#linuxcnc Logs
Jul 31 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:28 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> indeed the space messed up the command 😉
04:03 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:39 AM Tom_L: morning
04:53 AM BorgPipe: sure be a good one. my new 2015 macbook i7 with geforce 750 seems like a rock solid computer
04:53 AM BorgPipe: was able to get linux mint mate onto it with no issues
04:54 AM BorgPipe: dual boots like a dream, also macos has nice sound software ableton and flstudio
04:54 AM BorgPipe: hardly ever makes fan noise and can keep up to a full load
04:55 AM BorgPipe: only paid 200 for it
05:12 AM Deejay: moin
07:08 AM rdtsc-wk: @Guest44 parport --> AD664 --> 3 or 4 analog servos? Unlear what you're trying to accomplish.
07:09 AM rdtsc-wk: *unclear
07:11 AM rdtsc-wk: @BorgPipe I really like Mabox, have it on 3 or 4 machines now. https://maboxlinux.org Based on Manjaro / Arch though, so a little different from Debian and Ubuntu flavors.
07:26 AM JT-Cave1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAgeddkPF1U
07:40 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:54 AM rdtsc-wk: Looks like the 'buildbot in training' has learned to sit and stay... http://buildbot2.highlab.com/buildbot/#/console
08:07 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Seb posted on the mailing list that the build bot was crashing because the log was filling up the hd space.
08:07 AM lcnc-relay: <vibram> 9
08:27 AM JT-Cave: because of doc building errors...
08:30 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> right - sorry - never finished my thought.
08:31 AM JT-Cave: now that the plotter is working it's time to start my chicken day and wait for Tom_L to break something :)
09:04 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> rp 5 is still running around 15us latency..
09:07 AM rdtsc-wk: I ran a slew of latency tests on an older HP Touchsmart 300 dual-core AMD system. Bottom line: lots of things drastically altered the latency. Things you'd think would make it better (like disabling one of Ethernet / WiFi) actually made it worse!
09:17 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> this has been running for weeks now.. I forget that it is on.. 😉
09:58 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, if DRO isn't checked the other items should be greyed out
09:58 AM Tom_L: except extents, limits and the 'graphic' options
09:59 AM Tom_L: anything DRO related
10:00 AM Tom_L: DRO wasn't checked after quitting and it comes up on a restart
10:01 AM Tom_L: something is off with the 'save' option
10:06 AM Tom_L: menu items (actions) on start don't update the checkmark like the buttons
10:06 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/DRO_Actions.png
10:16 AM JT-Cave: are you sure everything has the correct object name?
10:16 AM Tom_L: i'm working on that atm
10:16 AM Tom_L: pretty sure all the actions are
10:17 AM Tom_L: i'll update once i check them all
10:17 AM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/YZAIGyBzvzpO.png
10:17 AM JT-Cave: at startup
10:17 AM Tom_L: yeah, lemme double check it all
10:18 AM Tom_L: i'm adding in the remaining buttons i didn't have
10:18 AM Tom_L: err check boxes
10:25 AM * JT-Cave adds a fixme for dro and heads to town
10:25 AM Tom_L: yeah, the menu checks don't update with the checkboxes here
10:26 AM Tom_L: on startup
10:28 AM JT-Cave: oh yeah I'm waiting on you to build 0.9.4 so I can release 0.9.5
10:28 AM Tom_L: deb?
10:29 AM Tom_L: i can do that now
10:29 AM JT-Cave: yup
10:30 AM Tom_L: PR 51
10:32 AM Tom_L: ok. i checked and unchecked all items (except lathe) from the menu first then from the checkboxes and both updated each other
10:32 AM Tom_L: tried it both directions
10:35 AM Tom_L: i do have an issue on startup
10:35 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/DRO_All_checked.png
10:36 AM Tom_L: then i restarted flex:
10:36 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/DRO_checked_after_restart.png
10:36 AM Tom_L: limits, velocity, DTG, offsets weren't checked on the 'actions'
10:36 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Cave: Tom_L looking really good.....
10:37 AM Tom_L: it's gettting closer daily
10:37 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> is there a deb that is current ?
10:37 AM Tom_L: i can make one
10:37 AM Tom_L: for amd64?
10:38 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> yes.
