#linuxcnc Logs
Jul 09 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:19 AM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://www.cnc4pc.com/nema-23-closed-losed-loop-stepper-motor-system-hybrid-servo-kit-425-oz-in-shaft-size-1-4.html#additional motors for sherline lathe? 🤣
12:44 AM Deejay: moin
02:12 AM rigid: i think I found the reason for my strange following errors: kernel reports brown outs
02:12 AM rigid: seems some hardware got toasted
04:30 AM Tom_L: morning
04:36 AM Tom_L: sunny & 89 today
04:49 AM _unreal_: currently? or whree you live right now?
04:50 AM _unreal_: er currently meaning weather predition
04:50 AM _unreal_: prediction
05:21 AM JT-Cave: morning
05:50 AM mrec: I wonder is the command set from hostmot directly handled in hardware?
05:51 AM mrec: what is the firmware doing? taking care about the ethernet bringup itself?
05:51 AM mrec: I have a 7i96s here
05:52 AM mrec: I guess I need to forward the coordinates via one of those ->write calls which packs the request into a network request and fires it to the 7i96s
06:04 AM sensille: mrec: the firmware takes the data from ethernet and writes it to the hardware registers
06:07 AM mrec: sensille: did you ever extend the hdl description of mesa cards?
06:08 AM mrec: so the hw registers have to be wired up with the additional circuit I guess?
06:08 AM sensille: write new modules? no
06:08 AM sensille: but yes, you have to tie them into the data bus
06:19 AM sensille: but you don't have to change the firmware
06:23 AM mrec: I'm slowly getting the hang of it thanks
08:25 AM pcw---home: mrec: if you make a new hardware module, you can peek/poke at it with mesaflash or use raw read/raw write with LinuxCNC so you dont need to add driver support initially
08:30 AM mrec: I need to extend the HDL code I have some prototype already but need to match it up with the rest of your package
08:35 AM pcw---home: basically all modules have a simple 32 bit synchronous write asynchronous read bus and fixed address location (16 bit address)
08:37 AM pcw---home: in you have multiple registers the are typically at 256 byte boundaries while multiple instances (channels) are at 4 byte boundaries
08:38 AM pcw---home: so you typically have a limit of 64 instances (of stepgens pwmgens etc etc)
08:39 AM mrec: I don't need any stepgen actually, pwm possibly one for the toolchanger (not sure about the chip conveyor)
08:40 AM mrec: I just want to interface the MDS-B-SVJ2 amplifiers and the spindle of that system
08:40 AM mrec: so I need one serial in and one serial out port
08:43 AM mrec: until september everything will be theory... I have the signal dumps and did some interface prototyping
08:43 AM mrec: so far I'm able to decode like 80% (20% don't make sense yet) that will be something when I'm infront that machine again
08:47 AM pcw---home: I just mentioned stepgens,pwmgens as all module addressing is done the same
08:54 AM rdtsc2: What hostmot2 probably looks like inside: https://pixy.org/src2/629/6297549.jpg
08:59 AM mrec: pcw---home: thanks
09:01 AM mrec: it doesn't look so complicated just many files...
09:03 AM pcw---home: yeah not many layers, Top level (host interface) --> Hostmot2 (decode) --> module (hardware interface)
10:02 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> pcw---home: good morning Peter. do you have 7I33 in stock?
10:11 AM pcw---home: I don't think so though I can look, probably closest would be a 7I36 (it needs differential encoders)
10:13 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I have a spare, but I'm not sure if it's working.
10:14 AM JT-Shop: I have a bunch of 7i47 and 7i47s in stock
10:25 AM pcw---home: I can check/repair it if needed, they are not that complicated
10:31 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> pcw---home: thanks. can I drop by this afternoon ??
10:31 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> 2 or 3 ish
10:31 AM pcw---home: That should be OK
10:32 AM lcnc-relay: <roguish> thanks. see ya then
10:49 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Living near peter.. Nice..
11:43 AM rdtsc2: Send him regards from Ohio
01:23 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> which Mesa Ethernet stepper boards are in stock?
01:29 PM Tom_L: jt has 20 7i96s
01:33 PM Tom_L: one or more of the 7i92 variants may be
01:34 PM Tom_L: TF, TH, TM
02:59 PM JT-Cave: https://pasteboard.co/B66qzMgCqnY4.png
04:09 PM Tom_L: which one is that for?
