#linuxcnc Logs
Jul 01 2024
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:44 AM Deejay: moin
01:45 AM mrec: I need an MDS-B-SVJ2
01:46 AM mrec: I asked my chinese source if they have a single phase still waiting for an answer.
04:25 AM JT-Cave: morning
04:43 AM Tom_L: morning
05:25 AM JT-Cave: Tom_L, only one label can display a stat
07:09 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
07:51 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: ooh - I was hoping to find a plastic one...
08:06 AM skunkworks: R3scapind!
08:07 AM skunkworks: lol
08:11 AM skunkworks: I had looked on ebay before and wasn't having any luck
08:13 AM Tom_L: think it's big enough?
08:13 AM skunkworks: I think it would be big enough - but I might want it sligtly bigger
08:13 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, luckly there was tool number & tool id :)
08:22 AM lcnc-relay: <JT> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/rWJoMyHrjjVYgNPaaHjhSNDm/20240701_081600.jpg
08:22 AM Tom_L: skunkworks, https://www.ebay.com/itm/166739006165
08:23 AM Tom_L: JT must be cooler out
08:23 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: ooh - thanks!
08:23 AM Tom_L: nice long ride
08:23 AM Tom_L: skunkworks, that one if fiberglass
08:24 AM Tom_L: is
08:24 AM Tom_L: there's also one 24 x 16 x 9 using the selector
08:25 AM skunkworks: 24x19x9 seems good... :)
08:25 AM skunkworks: lol - 24X20X9 I mean
08:26 AM Tom_L: i dont see any watertight pass thrus though
08:26 AM skunkworks: eh - I can add those. All the stuff us coming up through the bottom anyway
08:30 AM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/276015298346
08:30 AM Tom_L: i used a rittal on my mill enclosure
08:54 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> Afternoon yall,
08:54 AM lcnc-relay: Could someone remind me how I stop the pulsing when screw cutting. I have a single pulse encoder on the spindle and have fixed it before but cannot for the life of me find how I fixed it
08:55 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> you need to use position interpolated pin on the encoder
08:55 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/aNPNtwdKgCAWPqdGAlqGvuNm/20240701_144629.mp4
09:00 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> Setp encoder.0.position-interpolated 1
09:00 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> Like that?
09:01 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> no - instead of hooking encoder.0.positon to motion - you connect encoder.0.position-interpolated (that isn't the actual name - you will have to look it up
09:02 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> or maybe it is.. I don't remember
09:17 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> Ok so currently I have these 2 line in my hal
09:17 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> Wait a sec
09:19 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> fixed it thanks again lcnc wizards
09:20 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> Yay!
09:23 AM lcnc-relay: <simonbasil> pretty much i had this line duplicated in my hal
09:23 AM lcnc-relay: net spindle-position encoder.0.position => spindle.0.revs
09:23 AM lcnc-relay: so when i changed it i got errors
10:02 AM Tom_L: JT-Cave, et all, does this look too busy? http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/mill_3/Screens/Touchoff_mdi.png
10:17 AM lcnc-relay: <satiowadahc> Can I suggest a label above the touchoffs? And remove the word touch off from each button?
10:17 AM lcnc-relay: Personally things in grids are easier for me to find, if you flip tool change and tool change it might line up better with coordinate systems
10:21 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> though - that is pretty cool looking...
10:24 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:443/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/flexgui/mill_3/Screens/touchoff_mdi2.png
10:24 AM Tom_L: better?
10:25 AM Tom_L: typo..
10:25 AM Tom_L: :)
10:26 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> did you guys get the preview working?
10:26 AM Tom_L: no
10:26 AM JT-Shop: looking good Tom_L
10:27 AM Tom_L: that's why i filled in the gcode tab with stats
10:27 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, i'll push that in a bit with the .ngc files etc for the hal_pin buttons
10:27 AM JT-Shop: ok
10:28 AM Tom_L: skunkworks, i air cut a part with that ui on the mill yesterday
10:28 AM Tom_L: made a few screen adjustments
10:40 AM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> very cool - I am excited!
10:40 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, #37 up.. you might test that example. i did but may have missed a file etc
11:17 AM JT-Shop: lunch time
12:38 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> how do you feel about GUI justification? Should it be to the LEFT, CENTER or RIGHT
12:39 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> the FlexGUI above is Left Justified
12:43 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://docs.pysimplegui.com/en/latest/cookbook/original/justification_alignment/
12:48 PM roycroft: justification should be a user-configurable option
12:52 PM Tom_L: i try to center most titles
12:52 PM Tom_L: and if it's a setting right justify
12:53 PM Tom_L: i haven't checked for that that close yet
12:55 PM Tom_L: each item can be set
01:08 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> is FlexGUI using any framework or is it all from scratch?