10:39 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/
10:39 AM Tom_L: 0.9.4
10:39 AM Tom_L: he's gonna bump that up yet today probably
10:40 AM Tom_L: my example doesn't have all this pushed to it yet
10:40 AM JT-Shop_: https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui/releases
10:40 AM Tom_L: but it will eventually
10:40 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> how about weint a bit then. I actually have to do some machining today, so won's really have much time to check it out
10:40 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop_, you see the 2 screenshots?
10:40 AM JT-Shop_: https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui/releases/tag/0.9.5
10:41 AM JT-Shop_: no, heading out and I've bumped it up
10:41 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> right now, gotta pay the mortgage and insurance.....
10:41 AM Tom_L: i showed a before and after restart screen showing which ones don't check
10:41 AM Tom_L: (in actions)
10:42 AM JT-Shop_: they all stay in sync now, tested a bit ago
10:42 AM Tom_L: i'll rebuild here in a bit and try it again
10:43 AM Tom_L: and i'll push a .5 deb
10:44 AM * rdtsc-wk requests an arm64 deb please and ty
10:44 AM Tom_L: on my site just now
10:44 AM Tom_L: jt has one too
10:44 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/
10:44 AM Tom_L: 0.9.4
10:46 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop_, those same ones in 'actions' still don't update on a restart here
10:46 AM rdtsc-wk: seeing the amd64 only
10:46 AM Tom_L: limits, velocity, dtg, offsets
10:46 AM Tom_L: rdtsc-wk, hang on
10:47 AM Tom_L: now check
11:26 AM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> chose a 5-axis Isel and deskproto spit this out https://paste.debian.net/1324988/
11:27 AM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> in ISEL Zwischenformat, jah vol!
11:36 AM roycroft: well the universe will be in order again soon
11:36 AM roycroft: maya rudolph is returning to snl for the election season to portray kamala harris
11:38 AM roycroft: too bad i don't get television stations any more
11:38 AM roycroft: i'll have to rely on the expurgated clips on teh youtube
11:39 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> don't you just have to climb the roof and hook up the cable? 😉
11:40 AM roycroft: i did that and i don't get anything, but i have to check the cable
11:40 AM roycroft: at any rate, even if that works, i expect to only get pbs and abc
11:40 AM roycroft: the only two networks with local translators
11:40 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> aww. pop
11:40 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> poop
11:40 AM roycroft: nbc and cbs are right out
11:40 AM roycroft: (and, thankfully, fox)
11:41 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I am really happy with the tuner in the hdhomerun.. It seems very sensitive.
11:41 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> the toshiba tv's tuner is a potato
11:41 AM roycroft: there may be things i can do to improve tv reception
11:41 AM roycroft: it's not a high priority at the moment, though
11:41 AM roycroft: i don't have time to watch tv anyway
11:48 AM rdtsc-wk: Thanks Tom_L will try it out tonight
11:50 AM bjorkintosh: heh. I was area man for a very long time: https://www.theonion.com/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-televisi-1819565469
11:50 AM bjorkintosh: and proud of it too.
11:50 AM bjorkintosh: I still don't own a tv, but these days every smart phone is pretty much a streaming device.
12:13 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/OygmcUNDOryGmdslDWnZFrRV/PXL_20240731_0036392403.mp4
12:17 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> (had to remove the lower jaw to fit it in the vice...)
12:18 PM mrec: with the lathe?
12:22 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> ?
12:24 PM Tom_L: hmc
12:24 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, why the extra little move at the end?
12:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> that is a linuxcnc thing.. it overshoots a bit becasue of the time the spindle takes to slow down..
12:28 PM Tom_L: k
12:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> probably don't see it on fast braking spindles..
12:28 PM Tom_L: i never noticed it
12:28 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> so it slows down - stops - then moves to the starting plane
12:29 PM Tom_L: safe
12:29 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> that spindle has a lot of mass.
12:29 PM Tom_L: the whole machine does :)
12:29 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> tre
12:29 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> true
12:29 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> still my favorite machine to use...
12:30 PM Tom_L: i can see why
12:30 PM Tom_L: how many hp is the spindle?
12:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it was 20 hydraulic - but we put a 5hp motor with vfd.
12:30 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> more than enough power with the 16 gears..
12:31 PM Tom_L: right
12:31 PM Tom_L: is that for the top of the tower?