04:11 PM Tom_L: looked like you got a sprinkle or two today
04:12 PM JT-Shop: 3 1/4" of sprinkle
04:12 PM Tom_L: you should see my radar map. the eye passes right over PB
04:13 PM JT-Shop: I'm working out how to style a QAbstractSpinBox which is the parent of the QSpinBox, QDoubleSpinBox and QDatePicker
04:13 PM Tom_L: find the background for the tool selector one :)
04:13 PM Tom_L: that was the only one i couldn't find
04:13 PM JT-Shop: which widget is that?
04:14 PM * Tom_L boots the pc
04:14 PM Tom_L: did you get all my changes?
04:14 PM JT-Shop: I think so
04:15 PM Tom_L: QComboBox .. tool_change_cb
04:15 PM JT-Shop: mainly figured out how to use images for up/down buttons etc
04:16 PM Tom_L: i haven't done that
04:16 PM Tom_L: i felt lucky to get what i got
04:17 PM Tom_L: the rpi one i did has 3 you can pick from
04:21 PM Tom_L: then i got distracted with the RTAI stuff for a bit
04:22 PM JT-Shop: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17738609/qcombobox-selected-item-background-is-not-reflected
04:24 PM Tom_L: i'll try that
04:27 PM Tom_L: if you're being more specific do you: "QComboBox#tool_change_cb::item:selected" ?
04:27 PM JT-Shop: I think so
04:30 PM Tom_L: that did item selected but what about the name for the rest of the list?
04:30 PM Tom_L: item:selected item:???
04:31 PM Tom_L: err not it wouldn't be a single item
04:32 PM JT-Shop: selected would be the selected item so try just item
04:32 PM Tom_L: yeah that didn't work
04:32 PM Tom_L: just item
04:34 PM JT-Shop: https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/stylesheet-examples.html#customizing-qcombobox
04:35 PM Tom_L: had a slight typo checking more
04:35 PM Tom_L: yeah i saw that one
04:36 PM Tom_L: found the background and txt for the list
04:37 PM Tom_L: now to try and fix selected
04:37 PM Tom_L: it's like one overwrites the other
04:42 PM Tom_L: item:selected item:!selected seems the best so far
04:42 PM JT-Shop: screenshot?
04:42 PM Tom_L: i got some crazy color so it would stand out...
04:44 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Tool_dropdown.png
04:44 PM Tom_L: also notice the tool that is selected has a checkmark
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04:45 PM JT-Shop: so you want tool 12 to be green and the selected tool to be purple?
04:46 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1322802/
04:46 PM Tom_L: no, that's what i was after, i just used some crazy colors so i could tell
04:46 PM JT-Shop: ok
04:47 PM Tom_L: i think
04:49 PM Tom_L: some of this isn't documented very well
04:49 PM JT-Shop: some you have to look in a few places to find the complete answer
04:50 PM Tom_L: i wasn't real sure what i was looking for on that one
04:51 PM Tom_L: i wonder if the same thing applies to the main menu ones
04:52 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/File_menu.png
04:52 PM JT-Shop: looking good
04:52 PM Tom_L: i figured out the status bar :)
04:54 PM JT-Shop: what is the syntax for the status bar?
04:54 PM Tom_dev: QStatusBar {
04:54 PM Tom_dev: background-color: rgba(192, 0, 0, 40%); color: white;
04:54 PM Tom_dev: }
04:54 PM Tom_L: white on red
04:55 PM Tom_L: and i made the error message box the same color
04:55 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Status.png
04:55 PM JT-Shop: I did find out today that rgba causes funky look with border
04:55 PM Tom_L: kinda shows that they go together
04:55 PM Tom_L: just set your % with rgba
04:56 PM JT-Shop: it caused a zebra stripe on the radius
04:56 PM Tom_L: hah
04:57 PM Tom_L: mostly i'm hunting down what different things do on this one
04:57 PM Tom_L: and trying to make it somewhat presentable
04:57 PM Tom_L: all the screens are up there now
04:58 PM JT-Shop: that's why I'm doing one type of widget at a time to test and figure out what does what
04:58 PM Tom_L: if you do QWidget it screws up everything else though
04:58 PM Tom_L: i went one below that
04:58 PM JT-Shop: yup QWidget it the top
04:59 PM JT-Shop: for example a spin box and dbl spin box are both a qabstractspinbox so you can use that
04:59 PM Tom_L: QMainWindow isn't quite so bad
05:00 PM Tom_L: so that's where i ended up with the main colors iirc
05:00 PM JT-Shop: https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qspinbox.html
05:00 PM JT-Shop: Inherits: QAbstractSpinBox
05:00 PM Tom_L: you may know, but you can list more than one individual widget at once on a functino
05:00 PM JT-Shop: https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qabstractspinbox.html
05:01 PM Tom_L: funcion
05:01 PM JT-Shop: Inherited By:
05:01 PM JT-Shop: QDateTimeEdit, QDoubleSpinBox, and QSpinBox
05:01 PM JT-Shop: thats what I look at to see what the upper widget might be
05:01 PM Tom_L: ahh
05:02 PM JT-Shop: so instead of saying QDateTimeEdit, QDoubleSpinBox, QSpinBox you can just say QAbstractSpinBox
05:02 PM Tom_L: so setting those for basic shapes & colors then you can fine tune individual ones by specifying them separate?
