L: verify with your calipers mm/in button
09:35 AM Tom_L: that calculator isn't giving you a per tooth chip load but an overall cutter load
09:37 AM Tom_L: and if you switch between in/mm and don't refresh the screen the result is wrong
09:39 AM JT-Cave: I get different results from different online calculators...
09:39 AM JT-Cave: https://www.mitsubishicarbide.net/contents/mmus/enus/html/product/technical_information/information/formula2.html
09:39 AM JT-Cave: I 'think' that ones correct
09:40 AM Tom_L: chipload is the forward movement of the cutter for one flute
09:40 AM Tom_L: the forward movement is easy to translate between units
09:42 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/chipload1.png
09:45 AM Tom_L: 60ipmin is 1524mm/min
09:45 AM Tom_L: viewed as a feedrate
09:48 AM Tom_L: SFM is just RPM * Diam / the industrial accepted constant: 3.82
09:53 AM JT-Cave: yeah got the inch stuff ok
09:53 AM rdtsc-wk: Freedom Units
09:54 AM Tom_L: i was trying to figure out a way to enter a value or have it calculated in a single input box
09:54 AM Tom_L: for whichever units
09:55 AM Tom_L: depending on if i entered a feedrate or a chipload
09:56 AM Tom_L: my excel skilz suck
09:58 AM Tom_L: i updated feedcalc2 a bit
09:59 AM Tom_L: i'd have to do a function to get what i want but haven't done that
10:00 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/tooldata2.jpg
10:00 AM Tom_L: i can change any value there and the others update
10:00 AM rdtsc-wk: https://www.converttobananas.com
10:01 AM Tom_L: units are set elsewhere in the tool data
10:01 AM Tom_L: but not translated
10:01 AM Tom_L: if you had an IN/MM button just make 2 sets of formula inputs as the formula is the same
10:03 AM Tom_L: iirc zplunge defaults to .5 the normal rate but can be overridden
10:04 AM JT-Cave: feed rate not done
10:04 AM Tom_L: ok
10:11 AM Tom_L: which side shows the result?
10:12 AM Tom_L: change the feed and the cl doesn't update
10:13 AM Tom_L: you're getting there
10:13 AM Tom_L: sfm looks right
10:14 AM Tom_L: watching the terminal i see what's going on which is what i probably would have done
10:14 AM Tom_L: where one updates the other
10:16 AM Tom_L: i don't know how to do that with qt or python
10:22 AM JT-Cave: for now you have to use the calculate buttons
10:22 AM Tom_L: yeah i looked at the py and see where you're at with it now :)
10:23 AM JT-Cave: when the formulas are all proven out the the magic can begin
10:23 AM Tom_L: i never got into chip thinning calcs
10:24 AM Tom_L: machinist's handbook could verify them probably
10:25 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/calcs/metric1.jpg
10:25 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/calcs/inch1.jpg
10:26 AM Tom_L: forgot i saved that
10:28 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> whatcha working on?
10:28 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> feeds and speeds calculator?
10:29 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> Tom_L: JT-Cave ?
10:58 AM Unterhausen: does probebasic have a discord or some other channel to offer help?
10:59 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> Unterhausen: yes, its the main QtPyVCP chat
10:59 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> QtPyVCP
10:59 AM lcnc-relay: #qtpyvcp:matrix.org
11:06 AM Unterhausen: okay, thanks
11:15 AM JT-Cave: lcvette I
11:16 AM JT-Cave: 'm learning how to embed other python programs into flex and tom suggested a feed n speed calculator
11:17 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> o/
11:17 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> nice
11:17 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> hows flex coming along?
11:17 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> get the backplotter sorted?
11:18 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Screens/mill_3_plot.png
11:19 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> nice!
11:20 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> is that the stock linuxcnc plotter?
11:20 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> 😲
11:28 AM JT-Cave: pretty much with some changes to use pyqt6 and delete a bunch of useless code
11:29 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> Unterhausen: we also have a facebook group/chat
11:33 AM Unterhausen: what's that called?
11:40 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> https://m.me/ch/AbY0S0wQv83WgA-x/
11:41 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> Unterhausen: ^^^
11:45 AM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/misc.html
11:50 AM lcnc-relay: <Lcvette> JT-Cave: nice! looking good!!
11:56 AM JT-Shop: thanks
12:32 PM JT-Cave: nap time
12:39 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> nap time? but i was just going to get the party started... 😉
12:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Party on Garth...