12:31 PM Tom_L: the plate
12:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes.. Dad used what looks like the center of a tire rim for the top of the tower..
12:32 PM Tom_L: yeah the 5bolt pattern did look familiar :)
12:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> so that goes from the tower bolt hole pattern to the bearing block.
12:32 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> right 🙂
12:36 PM Tom_L: is the toumbstone fixed or is it an axis?
12:37 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> The table rotates - but only 72 postions.. (although - that has come in handy more than once..
12:37 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> 5 degrees
12:38 PM Tom_L: manually?
12:38 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> It is the B axis.
12:38 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> no
12:38 PM Tom_L: ahh
12:38 PM Tom_L: that's cool
12:38 PM Tom_L: indexer
12:39 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e9IyWELn2Y
12:39 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> yes - indexer
12:40 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it homes to an index so it knows where the splines are..
12:40 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> you can technically make it index anywhere - it just won't sit down.. lol
12:40 PM Tom_L: pinned?
12:41 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/EPXTmHgHASMfBpxgUvLJPvAv/PXL_20240728_151420259.jpg
12:41 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> cervic coupling
12:42 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> spelling
12:42 PM Tom_L: i've never explored the mechanics of toumbstone indexers much
12:43 PM Tom_L: my bud had an okuma with a 2 pallet changer but i never looked at it that close
12:43 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I have a rotary axis from another machine that I have been meaning on putting on one of the pallets - but have not gotten there yet.
12:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> it would be cool if the table was infinitely postionable - but it would be awkward - as the center of the rotation would be quit a ways away from the spindle in the cetner of the table
12:45 PM Tom_L: right
12:45 PM Tom_L: you'd have to acomodate for that in the cad
12:45 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> but mainly it gives you atleast 4 working spaces on each pallet easy
12:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Plus squaring up stock is quite easy 🙂
12:46 PM Tom_L: i'd love to see the setup my kid works on but i'll probably never get the chance
12:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> itar?
12:46 PM Tom_L: huh?
12:47 PM Tom_L: he just started a new job running some machines he ran at his first job
12:47 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> I mean - they won't let you in because of trade secrets or military or rockets..
12:48 PM Tom_L: 4 makino mag3 work cell with 20 pallets
12:48 PM Tom_L: he just started this job maybe a month ago
12:48 PM Tom_L: the last place kept running out of work
12:49 PM Tom_L: they offered more money but that doesn't bring work in
12:49 PM Tom_L: i'm sure they do military work too
12:50 PM Tom_L: quite a few more employees at this place
12:51 PM Tom_L: the first mag3 he ran was serial #4
12:51 PM Tom_L: he likes these alot better cause they're not worn out
12:53 PM Tom_L: the last place he did stuff for just about everybody.. military, aero, musk....
12:54 PM Tom_L: apache
12:56 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> neat!
12:59 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> There were 41 IIIb Models produced from 1967 to 1974
01:05 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:10 PM xxcoder: nice on plotter jt
01:11 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, he told me one of the criteria on those is the finished weight can't fluxuate more than 20lbs
01:11 PM Tom_L: tight tolerances
01:13 PM xxcoder: roy 1 mile tall so you can get more channels ;)
01:13 PM roycroft: i don't think the antenna would need to be that high
01:13 PM roycroft: but it would have to be pretty tall
01:15 PM xxcoder: likely would have violated the ceiling limit too, either sizes
01:29 PM roycroft: i'd probably need a tower 400m or so high to clear the mountains between here and the eugene transmitters
01:29 PM roycroft: and that's pretty tall
01:29 PM roycroft: i'd need a lot of property just to guy it
01:29 PM xxcoder: I bet
01:29 PM roycroft: i'd get cable tv before doing that
01:30 PM xxcoder: alternate would be balloon lifted cable lol
01:30 PM roycroft: the roi on a tower like that vs. paying for catv would be like 300 years :)
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> I use the intertubes for tv. I rarely watch any local programming
01:53 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Antennas on a rotor have been replaced by trying to find streams from around the world
01:57 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:57 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, https://pasteboard.co/YIvEEXnilBws.png startup
01:59 PM JT-Shop: https://pasteboard.co/UXGXux9BfsB8.png startup
02:00 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: crimminy, getting much better all the time
02:04 PM JT-Shop: it's my yob mon
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> doing it very well, give yourself a raise....