01:09 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://github.com/jethornton/flexgui
01:18 PM Tom_L: Qt 5 Designer
01:19 PM Tom_L: the code for all the widgets is self contained is the key to flex
01:19 PM Tom_L: you drop a widget, the supporting code for linuxcnc is there
01:21 PM Tom_L: some of the special ones you have to to a little extra work
01:21 PM Tom_L: like attaching hal_pins in the postgui file
01:23 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> well, forecast upper 90's today. tomorrow and Wednesday forecast 108............whew......
01:49 PM rdtsc2: Wow, set a frying pan out in the mid-day sun, wait 15min, then cook lunch on it.
01:51 PM Tom_L: 93F currently here
01:51 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> here, 89
01:52 PM xxcoder: 66f here
01:52 PM xxcoder: last few days of that. then it will be 90s f ugh
02:11 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/GzKbEDVZCSvwJmCbVBXXDjny/20240701_140408.jpg
02:11 PM Tom_L: hope you never use it
02:12 PM JT-Shop: I heard that
02:13 PM JT-Shop: 78°F
02:13 PM Tom_L: how do you set a min size on the main window?
02:14 PM Tom_L: or find out what the current size is
02:15 PM JT-Shop: the min size will be large enough for all the widgets to fit and look at the mainwindow size
02:16 PM Tom_L: i just wasn't clicking hard enough
02:54 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/TZHCZYcbwDocxBsKIihqNWBN/20240701_144728.jpg
02:54 PM JT-Shop: the golden plug!
02:54 PM xxcoder: lol
02:56 PM Tom_L: wtf is it?
02:56 PM xxcoder: golden plug
02:56 PM xxcoder: ;)
02:56 PM xxcoder: probably something was dummied out
02:57 PM JT-Shop: transmission fill plug
02:57 PM lcnc-relay: <JT> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/WgDnFTjlxTTqDIPiEpzoaNVs/20240701_144743.jpg
02:57 PM Tom_L: not a very convenient spot
02:57 PM JT-Shop: quite fun to find
02:57 PM Tom_L: there ain't nuthin convenient there
02:58 PM Tom_L: wtf are you tearing up there?
02:59 PM Tom_L: besides hunting for gold
02:59 PM Tom_L: you want gold just look at the MSRP
03:00 PM Tom_L: where's the battery on those?
03:01 PM xxcoder: my guess is its removed in picture
03:04 PM Tom_L: it's in the front by the firewall
03:16 PM JT-Shop: you have to pull the carpet out, the air box cover then partially pull the air box out to get to the golden plug so you can add 2L of tranny fluid for tracking
03:16 PM xxcoder: geez
03:22 PM roycroft: isn't there an $1800 special tool that will reach it without doing all that work?
03:27 PM Tom_L: garden hose with a pipe fitting on the end with a wine cork to plug the other end when not in use
03:28 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, do you have to take it out when you're done playing?
03:40 PM Tom_L: :/ the place i got my neoprene way covers aparently isn't there anymore. sold to a Netherlands company
04:30 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L, no
04:36 PM JT-Shop: the C5 had an expensive tool to train the TPM sensors... but a magnet did the same thing for $2
04:43 PM rdtsc2: Yeah some of those specialty tools are ridiculous. To be an ASE mechanic today, plan on spending >100k in specialty tools.
04:58 PM Tom_L: yeah i think i used a magnet on some before
04:58 PM Tom_L: free out of a dead hdd
05:02 PM Tom_L: i wonder if polarity matters on that
05:40 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://photos.app.goo.gl/cjAZfFSzh3bbs5zc6
05:41 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Anyone know what the drivers use for control?
05:41 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Analog 10v?
05:43 PM Tom_L: that's not a true trace is it?
05:44 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Dunno
05:44 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Had a power drawbar as well
05:45 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> It supposedly all works
05:45 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> But has the ancient display
05:46 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://photos.app.goo.gl/1FVjdvoPBzFoTVxUA
05:47 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://photos.app.goo.gl/reUz9We4EMo83xdE8
05:48 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4mmdnvPEZ2C9RR437
05:49 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Is true trace the dual head?