12:41 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> lol, took a minute to remember that reference 😉
12:49 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:35 PM rdtsc-wk: https://www.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/photos/426329875/display_1500/stock-vector-simple-cartoon-of-sheep-jump-over-the-moon-426329875.jpg
01:41 PM roycroft: that first sheep looks a lot like harold
01:41 PM roycroft: he's that most dangerous of animals - the clever sheep
01:41 PM roycroft: he's the ringleader
01:51 PM JT-Shop: my s10 screen and case has arrived at Bellville Il 3 times now...
01:52 PM JT-Shop: and there's no reason for it to leave St Louis and go to Bellville...
01:56 PM rdtsc-wk: logistics "optimization"
01:56 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> roycroft: what do ya think of these https://www.winebarrelchairs.com/adirondack-chair/
01:58 PM xxcoder: interesting
02:01 PM JT-Shop: no good for us we don't use stem wine glasses :)
02:02 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> we use mason jars
02:02 PM JT-Shop: we're not that fancy :)
02:03 PM xxcoder: mugs cut out of rocks, rough hewn?
02:04 PM JT-Shop: https://www.winebarrelchairs.com/wine-bottle-balancer/
02:04 PM xxcoder: fancy
02:21 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> the cnc cookbook guy is pretty anti-linuxcnc - or used to be
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> not surprised, LCNC is for commie socialists
02:22 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> how they see it anyway
02:23 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> skunkworks8841 Great Success on the tower!!!
02:27 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Thanks!
02:27 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.cnccookbook.com/10-features-pros-hobby-cnc-controllers-dont/
02:27 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> seb even replied to that post lol
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> yeah, I have left many sales engineers speechless when I get into the nitty gritty
02:31 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> they don't know how to respond to anything out of the ordinary
02:33 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> tommylight on the forums has similar experiences
02:34 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> most people still think that LCNC needs a LPT port to run
02:35 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> what I have actually discovered by drawing people out is that they don't read the docs and don't spend the time to configure the machine
02:36 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> they are also shocked to find out that Mach is actually a closed source fork of LCNC
02:40 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> is Mach really a spin-off of LCNC?
02:40 PM JT-Cave: yes
02:40 PM JT-Cave: actually EMC
02:40 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> hmmm, didn't know that...
02:41 PM * JT-Cave goes back to mailbox wood working
02:53 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Travis Farmer https://www.machsupport.com/about-us/
02:53 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/emc-history.html
02:55 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> but i didn't think you could get a realtime windows
02:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://web.archive.org/web/20120417094958/http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/documents/shackleford/4191_05.pdf
02:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Mach doesn't use realtime Windows
02:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> There are real time patches for Winders kernels
02:56 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> we were doing it in the early 90's
02:56 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> hmm, and all this time i was making fun of the Mach users...
02:56 PM roycroft: i believe it's a fork of emc that barely resembles the original code now
02:57 PM roycroft: i should clarify - i know it's a fork of emc, but i believe it barely resembles the original code now
02:58 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> does Mach also connect to Mesa hardware?
03:00 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> I don't think so
03:01 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> most mach hardware is USB or LPT
03:01 PM roycroft: i'm almsot certain it does not
03:01 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> ahh, so thats why i make fun of them... USB hardware 😉
03:01 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> i haven't looked at Mach4 much but they were trying to be able to do rigid tapping with closed loop control
03:01 PM * roycroft doesn't make fun of people generally - he just ignores them :)
03:02 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> i do so semi-privatly, roycroft 😉
03:02 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> roycrofts mother smells of elderberries
03:02 PM roycroft: you can make fune of me now, though
03:03 PM roycroft: i just finished installing the side panels on my metal shed, following the instructions exactly
03:03 PM roycroft: but all the while wondering about the hole in the middle of the edge of each panel
03:03 PM roycroft: and thinking there was probably a support rail that i install later that uses those holes
03:04 PM roycroft: only to discover, as i finished installing the last panel, that there are no such support rails
03:04 PM roycroft: rather, i'm supposed to use a nut and bolt to connect the panels together through those holes in the middle
03:05 PM roycroft: and i cannot do so with them all assembled - i have to do it as i go or i can't reach both sides of the panel
03:05 PM rdtsc-wk: doh!
03:05 PM roycroft: i may end up completely disassembling the panels and reassembling them
03:05 PM roycroft: i'm pondering whether there's something clever i can do to avoid all that
03:06 PM * roycroft strongly prefers avoiding all that
03:08 PM rdtsc-wk: silly putty?
03:08 PM rdtsc-wk: to hold the other side?
03:09 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> another person to hold the other side?
03:09 PM JT-Shop: tape
03:09 PM rdtsc-wk: assuming he's like the rest of us, and left to our own devices :)
03:10 PM roycroft: i tried a couple with tape and k-lock nuts (which i happen to have in stock in the right size), and that is promising
03:10 PM Tom_L: following the instructions exactly.... i wonder if it looks like the Sears houses in Savannah
03:11 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> i have a Searc house...