02:05 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> and a bonus
02:06 PM JT-Shop: now if I could get someone to use it...
02:06 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I am definitely going to give a go.....
02:09 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> gonna go for a short spin. about hour and half.... easy roll....still in the 70's here. but going up
02:13 PM JT-Shop: hmm Lightburn is no longer supporting linux
02:36 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/DRO_checked_after_restart.png
02:36 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, those are disabled after a restart with them all checked
02:38 PM Tom_L: i checked all of them and each one updates it's counterpart checkbox
02:38 PM Tom_L: i tested both directions, from the menu and the checkbox
02:39 PM Tom_L: with them all checked, the png is what i get on a restart after closing flex
02:44 PM JT-Shop: https://pasteboard.co/UXGXux9BfsB8.png
02:44 PM JT-Shop: that's what I get after a restart
02:45 PM JT-Shop: just started flex and got this https://pasteboard.co/ZnZiNIcWRpHF.png
02:45 PM JT-Shop: run xyzh
02:46 PM JT-Shop: I really need to have the preferences for each config name...
02:54 PM Tom_L: where do you save them?
02:55 PM JT-Shop: .configs/JET
02:56 PM Tom_L: i'm not finding that here yet
02:57 PM Tom_L: ok... .config/JET
02:59 PM Tom_L: yeah, xyzh works as expected
03:00 PM Tom_L: mine mill_3 does not
03:00 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/DRO_checked_after_restart.png
03:00 PM Tom_L: i get those same ones unchecked
03:01 PM Tom_L: i've checked each one both directions and the counterpart updates when it's checked/unchecked
03:02 PM Tom_L: it's just on a restart
03:03 PM Tom_L: that .config/JET file does update with it each time
03:03 PM Tom_L: the editor with it open asks to reload it so i know it's written to
03:04 PM Tom_L: the ones that are unchecked say 'true' in the file too
03:05 PM Tom_L: that config maybe should be in the same folder as the ini named the same in case someone runs multiple configs
03:05 PM Tom_L: or somewhere so it's independent
03:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/mill_3_actions.png
03:10 PM Tom_L: double checked the action names
03:14 PM Tom_L: you sure you're not using a local copy of something that i didn't get?
03:15 PM Tom_L: kinda what it acts like
03:16 PM rdtsc-wk: https://forum.lightburnsoftware.com/t/linux-support-to-end-after-v1-7/144605 whoa
03:18 PM Tom_L: that sucks
03:19 PM xxcoder: yeah
03:23 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, with them all checked on close, here's what i get on the rpi ui after reloading: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/rpi_save_options.png
03:24 PM Tom_L: and it also is updating the .config.JET config file
03:24 PM Tom_L: different set that are left off
03:26 PM Tom_L: i don't have all the checkboxes on that config yet just the actions
03:32 PM Tom_L: ok, just added a tab for them
03:32 PM JT-Shop: I don't have a view menu on rpi mill 3
03:32 PM Tom_L: i can push that if you want
03:33 PM Tom_L: i added those since the last push
03:33 PM JT-Shop: yup
03:33 PM Tom_L: i'll push the rpi one too but i haven't tested it yet
03:34 PM * Tom_L makes sure he's in sync first
03:36 PM Tom_L: PR 52
03:39 PM Tom_L: i need to work on the rpi one but it does work, just cosmetics
03:44 PM Tom_L: the rpi checkboxes are saving and restoring now.
03:44 PM Tom_L: very odd
03:46 PM Tom_L: lemme check the other one
03:47 PM Tom_L: i think i know what it was
03:48 PM Tom_L: ok they're both working now
03:50 PM Tom_L: pull #53 and try it
03:50 PM Tom_L: but don't shoot me
03:50 PM Tom_L: i had those checkboxes as checked in the ui file :)
03:50 PM Tom_L: sorry !