05:50 PM Tom_L: pantograp
05:50 PM Tom_L: h
05:50 PM Tom_L: the one my bud had was hydraulic
05:51 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Was pricing motors and drives earlier
05:51 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> 5-10 Nm steppers and closed loop drives for $100 together
05:52 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Toss the old brushed dc servos out. They want $200+ for just analog drives
05:53 PM Tom_L: the boss5 had steppers
05:53 PM Tom_L: i gave that manual to archivist
05:55 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Somebody said they run windows on old isa motherboards
05:55 PM Tom_L: no idea
05:56 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://forums.autodesk.com/autodesk/attachments/autodesk/218/2366/1/5438_BridgePort_96541645-ProgManual-DXF-EZ-Trak-Programming-and-Operating-Manual-March-2001.pdf
05:57 PM Tom_L: he had some bridgeport program for it but i don't remember what it was
05:58 PM Tom_L: 20ma loop from the pc to the machine
05:59 PM Tom_L: i helped him wire it up but i don't remember much about it now
05:59 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Well worst case I'll just swap to new servo steppers
06:01 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mrLJkwbSsYQ7US9b8
06:01 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Is another funky little machine
06:02 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> The drill head and the spindle can't work simultaneously
06:03 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> I'd like to make it into a live tool or c-axis
06:03 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> It's already a CNC, just needs some work
06:22 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> oh, shite...... forecast now has 100+ all week.......
06:22 PM JT-Shop: we have one more cool morning to ride, did 21 miles this morning before I ran out of time
06:23 PM xxcoder: 90+f most days of this week too
06:23 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> JT-Shop: 21 is getting way better.
06:23 PM xxcoder: hm prediction changed to be nearly all 80sf exceopt for one 90s f
06:23 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> just go easy and enjoy
06:24 PM JT-Shop: roguish I could go more just not enough time
06:24 PM JT-Shop: it was 68°F this morning :)
06:24 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> whatever ya do is tons better than nothing.
06:24 PM JT-Shop: yup
06:25 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> I went out about 7:45 and 68F. did slow easy 19 miles.
06:25 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> still + on the covid test this morning....
06:26 PM JT-Shop: yuck
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> but feel fine
06:26 PM JT-Shop: I go out at 5:30 or so
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> it's going around here now.
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> you're an early riser....for sure
06:26 PM lcnc-relay: <roguish> up with the rooster
06:27 PM JT-Shop: rooster went to freezer camp years ago lol
06:27 PM JT-Shop: I get up before the hens lol
06:28 PM * JT-Shop calls it a night
06:49 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> http://yabe.chudov.com/9-Bridgeport-EZ-TRAK-Romi-Path-manuals-parts-lists-electric-schematics-25920/DSC_9713.JPG
06:50 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Easy peasy conversion
06:51 PM lcnc-relay: <captainhindsight_.> Just rip it all out and replace with Lcnc pc and closed loop steppers
07:27 PM roycroft: i got my joinery bench put in place today, on top of the big stall mat that i keep under it
07:27 PM roycroft: the shop is far from functional, but it's getting close to my being able to install lights and temporary power
07:31 PM rdtsc_away is now known as rdtsc
07:31 PM roycroft: there is a flat surface there now, since the bench is in place, so i guess i is slightly functional
07:34 PM xxcoder: hopefully you stays functional yes
07:46 PM roycroft: i put my wrist brace on before i moved the bench
08:16 PM Rhine_Labs: Hakko Soldering Equipment Users Make your Repair Manual Request. https://kb.hakkousa.com/Knowledgebase/12138/Right-to-Repair-and-Repair-Manual-Access
08:17 PM Rhine_Labs: Right to Repair Starts Today!!
08:17 PM Rhine_Labs: Prob no schematics but it is a start.
08:36 PM lcnc-relay: <satiowadahc> I wouldn't be surprised if they do give schematics. Hakko are pretty open about alot of their designs
08:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> https://jauriarts.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/jauriarts.org/feKwBouWVzHoIxgCkQmbWAZZ/PXL_20240702_013128825.jpg
08:46 PM lcnc-relay: <skunkworks8841> wonder how much this would go for...
09:14 PM roycroft: i got one of my clamp racks mounted on the wall as well, which is a huge accomplishment, even though it wasn't that much work
09:15 PM roycroft: i'll mount the other one tomorrow, and then i can quit shuffling clamps all around - since i started moving into the shop, my pile of clamps has been exactly completely in the way of every thing i needed to do in there
09:15 PM roycroft: it takes about 20 minutes to move them all out onto the bed of my pickup, and then another 20 minutes to move them back in and put them in the way of the task i want to perform the next day