03:11 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> *Sears
03:11 PM roycroft: are those sears house kits made in china and their documentation written in china?
03:12 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> dunno, mine was built in 1915
03:12 PM Tom_L: if you've ever been there you know what i'm talking about
03:12 PM Tom_L: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/sears-mishap-house-myth
03:12 PM roycroft: my first clue that this might be challenging was when the boxes arrived with big stickers on them that said "behold! inside is wonder!"
03:13 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> LMAO roycroft
03:13 PM roycroft: my second clue is when i opened the instruction book and the first sentence started with "hello, dear"
03:13 PM roycroft: i had an aunt and uncle who built a sears mail-order house back in the '60s
03:13 PM roycroft: it was a decent house
03:14 PM roycroft: but my uncle had some construction skills
03:14 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/IHEwsMsCgYMwrnOphuBosTHp/my_house.jpg
03:14 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> my sears house...
03:17 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you still don't have your phone?
03:18 PM JT-Woodshop: I got a new to me phone but going to somewhat repair the broken one to get my contacts off of it
03:20 PM Tom_L: saw some mention of Bellville Il
03:24 PM roycroft: my aunt and uncle with the sears house lived about an hour north of belville
03:30 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Travis Farmer I thought they were all frame houses. Is that all stone block?
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> stone block with the joist into pockets
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> heh, imagine the kit price today
03:31 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> and all the BS to get it built anywhere near a large city
03:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> we can mass produce prebuilt homes for cheap in the USA
03:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> but we will not allow it
03:32 PM rdtsc-wk: "Love you long-time (dear) kit house": $205k with $35k freighting
03:33 PM rdtsc-wk: (wouldn't be surprised.) :)
03:33 PM lcnc-relay: <Travis Farmer> yeah, modular homes are fast to build, but still expensive...
03:34 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> I developed a bunch of low cost construction materials years ago
03:35 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> since then I have seen how they control materials used for home construction through even EPA laws
03:46 PM JT-Shop: rain on the way
03:48 PM roycroft: the town where i used to work, and where my employer is still based, had a recall election for two city counselors last month
03:49 PM roycroft: bogus reasons, and this was the second time they attempted it, this time it worked, and both were recalled
03:49 PM roycroft: the recall will be certified later this month, and nobody can file for candidacy until it is certified
03:49 PM roycroft: the certification date is the day before the filing date
03:50 PM roycroft: i guess it's good that the certification date is not after the filing deadline
03:50 PM roycroft: but that still does not leave prospective candidates much time to file
03:56 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, looks like you're gettin a piece of what we had this morning... quite a thunderstorm went thru here
04:04 PM JT-Shop: yeah could get a bit heavy here
04:05 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, did you check out the fsc since my last push?
05:05 PM Tom_L: not yet
05:19 PM * JT-Woodshop takes 5 with Dave
05:23 PM Tom_L: does sfc go in the container yet?
05:24 PM JT-Woodshop: yup
05:24 PM Tom_L: i got a blank container
05:24 PM JT-Woodshop: what did you name it?
05:24 PM Tom_L: sfm_container
05:24 PM Tom_L: in one of my examples
05:25 PM Tom_L: do i need to point to it somehow?
05:25 PM JT-Woodshop: cliffs of dover
05:25 PM JT-Woodshop: no, it should be automagic
05:25 PM JT-Woodshop: look at xyz
05:26 PM Tom_L: nice
05:27 PM JT-Woodshop: eric johnson?
05:27 PM JT-Woodshop: oh you can't hear what's playing here
05:27 PM Tom_L: from /linuxcnc/configs/mill_3 i get nothing though
05:28 PM JT-Woodshop: coffee homeground kate bush
05:28 PM JT-Woodshop: odd
05:30 PM Tom_L: one sec
05:31 PM JT-Woodshop: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-e&q=coffee+homeground+lyrics
05:32 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> she's good
05:32 PM JT-Woodshop: I actually never understood what she was singing but the melody was pleasing
05:32 PM Tom_L: nope i have an empty container
05:32 PM JT-Woodshop: roguish my bike computer shows 1 mile more than map my ride after 16 miles and I've set the circumference to the tire...
05:34 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> is it calculating with gps, or revolutions ?
05:34 PM JT-Woodshop: map my ride is gps the bike computer is revs
05:35 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> don't know.... do you weave around a lot ??? do paperboy up the hills?
05:37 PM JT-Woodshop: I ride a pretty curvy course at the park... dunno what paperboy up the hills means
05:37 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> i'm not sure what mine uses...