03:51 PM Tom_L: leftover from the first test day
03:51 PM Tom_L: pull that in and i'll build a .5 rpi deb
03:51 PM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/hTZkkkaEwv9R.png
03:51 PM JT-Cave: interesting
03:52 PM Tom_L: but they both work now
03:52 PM JT-Cave: https://paste.debian.net/1325044/
03:52 PM Tom_L: it was because in the ui they were set as checked
03:53 PM Tom_L: you may want to note that in your html
03:55 PM JT-Cave: none were set as checkable in rpi when I just looked
03:55 PM Tom_L: as far as disabling the ones that are part of the DRO when the DRO isn't showing, i don't relly think that is necessary
03:55 PM JT-Cave: and there's a few that don't start as checked
03:55 PM Tom_L: i may have fixed the rpi one before i pushed it
03:55 PM Tom_L: grab 53 and try it
03:57 PM Tom_L: they do however need their own configs. i can set one in mill_3 and it updates rpi_mill_3 also
03:58 PM JT-Cave: yup need to program that
03:58 PM JT-Cave: view seems to work for me now on the rpi
03:58 PM Tom_L: other than that i think they're good to go
03:59 PM JT-Cave: oh come on you will find something :)
03:59 PM Tom_L: just make a note of the checked thing in the ui
03:59 PM Tom_L: i know, i was just trying to be nice for one day
03:59 PM JT-Cave: checkable or checked?
03:59 PM Tom_L: checked
03:59 PM Tom_L: checkable needs to be on
03:59 PM Tom_L: so the check shows up
04:00 PM JT-Cave: not in the designer
04:00 PM Tom_L: oh?
04:00 PM Tom_L: i think i have all mine checked for checkable
04:00 PM JT-Cave: really I make it easy for you and set checkable in the code
04:00 PM Tom_L: :)
04:00 PM JT-Cave: they were but not now
04:00 PM Tom_L: i'll uncheck one of the ui and see
04:01 PM JT-Cave: none are set to checkable here
04:01 PM JT-Cave: but they are in a state of changed and you have to press the button on the right to change it back to unchanged
04:02 PM Tom_L: i undid the checkable in the ui and now the menu doesn't update the checkbox
04:03 PM Tom_L: and i can't check them
04:03 PM Tom_L: the checkbox is there but won't toggle
04:03 PM JT-Cave: pull
04:04 PM Tom_L: no
04:04 PM Tom_L: still can't check them
04:05 PM JT-Cave: I can check them here and uncheck them but the plot does not update on rpi unless I move the plot with my moust
04:05 PM Tom_L: load a file
04:06 PM Tom_L: as soon as i set a couple as checkable in the ui it works on those
04:06 PM Tom_L: but not the rest
04:06 PM Tom_L: on the checkboxes
04:07 PM JT-Cave: oh not the view menu
04:07 PM Tom_L: no not the actions
04:07 PM Tom_L: just the checkboxes
04:07 PM Tom_L: the view menu seems ok
04:08 PM JT-Cave: I can check all the plot options on rpi and it updates the view menu
04:08 PM Tom_L: not here
04:08 PM JT-Cave: and the view menu updates the plot options when I change them
04:09 PM Tom_L: i'm pulling a fresh copy
04:09 PM JT-Cave: ok
04:10 PM JT-Cave: I'm going to wander out to the machine shop for a while
04:10 PM Tom_L: nope, they need to be checked here
04:10 PM Tom_L: ok
04:12 PM JT-Cave: are you saying you have to set the check boxes to checked in designer or you can check them when running?
04:12 PM JT-Cave: that doesn't make sense
04:12 PM Tom_L: one sec
04:13 PM Tom_L: i just pulled in the copy i gave you and the checkboxes are all set to checkable
04:15 PM Tom_L: and i unchecked half of them and that half doesn't work
04:16 PM Tom_L: so for now at least, checkable needs to be checked in the ui
04:16 PM JT-Cave: ah ok checkboxes are checkable by default you don't have to set them to checkable when you drag and drop them
04:16 PM Tom_L: oh
04:16 PM JT-Cave: but if you turn checkable off then you can't check them
04:17 PM Tom_L: ok
04:17 PM Tom_L: all is well in doo da then
04:17 PM JT-Cave: I only add checkable to actions because it's not default
04:17 PM Tom_L: oh i see
04:17 PM JT-Cave: so you don't have to
04:17 PM Tom_L: right
04:17 PM Tom_L: but on the checkboxes that's default
04:17 PM JT-Cave: correct
04:19 PM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/97mhFjVZGblP.png
04:20 PM Tom_L: cool
04:20 PM Tom_L: is that pushed?
04:20 PM JT-Cave: no, just testing it now... do you want to test it?