05:03 PM JT-Shop: when grouping make sure the parent for all are the same
05:03 PM Tom_L: like my stop is red
05:03 PM JT-Shop: exactly
05:03 PM JT-Shop: set the base items the fine tune by selected enabled disabled pressed ets
05:04 PM Tom_L: i kinda ignored the "Class" ones because i wasn't sure what that did
05:04 PM Tom_L: makes sense though
05:04 PM JT-Shop: took me quite a while to understand what I was looking at
05:04 PM Tom_L: i never got into much oops, c++, class inheritance etc
05:05 PM Tom_L: too hard on the brain
05:05 PM Tom_L: i did try oops a bit and couldn't get what i wanted in windows with my dos app so i gave up
05:05 PM JT-Shop: qmake: QT += widgets
05:05 PM JT-Shop: this tells you how to import it in python
05:06 PM JT-Shop: from PyQt6.QWidgets import QAbstractSpinBox
05:06 PM Tom_L: yeah, i wanted all mine from the qss file so it could be independent of main code
05:06 PM Tom_L: besides, i don't know python much at all
05:07 PM JT-Shop: yup that was in case you wanted to start programming lol
05:07 PM Tom_L: just what i've seen these last 2 projects
05:07 PM Tom_L: old dog, new tricks???
05:07 PM JT-Shop: never too old to learn new tricks
05:08 PM Tom_L: i thought i was pretty lucky to get a screen
05:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Tool_dropdown.png
05:14 PM Tom_L: better?
05:15 PM Tom_L: checkmark is out of screen but there
05:17 PM JT-Shop: looks good
05:18 PM Tom_L: trying to get the main file menu like that now
05:19 PM rdtsc2: Python is easy... or at least it used to be. 3.x seems to be going more towards C++ with it's extensive use of syntax - hence ppl are not eager to move from the (now much simpler) Python 2.
05:20 PM Tom_L: yay it worked
05:20 PM JT-Shop: I find python3 easier than python2
05:21 PM JT-Shop: you are becoming the qss master
05:21 PM Tom_L: just froze the pc too :)
05:22 PM Tom_L: ahh, an error window hiding under all the others
05:23 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/File_menu.png
05:23 PM Tom_L: stands out a bit better now
05:23 PM JT-Shop: looking good
05:23 PM Tom_L: i may call that one done
05:24 PM JT-Shop: going to combine my crispy chicken wing and marinated chicken recipe I think
05:25 PM Tom_dev: when a menu item isn't available (not homed etc) what are those items called?
05:26 PM Tom_L: i need to grey the text on those in the menu
05:26 PM JT-Shop: disabled
05:28 PM Tom_L: perfect
05:30 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Machine_menu.png
05:31 PM JT-Shop: looking much better
05:31 PM Tom_L: i'll push that qss
05:31 PM Tom_L: i can't remember any other things i couldn't figure out
05:32 PM JT-Shop: ok
05:32 PM Tom_L: on the touchoff page, notice i 'cautioned' the XY .1 buttons for the edgefinder move
05:33 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/Touchoff-MDI.png
05:33 PM Tom_L: that was the intent anyway
05:33 PM JT-Shop: interesting, is that using the hover?
05:33 PM Tom_L: yeah and pressed goes full color
05:34 PM Tom_L: same on the M1 button only it's an on/off
05:34 PM Tom_L: so it's red once you push it
05:36 PM Tom_L: the default is green for most buttons
05:37 PM JT-Shop: 64°F and clear in the am
05:39 PM Tom_L: bet you're ready for that
05:39 PM JT-Shop: yup
05:39 PM Tom_L: clear and 67 by 6am
05:40 PM Tom_L: is your RTAI install doing ok now?