05:38 PM JT-Woodshop: with the oem tires I just accepted the default of 2060 on the bike computer
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> paperboy is back and forth, zigzag, like you're delivering newspapers
05:38 PM JT-Woodshop: now that I know the circumference I have that in the computer
05:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I call it tacking, after my years of sailing
05:39 PM JT-Woodshop: when I was a paperboy I went down one side then back down the other because I was more accurate with my right arm to the right
05:39 PM JT-Woodshop: I could hit a flower pot at 25 paces...
05:39 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yeah, me too.
05:39 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:40 PM * JT-Woodshop closes up here and move closer to the couch
05:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I have one of these. but earlier version, not color display... https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/bike-computers/elemnt-bolt-buy
05:40 PM JT-Woodshop: but first a bit of moody blues
05:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> a question of time
05:41 PM JT-Woodshop: wow that's expensive... and I drive a C8
05:41 PM JT-Woodshop: way more that I want lol
05:41 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> Days of Future Past, A Question of Balance
05:41 PM JT-Woodshop: the story in your eyes
05:52 PM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/Pzp0rKMMZkbT.png
05:52 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, you don't have any layouts set...
05:53 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Cave: are you going to incorporate your gcode generators?
05:53 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, sorry a typo in the docs it's fixed
05:53 PM JT-Cave: it's possible now
05:54 PM * JT-Cave loves the docs build and upload bash file
05:56 PM JT-Cave: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/flexgui/misc.html#speed-feed-calculator
05:57 PM JT-Cave: Tom_L, just need to make the le's touch enabled by the container
06:02 PM JT-Cave: just looked at the 2.9 docs and there is no mention of the change in gantry homing... that is so sad
06:06 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:23 PM Tom_L: better
06:25 PM Tom_L: where does it call the fsc.ui from?
06:28 PM Tom_L: i see one in the source folder too
06:31 PM Tom_L: maybe make that editable in the config folder for the user
06:32 PM Tom_L: instead of /usr/lib/libflexgui
06:32 PM Tom_L: if it's even possible
06:42 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/RPI_FSC.png
06:47 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:58 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1326318/
06:58 PM Tom_L: default the entries to 0 not ''
06:58 PM rdtsc: JT gantry homing - from a newcomer perspective, it is quite confusing
06:58 PM rdtsc: gantry in general, let alone homing
07:03 PM Tom_L: i would have all the metric units the same either M or mm
07:36 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> all 4 ground rods in and attached..
07:47 PM rdtsc: How's the reception from darn near the stratosphere? :)
07:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Good
07:50 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Really happy with it
08:15 PM roycroft: the roof is half on my shed
08:15 PM roycroft: i may finish tonight!
08:16 PM roycroft: we have good air quality today, which is nice, but it also means clear skies and lots of sun
08:16 PM roycroft: so i'm taking a short break
08:16 PM roycroft: it's too bad i can't install the roof from the inside of the shed, so that it would shade me
08:20 PM xxcoder: just build bigger shed covering it so you can build it without sun ;)
08:20 PM xxcoder: kidding aside, yeah
08:22 PM roycroft: as soon as this shed is done and moved into i need to build the temporary lean-to shed next to my shop, using the materials i scavenged from the lean-to shed at my old house
08:23 PM roycroft: my air compressor and dust collector will be living in that shed, so it needs to get built asap
08:30 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0lcans7l5I least coherent song I heard today
09:04 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bgOhaU3eyA
09:08 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> 👍
09:08 PM xxcoder: did tree branches fall off? awesome otherwise
09:10 PM xxcoder: nice video
09:16 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> i bent 2 of the vhf elements on one of the antennas.. doesn't seem to effect the performance though
09:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (I don't think there are any vhf channels around here anyways.) it might be channel 8 here - but that is like 5 miles away and so powerful that I could get it with a pigtail.
09:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> roycroft: only using one antenna so far
09:33 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I need a decent combiner
09:35 PM roycroft: the roof is done
09:35 PM roycroft: i just have to assemble and install the doors now
09:35 PM roycroft: skunkworks8841: i need to deal with ota tv, but it's not a high priority
09:36 PM roycroft: i'll bug you about your project occasionally, so i can avoid the mistakes you'll make :)
09:36 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> the last over the air TV antenna i put up https://www.channelmaster.com/products/masterpiece-100-outdoor-tv-antenna-cm-5020
09:40 PM * roycroft thinks shed doors are more important than broadcast television right now, and gets back to what is the priority
09:40 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> was about 55 miles NW of Chicago, we got Chicago, Milwaukee and Rockford stations at about 860ft above sea level, 35ft above ground
09:42 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> roycroft: how many shed doors do you have? 2 🙂