04:21 PM Tom_L: i test everything
04:21 PM JT-Cave: pushed
04:21 PM Tom_L: checking my checkables first :)_
04:22 PM JT-Cave: lol
04:22 PM JT-Cave: see you in the shop
04:22 PM Tom_L: ok i think things are back to normal now
04:22 PM JT-Cave: oh and the conf files are in .config/Flex now
04:23 PM Tom_L: where they should be
04:26 PM Tom_L: do you create the directory if it's not there yet?
04:26 PM Tom_L: oh there it is
04:28 PM Tom_L: seems to work
04:28 PM JT-Shop: yup
04:28 PM Tom_L: both ui save to their respective conf and retain their place on the screen apart from each other
04:28 PM Tom_L: (i checked that too)
04:29 PM Tom_L: ok i'll build a .5 pi deb
04:29 PM JT-Shop: ok cool
04:29 PM Tom_L: and remove the JET folder
04:31 PM Tom_L: wildfires in Co are coming dangerously close to my bil's house
04:31 PM JT-Shop: that's not good
04:31 PM roycroft: the town i live in will be having a town hall meeting tonight to discuss the fires
04:32 PM roycroft: part of town is in level 1 (be ready) evacuation mode
04:32 PM roycroft: the part farthest away from me
04:32 PM roycroft: a house i almost bought is in that zone though
04:32 PM roycroft: and the main reason i did not buy it is because it was so close to where the fires are
04:32 PM roycroft: my decision has been confirmed multiple times this summer already
04:33 PM roycroft: my neighborhood has never been in an evacuation zone of any level
04:35 PM Tom_L: PR #54 up for deb
04:36 PM JT-Shop: ok
04:36 PM Tom_L: rdtsc-wk, new debs are available
04:37 PM Tom_L: they're so fresh there's steam coming off em
04:37 PM JT-Shop: :)
04:37 PM Tom_L: now that could be dinner rolls or a pile of shxx
04:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: well, back from my ride. 2 hr, 24 miles.
04:38 PM Tom_L: roguish, check out the latest debs
04:38 PM JT-Shop: nice it takes me about 2 hours to go 21 miles
04:38 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> ok
04:39 PM Tom_L: too hot to be outside here
04:39 PM Tom_L: 100F
04:39 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> well, I met up with a friend in the middle, and he took us on a rat ride through some hills. some 12%, some dirt. and a short patch of loose, deep gravel.
04:40 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> 87 here now, glad i'm done
04:47 PM JT-Shop: I avoid dirt, rocks, gravel, and walkers
04:50 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> the gravel was no fun, actually had to walk a bit....
04:51 PM JT-Shop: I've been on some trails with the mountain bike that was walking only
04:52 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I don't mind some dirt trails, as long as they
04:52 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> re dry. and not too rutty
04:52 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> but gravel sucks
04:59 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> ok, nap time........
05:01 PM Tom_L: haha all my recent files disappeared! config changes...
05:01 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:01 PM Tom_L: each one will be separate now
05:01 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:02 PM Tom_L: do you know what 'Overlay' is?
05:03 PM Tom_L: doesn't seem to do anything
05:03 PM JT-Shop: no and there's another one that I've not figured out what it is
05:03 PM Tom_L: it would be nice if G92 had it's own checkbox
05:03 PM Tom_L: that's likely not in the code
05:04 PM JT-Shop: wonder if it is related to the grid?
05:04 PM Tom_L: dunno
05:06 PM Tom_L: add option for font size
05:06 PM JT-Shop: on my list I think
05:06 PM Tom_L: maybe check out self.grid_size = 0.0 too
05:06 PM Tom_L: that may be the overlay i dunno
05:06 PM JT-Shop: does a grid show up in axis?
05:07 PM Tom_L: i dunno
05:08 PM Tom_L: overlay fills in the bounding box where the DRO shows
05:08 PM Tom_L: instead of erasing it
05:08 PM Tom_L: reverse the logic on it though
05:08 PM JT-Shop: screenshot?
05:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/overlay1.png
05:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/overlay2.png
05:10 PM Tom_L: the logic is backwards i think though
05:11 PM JT-Shop: took a few times to see what was going on... seems to only be for the dro part
05:11 PM Tom_L: right
05:11 PM Tom_L: i doubt many pay attention to that
05:18 PM JT-Shop: pr done and logic reversed on overlay
05:18 PM Tom_L: overlay doesn't stay set either. move the mouse and the line on the bounding box goes away
05:20 PM Tom_L: it's not annoying unless you notice it :)
05:23 PM Tom_L: do you know where the axis sims save their settings?