05:41 PM JT-Shop: not sure
05:44 PM Tom_L: #41 for the qss
05:55 PM xxcoder: dang. boxes was hot enough that if there was pizza inside, it'd be still toasty and hot
05:56 PM xxcoder: im just glad co2 tanks didnt explode
05:56 PM xxcoder: its slowly cooling down to room temp
06:20 PM JT-Cave: boxes?
06:21 PM xxcoder: yeah delivery from amazon
06:21 PM xxcoder: it arrived right at peak hot time
06:23 PM JT-Cave: ah
06:24 PM JT-Cave: got some unseasonable cool days and nights from the tropical storm
06:25 PM xxcoder: oh boy
06:25 PM JT-Cave: daughter got to use her camp stove and inverter while her power was out in houston
06:36 PM Tom_L: they've been hit more than once this season
06:37 PM xxcoder: man texas and their power systems
06:40 PM xxcoder: this co2 drink maker is pretty cool
06:40 PM xxcoder: it has completely no electrics at all
06:40 PM xxcoder: perfect for texas I guess lol
06:41 PM Tom_L: not alot you can do against hurricane winds
06:42 PM xxcoder: yeah though talking about winter power failures due to not being prepured for it
08:02 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Tom_L: try these new RTAI packages after purging the old ones https://onelaboratories.us/abc/
08:05 PM Tom_L: purge all 4 by name?
08:06 PM Tom_L: i will once i figure out how this track ball goes back together..
08:10 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> sudo apt purge linuxcnc*
08:10 PM Tom_L: and all the other 3?
08:10 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> and check in synaptic that all remnants of linuxcnc are gone before installing new
08:12 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> see if this version LCNC and RTAI give segfaults for you or not
08:12 PM Tom_L: at least it has a different name this time
08:13 PM Tom_L: with no isolcpus?
08:13 PM Tom_L: adding isolcpus=2,3 helped that
08:14 PM Tom_L: ok booting with the install dynamic kernel
08:18 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> if you have a 4 core cpu the isolcpus=1,2,3
08:20 PM Tom_L: what's different from the previous RTAI?
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08:21 PM Tom_dev: http://paste.debian.net/1322806/
08:21 PM Tom_L: got an error on the last deb
08:22 PM Tom_L: i'll purge the old files
08:23 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> looks like the old ones were still there
08:25 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> i tried it here before posting and it works great
08:26 PM Tom_L: i didn't purge the rtai since they had a different name
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> purge purge them all
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> no skipping steps
08:26 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> he made a bunch of changes
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08:30 PM Tom_dev: Linux bookworm 5.4.279-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 9 19:17:37 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux
08:31 PM Tom_dev: kernel parameters were still set at: quiet isolcpus=2,3 idle=poll
08:32 PM Tom_dev: no cnc menu item
08:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/pSBCQoQCqywcCmxFkbFKuChS/lcnc10-09Jul2024-648.png
08:32 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> maybe you are tired
08:32 PM Tom_dev: every friggin language is on the menu "other"
08:33 PM Tom_dev: lcnc is on the accessories menu
08:33 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> now we know what happens when you don't purge them all before the new install
08:34 PM Tom_dev: i went back and purged everything
08:35 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> are you running Sid or Bookworm?
08:36 PM Tom_dev: bookworm
08:36 PM Tom_dev: i'm gonna try it once more
08:39 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> it installs here and no segfaults but I don't have flexgui installed
08:39 PM Tom_dev: i purged that too
08:39 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> worst case start with a fresh deb 12 install with no LCNC
08:40 PM Tom_dev: NO!
08:40 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> takes me about 20 minutes
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/jwDmRYeZmBZYsGDxBObSadoN/Screenshot_2024-07-09_at_7.34.18_PM.png
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/lwWwkmEUmDacXxtLYSJPEDkm/Screenshot_2024-07-09_at_7.34.12_PM.png
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/cJfofvlTnHkLGWhgcBWdIOhT/Screenshot_2024-07-09_at_7.34.01_PM.png
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/LAAZxcYcscDZeccXervUQsOn/Screenshot_2024-07-09_at_7.33.56_PM.png
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> Hey everyone, I a trying to get my spindle control working, I set it up in pncconf with my mesa 7i96s and verified the with the multimeter that SPINDLEOUT is creating the correct voltage range. In pncconf, I click create custom gly-something panel for spindle control, but it seems when I compile my pncconf - nothing gets added to the hal for that panel and it errors out?? Has anyone experienced this and knows how to fix it? Sorry for...