05:23 PM JT-Shop: in the home dir
05:24 PM Tom_L: axis_preferences?
05:24 PM JT-Shop: yup with a dot in front
05:24 PM Tom_L: looks like it
05:24 PM Tom_L: right
05:25 PM Tom_L: you should fiddle with self._current_file, self.gcode.properties, self.highlight_line,self.show_program
05:25 PM Tom_L: i bet it has code to show the program like axis does
05:26 PM Tom_L: dunno what self.program_alpha would be
05:26 PM JT-Shop: what do you mean?
05:26 PM JT-Shop: screenshot?
05:26 PM Tom_L: i bet it would display the gcode like axis
05:26 PM Tom_L: i'm just looking at the flexplog.py
05:27 PM Tom_L: and the axis preferences file
05:27 PM JT-Shop: flexplog.py?
05:27 PM Tom_L: typo
05:27 PM Tom_L: flexplot.py
05:27 PM JT-Shop: I know lol
05:27 PM Tom_L: axis uses some of those
05:27 PM Tom_L: maybe i'll change em and see what axis does
05:27 PM JT-Shop: ok
05:29 PM Tom_L: program_alpha removes the cutter paths
05:30 PM Tom_L: and rapids
05:30 PM JT-Shop: odd so does show program
05:30 PM Tom_L: try and see the difference
05:30 PM Tom_L: show program removes it all
05:31 PM JT-Shop: what remains with alpha?
05:31 PM Tom_L: what looks like a single path with no cutter
05:31 PM JT-Shop: does it remove the tool offsets and show the programmed path?
05:32 PM Tom_L: no
05:32 PM Tom_L: just seems to affect the "LinuxCNC" path
05:33 PM JT-Shop: what is the "LinuxCNC" path?
05:33 PM Tom_L: the default program
05:33 PM Tom_L: with it off it shows cutter paths & rapids etc
05:34 PM JT-Shop: hmm dunno what the default program is...
05:34 PM Tom_L: the outlined "LinuxCNC" everybody cuts when they build a new mill :)
05:34 PM JT-Shop: if you have "" for a default program it doesn't load one
05:36 PM Tom_L: i don't see that grid does anything visual
05:36 PM Tom_L: i can't see it anyway
05:38 PM JT-Shop: don't see a grid on axis either
05:38 PM Tom_L: that's what i'm looking at
05:38 PM Tom_L: i tried several size grids
05:39 PM JT-Shop: me too so it must be broken
05:44 PM Tom_L: i changed self.display_loaded = True in flexplot.py and get a top view
05:47 PM JT-Shop: the z view?
05:47 PM Tom_L: yeah
05:54 PM Tom_L: the view buttons move the dimensions but not the actual gcode display
05:57 PM JT-Shop: yyp not fingered that out yet
05:57 PM Tom_L: ok i won't post a pic then :)
06:03 PM Tom_L: ok well i added buttons for it when you do
06:46 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:51 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, PR #55 update ui & deb
07:04 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
07:05 PM rdtsc: firing up Rpi
07:10 PM rdtsc: installed 0.9.5, now lets see where these examples are
07:11 PM ziper2: I think I fucked up the cnc surface grinder at work
07:12 PM ziper2: the computer won't boot
07:13 PM rdtsc: uh-oh... is it a normal PC or something custom?
07:14 PM rdtsc: found flex examples in /usr/lib/libflexgui/examples
07:19 PM ziper2: I think it is normal (ancient) but not sure if we have the software
07:25 PM rdtsc: If it's that old, could be anything - failed power supply, hard disk, bad electrolytic caps, etc. Take some photos of it and ask computer repair shops if they'll look at it.
07:26 PM rdtsc: Assuming it's easy to remove, that is
07:27 PM rdtsc: Tom_L, I had to archive and clear the flex_examples folder; was seeing a mis-mash of old and new files.
07:34 PM rdtsc: Also zipper2 most industrial repair places offer a checkout capability - could send it to them and they'll check it out professionally.