08:41 PM lcnc-relay: ... the screenshots I am trying to find my usb so i can copy it over
08:42 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/WHGEGpmRznYsfFhbmlOkJsnp/IMG_0108.jpg
08:43 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> like it seems the glade panel is not compiling any of my spindle settings
08:47 PM lcnc-relay: <ffffrf> i guess i can just control it with code anyway but would be nice
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08:52 PM Tom_dev: captainhindsight, Linux bookworm 5.4.279-rtai-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 9 19:17:37 UTC 2024 x86_64 GNU/Linux
08:52 PM Tom_dev: menus are ok now
08:53 PM Tom_dev: dunno why all the languages are still there though
09:03 PM Tom_L: latency is nearly identical
09:07 PM Tom_L: ffff, what gui are you using?
09:07 PM Tom_L: did you include postgui.hal in your ini?
09:08 PM Tom_L: or whatever the post name is for yours.hal
09:09 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Tom_L; try to reproduce the activity that generated the segfaults
09:10 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> something with flex
09:10 PM Tom_dev: flex with no isolcpus set
09:11 PM Tom_dev: 17 on the histogram after 1000, 5 glxgears & yt
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09:16 PM Tom_dev: still segfaults
09:17 PM Tom_L: trying to capture it and the 2nd time the pc locked up
09:19 PM Tom_L: yeah that doesn't work
09:20 PM Tom_L: ran linuxcnc from a terminal to call flex gui and it locks up now. spits you back to the user login and goes blank
09:20 PM Tom_L: that's with no isolcpus set
09:21 PM Tom_L: ... you did say to reproduce it ...
09:23 PM Tom_L: i can, but i can't capture it
09:25 PM Tom_L: add isolcpus back and flex is fine
09:32 PM Tom_L: this round seemed more invasive
09:33 PM Tom_L: screen blanked, kicked me out and got the user login then a blank screen
09:36 PM Tom_L: rather rude if you ask me...
09:37 PM Tom_L: performance wise with isolcpus set they both seem nearly the same as far as histogram results
09:38 PM Tom_L: i think this one was 17 and the previous one was 18uS roughly the same test time & conditions
09:49 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> so is it like before, you use isolcpus=x,x,x and no segfaults
09:50 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Tom_L: no isolcpus=x,x,x and it only segfaults under that condition?
09:53 PM Tom_L: so far yes
09:55 PM Tom_L: both kernels work with isolcpus set
09:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> and you are only using a servo thread?
09:55 PM Tom_L: right
09:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> so use isolcpus
09:56 PM Tom_L: that config has base period defined..
09:56 PM Tom_L: my regular mill one doesn't
09:56 PM Tom_L: just checked
09:56 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> why aren't you just using uspace for servo thread only?
09:56 PM Tom_L: i was. i have an install using preempt-rt
09:57 PM Tom_L: in fact anyone using an ethernet card has to
09:57 PM Tom_L: but i wanted to test RTAI to find a few quirks :)
09:58 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> yes, we know, but why are you posting servo thread only latency tests with preemp_rt?
09:58 PM Tom_L: the only ones that really benefit from RTAI are parallel port users
09:58 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> and RTAI
09:59 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> so you are just posting RTAI tests with servo threads and using flexgui?
09:59 PM Tom_L: i'm not using base thread with preempt-rt either
09:59 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> people aren't using RTAI with servo threads anyway
10:00 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> it's just for base thread LPT port users
10:00 PM Tom_L: well, i was since i run the 7i90 thru the parallel port
10:00 PM Tom_L: my wheezy install uses RTAI with servo thread
10:01 PM Tom_L: the OLD RTAI
10:01 PM Tom_L: what was that 5.4something? i forget now
10:01 PM Tom_L: err maybe it was 4.19
10:02 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> ok problem solved
10:02 PM Tom_L: which problem?
10:02 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> and now two new RTAI versions for people to use
10:03 PM Tom_L: i think that's great
10:03 PM Tom_L: it would be even greater if we could link them on the webpage :)
10:03 PM Tom_L: i have copies of both
10:03 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> most just check the forums and they are up
10:04 PM Tom_L: you put your links there?
10:04 PM Tom_L: i seldom frequent the forum
10:05 PM Tom_L: right now i can't access linuxcnc.org anyway
10:05 PM Tom_L: times out
10:06 PM Tom_L: now it's back
10:12 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://onelaboratories.us/rtai_lcnc/ and https://onelaboratories.us/abc/
10:12 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/53163-new-and-working-rtai-debs-for-2-9
10:13 PM Tom_L: i have the links. thanks for the post
11:48 PM xxcoder: tried co2 drink
11:48 PM xxcoder: not bad
11:49 PM xxcoder: ill try flavors later