07:37 PM rdtsc: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=industrial+repair
07:53 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/LISbqPmeQYsUAxTdBbVRbacE/PXL_20240801_004644365.jpg
07:55 PM xxcoder: fixing one of base eh
08:09 PM rdtsc: @Tom_L the Plot and Settings tab of touch.ini - defaulted to DRO and velocity shown, but these were not checked in Settings (nothing was checked.)
08:12 PM rdtsc: @Tom_L Loading torture_text_short.ngc gives the following in linuxcnc terminal output: "'emc_plot' object has no attribute 'report_gcode_error'"
08:15 PM rdtsc: note that did not show up under the Errors tab
08:34 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4PgvCOg8FY
08:35 PM rdtsc: @Tom_L trying to run chips.ngc (once coordinate-system-touchoff is fixed) results in a strange crash at gcode line 4657 saying exceeded X negative limit, but near middle of work volume.
08:37 PM rdtsc: @Tom_L moving chips.ngc to the right, allowed more to be done before stopping at the same physical point in the volume - so build volume not matching limits (and X limit near middle.)
08:38 PM rdtsc: No wait, moving it a bit further and it finished completely - odd...
08:39 PM rdtsc: * Is the pot clear button on the to-do list?
08:40 PM rdtsc: * Also, minor anomaly, screen looks nice and fast on Rpi, but x11vnc of it is very choppy (perhaps 2fps), with tearing and blocking.
08:42 PM Tom_L: x3.5 y3.5 z-2.5 offsets for the torture thing
08:42 PM Tom_L: also use the latest examples as they tend to change frequently
08:44 PM Tom_L: i dunno if jt updated the touch example
08:48 PM rdtsc: torture_test_short needs tool # 45
08:49 PM Tom_L: i can post that tool tbl
08:49 PM ziper2: rdtsc, there is a guy who specializes in these machines, if I can't figure it out i'll probably call him
08:49 PM Tom_L: it should be in the examples somewhere
08:49 PM Tom_L: see if it's in one of the mill_3 folders
08:49 PM ziper2: (and he will bill me 100 dollars or something for a 15 minute phone call and sending me a 2mb file)
08:50 PM rdtsc: @zipper2 whatever you do, get a backup of that software after its working again.
08:51 PM Tom_L: rpi_mill_3 folder has the tool table
08:51 PM Tom_L: it also has a readme
08:51 PM rdtsc: 1.8k vs 125 bytes :)
08:52 PM Tom_L: i just copied the one i use on my mill
08:53 PM Tom_L: a coupld ngc files are there for a couple buttons to work
08:53 PM Tom_L: they call the subs
08:55 PM rdtsc: had to restart touch.ini as it didn't see the updated tool.tbl
08:55 PM rdtsc: got tourture test loaded, was just slightly too high in build volume
08:56 PM Tom_L: touch is jt's ui and i'm not sure he has it completely up to date but it should be
08:56 PM Tom_L: he's been busy coding
08:56 PM rdtsc: that he has
08:56 PM Tom_L: the test was for my mill when i was having following errors
08:56 PM Tom_L: i wanted a good workout for it
08:57 PM Tom_L: so it moves in all quadrants
09:00 PM rdtsc: the "illuminati" of gcode heheh
09:02 PM rdtsc: Once, I think entered 75 then negative for a coordinate touch-off, and it seemed to apply ok, so looked on the Plot tab. Came back to Home and the box contained 52. That only happened once.
09:03 PM rdtsc: Lets see, which should we checkout next?
09:05 PM rdtsc: rpi_mill_3?
09:06 PM rdtsc: Linuxcnc logs 3x "Unknown property border-spacing" at window open
09:15 PM rdtsc: rpi_mill_3 dark interface, able to load chips.ngc, automatically within limits, tool 1 in table, able to run whole code fine. :)
09:16 PM rdtsc: rpi_mill_3 Plotter tab, Rotate right is actually Pan right
09:18 PM rdtsc: rpi_mill_3 also showed DRO, Limits, and Velocity by default, but these were not checked in Plot Options
09:19 PM rdtsc: Dang these are almost ready to be run in production! :)
09:21 PM rdtsc: Very nice, you guys are batting Flex out of the park.
09:23 PM rdtsc: Oh, opening HalMeter was not happy: (halmeter:2847): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: 22:16:28.591: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GtkLabel'
09:29 PM rdtsc is now known as rdtsc_away